Three Friends vs Wind and Wuthering
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Topic: Three Friends vs Wind and Wuthering
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: Three Friends vs Wind and Wuthering
Date Posted: October 03 2018 at 16:12
Both are albums that took me a while to get into but I think both are great and among my favorites by each band.
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: October 03 2018 at 16:46
I love most of W&W, but all of Three Friends so it get's my vote.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: October 03 2018 at 16:51
Three Friends is one of my least favorite GG albums, and since I saw Genesis just prior to W&W being released, I'll go with Genesis for sentimental reasons.
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Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: October 03 2018 at 17:03
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 03 2018 at 17:56
No contest: W&W.
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: October 03 2018 at 18:31
verslibre wrote:
No contest: W&W. |
This---like all of W&W except Own special way ---but I replaced it with Inside and Out---on a play list-- 
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: October 03 2018 at 18:35
Interesting, these are two album I never would have thought to put up against each other. I voted for Three Friends because, mostly the second half, is just really kick butt. W&W is a darn good Genesis album though. I think both tend to be underrated in their respective band's discographies.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 03 2018 at 18:56
YESESIS wrote:
Interesting, these are two album I never would have thought to put up against each other. I voted for Three Friends because, mostly the second half, is just really kick butt. W&W is a darn good Genesis album though. I think both tend to be underrated in their respective band's discographies. |
You took the words right out of my mouth.
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Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: October 03 2018 at 18:59
Three Friends, no contest at all. Not a lot of tracks in Wind and Wuthering really stand out to me, to be honest. I like that they were still going for that prog sound, but the compositions aren't anywhere as well put together as their earlier albums. Blood On The Rooftops is pretty great though.
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: October 03 2018 at 19:13
Musically, Three Friends is spectacular but the theme of the album falls apart pretty quickly. W&W has no unifying theme yet each song holds up beautifully and the entire album works well as a whole. W&W has my vote.
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: October 03 2018 at 21:18
One for the Vine --Blood on the Rooftops ---Unquiet slumbers for the sleepers--In that quiet earth- afterglow-all first rate---11th earl of mar and All in a mouses night are cool too--and it does all come together as a cohesive album---Tony says its his fav ---but he also said that about Duke
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 03 2018 at 21:46
One for the Vine is enough for me to vote for Genesis.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 03 2018 at 22:41
Manuel wrote:
YESESIS wrote:
Interesting, these are two album I never would have thought to put up against each other. I voted for Three Friends because, mostly the second half, is just really kick butt. W&W is a darn good Genesis album though. I think both tend to be underrated in their respective band's discographies. |
You took the words right out of my mouth. |
They both seem a bit on the dense(for lack of a better term) side to me which is why I put them up against each other. Neither seem as accessible as others in their catalog(for GG octopus would be the one more accessible and for Genesis it would be ATOTT). So yeah, I can see how some would think it's an odd pairing but considering my personal history with both it makes sense(at least to me).
Anyway, I voted for W&W.
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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: October 03 2018 at 23:51
Wind and Wuthering - too many musical highlights to ignore. It has a surprisingly coherent feel to it - very atmospheric and autumnal - from the first notes to the final fade out. Great memories from that time. The odd misfire doesn't lessen it, in my view - although now knowing it was Steve Hackett's last studio album, it lends the album a melancholic, end of an era, feel - emphasised so well when Steve played much of it on his previous tour.
I quite like Three Friends. It has grown on my steadily of late. A nice idea to pitch these two under-appreciated albums together in a poll it'll be interesting to see the final voting scores.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 02:09
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 02:11
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 02:49
To me Prologue/Schooldays represents the best qualities of early Gentle Giant. So rich on atmosphere, room or space and a kind of loose playfulness... I don't know exactly - but it seemingly left the band along with Phil Shulman. To me Phil represents the gentle part of the giant and I miss his presence whenever I try to relisten to those later albums (which are still really good). I do like Wind and Wuthering as well and more the last couple of months than ever, but not in the same way.
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 02:59
What can be better than schooldays, saperlipopette !?
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 03:35
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 04:14
Squonk19 wrote:
Wind and Wuthering - too many musical highlights to ignore. It has a surprisingly coherent feel to it - very atmospheric and autumnal - from the first notes to the final fade out. Great memories from that time. The odd misfire doesn't lessen it, in my view - although now knowing it was Steve Hackett's last studio album, it lends the album a melancholic, end of an era, feel - emphasised so well when Steve played much of it on his previous tour.
I quite like Three Friends. It has grown on my steadily of late. A nice idea to pitch these two under-appreciated albums together in a poll it'll be interesting to see the final voting scores. |
Well put. I like both, but I have to give the edge to Genesis. I have listened to Wind and Wuthering far more. I have heard Three Friends for the first time only a few years ago.
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 05:20
Genesis only by a slight margin
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Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 06:10
Oooooo! Tough one. I love both of these. Going with Three Friends because it has touches of musical genius in parts of Peel the Paint and I love the church organ / choral part at the end of the album. Both are excellent albums though.
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 06:13
W&W Still dig 3 Friends, but like Wind & Wuthering more.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 07:55
I like both, but surely my vote must go to Three Friends, which is one of my very favourite Gentle Giant albums and is a unique album in the band's discography and is the one that I've been most likely to recommend to various "Symphonic Prog" listeners who haven't liked other GG. I do like Wind and Wuthering as well, especially for the personally moving "Blood On The Rooftops".
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 10:13
In general, I would go for Genesis, but in this particular matchup, it's Gentle Giant.
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 11:13
Wind and Wuthering .
