1978: Attahk of the killer Tormato
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Topic: 1978: Attahk of the killer Tormato
Posted By: Logan
Subject: 1978: Attahk of the killer Tormato
Date Posted: August 10 2018 at 17:45
With this idea, I might just have to dodge an attahk of rotten tormatoes. In case you don't know both albums, here is the longest song off each album. "Dondai (To an Eternal Love)": "On the Silent Wings of Freedom" |
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 10 2018 at 19:15
| I use to listen to the instrumental opening of On the silent wings of freedom---on repeat---Howes guitar at the end right before vocals come in is so great---Howe Squire and White never repeated this kind of exciting groove on any later albums --why I don't know. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: August 10 2018 at 19:49
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I've always loved Tormato more than most but Attahk is fairly meh in my world. -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Walkscore
Date Posted: August 10 2018 at 19:56
| Tormato for sure. I would place Tormato over most of Magma's albums, except for the first one. Tormato is full of unrealized potential. As Rick Wakeman once said, if they had spent more time developing some of the tunes, they might now be among the most-cherished Yes tunes. As it is, Don't Kill the Whale, Future Times, and On the Silent Wings of Freedom are up there in the list. I like Tormato far better than Drama, although still only three stars. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 10 2018 at 20:50
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Kobaia is my favourite Magma album. I hadn't much liked Attahk at first, aside from one track not "Dondai", as I found it deliciously silly, but it's an album that I found myself playing on vacation a lot after having owned it for years, and it just fit my mood at the time. Both Tormato and Attahk can be rather silly, and that's fun. I happen to love Attahk, although I wouldn't rate it as high as various other Magma albums. "Nono" is probably my favourite track off it. Aside from any similarities when it comes to any absurdity in both, and of course aside from my excuse at making an Attack of the Killer Tomatoes play on words, which is really more than enough reason as this site can never have too much humour, lame or not, I was interested to see how they would fare up against each other as Tormato has a 2.98 average score with 1407 ratings, while Magma has a 3.69 score with 330 ratings. Perhaps people are being harder on Tormato in the ratings because it is such a beloved by many band. Here is a positive review of each album: Attahk:
Tormato:
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MovingPictures07 wrote:Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: August 10 2018 at 22:37
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I'm a huge Tormato supporter; an album that I think is truly underrated. I put it about 7 to 8 out of 10. Never really understood the production criticisms either, as it has a much snappier sound than the clouded-in-reverb Going For the One. Attahk is an album I just got into recently, and it's hella fun! Unfortunately I mistakenly bought Russian knock-off CD's of Attahk and the debut. I was really bummed to discover it too since they weren't cheap. Don't buy from Russia! Anyway, I knew "The Last Seven Minutes" from it long before I got the album and it's one of my favourite pieces of music of all time. Such propulsive energy with equal parts beauty. Never fails to get me goin'! So it's close, but I went with Attahk. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: August 10 2018 at 23:01
| Not big Attahk-fan (I think it´s Magma´s worst album right after Üdü Wüdü) but it´s still better than Tormato, so my vote goes to it. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 11 2018 at 01:42
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Attahk is probably Magma's weakest 70's album - but then again Magma doesn't have any weak 70's albums and I love it. Not the biggest Yes-fan to begin with and Tomato I might have listened to only once. Can't remember anything except for not enjoying it at all. ------------- 
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Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: August 11 2018 at 02:55
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Tormato is very underrated in my opinion, the opening track is quite good, and the album closer "On the Silent Wings of Freedom" is a masterpiece tbh. ------------- I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!) Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp ! |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 11 2018 at 04:15
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Tormato is the nadir of Yes's 70's output and Attahk is not among the best in Magma's catalog. Attahk is the better of these two imo. The songs in the first post are the best of these albums in my book. (Dondai is great). ------------- 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 11 2018 at 07:51
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^ For me it's Nono, that one just really gets to me, but Dondai is great. I like the whole album. At first the track I loved was "Liriïk Necronomicus Kahnt'. That was one of the first songs I heard of Magma (before I had the album), and the fun weirdness I loved. I guess it relates to the first Magma song I loved, which is ""Iss" Lanseï Doïa" off 1001° Centigrades, as it is also fun and put a big smile on my face. "Hhai" was another early favourite, and it makes me feel good. For me, Attahk is feel good, uplifting music, and I can move to it. When the record ends, I usually feel great, despite that irritating high frequency noise. Kobaia, 1001° Centigrades, Retrospektïẁ (Parts I+II) and Attahk are the album I tend to return to the most. Going to share "Nono" for those that haven't heard the album. Thanks for all the responses -- it's a pleasure to read your posts. It's really great to hear opinions on both albums.
