Mostly it's the cliches, the (mostly) terrible singing and the bad songwriting.

Some examples:

I can't stand Steve Hogarth's voice anymore. I used to love Marillion Mk II to bits, I even paid for their albums in advance, to help the, produce and distribute their music. But apart from Marillion.com and some songs on Marbles, I can't stand the music anymore. Mostly because of Hogarth's voice, but since Somewhere Else, the songwriting, I find really bad.

Another example is Sylvan, the voice annoys me. I can't listen to it anymore. The drumming and guitarplaying is like that of schoolband, no innovation at all. They want to bridge prog and pop, but almost every popband is better.

There are a lot more, that I can't listen to anymore, because they reached their expiring date: Riverside, Arena, Galahad, RPWL.

Exceptions are  Pendragon and IQ.

I wonder if it's a phase, that I will like them in the future, or that neoprog in fact is a subgenre with the least innovation possible. Also the least talented musicians seem to play neoprog. Maybe because it's the most paint-by-numbers subgenre in music.

Does anyone else have this aswell? That something that used to rock your boat, suddenly lost its appeal?

Not like Marillion really get on my nerves.

With Arena it is their early stuff I'm not keen on because of the vocals - love the Rob Sowden albums especially Pepper's Ghost and 7th Degree with Paul Manzi is awesome, Unquiet Sky is just OK!!

The vocals that I hate are Dream Theater & Nightwish with Tarja, plus any band with growly vocals!

What I originally meant is, bands you were totally into, and played to death.

I mean; I really liked Posthumous Silence by Sylvan, but I played it today and I couldn't stand it.

Funny, I was just going to post that the first two prog records I bought on vinyl were Pendragon's Fly High, Fall Far EP and IQ's The Wake. Loved them at the time, but couldn't sit through them now - likewise the Marillion, Pallas and other neo albums I used to dig in the eighties.

Blacksword wrote: Porcupine Tree.

Same here, but I left the treehouse after Signify.

I only listen to the more modern (sophisticated) versions of these bands, IQ's Subterrannea and Pendragon's Believe and Pure (although almost 10-20 years old) really stand out.

But I agree with The Wake. I listened a lot to it. But those drums and the all that chaos. I like The Thousand Days the most from The Wake :D

Manuel wrote: Marillion is my top band that I dislike now. also Arena lost my vote, and I haven't been able to get through an entire album. I liked Neal Morse solo work in the beginning, but I grew bored of his stuff as of lately.

Same here. I loved Arena up through The Visitor. What they did in '95-99 rocked big time. Then I got into Threshold and they more or less filled that void.

Stopped with Spock's a long time ago, as well, after Kindness. I like Morse's ?, but I don't have anything else of his.

I still like their older material musically but I cant stand Labries vocals anymore.

I'm curious how my taste will evolve though, but I'd dare to bet that my most loved bands right now will age much better than DT did for me.

However, there are some bands I listened to quite a lot when I was younger and now rarely if ever listen to them anymore. Those would be Iron Maiden, Queensryche, and Triumph. oh sure, every now and then I still get the urge but that urge is few and farrrr between these days.

Exactly. Where's the fun in making music? It's all so depressing and wannabe-intellectual.

And most neoprog-songs are eventually just poprock, but then 15 minutes long.

No wonder Marillion's best album (Clutching) features shorter songs. They realized they were a bad progband but a good popband, and then suddenly they hit big!

Interesting point! I think I generally agree..

Although the mentioning of Caligula's Horse brings me to another thing I noticed:

Many bands tend to lose their punch, get less extreme/dark/crazy as they evolve. Sometimes they shift into something I enjoy more (the Contortionist or even Opeth for example) while their older stuff was too extreme for my taste. And sometimes they become a little too uplifting and soft (like Riverside or Anathema).

I guess there is a specific (narrow) spectrum of heaviness and darkness my music has to match or else it gets less interesting for me.

Try different foods. You get out what you put in 

Have you listened to Spock's Beard lately? They've changed quite a bit since Neal Morse was in the band. Not saying you'll like it but they certainly haven't remained bound to the same formula.

I feel the same way.....on the Heep.

Yes. Anderson's vocals grate.

ELP. I still like some of their stuff, but Emerson is so over the top.

The rest of the bands mentioned on here: Marillion, Riverside, IQ, Arena, Heep, Ash, Genesis: they just get better and better.

Strange, to me it's the opposite. Since the live releases of John Lees Barclay James Harvest, I seem to be addicted to their music. Together with Saga and Camel, my most played progband.

