If I love Camel ...
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Topic: If I love Camel ...
Posted By: writer00
Subject: If I love Camel ...
Date Posted: June 18 2017 at 17:47
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Hi all. Just joined this as I could use some great recommendations. So, I'd say my favorite prog band is Camel. I really like the rock/jazz vibe, the pastoral stuff (Snow Goose) ... just about everything. I really never sought out newer prog bands ... so who would you recommend I check out, taking what I wrote above into account. Thanks! Looking forward to some new music.
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: June 18 2017 at 18:32
Hey there Erik, welcome to the Archives!  This could be an instant recommendation for you, an Israeli instrumental band called Sanhedrin that have sadly on made this one album to date, but it's a bit of a minor modern classic if you dig the Camel sound. See how you go: |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: June 18 2017 at 18:40
Obscure is indeed the way here but... ------------- |
Posted By: writer00
Date Posted: June 18 2017 at 19:30
| Thanks! Will check them out right away. |
Posted By: writer00
Date Posted: June 18 2017 at 19:31
| Thank you! I (think I've) heard of them, but never came across the music. I'll check it out. |
Posted By: writer00
Date Posted: June 18 2017 at 19:39
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 18 2017 at 19:44
| The obvious ones, that you are likely to know already, would be Pink Floyd and Genesis. A little less known, Renaissance, Harmonium, Anthony Phillips' "The Geese and the Ghost" (the only one I know from him, but there may be other fitting albums from him as well). And about newer bands, Big Big Train (specially the English Electric ones, I guess). And I know just about nothing from Canterbury, but I guess if someone could point you in the right direction that one could be right for you too. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 18 2017 at 19:54
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I'd check out the Mike Oldfield albums Ommadawn & Hergest Ridge. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 18 2017 at 20:05
Oh, I love those ones too. Just listening to "Return to Ommadawn" right now. It has really grown on me, specially side one. Indeed I think it's worthy of his 70's masterpieces. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 18 2017 at 23:48
| Go for Aussie Proggers SEBASTIAN HARDIE. 'Nuff said !!! |
Posted By: noni
Date Posted: June 19 2017 at 03:05
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I always thought Nick Barret (Pendragon) closely matches Andy Latimer (Camel) on guitars. But obviously Andy is has that unique style that no guitar player can match!... Maneige and Opus 5 are highly recommended bands!........ |
Posted By: noni
Date Posted: June 19 2017 at 03:06
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Posted By: aliano
Date Posted: June 19 2017 at 03:10
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Camel fans will find something to love in these bands: Asia Minor Willowglass Rousseau Quidam Hostsonaten You can check the Progarchives page of them to get more idea about their albums. |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: June 19 2017 at 03:16
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Welcome to PA! I agree with every band mentioned and would add this: |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 19 2017 at 04:57
Does this effectively mean that you've been here on PA for so many years without ever listening to 9 Feet Underground?  I know your tastes lie with the more melodic natured acts and that most other Canterbury bands tend to lose their marbles for a bit with added jazz and avant touches, but Caravan is about as friendly and melodic as prog rock gets. Just a recommendation on my behalf  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: writer00
Date Posted: June 19 2017 at 07:06
Without a doubt two of my favorite albums.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: June 19 2017 at 07:25
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Gotic - Escenes Ragnarok - s/t from 1977 - the Swedish band, don't confuse with several other bands with the same name or you may get metal! John G. Perry - Sunset Wading (a little Canterbury, but gently) Dan Ar Bras - Douar Nevez (Bretonne prog folk but I think it may do it for you) |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 19 2017 at 08:14
That's a good call. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: noni
Date Posted: June 19 2017 at 16:43
Just picked up a Rousseau album, the other day!.......Flower in Asphalt
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: June 19 2017 at 17:00
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: June 19 2017 at 17:47
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Many many prog groups are clearly influenced by Camel This group is named after Camel's second album, and I think this track is a dedication to Camel |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 19 2017 at 20:23
Oh there are so many things and bands I still have to check out... discovering prog seems to be the show that never ends. I still have to get some more albums from Jethro Tull, Renaissance, Camel themselves, Genesis, Mike Oldfield, King Crimson, Banco, etc (I mean, I do have enough from them to say I know them very well, but there are still important albums I haven't got). And then, I need to get to know SBB and Ange too. There's still some more RPI and Neo I could get to know. And I should get a bit into some other genres, like folk (starting with Strawbs), Psychedelic (starting with Hawkwind), Kraut (starting with... well, something), and yeah, Canterbury too (starting with Caravan, I guess). And yeah, for me melody should be what makes me love a song the most, but I do love some jazzy and crazy stuff in the mix... just as long as they don't go overboard. YS's Introduzione/Primo Incontro are just sublime. |
