Yes, it was a little over a year ago. I should have searched google first. Oh well. I guess I could delete this poll but that poll only had the two options where with mine I added two more options. 

Same here.

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Am I correct in assuming that King Crimson is much more popular among younger fans these days than Yes is? I'm not just saying that because of this poll. It's just a feeling I get in general. Yes are not seen as cool anymore it seems.

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All hope is not lost fellow Yes fans!

That doesn't mean anything. Lol. Look at all the people who probably only have "Dark Side of the Moon" as the only Pink Floyd album they own. That doesn't make them big Pink Floyd fans. 

I am a younger fan.

CTTE is my favorite album by Yes, and between King Crimson and Yes, it ranks just after LTIA. However, then King Crimson take over... I like Yes, but sometimes they can be on the more boring side. That is why I prefer the poppier 90125, for example. I saw Yes live though, and it was very sensational and all!

Fair enough, but we're arguably comparing KC's second most popular album (on this site) to what I would tentatively judge to be Yes' third or fourth most popular. 

Granted, KC feels a tad more timeless, where Yes can instantly be placed in the 70's by the high-pitched vocals, quasi-spiritual lyrics, and greater keyboard emphasis. Perhaps KC has that heavy edge that lets them cross over with metal, punk, and alt rock listeners. Nonetheless, Yes is easily going strong (among prog fans; the general public knows little about either group, 80's pop aside).

As for Floyd, they're a unique case. They crossed over in a way that no other prog or experimental act in the 70's did. Little can be extrapolated from their fandom or from just how bizarrely their pre-DSOTM material is forgotten. 

mechanicalflattery wrote: Fair enough, but we're arguably comparing KC's second most popular album (on this site) to what I would tentatively judge to be Yes' third or fourth most popular.

Great point.

Put Close to the Edge up against any KC album and watch what happens. 

You'd be surprised, actually...

I wouldn't say that either band necessarily has any "mainstream" popularity among young people, but among the other young prog fans I know, they're both very well respected. And then there are some young people who love Yes but don't even necessarily know King Crimson (and vice versa, mind you). I was actually at a college party a few months ago and met two or three other students there who were super into 70's Yes (we debated for quite a bit at whether The Yes Album or Fragile was better and eventually hijacked the party playlist to put on Yours Is No Disgrace). Good times. 

So I wouldn't say that King Crimson is much more popular among young people than King Crimson is, but then again neither is especially popular in the first place.

Well, I don't know where you live but it doesn't seem to be that way in the US. I would love to be proven wrong but in the US at least it seems most younger people into prog are into prog metal and or other newer bands and not much into Yes(this site would be an exception of course). What is my basis for saying this? Well, I have spent time on prog facebook gruops, Yes facebook groups and on their fan site and there seems to be hardly anyone in any of them under 45. So maybe only the hardcore fans are older. I'm not sure. You are right that over all they aren't that known but in my opinion Yes seems to be far more under rated and under appreciated than they should be by younger fans(at least in the US). Just my opinion based on my observation. I think KC has some kind of street cred or hipster respect that Yes doesn't. If you look on the rate your music site which is probably mostly younger people ITCOTCK has 18,000 ratings where CTTE "only" has 12,000.

So I think it mostly has to do with how much King Crimson is "authentic", "creative" and free of boundaries compared to most well-known prog bands (not to say that this makes them better btw).

This was just north of the border, though the people I was talking to were actually American (from Colorado). But I definitely agree with you that, statistically speaking, Yes is something of an obscurity among us young'uns; even those of us into prog. Although pretty much every young prog fan I've met in real life has been into 70's prog, I've definitely also noticed the prog metal fixation from browsing other online music sites. I'm sure if you asked the average millennial what they knew about prog, the most common response would definitely be "what?", which would then be followed by "you mean like Pink Floyd?", which would then be followed by "Yeah, I love Dream Theater, Between The Buried and Me, [insert more prog metal bands here], Porcupine Tree, and Rush!", and then way down there on the outer tail of the bell curve you'd have those like myself who are actually into Yes, King Crimson, et al.

With that in mind, though, it seems to me that of the young people who frequent this forum, we do tend to be biased slightly more towards the jazz/avant/experimental side of things than the symphonic prog of yore, but there are still plenty of us who admire the classics. That said, I don't think that we make up a big enough fraction of forum-goers for this to have any significant sway on the outcome of polls like this one.