That is an unusual opinion, not that there's anything wrong with unorthodox opinions of course. Most people, as I'm sure you're aware but at least in the interests of a larger audience that may not know Magma well perusing this thread, put Merci lower than both Üdü Wüdü and Attahk (I haven't heard Magma's latest). I like Merci particularly for the B side. Üdü Wüdü has never been a favourite of mine -- been years since I last listened to it. I like the particular energy of Attahk. Holy Attahk of the Captcha: throws rotten tormatoes at it (try, try, try, try, try, try, try again). |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 11 2018 at 08:36
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Rotten Tormato it is! ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 11 2018 at 08:43
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: August 11 2018 at 14:55
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Tormato gets the nod. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 11 2018 at 17:31
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I rate Attakh pretty highly on the Magma scale. I love most everything they did, but that one hits the spot like none other when I’m in a certain mood. Tormato isn’t bad (underrated in my view) but Magma wins easily for me. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 11 2018 at 17:33
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YES E E SEY ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 11 2018 at 17:58
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Attahk is not among the top Magma albums for me and then I don't find Tormato that bad. So it's a tight affair but still Attahk wins. I'll take what some wrote here as an inspiration to give Attahk another spin or two and then also Tormato because I feel they both may have some potential still to unveil for me.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 11 2018 at 19:14
| In my experience, Attahk is best listened to by the pool while sipping margaritas at a tropical resort, or whatever substitute comes closest (like drinking beer in the car park of your nearest public swimming pool). |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: August 11 2018 at 23:55
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 12 2018 at 12:03
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Please......don't make me choose. ;) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 12 2018 at 12:17
I won’t attahk you with rotten tormatoes if you choose not to. Perhaps I should have included the options “I’d rather be attahked by a killer tormato...” than suffer through these albums and “I’d rather attahk you with rotten tormatoes ...”and make you suffer. While I love Attakh and find it so much fun, it’s surely not an album for every one. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 13 2018 at 01:28
you keep saying To(r)mato is underrated but seeing how many votes it got on the two polls recently goes to show it isn't underrated at all. How is it winning so far in this poll, I do not get it. Like you say, the opening and closing songs are great, I agree, but the rest? Onward is decent and Release Release at least rocks, so half the album is ok, the other half is rather horrid if you ask me.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: August 13 2018 at 17:24
| I don't know exactly why, but I'll go for YES on this one. I like both albums, but I prefer Yes. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 14 2018 at 16:06
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Easily Magma. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 18 2020 at 23:53
Magma not by much ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 18 2020 at 23:58
| Two great albums I put on an even keel. Attahk has this tight, dry sound I enjoy a lot, and Tormato has Squire’s wrelchy Rickenbacker, mostly awesome songs on both. I guess if I have to choose, the Yes fanboy in me wins out. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 07 2021 at 11:38
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nice poll ! bump
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 07 2021 at 11:56
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For me it's "Attahk" due to "Maahnt - the Wizard's Fight versus the Devil", especially where the wizard repeatedly says something that sounds like the German "Bet mit" ("Pray with me"), in answer to which the devil only makes obscene noises and in the end finally mockingly goes "ooh, maahnt", which the wizard also says repeatedly and which sounds like the German "mahnt", meaning "urge" (as a verb in the imperative plural form). At other times the wizard says something like "Send mir die Kraft", German for "Send me the power". This gives some funny meaning to the vocals when one speaks German. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: February 07 2021 at 12:03
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Tormato. Madrigal is a great song. Not many people like it, but that's ok. I love it. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Spacegod87
Date Posted: February 07 2021 at 21:07
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As I've stated before, Tormato was the first prog LP I ever bought, and I still maintain that the album is not as bad as people say. I think it is enjoyable and fun and I'm not ashamed to admit that I love it. ------------- Levitating downwards, atomic feedback scream. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 07 2021 at 21:28
You gotta love Yes fans. Oh how dare they make Tales From Topographic Oceans, it's too long and bloated and too much repetition! Oh how dare they make Tormato! The songs are too short and have too much crossover appeal. Oh brother. I love EVERY Yes album from the very first self-titled debut to the huge pop crossover behemoth 90125. After that the albums were hit and miss (mostly miss) but Yes was utterly brilliant in how they could reinvent themselves time and time again. ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |