Collaborators' Top Albums of 2016
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Topic: Collaborators' Top Albums of 2016
Posted By: Dean
Subject: Collaborators' Top Albums of 2016
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 03:36
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Welcome to the 12th annual ProgArchives Collaborator’s Album of the Year contest! As is our annual tradition here at ProgArchives, the collaborators that work tirelessly behind the scenes of the site – the admins, special collaborators, collaborators, Prog Reviewers, and VIP members – get together to discuss and exchange the best music of the year. Each collaborator submits a list of his or her favourite albums of the year, and in Andy's absence it fell to me to collate these lists into an exhaustive list of the best music this year had to offer. This year, 42 voters selected 269 (very) different albums as their favourites from 2016. And this year is a year of shocks that will rock your socks - For what I suspect is the first time ever, Steven Wilson is not in the Top 10, he's not even in the top 40 or top 60. However before too many of you get bent out of shape about the album we actually voted as number one in the hit parade of shapeless packages, take a look at what you all voted for as your favourite album of 2016 > http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=38&ssubgenres=12&ssubgenres=3&ssubgenres=42&ssubgenres=44&ssubgenres=41&ssubgenres=35&ssubgenres=30&ssubgenres=17&ssubgenres=18&ssubgenres=32&ssubgenres=6&ssubgenres=33&ssubgenres=19&ssubgenres=15&ssubgenres=36&ssubgenres=28&ssubgenres=4&ssubgenres=43&ssubgenres=11&syears=2016&scountries=&sminratings=0&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=66&y=9#list" rel="nofollow - here <. So, now, without any ado whatsoever, (Andy would write something about each album in the top 10, I'm not) The ProgArchives Collaborators’ Top Albums of 2016 (1-10) #1 - David Bowie ~ Blackstar  http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=51092%20" rel="nofollow - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=51092 #2 - Gösta Berlings Saga ~ Sersophone  http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=53266" rel="nofollow - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=53266 #3 - Bent Knee ~ Say So  http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52012" rel="nofollow - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52012 #4 - The Winstsons ~ s/t  http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9870" rel="nofollow - www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9870 #5 - Ingranaggi Della Valle ~ Warm Spaced Blue  http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52877" rel="nofollow - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52877 #6 - Marillion - F_ck Everything And Run (F.E.A.R)  http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52412" rel="nofollow - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52412 #7 - Seven Impale ~ Contrapasso  http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52623" rel="nofollow - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52623 #8 - Opeth ~ Sorceress  http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52468" rel="nofollow - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52468 #9 - Big Big Train ~ Folklore  http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=51799" rel="nofollow - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=51799 =9 - The Dear Hunter ~ Act V: Hymns with the Devil in Confessional  http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52332" rel="nofollow - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52332
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 03:40
And here is the full chart:
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 03:55
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Great Job Collaborators! Thank you for the hard work and endless hours! 4 of my top 10 made the Collaborator top 10, but my number 1 album was #140. Gösta Berlings Saga ~ Serosphone at #2 totally slipped by me. Can't wait to cruise thru the collaborator recommendations. Every year I cherry pick from the Collaborator Album List and gift myself a delayed Christmas. My top 10 that made collaborators top 10. #2 Big Big Train- Folklore #3 Warm Spaced Blue #5 Seven Impale #9 The Winstons |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 04:55
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Well done Dean, thanks for this. I got Gosta Berling Saga & Bent Knee in my top 10, my #1 Knifeworld came in the top 20. Surprised the Moulettes didn't crack the top 100. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 05:10
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I only heard two albums from the top 10, IDV and The Winstons, which got into my list. My number 1, Promenade, is on the same spot as Ian's. I'm really glad to see a Progressive Electronic album, Cosmic Ground III, on the top 100. I'm surprised to see Serophone in second place, considering how late it was released last year. I'll have to check it out. By the way, "West, Space & Love II" appears twice on the list. PA considers it as part of ØSC discography, other sites like Discogs have it under that name.