I lost interest in some albums, more than bands as a whole...

I still love the early stuff, but they went downhill after "Animals" IMHO.

But I'm noticing a trend in my personal taste, I focus more on individual albums and way less on a whole discography by a band. I used to listen to almost everything from Kansas, Gentle Giant, Toto and Rush.. but as of latetly, there a albums that I just ignore.. 

I haven't listen to Leftoverture in a while, still banging my head to Song For America, Masque and Point Of Know Return on regular basis, funny because Leftoverture was THE album which introduced me to the world of Kansas.

Same story, Octopus was my entry to Gentle Giant.. nowadays I barely listen to it, while I am playing In A Glass House to death

The early stuff of Rush was king for me while in high school, recently I find myself being focused almost solely on Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures with glimpses of Signals, Grace Under Pressure and Power Windows sprinkled in.

Toto is a different story because they aren't a prog band per se, but have albums and individual tracks which cross over to the proggy side, so it's only natural for me to focus on them and leave the poppy stuff aside. Would take Hydra and Falling In Between to a lonely island any day.

The only exception of this process is my all-time favourite band Jethro Tull, where I tend to widen my horizen, as I just recently got really into Roots To Branches while playing TaaB, Passion Play, Songs, Horses and the mighty Minstrel on a regular basis.. and A.. A need more love guys  

This whole post, is something I could've written down :D

back when I was young, I spent billions on completing entire discographies. That was before you could instantly download everything.

A huge waste of money, because not all albums by my favorite artists I did like, but I just wanted to OWN them. Pity.

I even bought all the soloalbums of John Wetton, Jon Anderson, all the Moody Blues solo efforts etc. etc.

Now in the age of streaming music, I can just skip an album if I don't like it, and no money was spent in vain.

That being said: Camel, Saga, Jehtro Tull, Ozric Tentacles and Barclay James Harvest can do nothing wrong in my book!

Same here....

I don't get this at all. You could stop liking their subsequent works because the something different they are now doing isn't to your taste - does the fact that I don't like Giant For A Day really invalidate my love of Octopus, as far as you're concerned?  Equally you could dislike the later work because they just keep repeating the same approach and it gets more and more boring / less and less inspired as time goes on (too many bands to mention).

back when I was young, I spent billions on completing entire discographies. That was before you could instantly download everything.

A huge waste of money, because not all albums by my favorite artists I did like, but I just wanted to OWN them. Pity. - wrote Kingsnake

Hi,

Weird ... I don't sit here and say that Beethoven's 5th suxxed rocks and the 8th was far out, and that the 9th bored me to death!

It's the same "artist" and "composer". AND, unlike us fans, THEY ARE PEOPLE and they are there, because you are not capable of putting together anything like they did.

Complaining about this and that about Marillion, PT, or Beatles, or Rolling Stones, or James Brown, is a total disrespect for the amount of work they put together that have given us all so much love and appreciation.

Grow UP! Learn to appreciate music ... for what it is ... and if you don't like it, go make your own, to see if you can stand up to these comments and still enjoy the music!

Good luck!

Hi,

Weird ... I don't sit here and say that Beethoven's 5th suxxed rocks and the 8th was far out, and that the 9th bored me to death!

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I like that part about Beethoven!  Good point!

But why not? 5th and 9th are so popular that one can get bored listening to it too often! 

Besides, yes, we are people, and our tastes are chaining. 

I guess the entire thread is about how folks change their opinion of some bands when they grow older and develop "proggier" tastes or after string of mediocre albums of the band that they used to love.

Uriah Heep case is a good illustration, and I feel in similar way. When I was young, I loved them (well, Hensley era only), then I grew cold. I know why: 

1) I listened too much of them

2) my music tastes mutated towards more complicated and esoteric stuff

The same can be said about Deep Purple and Queen. However, I listen to their classics ones in a while and enjoy them, along with Uriah Heep.

As of examples of a string of mediocre albums that made me dislike some bands, the examples are Arena, Pain of Salvation, Dream Theater, Spock's Beard. They managed to record excellent, even great albums in the past, but then they just went down, IMHO. DT less than other, but still....

I almost added Ayreon to that list, but Arjen's last opus proved I was wrong! 

The opposite for me is Opeth that getting better and better after Mikael dropped that stupid kooki monster "vocal"  Or Devin Townsend that's getting better as well. 