Posted By: writer00
Date Posted: June 22 2017 at 19:54
Thank you! I'll listen now.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 22 2017 at 23:27
Michael Akerfeldt loves Camel, in particular, Andy Latimer. Then, you should love OPETH  (then again, he says he loves ABBA !). I dunno, Extreme Metallists ha ha.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 23 2017 at 04:26
Oh you are preaching to the choir - this journey seems neverending and I rather dig that about music in general. I've just seen you talk a lot about the classic bands, as well as the classic epics, and was rather surprised to learn that you have still to check out Caravan. In my book, as well as most other classic prog fans, 9 Feet Underground is up there with Tarkus, Close To The Edge, Supper's Ready, Starless and Echoes. I just find it a little strange that you haven't yet heard it as it often is included in polls with jootoob vid and all. Anyway be sure to check out the tune - and if you've got the time the whole album where it's featured: In The Land Of Grey & Pink  As for the thread? Try out the German band Amenophis' selftitled debut from 1983. Should please any fan of the hump methinks. Oh what the hell - here is 9 Feet Underground in all of it's glory: ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Thandrus
Date Posted: June 23 2017 at 04:51
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If you love Camel, I think you might like this delicate and very beautifully melodic band from Bahrain. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 23 2017 at 22:02
Actually, yes, some songs from Opeth may work. Perhaps even the whole Damnation (even if I didn't really like that album so much). Or Pale Communion. But mostly I would think some songs such as Face of Melinda or Harvest. Or Coil. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 02:25
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I've loved Camel since the tail-end of the 90's (I loved select Metal, but not Extreme..). Now, I have come around to Extreme Metal (though I do find the 'growling' vocals a bit naive, but how else could you sing to this extraordinary music??) . My favourite song by Camel is Supertwister. I love all the albums from the anazing debut to Single Factor. I've heard Rajaz and it's pretty decent for sure. Dunno where I'm going with this rant, but, if you can tolerate double-bass drum 'blast beats' and growling, you should find much excitement with OPETH's Morningrise album. There is that 'something special' about it. |
Posted By: Zem
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 02:37
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I've always thought Nektar had a similar sound from around the same time. If you like one, you'll probably like the other: |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 14:59
very astute
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 15:03
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Asia Minor has been mentioned, so I thought I'd post a couple by this wonderful band that many Camel lovers might enjoy |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 15:27
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Certainly Asia Minor and Anyones Daughter, as already mentioned (particularly 'Piktor's Verwandlungen', their mostly instrumental concept lp based on the Herman Hesse story; sort of their 'Snow Goose'). Also Hoelderlin, the German symphonic band- the live double 'Traumstadt' is excellent as is their S/T 1st lp and 'Clowns and Clouds' ------------- |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 18:45
Underrated, that! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 19:38
I do dislike Growiling, but have somewhat come around it a bit. There are some songs that are so great that I have come to accept that they include growling in order to enjoy the whole song. One of the very first that led me to accept them is "The Drapery Falls" (live version) from Opeth (and yet the only one of their growling songs that I do enjoy). Since then I have come back to some other songs that I used to like a lot but dismissed because of the growling, such as "Cry to the Moon" from Epica, and "Forever" from Macbeth. And there's only one artist, I think, whose growling and extreme singing I do enjoy, and that's Devin Townsend... somehow, when he does it (or at least in some of my favourite songs) it makes sense, and I would not rather hear the songs without those vocals (like on "Planet Smasher", or his contribution on Ayreon's song "Loser"). |
Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: July 07 2017 at 18:01
| Since the focus is on Camel, and the mid-70's period, I'd recommend more stuff from mid-late 70's. Nektar, Genesis, Steve Hackett, Ant. Phillips, Curved Air, Earth & Fire (2nd, 3rd albums), PFM, Renaissance, Strawbs, Bo Hansson (Magician's Hat). |
Posted By: noni
Date Posted: July 08 2017 at 03:48
There are a few threads similar to this one, by the bands you mentioned. As this is only Camel related, whats the point of your post?
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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: July 11 2017 at 14:55
I'd hazard at a guess that he's trying to recommend some other bands that a 'Camel fan' might like?? a bit like everyone else on this thread?
I mean, c'mon.. Tom Ozric is talking about Opeth and that's cool.. give a newbie a break!------------- |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: July 12 2017 at 14:31
This German Camel band reminds a lot to Eloy without Bornemann's strong accent. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: zachfive
Date Posted: July 12 2017 at 19:21
Don't want to de-rail this thread but I absolutely agree that Devin does great extreme/growling vocals. You mentioned Loser from Ayreons The Human Equation but his vocals on both Pain and School from the same album are equally as brilliant. As for Camel like recommendations, I agree with Caravan. All their albums are great especially their debut through Cunning Stunts. Another Richard Sinclair lead vocal band from Canterbury scene would be Hatfield and the North. Their album The Rotters' Club is great stuff, very Camel-esque with more jazz. Also Richard Sinclair's solo album Caravan of Dreams , it may be hard to find, but has that definitive Camel vibe. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: July 13 2017 at 09:46
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Let me add the solo albums by Colin Bass. I love An Outcast From The Islands. In his live album with Josef Skrzek the two play also variou Camel covers like Fingertips and West Berlin. Also the japanese Bellaphon can be considered a Camel clone, just more keyboard oriented ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 31 2017 at 10:10
actually I recommend Opeth's Damnation (2003) to anyone liking Camel or Pink Floyd. also Atlas Babylon Bo Hansson Druid Carpe Diem Happy the Man |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 31 2017 at 11:53
true enough, and they are often mentioned when people say they want to hear groups in the style of Eloy. During their initial run, 1979-1983, Anyone's Daughter released 5 albums. Even my least favorite is still good for 3 stars. If you can find "Live" or "Requested Document Live", I say go for it, as the LIve albums essentially function as a greatest hits, and are very well performed. Interestingly, when they reformed as more of a straightforward rock band in the 2000's and released 2 studio albums, it's still the "Live Trio Tour" that is the one to get, not that I am necessarily recommending it
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 31 2017 at 18:15
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A few off the top of my head: Genesis but really only a trick of the tail and wind and wuthering Focus Caravan (some of it anyway) Banco- di terra (if you like snowgoose) Moongarden
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 31 2017 at 20:23
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3 letters man... E L and P  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 01 2017 at 11:10
| When you love Camel, you can't go wrong with Caravan, Supersister, Kraan, I can't stress enough how cool Kraan is :D |
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 03 2017 at 05:49
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Mirage (France).
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Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 06 2017 at 03:07
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Ain Soph (Japan). |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: September 06 2017 at 10:22
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already mentioned, but big "yes" to Mirage, Asia Minor, Caravan and especially Atlas: No love for Fruupp tho?.. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: September 06 2017 at 10:25
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oh and BJH of course |
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 08 2017 at 04:49
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Dogma (Brazil). |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: September 08 2017 at 12:02
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How about this? Kaipa (1975) It has that camel'y keyboard sound. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 08 2017 at 14:36
| From what I've heard Fruupp is more like Gabriel era Genesis(at least to me). |
Posted By: condor
Date Posted: September 08 2017 at 16:07
| Ommadawn |
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 04:45
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Windchase (Australia). |
Posted By: TheH
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 06:49
Posted By: TheH
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 06:58
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 07:26
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Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 05:32
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Kerrs Pink (Norway). |
Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 05:50
| I forgot to mention the wonderful Uzva and Hidria Spacefolk. |
Posted By: dauinghorn
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 06:32
| What about the Novalis album Sommerabend? I think it has some of the same melodic quality and mellow feel to it. |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 07:44
my favorite track from my favorite Eris Pluvia album
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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 08:12
Thanks for this. I already love it. Will check it out....
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Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 14 2017 at 03:05
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Jadis (UK). |
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 05:07
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In the 80's, Isildur's Bane (Sweden). |
Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 05:41
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 23 2017 at 05:13
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Odyssice (Netherlands).
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: September 23 2017 at 08:15
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Has anyone mentioned Solution before? - I can still remember when I bought "Cordon Bleu" I was in a kind of Camel mood, so makes sense someone might also like both as I did then (and still do !)  Cover art by Hipgnosis |
Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: September 23 2017 at 20:33
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If someone's into Camel, and wanting more like that, it seems fitting that they would prefer 70s/80s prog, not the new stuff. Anyway, some of Steve Hackett's music would be one recommendation, such as Spectral Mornings and Defector time period. Some of that includes flute - courtesy of John Hackett - a long the lines of Larimer's flute. Maybe Nektar too, Remember the Future as a starting point.
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