LTIA 1.5*

but

I had to think about that for a second since Bruford has played with both bands. 

Did you know that Bill Bruford also played on Chris Squire's "Fish out of Water" album?

As much as it disappoints me, the truth is that Yes and Genesis are no longer the gateway bands for those getting into prog for the first time. Sure, for some maybe but not for the majority of the younger prog fans. It wasn't like this for a long time but Yes and most of the other classic seventies prog bands(with the exception of PF and maybe KC; Rush too but they weren't really part of the original prog wave in most respects)have been buried underneath all the prog metal and newer prog stuff(including post rock)that gets more recognition and attention these days. Ultimately, most people(especially younger folks)are social creatures and will gravitate towards what their friends like and what their friends think is hip and cool. If liking ELP and Yes and Genesis isn't cool or hip then they are out as far as prog goes. Most of the fans on this forum though go deeper and are a bit more open minded and hardcore so don't really make up the typical prog fans(same thing for some of the other prog sites and fb groups). Most of the general discussion boards though like reddit and all the gamer ones and general music forums that have prog mentioned or a special little prog section seem to get responses mostly from the young hipster prog fans who are in love with Riverside, Haken and Opeth but don't have any PG era Genesis or Yes albums or more obscure vintage albums. 

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: As much as it disappoints me, the truth is that Yes and Genesis are no longer the gateway bands for those getting into prog for the first time. Sure, for some maybe but not for the majority of the younger prog fans. It wasn't like this for a long time but Yes and most of the other classic seventies prog bands(with the exception of PF and maybe KC; Rush too but they weren't really part of the original prog wave in most respects)have been buried underneath all the prog metal and newer prog stuff(including post rock)that gets more recognition and attention these days. Ultimately, most people(especially younger folks)are social creatures and will gravitate towards what their friends like and what their friends think is hip and cool. If liking ELP and Yes and Genesis isn't cool or hip then they are out as far as prog goes. Most of the fans on this forum though go deeper and are a bit more open minded and hardcore so don't really make up the typical prog fans(same thing for some of the other prog sites and fb groups). Most of the general discussion boards though like reddit and all the gamer ones and general music forums that have prog mentioned or a special little prog section seem to get responses mostly from the young hipster prog fans who are in love with Riverside, Haken and Opeth but don't have any PG era Genesis or Yes albums or more obscure vintage albums.

I've just read something that... I can't even. Just look away.. just look away!! 

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: As much as it disappoints me, the truth is that Yes and Genesis are no longer the gateway bands for those getting into prog for the first time. Sure, for some maybe but not for the majority of the younger prog fans. It wasn't like this for a long time but Yes and most of the other classic seventies prog bands(with the exception of PF and maybe KC; Rush too but they weren't really part of the original prog wave in most respects)have been buried underneath all the prog metal and newer prog stuff(including post rock)that gets more recognition and attention these days. Ultimately, most people(especially younger folks)are social creatures and will gravitate towards what their friends like and what their friends think is hip and cool. If liking ELP and Yes and Genesis isn't cool or hip then they are out as far as prog goes. Most of the fans on this forum though go deeper and are a bit more open minded and hardcore so don't really make up the typical prog fans(same thing for some of the other prog sites and fb groups). Most of the general discussion boards though like reddit and all the gamer ones and general music forums that have prog mentioned or a special little prog section seem to get responses mostly from the young hipster prog fans who are in love with Riverside, Haken and Opeth but don't have any PG era Genesis or Yes albums or more obscure vintage albums.

Speaking as someone who got into Prog in this decade (although I don't like Metal much), what kept me from getting into bands like PF, Genesis or Yes was listening to their 80's hits on the radio. That's the uncool stuff! It took some incentive to explore more from them, respectively: seeing The Australian Pink Floyd, listening to Firth of Fifth on a web radio, seeing Roger Dean's artwork (as part of Fly From Here's promotion) and wondering how was the music behind it  I never even heard of King Crimson until ITCOTCK was suggested by Youtube 

So if you don't mind me asking how old are you and how did you first discover prog and get into it(what bands etc)?

Like Relayer, but not my favorite by them.

Well, I don't think the age on someone's profile is automatically updated(although I could be wrong)so I could assume that you are around 27 now since you joined in 2013. 

Well then it must automatically update every time you have a birthday(something I wasn't aware of).

Very close battle imho, good job OP.