SO, why don't we start a thread 

Oh, poor Marillion...  Funny enough, I have different experience. I didn't care of them too much, even for Fish era. I liked a few songs very much, but never entire album. Then I went to one of their Weekends in Montreal, and I was sold. Not that I began a crazy fan, but I started appreciate them much more than before. I prefer their later albums, starting from Marbles. 

omphaloskepsis wrote: KISS

They were my favorite band as a kid, and I still like them now but not NEARLY as much as I did then. 

ON TOPIC, the only band in my case is Symphony X. Used to think they were great but nowadays don't find them overly impressive. They have a few great tracks, a lot of "whatever" tracks, and one cohesively good album (V).

Although, if we're talking not-prog.... well. Nickelback, 3 Doors Down, Backstreet Boys, N'Sync, Kelly Clarkson, Shinedown, more radio-hit bands I listened to in my mid-teens. I blame Rush. 

And the comparison to Beethoven is a good one. Those symphonies were composed before the invention of the gramophone record. People used to buy the sheet music to the compositions and play it on their pianos (a piano transcription to a symphony was common). If you lived around Beethoven's time you would be lucky to listen to a Beethoven symphony once in your life time. Now you even get to hear symphonies during adverts on TV for just about anything. Beach Boys music has been destroyed by its association with adverts on TV. Brian Wilson slaved for 6 months creating Good Vibrations and now its just a throw away for any for any product line on TV.

Same here. I do like DT's first three albums, and the EPs. Then I jump ship. 

I should revisit those later Arena albums. I still like the Carson/Wrightson albums best.

I've outgrown these two bands. I still enjoy them occasionally but the excitement is gone possibly due to over exposure. In fact for me over exposure is the biggest factor for me having a declining interest in certain bands. It doesn't really happen much with most prog however. The funny thing is I still like Pink Floyd and Rush.

Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, (hate to say it) Tull, Black Sabbath, later Rush all fit into this. 

Dream Theater showed me that I like Symphony X a million times more .

I think Incubus is the text book case for me. Such power and energy and then they mellowed out. The magic was gone. 

Did you try Counterparts? I hear ya about Roll The Bones though. 

Looks like you could take your own advice. Below is  https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=56850&PN=4" rel="nofollow - One of your posts from 2009

belatarr wrote: Relax man it's just a discussion in a forum.  Anyways since your inability to discuss without getting your teenage anger on the way I'll leave the discussion as it is.

I find it revoltingly heterosexual. Please respect my opinion

But the saddest thing, I must admit that Hogarth totally screwed up Marillion these days, but he's not the only aggressor. Ian Mosley's drumming used to inspire me but he seems sedated and nothing he does on the latest albums is worth mentioning. Also the guitarsound of Rothery these days is dreadful.

Their last great albums (for me) are Marillion.com and Marbles, but because I started to dislike Hogarth's voice these albums are even difficult to get through. I find it sad, because I don't like disliking a band.

Another band that went the way of pure boredom (according to me) is Annihilator. The only band I can think of that had 2 great starting albums and never ever topped to those albums. Maybe Jeff Waters should've tried to not do everything on his own and allow others to write and play more with the band.

Also I listened to Molly Hatchet for a few years (when I was totally into southern rock), but I find they are the deathblow that genre, only emphasizing the redneck-thing.
Another Southern Rock band that went totally the wrong way is Lynyrd Skynyrd. They where once a hippie-band and now turned into a guns-loving, right-wing, nationalist band with more countryrock than actual blues/boogie. They had some great 90's albums but the last 15 years I'm ashamed that I liked the band. Luckily I can listen to their really old stuff.

  

Sorry, but I find that funny. 

Yes has gone from playing the largest venues in Chicago to a tiny local theater (Arcada in St. Charles) that mostly books tribute bands and, on occasion, another relic like BOC.  I'm passing on the upcoming Yes show. 

Thanks to your usage of abbrevations I understand nothing of your post.

LOL

CTTE - Close to the Edge

ARW - Anderson Rabin Wakeman

BOC - Blue Oyster Cult

Thank you!  I thought they were self-explanatory, considering the nature of my post.

 1) Any band that starts platforming about social, economic, religious or political agendas. Their music can be as brilliant as Zappa was; But I just can't stomach the commentary anymore no matter how funny it may be.

2) Shred and constant time-changing instrumentals. We get it, you can play fast and you are completely in your understanding of music. But take a cue from Mozart, compose and arrange the music to float the listener. You don't need to fill every space with 32nd notes, that's just crap and a complete turn-off.