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Topic: Doors most prog one
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Subject: Doors most prog one
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 09:13

 

C'mon! tell me if you think there's a song or something proggish in Doors!

 




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Posted By: ummagumma08
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 09:54
I go for "The End" amazing track easily Doors' best. Though I would not even consider calling The Doors' music prog...  


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 11:16
The Doors may not be prog, but a few of their songs definitely show some proggish features. IMO the proggiest of their tracks is Riders on the Storm, followed of course by The End and When the Music's Over.


Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 15:27

Hello Andrea.

Spanish caravan is amazing, first that flamenco guitar intro and then a sultry atmosphere, blended with Morrison his melancholical vocals and fiery electric guitar, SPLENDID!

The end and When the music's over are two compelling progrock compositions (shifting moods, dramatic build -up and climax, excellent), Light my fire Live is an exciting progrock track (stunning organ peformance by Ray Manzarek).

Let's not forget Riders on the storm, another progrock song by The Doors featuring wonderful Fender Rhodes piano and warm vocals by the late Jim (#3 after Jimi and Janis).

Keep on proggin' with The Doors!!



Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 15:38
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

Hello Andrea.

Spanish caravan is amazing, first that flamenco guitar intro and then a sultry atmosphere, blended with Morrison his melancholical vocals and fiery electric guitar, SPLENDID!

The end and When the music's over are two compelling progrock compositions (shifting moods, dramatic build -up and climax, excellent), Light my fire Live is an exciting progrock track (stunning organ peformance by Ray Manzarek).

Let's not forget Riders on the storm, another progrock song by The Doors featuring wonderful Fender Rhodes piano and warm vocals by the late Jim (#3 after Jimi and Janis).

Keep on proggin' with The Doors!!

Hello Erik,

you're right

There are lots of great pieces from The Doors!Thumbs Up

Absolutely Live (1970) is miliar stone of the music's history! I'm speaking about the highest standard of imagination and stunning ideas from Jim Morrison and co.

People, don't reduce the word PROG to your own copyright!!!!!

 



Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 15:48
'Spanish Caravan' is their proggiest moment- there's some wonderful interplay between guitar and keyboard there.


Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 15:50
Riders on the storm is one of my all-time favourite songs, and one of those songs that you can call prog if you want. That does not mean though that the Doors a re a prog rock band (e.g. Dire Straits and Meat Loaf recorded songs that I would call prog, but no-one would advocate their presence on this site).

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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 16:46
The proggiest and my favourite song is When the music`s over

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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 19:00

Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

The proggiest and my favourite song is When the music`s over

When the music's over is really a great one!!! I prefer it than The End (which is memorable, yet).

 

...what about The Unknown Soldier?



Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 00:29

 

As I thought, The End is the most popular...

but, I repeat, it seems to be The Celebration Of The Lizard King overtaking all tracks above mentioned!



Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 00:33

When The Music's Over for me ... and I'll agree that Not To Touch The Earth has some progressive tendancies (they are both in my Top 5 Doors songs) ...

The album An American Prayer, which is basically Morisson poetry with backing by the Doors, might appeal to some proggers ...



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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 00:51
Originally posted by Trotsky Trotsky wrote:

When The Music's Over for me ... and I'll agree that Not To Touch The Earth has some progressive tendancies (they are both in my Top 5 Doors songs) ...

The album An American Prayer, which is basically Morisson poetry with backing by the Doors, might appeal to some proggers ...

An American Prayer is a good one!Thumbs Up

Does anybody listened to the other post-Morrison works?

Other Voices-1971 (this one is good).

Full Circle-1972 (never listened to).

 



Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 21:01

NONE!!!

They did NO prog song whatso EVER!!!

Just because they have keyboards doesnt makes them prog!



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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 00:36
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

NONE!!!

They did NO prog song whatso EVER!!!

Just because they have keyboards doesnt makes them prog!

You think you have a positive definition for the word "prog"...?

Ok, prog is an european phenomenon, is Yes (80s apart), is Genesis (Collins apart), is Jethro Tull (80s apart) is Queen (only for Queen II and A NIght At The Opera) but, I repeat, this is THEIR prog, not THE prog:

in fact prog is a conventional word. Its definition depends on how strictly or largely you're trying to give it some contents!!!

 

 



Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 21:43
Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

NONE!!!

They did NO prog song whatso EVER!!!

Just because they have keyboards doesnt makes them prog!

You think you have a positive definition for the word "prog"...?

Ok, prog is an european phenomenon, is Yes (80s apart), is Genesis (Collins apart), is Jethro Tull (80s apart) is Queen (only for Queen II and A NIght At The Opera) but, I repeat, this is THEIR prog, not THE prog:

in fact prog is a conventional word. Its definition depends on how strictly or largely you're trying to give it some contents!!!

 

 

All you say may be true or not...but the Doors are definitly NOT prog!!!



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Posted By: Odysseus
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 23:04
My fav songs by the Doors are: Riders On The Storm, Love Me Two Times, Break On Through, People Are Strange, Roadhouse Blues and Light My Fire. But I consider none of them prog at all.
The only song, IMO, that sounds like prog by the Doors is:

The Soft Parade


Posted By: lordoflight
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 16:21

spanish caravan's intro was taken from a song by isaac albeniz called leyenda. its a piece for classical guitar and its really fantastic



Posted By: Prodigal
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 17:31
I love the whispered vocals, guitar riffs and the overall sound of the keyboards in "Riders On The Storm".


Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 18:01

Originally posted by Prodigal Prodigal wrote:

I love the whispered vocals, guitar riffs and the overall sound of the keyboards in "Riders On The Storm".

Totally.  Weren't the Doors one of the first groups to use moogs?  I read this somewhere, but I don't know any songs that have the moog on them.



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Posted By: Lizard_King
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 03:42
heyyyyyy The Celebration Of The Lizard!!!
I think this peace of 17min (less or more in different live rec.) could be called prog, THE END could be prog rock in some kind of way as well... but I cant agree thet they are prog-rock, though I worship them.


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 03:54
No-one voted for "Light my Fire" so far? The chromatic guitar solo of Robbie Krieger alone makes it very proggy!

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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 04:16

The intro from Spanish Caravan is based upon a 'granainas', a flamenco piece (like a bulerias or a sevillanas), Robbie was also an accomplished flamenco guitarplayer  . Another great example how progressive The Doors were .. ..!!



Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 04:24
The intro to "Spanish Caravan" is  based on a piece of music by Isaac Albeniz.

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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 05:18

I have phoned two flamenco record shops in order to trace the roots of the intro of Spanish Caravan by The Doors: parts of the flamenco guitar intro are based upon a 'granadinas' but the main lines and interplay between guitar and keyboards are almost literally derived from Asturias by Isaac Albeniz. Both owners of the record shops emphasized that the Spanish guitar music composers were influenced by the flamenco guitar music.



Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 05:21
Interestingly that piece of music by Albeniz was composed for piano and not for guitar.

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Posted By: Lizard_King
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 05:29
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The intro to "Spanish Caravan" is  based on a piece of music by Isaac Albeniz.


btw The Doors had juridical trouble with this song.. they got sued for stealing it ©


Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 05:31
Albeniz could look into the future, I am sure he wrote it for Ray Manzarek his organ  !


Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 05:49
The most prog is "When the music's over" and especially some live covers.


Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 15:03

 

 

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All you say may be true or not...but the Doors are definitly NOT prog!!!

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What's prog in your opinion?

Give some arguments please.

Or are you the owner of the name 'prog'?



Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 15:22
Probably The Soft Parade or The End (from what I've heard).


Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 16:11
When it'll be time for the inclusion of The Doors here on PA?


Posted By: horza
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 16:29
Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

When it'll be time for the inclusion of The Doors here on PA?



I love the Doors - visited Jim's grave in Paris when I was there (Pere Lachaise cemetary) - I voted for 'The End' - BUT I can't ever see them on here though

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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 18:28
In the early Eighties I have visited Jim's grave too in Paris (from the entrance to the grave, follow the graffity arrows with 'Jim'!), I seems that a few years ago his bust was stolen!


Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 03:17
Tough choice. The  End and When the Music is over are maybe proggier but my favourite is Riders on the Storm.


Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 13:54

How it was possibile for me to forget to include Spanish Caravan in the poll?Cry

One of my favourite tracks of all time...



Posted By: Peace Frog
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 15:38
The Soft Parade. It's just overall insane, and the lyrics are profound and bizarre, yet amazingly insightful and deep, and everything you could ask for of a prog song.  

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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: November 20 2006 at 10:41
The songs "The Soft Parade" and "Celebration of the lizard/Not to touch the earth" are prog songs by every possible definition of the term, except they were written by non-prog band.

All the other songs mentioned in the poll are at least somewhat proggy, besides "Spanish Caravan", you forgot to mention "Unknown Soldier" and "L'America".And entire "An American Prayer" album.

Check their latest works, previously unreleased, when Ray swapped Vox for Hammond. And "Whiskey, Mystics and Men", utilising mandolins and accordions.

They are not prog enough for PA, but they are proto-prog in my book.


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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: November 20 2006 at 12:42
Amongst the main candidates, in my opinion, are: "Riders on the Storm", "The Soft Parade", "Light my Fire", "When the Music's Over". The progressive spirit soars above many others as well... But I have to vote for "The End" (it doesn't mean, though, that it's my favourite The Doors song).


Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 21:03
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

Hello Andrea.

Spanish caravan is amazing, first that flamenco guitar intro and then a sultry atmosphere, blended with Morrison his melancholical vocals and fiery electric guitar, SPLENDID!

The end and When the music's over are two compelling progrock compositions (shifting moods, dramatic build -up and climax, excellent), Light my fire Live is an exciting progrock track (stunning organ peformance by Ray Manzarek).

Let's not forget Riders on the storm, another progrock song by The Doors featuring wonderful Fender Rhodes piano and warm vocals by the late Jim (#3 after Jimi and Janis).

Keep on proggin' with The Doors!!

 
 Spanish Caravan is great


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