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 05:21
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David Bowie got album of the year?? I haven't heard Blackstar, now I'm curious. Hope it wasn't an emotional pick for many voters and actually is a good prog album.
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 05:29
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Awesome, Dean, thank you. Wow, really happy to see The Winstons and Ingranaggi Della Valle place so highly, and a little surprised that both the Promenade and La Bocca della Verità discs didn't place that little bit higher! [LOL] Also, thinking we must be living in Bizarro World, I never would have imagined that two Italian discs would (although admittedly performed in English Italian discs! [;)]) would ever place higher than a Marillion album! [8-}] |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 05:35
Thanks - rectified. While this isn't a blame-culture - it was Danish Dave's fault, the boy just can't type to save his life.  ------------- What? |
Meltdowner wrote:Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 05:43
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Some surprises here. I had no idea which album would become Album of the Year 2016, but Blackstar, Bowie's worthy swan song, was one of the albums I thought of. I was surprised finding Gösta Berlings Saga at #2 and my own #1 album just outside the top 100. This was my contribution: 1. Nine Stones Close - Leaves (101-102) 2. Ingranaggi della Valle - Warm Spaced Blue (5) 3. Shamblemaths – Shamblemaths (23) 4. Big Big Train - Folklore (9-10) 5. Frequency Drift - Last (54) 6. North Sea Radio Orchestra - Dronne (25-26) 7. Colin Tench Project - Hair in a G-string (Unfinished but Sweet) (18) 8. Mother Turtle - II (44-45) 9. Edensong - Years in the Garden of Years (34) 10. Panzerpappa - Pestrottedans (46-48) 11. Haken - Affinity (17) 12. Bubu - Resplandor (40-41) 13. La Bocca della Verità - Avenoth (14) 14. Akt - II (109-117) 15. Kayo Dot - Plastic House on Base of Sky (43) 16. Promenade - Noi al Dir di Noi (19-21) 17. David Bowie - Blackstar (1) 18. Motorpsycho - Here Be Monsters (37-38) 19. The Gift - Why the Sea is Salt (94-95) 20. Afforested - Frithu (267-272) Three albums in the top 10, most albums between 11 and 50. This year has seen a lot of good albums. I have heard the albums of Gösta Berlings Saga, Marillion and Seven Impale, but these didn't make it to my list. ------------- 
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 05:45
Funny you mention that, Sam. When the first volume came out those few years ago, `West Space and Love' had their own Archives page, but the album came with Oresund Space Collective plastered on the LP cover, so they were merged over to the OSC page (I might have even instigated this myself in the first place, can't remember!  )Now with the second volume, I think it's being listed as both an OSC album and West Space and Love album across the net, so not sure whether to just leave it or request they get their own page again! 
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 05:53
Nah...I'm just the only member here who knows how to use an ø properly!!! But yes my spelling has gotten worse and worse over the last couple of years. I lack iron in my diet. Thanks for doing this btw, Dean. Always look forward to this list of lists. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 05:59
Oh and I've got 5(!!!) albums in the top 20 this year  Madness. Surprised to see The Winstons that high up too...pleasantly surprised no less. Should cater to just about any old school prog rock nut (bar hazel of course). ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 06:27
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1) Not surprised to see Blackstar at #1 because it was on so many lists, yet I think only one collab actually had it as their #1 2) Really surprised to see GBS and Winstons so high. 3) My #1 and #2 are at #51
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 06:40
Didn't take you for a big Neal Morse fan
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 06:43
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I'm moderately happy to see my #1 sitting in joint 10th place. 11 years ago I wasn't sure whether we'd see the completion of Casey Crescenzo's ambitious design for his Dear Hunter side-project or if he'd manage to maintain the quality shown in the first two acts for the entire duration of the suite - but he did, and since he has announced that Act V would be the last Rock CD then I think it is a fitting denouement wonderfully executed and possibly the best of all five Acts. ------------- What? |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 07:03
^ this and thanks for putting this together  |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 07:09
I thought about discussing it with the team, but we have so much on our plate. At least it's here and it makes some sense
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 07:32
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Thank you for compiling the list Dean. My number 1 is tied with Dean's number 1 for 9th/10th place. Fairly disappointed that BlackStar is the number one album given this is a prog site, but I guess that we have some sentimental folks within our ranks. ------------- 
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 08:24
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Great to see the Dear Hunter on the list. Thanks for compiling this list. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 08:32
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Thanks Dean for the hard work I notice that Katatonia's The Fall Of Hearts appears to be in the list twice. However this seems to be my fault as I lazily dropped the 'The' of the beginning when I included it in my list. Apologies! Blackstar is a worthy winner in my view. We could have the usual 'is it prog?' discussion I suppose but its in PA and that's all that matters.