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 12:01
Genesis......3 Friends is one of my least favorite GG lp's.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 16:29
and my favorite from them.. so an easy vote over any Genesis album other than Duke
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 04 2018 at 16:50
Three Friends quite easily.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 05 2018 at 06:16
hellogoodbye wrote:
What can be better than schooldays, saperlipopette !? | What can I say - Its somehow one of the reasons I always come back to progressive rock.
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Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: October 05 2018 at 08:42
First I wanted voted "both equally", but after slight consideration I gave my vote to W&W. I love Genesis (mostly from Gabriel era) and W&W is somehow the end of one era of their music. After Hackett department it was never the same... Although Three friends are superb!
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: October 05 2018 at 13:42
I like most of W&W
I love all of Three Friends
and there is no Special Way to kill the mood
easy vote for GG
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 05 2018 at 14:35
Wow, this is closer than I thought it would be. Get out the popcorn.
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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: October 05 2018 at 17:21
Wind and Wuthering.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 06 2018 at 00:46
GG
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: October 08 2018 at 19:52
dr wu23 wrote:
Genesis......3 Friends is one of my least favorite GG lp's. | I don't care for GG all around all around all around all around. I used to listen to them a lot. I just can't anymore. And Three Friends is also my least favorite of their discography aside from Giant For a Day. What an interesting contrast, though. If there's one thing W&W allows for in it its songs was space to develop, something that GG never learned.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 08 2018 at 21:38
HackettFan wrote:
If there's one thing W&W allows for in it its songs was space to develop, something that GG never learned. |
no... it is something GG lost when Phil left the group and they became the incarnation of GG you are talking about there which was what I so affectionately call 'mediocre prog'. Prog and complexity for its own sake and forgetting to write decent songs and decent melodies. There are two very distinct styles to this group, you talk of the later but not the earlier 3 albums which had a great deal of atmosphere and time for the music to breath and yes develop.
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Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: October 12 2018 at 06:38
Both. And both have released better albums.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 12 2018 at 07:24
Just to side-track slightly, there was a question on Pointless recently about the Earl of Mar and I knew the answer, thanks to W&W.
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Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: October 12 2018 at 15:16
Too close for me. I got into both groups and both of those albums around the same time, and the bands are equally important to me.
Hey, the two bands even sit next to each other (alphabetically) on the CD shelf. Long live both!
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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: October 12 2018 at 15:27
chopper wrote:
Just to side-track slightly, there was a question on Pointless recently about the Earl of Mar and I knew the answer, thanks to W&W. | Prog music makes you more intelligent - final proof! ...or maybe we are just more intelligent to love this wonderful music genre!
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 12 2018 at 16:52
micky wrote:
HackettFan wrote:
If there's one thing W&W allows for in it its songs was space to develop, something that GG never learned. |
no... it is something GG lost when Phil left the group and they became the incarnation of GG you are talking about there which was what I so affectionately call 'mediocre prog'. Prog and complexity for its own sake and forgetting to write decent songs and decent melodies. There are two very distinct styles to this group, you talk of the later but not the earlier 3 albums which had a great deal of atmosphere and time for the music to breath and yes develop. |
I suspect that the user name itself explains why "Hackettfan" fails to hear early GG's far superior use of space. I like Genesis but there's just no way W&W is anywhere near the magic of... oh I'll just quote myself from the first page instead.
Saperlipopette! wrote:
To me Prologue/Schooldays represents the best qualities of early Gentle Giant. So rich on atmosphere, room or space and a kind of loose playfulness... I don't know exactly - but it seemingly left the band along with Phil Shulman. To me Phil represents the gentle part of the giant and I miss his presence whenever I try to relisten to those later albums (which are still really good). |
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 30 2019 at 00:03
Dellinger wrote:
One for the Vine is enough for me to vote for Genesis. |
Genesis
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 30 2019 at 02:20
Three Friends by a long shot.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 01 2019 at 03:42
W&W by a mile. It has low points, but the highs are sky high, and among the bands best moments.
I never really got into GG.
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 02 2019 at 16:23
GG
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 03 2019 at 00:01
good match up as both are messy albums but with many brilliant moments. I went for Genesis but that could change over time as my appreciation of GG increases.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 07:24
nice poll  bump!
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 11:06
Genesis WW but I like GG a lot also
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 14:15
3 Friends gets my vote. My 18 year old self (circa 1980) would be flabbergasted, but W&W is distinctly patchy, and hasn't aged well. 3 Friends is an album that has really grown on me over the years, and for me has aged rather better. If you skip All In a Mouse's Night, Wot Gorilla and Your Own Special Way from W&W you still have an album with a similar playing time to 3 Friends - if only Genesis had prioritised quality over quantity!
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Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 22:50
I'm a big fan of Wind and Wuthering, but Three Friends is my favorite Gentle Giant album and a top 10 Prog Album.
It was the first GG album I bought, I love every track and Mister Class and Quality? / Three Friends ( I see them as one track as MCAQ? segues into Three Friends) is my all time favorite GG song. In fact, every track on Three Friends is probably in my favorite Dozen songs GG have written.
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Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 23:13
Three Friends is great, but W&W is absolutely incredible. One of my all-time favorite Genesis albums, and one of the best autumn albums ever made. Eleventh Earl of Mar, One for the Vine, Blood on the Rooftops, and Afterglow are worth the price of admission alone 
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Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: February 03 2023 at 18:22
Three Friends for me. That was my first GG album, and probably still my favorite. It was also my first CD, and I was blown away by seeing it available on CD, back when CD's were still new, and the selection was very limited. Until then, it was only popular / modern bands, but seeing that gave me new hope, and I got a CD player immediately.
W&W is good, but not among the stronger Genesis releases. But still with Hackett, and better than the 80s-90s releases.
Regardless, those are my two favorite prog. bands, so great music in both cases!
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