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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 09:03
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Awesome work. Thanks Dean! I'm pretty happy seeing Gosta Berlings Saga in 2nd place, and a few more of my favourites were in the top 20 (Promenade, Avenoth). Bubu in the top 50 was also not too bad for a humble little EP! ------------- when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 09:36
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Contrapasso was my #1 and at least made the top 10. GBS was in my top 10. Other than that my list is well represented at the bottom. Story of my life. And really, there is sooooooo much music being produced out there that none of us could possibly hear it all. As a matter of fact, I was just exposed to an album that would have absolutely blown all of my 2014 picks out of the water. Anyway, thanks for the time and effort to maintain the tradition Dean. Oh, and this should probably get a "sticky". ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 09:43
Thanks for all your work, Dean ! Glad to see a few of my own choices in the Top 10. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 10:09
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Sad to see Bowie take the crown, though it's hardly a surprise after reviewing the lists. Great to see GBS at #2, that certainly was a surprise. As per usual the strong majority of my choices are floundering near the bottom. :p ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 10:13
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Great stuff, Dean. Thank you for doing this. Nice too see three of mine making the list, Marillion, BBT, and Dear Hunter. It makes a change, but I am surprised at the failure of Crimson to make the top ten. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 11:23
Fixed - if there had been 100s of people casting votes instead of just a few I would have probably scripted the Excel sheet to automatically account for such things but the effort involved in doing that would have taken longer than simply fixing everything by hand. Still, Kayo Dot fans really do need to learn the name of the latest offering from Toby Driver's crew.  Anyway, that moves them ahead of Van der Graaf Generator... there is something very wrong in this world when Doomy Metal beats Gloomy Prog but there you go. (Not knocking Katotonia per sey, I've been a fan of theirs since the mid 90s but they they aren't Van der Graaf Generator) ------------- What? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 11:27
Disappointed more than surprised, but then they were both live albums so if I'm not mistaken that makes Radical Action the Top Live album of 2016
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 11:45
True. The Blue Ray is one of the finest purchases I have ever made. A simply wondrous set, and proving that this band are as relevant now as they have ever been, I am a huge fan of Jakko's vocals and guitar. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 12:09
It wasn't my number one album, but I ranked it highly. Certainly the circumstances surrounding the album made it more powerful and emotional to me, but I don't see that as a bad thing in my choosing it. A favourite album of mine is Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom, and the circumstances there also make the album more powerful and emotional for me. That said, although I find the notion of good and bad albums/ good art and bad art (as objective statements) commonly problematic and overused, to me (subjectively) it is a good album. Whether you like the album as much as me depends on your tastes. I think one would be hard pressed to make a cogent argument for it being an objectively bad album, and it is clearly professionally made. I wouldn't classify it as Prog, but it is a good art rock album to me with experimental qualities. I don't think it's out of place for this site, and wouldn't complain if the album were in Crossover (if we had individual albums in categories rather than the way we do it). It's not an album that I will play as much as classic Bowie, and I wouldn't describe it as PA worthy as the Berlin trilogy. I do think that Blackstar is a remarkable swansong. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 23:33
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Special thanks to Dean for compiling this massive mess of music. My Collaborator vote went as follows: 1. The Dear Hunter – Act V: Hymns with the Devil in Confessional 2. Colin Tench Project – Hair in a G-String 3. Big Big Train – Folklore 4. David Bowie – Blackstar 5. Anderson/Stolt- Invention of Knowledge 6. Iamthemorning – Lighthouse 7. Decameron – Ten Days in 100 Novellas 8. John Wesley - A Way You’ll Never Be 9. Bent Knee – Say So 10. Hakken – Affinity So, I got four of out of the top ten. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 04 2017 at 00:54
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Okay - some stats. So - 42 collabs voted for 269 different albums, with 34 of those albums making it to the top of each collab's list.
Firstly the distribution of tallied scores follows the fairly typical exponential decay found in all other music and sales charts where the difference in total score between #1 and #2 is significantly greater than the difference between any other adjacent pairs. I regard this is my 'sanity-check' on veracity of the data, it would be very unusual for there to have been a close fight between the top three positions at least (bearing in mind the low turnout, if more collabs had voted then we wouldn't have seen so many tied places).
Next is the number of voters for each album regardless of the score each album got:
And finally, the number of times each album was voted #1
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: March 04 2017 at 05:55
Out of interest, what's the album? |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: March 04 2017 at 06:20
Excellent work, Dean! And great statistics there too!
 Anyway, this was my top 20, and how they ended up: 1. Bushman's Revenge - Bushman's Fire (64) 2. Ulver - ATGCLVLSSCAP (24) 3. Nils Petter Molvær - Buoyancy (129) 4. Jakob Skøtt - All the Colours of the Dust (110) 5. Ill Wicker - Untamed (77) 6. Dungen - Häxan (15) 7. Corima - Amaterasu (88) 8. Gösta Berlings Saga - Sersophane (2) 9. Amoeba Split - Second Split (185) 10. Vespero - Lique Mekwas (22) 11. Shamblemaths - Shamblemaths (23) 12. Utopianisti - The Third Frontier (32) 13. Panzerpappa - Pestrottedans (46) 14. Gotic - Gegants i serpentines (96) 15. Three Trapped Tigers - Silent Earthling (51) 16. Aluk Todolo - Voix (67) 17. Jambinai - A Hermitage (175) 18. Tusmørke - Ført bak lyset (260) 19. The Dillinger Escape Plan - Dissociation (263) 20. Aiming for Enrike - Segway Nation (266) 1 in the top 10, 2 in the top 20, but 5 in the top 25. Bowie and GBS the top 2? Yeah, I can live with that. -------------  
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Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: March 04 2017 at 13:19
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Sweet. I've never been active when one of these is posted. Hi mom! Look at me now! Also I have a lot to listen to. ------------- https://twitter.com/ProgFollower" rel="nofollow - @ProgFollower on Twitter. Tweet me muzak. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 04 2017 at 13:45
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Here's how mine did (1). Knifeworld - Bottled Out Of Eden (19) (2). North Sea Radio Orchestra - Dronne (26) (3). Free Salamander Exhibit - Undestroyed (42) (4). Jack O' The Clock - Repetitions Of The Old City - I (55) (5). Bent Knee - Say So (3) (6). The Sea Nymphs - On The Dry Land (151) (7). Chromb! - 1000 (44) (8). Jeremy Flower - The Real Me (72) (9). Gosta Berlings Saga - Sersophane (2) (10). a.P.A.t.T. - Fun With Music (51) (11). Moulettes - Preternatural (129) (12). Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool (28) (13). Three Trapped Tigers - Silent Earthling (51) (14). Panzerpappa - Pestrottedans (46) (15). SubRosa - For This We Fought The Battle Of Ages (119) (16). Yugen - Death By Water (46) (17). Corima - Amaterasu (88) (18). ukandanz - Awo (151) (19). Emmett Elvin - Assault On The Tyranny Of Reason (207)(20). Ill Wicker - Untamed (77) ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 04 2017 at 13:55
Poil - Brossaklit...album makes me absolutely pitch a tent. Also, just heard the Yugen album from 2016. Certainly would have made my list. You practically have to listen to a new album every day to really know what's out there. And then I wasted 3 hours listening to that Gandalfs Fist album in its entirety when I cold have listened to like 3-4 other albums in that time.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: March 04 2017 at 14:00
| ^ Yeah, Poil are hella good! still haven't bought that album. Too many records, too little time (and money). |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 04 2017 at 14:26
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Since everyone else is doing it: 1. Seven Impale - Contropasso (7) 2. Motorpsycho - Here Be Monsters (37) 3. Voivod - Post Society (t-110) 4. Free Salamander Exhibit - Undestroyed (42) 5. Edensong - Years in the Garden of Years (34) 6. Shamblemaths - Shamblemaths (23) 7. Promenade - Nol al dir ni nol (t-19) 8. Animals as Leaders - The Madness of Many (t-175) 9. Watchtower - Concepts of Math: Book One (t-185) 10. Gosta Berlings Saga - Sersophane (2) 11. Haken - Affinity (17) 12. Thank You Scientists - Stranger Heads Prevail (t-104) 13. Universal Totem orchestra - Mathematic Mother (t-30) 14. Plini - Handmade Cities (t-229) 15. Meshuggah - The Violent Sleep of Reason (t-99) 16. Stick Men - Prog Noir (t-96) 17. Opeth - Sorceress (8) 18. Counter World Experience - Pulsar (t-259) 19 Whalephant - Kamma (t-137) 20. Kansas - The Prelude Implicit (72) ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 04 2017 at 15:15
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Good to learn I'm not alone in having discovered some great 2016 albums well after the beginning of the new year! This year does not seem to be on the same level so far, but maybe the best is yet to come. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 04 2017 at 16:03
PoiL is a monster, buy it ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 06 2017 at 01:48
Agreed . I liked both albums but was certainly surprised VDGG didn't get more votes overall. Cheers.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 06 2017 at 03:35
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Bravo to Dean for the excellent work (I don't know how he dealt with my lack of #2 spot
1- Maelstrom - S/T (62) 3- King Crimson - Radical Action to Unseat Monkey Mind (16) 4- Van Der Graaf Generator - Do Not Disturb (26) 5- Gösta Berlings Saga - Sersophane (2) 6- Agusa - Katarsis (151) 7- Panzerpappa – Pestrottedans (46) 8- Bubu - Resplandor (40) 9- Santana - Live at House of Blues ?? 10- Ill Wicker - Untamed (77) 11- Éléphant Tôk - Tôk (88) 12- Universal Totem orchestra - Mathematic Mother (30) 13- Seven Impale - Contrapasso (7) 14- Santana - IV (109) 15- Ryley Walker - Golden Sings That Can Be Sung (77) 16- Fire! Orchestra - Ritual (185) 17- Deus Ex Machina – Devoto (75) 18- Ukandans - Awo (152) |
Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: March 07 2017 at 06:22
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How my list compared to the real list... 2. Bent Knee - Say So (3) 3. The Dear Hunter - Act V: Hymns With the Devil in Confessional (9) 4. Dissona - Paleopneumatic (138) 5. Ihsahn - Arktis (39) 6. a.P.A.t.T. - Fun With Music (51) 7. Devin Townsend Project - Transcendence (77) 8. The Enid - Dust (37) 9. Deerhoof - The Magic (151) 10. Big Big Train - Folklore (9) 11. Epica - The Holographic Principle (104) 12. Jeremy Flower - The Real Me (72) 13. Ukandanz - Awo (151) 14. Fire! Orchestra - Ritual (185) 15. Pseudo/Sentai - Enter The Sentai (223) 16. Subrosa - For This We Fought The Battle of Ages (120) 17. Knifeworld - Bottled Out of Eden (19) 18. Universal Totem Orchestra - Mathematical Mother (30) 19. Myrath - Legacy (261) 20. Yugen - Death by Water (46) If this were golf, I did a terrible job, ending with a score of 1,810
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: March 11 2017 at 09:59
| Thanks for your hard work Dean, great job. As usual there's plenty for me to check out there that I missed. |
Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: March 14 2017 at 17:02
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Wow, I need to check Bent Knee, I just heard one song 'Way Too Long' in youtube and I'm floored by the singing. I'm mad that I missed them multiple times last year, as a South-Central PA resident. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBiou4xCvNw I also feel bad for not voting for our 'German David Bowie' (as a compliment). I got T-Epistrophobia recently and it's top-3 album material.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 15 2017 at 07:51
I would not call this "a terrible job". I'd rather say "distinguished" or "at variance with the average". Btw, my score is exactly 1000  .-------------
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 15 2017 at 09:16
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Hey nice job Dean on a great list!! Some shocks there but I don't have ill thought about them, for sure the #1 is a shock. Have not heard a note from Blackstar, but I am not a Bowie listener, so no comment really. Glad to see albums by Haken, Marillion and Anderson/Stolt regarded highly......Especially Haken. Shout out to Santana also...nice! Who on earth voted The Astonishing~DT???  I have yet to hear that album in full...Great work -------------   
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 15 2017 at 10:35
1407 here. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 15 2017 at 10:48
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Ooo - a round of Obscure Archives Top Trumps. Since I only listed 10 albums and all bar one was top-40 I think I'm going to lose this.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: March 15 2017 at 14:57
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Here's my list: 2) David Bowie - Blackstar (1) 3) Bushman's Revenge - Jazz, fritt etter hukommelsen (49) 4) Bushman's Revenge - Bushman's Fire (64) 5) North Sea Radio Orchestra - Dronne (26) 6) Car Bomb - Meta (151) 7) Oranssi Pazuzu - Varahtelija (13) 8) Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool (28) 9) Aluk Todolo - Voix (67) 10) Gorguts - Pleiades Dust (58) 11) Bubu - Resplandor (40) 12) Daevid Allen - Elevenses (196) 13) Big Big Train - Folklore (9) 14) Mike Keneally - Scambot 2 (229) 15) Swans - The Glowing Man (33) 16) Tortoise - The Catastrophist (61) 17) Ulver - ATGCLVLSSCAP (24) 18) Motorpsycho - Here Be Monsters (37) 19) iamthemorning - Lighthouse (11) 20) Perhaps - 4 (264) 1364 is my final score. -------------  
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: March 15 2017 at 17:30
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What a great job like your bento, thanks Dean! ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: March 16 2017 at 14:13
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 16 2017 at 16:21
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1685. But really, shouldn't the score be weighted by final position? Like par? ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 16 2017 at 18:46
The difference there is take 210 off your score. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 16 2017 at 19:16
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I'm not a statistician, but I believe the par would based more on the distance over rating, not just the total places. i.e.: Gazzardian above would have a worse over-par factor for his number 1, (84 places higher), than his number 16 (104 places higher). ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 16 2017 at 19:42
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You'll have to explain that to me slowly. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 16 2017 at 19:53
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I'll have to have a smarter person than me explain it to me before I can explain it at any speed. Since I'm dosed up on cough syrup and bronchodilators it would only sound fast and make very little sense. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 16 2017 at 20:17
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Oh, and I am a Statistician ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 17 2017 at 00:58
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The number of tied places messes everything up a tad. A perfect score would be 207 not 210, and the maximum score would be 5149 (not 5190). Par would be the score of an average voter since it means "of equal value" - how you determine who this mythical average voter is and what their score would be is anyone's guess. The other thing that messes everything up a smidgen is not all voters picked 20 albums. So while each had 210 points to distribute to 20 albums of their choice some cast fewer points to fewer albums (for example I distributed 155 points to 10 albums, whereas Hugues distributed 191 points to 19 albums¹) - therefore the total number of points distributed by 42 voters was 7981 from a maximum of 8820 hence the average number of points distributed per voter was 190 (to 16.524 albums).
They're the same Ian, so subtracting 210 from the total like Ian says will yield the same result as subtracting the voter's ranking from the actual ranking for each album: ∑ [s-r] = ∑ (s) - ∑ (r), where: ∑(r) = 1+2+3...+20 = 210 However, that wouldn't really be par because the voters where not trying to predict what ranking each album would achieve or which 20 albums would be top. ¹ So in answer to your question Hugues, as you didn't pick a #2 then your score "19" was not awarded to any album and your #3 pick was awarded 18 points just like everyone else's. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 16 2017 at 18:18
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Yes I'm back! 6 months of getting this "error 400 bad request" page popping up not allowing me on here. I finally got my old Mac upgraded including the server. He had to wipe the hard drive and start over to make it work but here I am. I saw this list for the first time on Wednesday when I got my computer back from the shop. By the way I could get on other sites but when I googled the error it said it was to do with me having too much data on here. Really? Okay here's my top ten, better late I guess than never. 1-David Bowie- Black Star 2-The Pineapple Thief- Your Wilderness 3-SBB-Hofors 1975 Live 4-Katatonia- The Fall Of Hearts 5-EYE- Visions And Ageless Light 6-Wolf People- Ruins 7-La Bocca Della Verita- Avenoth 8-Ingranaggi Della Valle-Warm Spaced Blue 9-Gong- Rejoice! I'm dead! 10-Steven Wilson-4 1/2 ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 16 2017 at 19:02
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^ It is good to see you back, John! Not that I post much anymore because of all the BS, but I still pop in to read sometimes and missed seeing your reviews. Cheers! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 17 2017 at 08:38
Hi John it's been too long  Hope everything's good over there in Canada. I am experiencing summer here in Denmark which is good. Another fine experience has been the return of my left leg. I'd missed it for over a year. Anyway something went snap inside my elvis and whambamthankyoumam let there be light!!! I foresee a walking spree coming up. Oh how I've missed walking...normally. I sorta lost my mojo there for a bit walking like something out of Monty Python's ministry of silly walks. Funny how one (at least men I find) try to work around the thing that's hurting instead of seeing a doctor I learned my lesson though. Never work around - feel the painYup my physical therapist says that I have to do all the things I've been trying to avoid for years or at the very least my body has avoided - somehow without me picking up on it. Feels so odd to unlearn certain movement patterns one develops over time. Oh well now I just need the final few pops to happen in my upper spine and I'll be a happy bunny ready for unharnessed movement this summer. Hopefully. I will be attending an electronic festival in August and I hope to bring my dancing shoes. If not I'll probably just hang out at the philosophical cheese stand. REALLY looking forward to that. The only thing I know about it is the name. I hope it's folks discussing the virtues of Nietzsche and gorgonzola and how best to combine the two. Take care of yourself there John - listen to some psychedelic music and take to the woods - fondle up a willing bear - you know feeeeel the summer coming on. Cheerio my friend. Your's truly Mr Miyagi von Bülow ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 17 2017 at 18:49
Thanks Jim I missed you guys. The worst winter of my life didn't help either, but that's far in the past now.------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 17 2017 at 18:54
Bamsen! I'm glad you found your left leg, they do tend to wander. Listened to Fifty Foot Hose all last week how's that. And Ultimate Spinach a few weeks ago. It just feels good to get back on here and to have a fully working computer. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 21 2017 at 18:51
Damn, captchad again. Anyhoo, sorry to hear about the bad winter....I've had better times myself. But so far I"m still getting up in the morning! Feel free to message or email if you ever need someone to chat with. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 22 2017 at 02:44
That is some saucy music right there I'll give you that. Maybe try some West, Space & Love next time? Last year's release made me think of Älgarnas Trägård, early Tangerine Dream and Floyd teaming up as well as a bit of Cluster and Gong here and there. I thought of you several times the last time I span it thinking 'I bet this sounds amazing on a Canadian stereo!'. Worst winter ever? I know that feeling my friend. Well it is thankfully gone and now is most definitely the time to air your speedos and general musky scent down on that beach of your's. Women love men in speedos - especially those of us who can whistle keyboard solos without the need of a beat. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |