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Topic: Battle of classic rock singers
Posted By: stewe
Subject: Battle of classic rock singers
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 03:12
List of several singers of prog-related, mostly classic/hard rock, AOR bands.


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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 04:55
Familiar with all but Brad Delp (?).
Tough choice, lots of talented singers here - think I’ll vote for Ozzy


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 05:05
Brad Delp - fantastic lead singer for Boston. I would have voted for him but Chris Thompson is on the list.


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 05:09
Chris Thompson for me.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 05:37
i miss the first one.... Roger Daltry

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 06:09
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Brad Delp - fantastic lead singer for Boston. I would have voted for him but Chris Thompson is on the list.
Eek ! Boston. No wonder I don’t know (or care) of him.....
I love Styx, but Boston make me cringe.


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 06:25
Cannot choose, really. David Byron, Ian Guillan, Steve Walsh,  Robert Plant, Ronnie James Dio, etc. All fantastic!!!! I could pick any of them, and later feel bad that I did not choose another.


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 08:11
Robert Plant --then Freddie for sheer originality.


Posted By: DarkTower
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 08:26
Freddie Mercury. Great voice. 


Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 09:15
No Paul Rodgers ???


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 10:20
Freddie


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 10:24
Freddie wins on this list followed by Plant

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 11:01
For me it's hard to separate the singer from the band and their music...so Plant and Zep get my vote.

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 11:28
I was only seventeen, I fell in love with Uriah Heep...


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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 11:42
Freddie->Ozzy->Plant

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 14:25
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:


I was only seventeen, I fell in love with Uriah Heep...
So you wanna be a gypsy ? C’mon now


Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 16:06
Roger Daltrey


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 16:41
Roger Daltry isn't on the list but he should be. Same thing with David Bowie.


Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 16:56
first vote in Denis DeYoung, but.... Plant , Gillan , Byron, Mercury, Delp and Walsh also deserves my aplause !!!


Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 17:19
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Roger Daltry isn't on the list but he should be. Same thing with David Bowie.

Both among my favorite singers.


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 17:29
Also kind of missing Jim Morrison here.

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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 17:50
Mercury, then Plant . . .


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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 17:55
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Also kind of missing Jim Morrison here.

He's one of my favorites, too. I love The Doors, but I even love Jim Morrison more... Such an interesting guy. Responsible for validating my rebelliousness in middle school. Still love him 25 years later and enjoy every new book that comes out.


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 18:42
i feel Roger Daltry was the first full on LEAD vocalist that took charge and become that FRONT figure. Becouse of the nature of the Who, it was a natural cause of action, also hes backround as a rough street smart hard headed youth helped. He was known to be intimidating.

Also Colin Blunstone is a honerable mention

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 19:00
Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

He's one of my favorites, too. I love The Doors, but I even love Jim Morrison more... Such an interesting guy. Responsible for validating my rebelliousness in middle school. Still love him 25 years later and enjoy every new book that comes out.

We loved The Doors in my home.  My older sisters saw them play at The Whiskey and my oldest sister said that Jim Morrison walked up to her and stroked her face.  She came home and rinsed her face and saved the water in a little jar.  I wonder what happened to that jar?  She's been gone a long time now, him even longer.

I also enjoyed his poetry LP (An American Prayer), still have that.

We also all loved Love, sort of friendly rivals on the LA scene at that time.  Arthur Lee gone, too, such a great vocalist as well.


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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 21:20
I'm surprised there's so little love for DIO. I mean, of course this list is full of great singers, and it's really just about impossible to name one better than all the rest. But for me DIO is THE best Metal / Hard Rock singer. I'm going with him, even though I love just about as much Freddy Mercury, Robert Plant, David Byron, And I guess Ian Gillan too. Oh yeah, and I guess Roger Daltrey is indeed missing big time on this poll.


Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: May 05 2019 at 07:23
Another mention for the glaringly missing Daultry.

And Justin Hayward!!!

Thet said, planet earth has only produced one truly perfect set of pipes, and those belonged to one Ronnie James Dio.

Honorable mention to Delp and Walsh.


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: May 05 2019 at 07:38
Justin Hayward...another phenomenal voice!



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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 05 2019 at 07:43
Would have voted for Phil Lynott if he was in the poll - but in his absence I went for Robert Plant. Maybe mostly because I like Led Zeppelin very much.


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: May 05 2019 at 07:59
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I'm surprised there's so little love for DIO. I mean, of course this list is full of great singers, and it's really just about impossible to name one better than all the rest. But for me DIO is THE best Metal / Hard Rock singer. I'm going with him, even though I love just about as much Freddy Mercury, Robert Plant, David Byron, And I guess Ian Gillan too. Oh yeah, and I guess Roger Daltrey is indeed missing big time on this poll.

Esp that Byron had more votes than him until I cast mine for Dio.  That's just mindboggling.  Byron is just a wobbly vibrato version of Gillian.  Dio could do soulful clean vocals and swing to monstrous distortion.  And he did it for so many years with seemingly no change in his voice.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 05 2019 at 08:12
I'm frankly surprised that Dennis DeYoung is in the poll, he's not in the same league as the others. 

I'm kinda "sad" (for lack of a better word) David Coverdale gets so little love around here. (no vote yet). I would have voted for him had Freddie not been in the poll. Oh well...


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 05 2019 at 09:13
i also like Ian Hunter in Mott the Hoople, good front/lead singer

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 05 2019 at 12:31
Any Demetrio Stratos?

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 05 2019 at 13:41
DIO!

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 05 2019 at 13:43
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I'm surprised there's so little love for DIO. I mean, of course this list is full of great singers, and it's really just about impossible to name one better than all the rest. But for me DIO is THE best Metal / Hard Rock singer. I'm going with him, even though I love just about as much Freddy Mercury, Robert Plant, David Byron, And I guess Ian Gillan too. Oh yeah, and I guess Roger Daltrey is indeed missing big time on this poll.
 

You got that right! As soon as I saw his name (much to my surprise in this poll), that's where my vote went.

There are many fine if not extraordinary singers in this poll. But if Dio were not in the poll, I likely would vote for Steve Walsh, whose singing on those '70s Kansas albums is legendary.



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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 05 2019 at 14:50
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Any Demetrio Stratos?

This seems to be a list of those who aren't explicitly prog. Jon Anderson, Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel aren't even on the list and they are both either classic rock or pop rock.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 05 2019 at 14:54
Anyway, I almost voted for Robert Plant but voted for Freddie Mercury instead. Mainstream hype aside there's no one who could sing like him. 

As for the list well if you have Dio on the list you also have to have Rob Halford but for some reason he's not on here. No Bruce Dickinson either come to think of it. 


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 05 2019 at 15:07
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

As for the list well if you have Dio on the list you also have to have Rob Halford but for some reason he's not on here. No Bruce Dickinson either come to think of it. 
 

They're not recognized as anything apart from metal vocalists." Dio's career is more varied; he was a founding member of Elf, the band that led to Ritchie forming Rainbow after leaving Purple — the first album is Elf + Blackmore as the guitarist.


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 05 2019 at 15:33
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

As for the list well if you have Dio on the list you also have to have Rob Halford but for some reason he's not on here. No Bruce Dickinson either come to think of it. 
 

They're not recognized as anything apart from metal vocalists." Dio's career is more varied; he was a founding member of Elf, the band that led to Ritchie forming Rainbow after leaving Purple — the first album is Elf + Blackmore as the guitarist.

Dio(the singer) was only hard rock and metal also though. JP started out as heavy blues rock/hard rock. 


Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: May 05 2019 at 19:36
I meant to choose those singers who got in their prime in early/mid 70s and are not associated purely with progressive rock (e.g. J.Anderson, Gabriel, Lake...), but rather with 70s hard rock or AOR. Glad to see some appreciation for David Byron.

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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: May 06 2019 at 00:03
Plant, but Mercury and Dio were amazing as well.

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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: May 06 2019 at 00:44
All are legends, but a plus on Ronnie James Dio for me


Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: May 06 2019 at 01:18
Could have voted for Ian Gillan, but gave it to Robert Plant for his unique style. I've never been able to get into Freddie Mercury. Great film though.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 06 2019 at 11:07
Plant

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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: May 06 2019 at 11:14
My favorite out of all those is definitely Dio.


Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: May 06 2019 at 11:54
From this list Freddy but no Roger Daltry? 


Posted By: Walkscore
Date Posted: May 06 2019 at 21:13
why no women singers?


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: May 06 2019 at 21:22
Originally posted by Walkscore Walkscore wrote:

why no women singers?
Really great point...there have been a few, but not as many as male, in the "Classic," oeuvre.  Janis Joplin and Grace Slick come to mind immediately, and there were some wonderful female prog and related singers, such as Annie Haslam, Jacquie McShee and I'm sure some more, although they are the first that come to mind for me.

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 06 2019 at 21:24
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I'm surprised there's so little love for DIO. I mean, of course this list is full of great singers, and it's really just about impossible to name one better than all the rest. But for me DIO is THE best Metal / Hard Rock singer. I'm going with him, even though I love just about as much Freddy Mercury, Robert Plant, David Byron, And I guess Ian Gillan too. Oh yeah, and I guess Roger Daltrey is indeed missing big time on this poll.


OK, now it's much better. Still not winning, but being just below Robert Plant and Freddy Mercury is just what one might expect.


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 06 2019 at 22:26
David Byron is pretty impressive. I’ll take The Magician’s Birthday over ANY Queen album for sure.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 01:23
Had to go Freddie, he could simply sing anything perfectly. Plant is excellent but not as high on my list as most put him.
Dio is brilliant but I struggle him being in this group of "classic rock" vocalists, heavy metal he is king! As far as female vocalists in the classic rock category.......Ann Wilson wins hands down every day and twice on Sunday.


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 13:39
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

As far as female vocalists in the classic rock category.......Ann Wilson wins hands down every day and twice on Sunday.
 

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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 14:31
Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Freddie wins on this list followed by Plant

Or Plant followed by Freddie! TongueWink


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 14:42
Ann Wilson.


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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 17:06
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Had to go Freddie, he could simply sing anything perfectly. Plant is excellent but not as high on my list as most put him.
Dio is brilliant but I struggle him being in this group of "classic rock" vocalists, heavy metal he is king! As far as female vocalists in the classic rock category.......Ann Wilson wins hands down every day and twice on Sunday.


I'm afraid I don't know Ann Wilson, but how about Janis Joplin? There is pure raw power... perhaps even over Peter Hamill and Dio.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 18:19
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I'll go with Sandy.

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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: May 08 2019 at 01:05
Freddie 

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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: May 08 2019 at 09:24
Originally posted by Walkscore Walkscore wrote:

why no women singers?

Because mostly the great female singers haven't been in great or even noteworthy bands, except Grace Slick who isn't all that great anyway imo.  I mean, on similar lines, you see no Paul Rodgers or Joe Lynn Turner in this list either nor John Farnham.  All great singers.  If it was truly about lining up the best singers from the classic rock era, at least Ann Wilson would have been a shoo in in the list. But it seems to be more of a poll of the singers who were in great classic rock bands.


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: May 08 2019 at 09:38
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Had to go Freddie, he could simply sing anything perfectly. Plant is excellent but not as high on my list as most put him.
Dio is brilliant but I struggle him being in this group of "classic rock" vocalists, heavy metal he is king! As far as female vocalists in the classic rock category.......Ann Wilson wins hands down every day and twice on Sunday.


I'm afraid I don't know Ann Wilson, but how about Janis Joplin? There is pure raw power... perhaps even over Peter Hamill and Dio.

Disagree that Joplin had more power than Dio. She did sound raw as hell, yes, but Dio could also do more hardcore distortion (After All, for instance, or even Master of Insanity). He just did it a lot more fluently and effortlessly.  Of course, if you compare the exact same fifth octave pitches, she is going to sound stronger but that's because she's a mezzo/soprano.  On similar lines, Annie Haslam's B5 on Prologue is a lot bigger than Joplin's.  Just doesn't sound as aggressive but that's texture and different from power.   The singers I thought could match or approach Dio's power were/are Ray Gillen, Russell Allen and Bruce Dickinson.  Zach Stevens was also great.

Ann Wilson is an incredible singer.  I would say Barracuda or Mistral are great showcases of her upper range.  But she has a 'small'/thin voice so not someone you necessarily think of in terms of power. 




Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 08 2019 at 11:46
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Had to go Freddie, he could simply sing anything perfectly. Plant is excellent but not as high on my list as most put him.
Dio is brilliant but I struggle him being in this group of "classic rock" vocalists, heavy metal he is king! As far as female vocalists in the classic rock category.......Ann Wilson wins hands down every day and twice on Sunday.


I'm afraid I don't know Ann Wilson, but how about Janis Joplin? There is pure raw power... perhaps even over Peter Hamill and Dio.

Ann and Nancy Wilson, sisters who created the hard rock band Heart. I would never consider Peter Hammill in this list, first off VdGG is not "classic rock" nor do I feel he is a powerful singer like most in the list by the OP.

Dio had a more powerful voice than Janis, but I really do not want to compare male and female singers. Janis was raw, but IMHO did not have that sensitivity like Ann Wilson or Grace Slick. Pat Benatar has a voice that could do what Janis did but also had some of what Ann Wilson could do with say power ballads.



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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 09 2019 at 05:26
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

No Paul Rodgers ???
 
Exactly, I would have voted for him. In his absence, I voted for Percy.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 09 2019 at 13:04
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Had to go Freddie, he could simply sing anything perfectly. Plant is excellent but not as high on my list as most put him.
Dio is brilliant but I struggle him being in this group of "classic rock" vocalists, heavy metal he is king! As far as female vocalists in the classic rock category.......Ann Wilson wins hands down every day and twice on Sunday.


I'm afraid I don't know Ann Wilson, but how about Janis Joplin? There is pure raw power... perhaps even over Peter Hamill and Dio.
 

Janis was not in Dio's league. You'd have to look to Ann Wilson and Jenny Haan for that kind of power.


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 09 2019 at 13:05
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Dio had a more powerful voice than Janis, but I really do not want to compare male and female singers. Janis was raw, but IMHO did not have that sensitivity like Ann Wilson or Grace Slick. Pat Benatar has a voice that could do what Janis did but also had some of what Ann Wilson could do with say power ballads.
 

Ever listen to Lee Aaron? Early albums are good if formulaic metal. But she's also blessed with great pipes, among other things.


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 10 2019 at 12:23
Plant, runner up Burton Cummings


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: May 10 2019 at 12:27
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Plant, runner up Burton Cummings
Burton Cummings, an excellent choice.  Fine vocalist and multi-instrumentalist.

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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: May 10 2019 at 15:27
For crying out loud, folks, where is Glenn Hughes? He's at the very least on the same level of most of the singers listed above, and in many cases a few cuts above. Ozzy is an icon, but I think very few people would call him a great vocalist - unlike all the other guys who sang for Black Sabbath, including Tony Martin, whose voice is also quite remarkable.


Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: May 11 2019 at 01:14
A vote for Steve Walsh if you ever got to see Kansas when Steve walsh's voice was at its best  ... The guys a rock God with Keyboard Headstands.  I thought it was nice Brad Delp got in the poll he had a fantastic voice .


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: May 11 2019 at 02:43
I went with Ian Gillian, mostly out of respect for his vocals on "Jesus Christ, Superstar" which were amazing! 

However, I easily could have voted for Dio as well, and nearly all of these were amazing selections.  

Poor Brad Delp of Boston had a very sad and bizarre ending, RIP!  

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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: May 13 2019 at 01:05
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

For crying out loud, folks, where is Glenn Hughes? He's at the very least on the same level of most of the singers listed above, and in many cases a few cuts above. Ozzy is an icon, but I think very few people would call him a great vocalist - unlike all the other guys who sang for Black Sabbath, including Tony Martin, whose voice is also quite remarkable.

Gee, you're starting to make me think there are better classic rock singers out there than prog rock singers.


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: May 13 2019 at 04:42
Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

For crying out loud, folks, where is Glenn Hughes? He's at the very least on the same level of most of the singers listed above, and in many cases a few cuts above. Ozzy is an icon, but I think very few people would call him a great vocalist - unlike all the other guys who sang for Black Sabbath, including Tony Martin, whose voice is also quite remarkable.


Gee, you're starting to make me think there are better classic rock singers out there than prog rock singers.

There are plenty of amazing singers in straight up rock/metal. Just a larger sample size compared to prog. Also, prog doesn't necessarily require the singer to have a great tone as the music has an instrumental bias. I would compare Lake, Haslam and Hammill to the great rock singers and not a lot many others.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 13 2019 at 21:10
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

For crying out loud, folks, where is Glenn Hughes? He's at the very least on the same level of most of the singers listed above, and in many cases a few cuts above. Ozzy is an icon, but I think very few people would call him a great vocalist - unlike all the other guys who sang for Black Sabbath, including Tony Martin, whose voice is also quite remarkable.


Gee, you're starting to make me think there are better classic rock singers out there than prog rock singers.

There are plenty of amazing singers in straight up rock/metal. Just a larger sample size compared to prog. Also, prog doesn't necessarily require the singer to have a great tone as the music has an instrumental bias. I would compare Lake, Haslam and Hammill to the great rock singers and not a lot many others.


For me, Jon Anderson too, and some of the italian ones, with Francesco Di Giacommo leading.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 14 2019 at 23:54
Originally posted by Enchant X Enchant X wrote:

A vote for Steve Walsh if you ever got to see Kansas when Steve walsh's voice was at its best  ... The guys a rock God with Keyboard Headstands.  I thought it was nice Brad Delp got in the poll he had a fantastic voice .
 

I saw Kansas around about 2002 .Although they were past their best it's still one of the best live gigs I've ever been to. Walsh was fantastic (much bowing and 'we are not worthy' from the audience!) 


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 14 2019 at 23:56
amazing to see no votes for Coverdale. Shows what a great list it is.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 15 2019 at 01:19
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

amazing to see no votes for Coverdale. Shows what a great list it is.

I'm surprised,too. 
I'm also surprised the guy from Styx got 2 votes. Possibly someone is trolling LOL



Posted By: socrates17
Date Posted: May 28 2019 at 08:12
Taking this as restricted to male rock singers, none of the above.  Steve Marriott is #1, followed by Gary Brooker, Roger Daltry, Roger Chapman, Alice Cooper, Keith Relf, Chris Youlden, Mike Patto, Alex Harvey & John Kay. 


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 28 2019 at 12:45
I'm surprised Daltry and Marriott weren't on the list.......I also love Youlden....those early Savoy Brown lp's are great...especially Raw Sienna. The others are good also but ............

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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 28 2019 at 18:25
The best and most interesting rock vocalists aren't necessarily the high-pitched "screamers". I find singers like John Lennon, David Bowie or Nick Cave much more interesting than people like f.e. Robert Plant. Not to say that I don't enjoy Led Zeppelin, but the vocals are not the main attraction for me.


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 28 2019 at 18:44
That said, from the list I really enjoy Ian Gillan and Freddie Mercury.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 29 2019 at 04:13
Farrokh Bulsara > Robert Plant >= Chris Thompson

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 29 2019 at 11:24
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

For crying out loud, folks, where is Glenn Hughes? He's at the very least on the same level of most of the singers listed above, and in many cases a few cuts above. Ozzy is an icon, but I think very few people would call him a great vocalist - unlike all the other guys who sang for Black Sabbath, including Tony Martin, whose voice is also quite remarkable.
 

Ozzy is the original, but I concur he is easily the worst of Sabbath's singers. Every guy after him was superior, with Ronnie being the best and Glenn a tiptoe behind him.


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 29 2019 at 11:26
Originally posted by Enchant X Enchant X wrote:

A vote for Steve Walsh if you ever got to see Kansas when Steve walsh's voice was at its best  ... The guys a rock God with Keyboard Headstands.  I thought it was nice Brad Delp got in the poll he had a fantastic voice .
 

Steve at his prime was a force with few peers. If only someone had cooked up a rock opera "starring" Ronnie Dio, Glenn Hughes and Steve Walsh...!


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 29 2019 at 11:27
Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

For crying out loud, folks, where is Glenn Hughes? He's at the very least on the same level of most of the singers listed above, and in many cases a few cuts above. Ozzy is an icon, but I think very few people would call him a great vocalist - unlike all the other guys who sang for Black Sabbath, including Tony Martin, whose voice is also quite remarkable.

Gee, you're starting to make me think there are better classic rock singers out there than prog rock singers.
 

If we're to be honest, it's safe to say classic rock/metal's got the best singers. 


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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 29 2019 at 21:20
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

For crying out loud, folks, where is Glenn Hughes? He's at the very least on the same level of most of the singers listed above, and in many cases a few cuts above. Ozzy is an icon, but I think very few people would call him a great vocalist - unlike all the other guys who sang for Black Sabbath, including Tony Martin, whose voice is also quite remarkable.


Gee, you're starting to make me think there are better classic rock singers out there than prog rock singers.
 

If we're to be honest, it's safe to say classic rock/metal's got the best singers. 


Yet, my very favourite 3 singers are Jon Anderson, Annie Haslam, and Francesco Di Diacommo.


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: May 30 2019 at 07:58
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

For crying out loud, folks, where is Glenn Hughes? He's at the very least on the same level of most of the singers listed above, and in many cases a few cuts above. Ozzy is an icon, but I think very few people would call him a great vocalist - unlike all the other guys who sang for Black Sabbath, including Tony Martin, whose voice is also quite remarkable.

Gee, you're starting to make me think there are better classic rock singers out there than prog rock singers.
 

If we're to be honest, it's safe to say classic rock/metal's got the best singers. 

On a genre level, yes.  I would say more so metal than classic rock.  I mean Dio, Halford, Bruce, Tony Martin, Zach Stevens, Russell Allen, Daniel Gildenlow, you can go on and on and on.  Metal by its nature requires lot of power and the range to sing, in fact belt out consistently in the high fourth octave/fifth octave so it attracts singers with a high level of skill at minimum.  

But on an individual basis, I have found my favourite singers come from all over the spectrum.  Dio from metal, Freddie from classic rock, Annie Haslam from prog, Jeff Buckley from I don't know alternative rock, Stevie Wonder from R&B.  If I had to generalise, I would say what great singers do is to not just sing all the notes correctly but make their choices/decisions very essential to the song such that singing it differently somehow seems to detract from the essence of the song.  


Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: May 30 2019 at 09:30
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

For crying out loud, folks, where is Glenn Hughes? He's at the very least on the same level of most of the singers listed above, and in many cases a few cuts above. Ozzy is an icon, but I think very few people would call him a great vocalist - unlike all the other guys who sang for Black Sabbath, including Tony Martin, whose voice is also quite remarkable.
 

Ozzy is the original, but I concur he is easily the worst of Sabbath's singers. Every guy after him was superior, with Ronnie being the best and Glenn a tiptoe behind him.

Yes, RJD is #1 and Ozzy # last.

But I find Hughes well behind RJD.  He's got a good set of pipes no doubt, but I hear a hint of cheese in his delivery... sometimes I feel like I should be listening to Foreigner when I hear him.  While Ronnie is clearly the #1 Sabbath singer, I easily and by a long shot ahead of#3 insert Tony Martin at #2.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 30 2019 at 12:18
Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

For crying out loud, folks, where is Glenn Hughes? He's at the very least on the same level of most of the singers listed above, and in many cases a few cuts above. Ozzy is an icon, but I think very few people would call him a great vocalist - unlike all the other guys who sang for Black Sabbath, including Tony Martin, whose voice is also quite remarkable.
 

Ozzy is the original, but I concur he is easily the worst of Sabbath's singers. Every guy after him was superior, with Ronnie being the best and Glenn a tiptoe behind him.

Yes, RJD is #1 and Ozzy # last.

But I find Hughes well behind RJD.  He's got a good set of pipes no doubt, but I hear a hint of cheese in his delivery... sometimes I feel like I should be listening to Foreigner when I hear him.  While Ronnie is clearly the #1 Sabbath singer, I easily and by a long shot ahead of#3 insert Tony Martin at #2.
 

Glenn's rather versatile. IMO, he sang circles around Coverdale when they were in Purple together. It's more of a style thing, though. Glenn's equally at home in hard rock, AOR or metal. Funny you mention Foreigner...another of my favorite singers is Lou Gramm!


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 30 2019 at 12:34
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

If we're to be honest, it's safe to say classic rock/metal's got the best singers. 

On a genre level, yes.  I would say more so metal than classic rock.  I mean Dio, Halford, Bruce, Tony Martin, Zach Stevens, Russell Allen, Daniel Gildenlow, you can go on and on and on.
 

Don't mind me, I'm just generalizing. I also love the vocals of Phil Lynott, Tony Carey, John Wetton and Dug Pinnick. It's not always about sounding like an air raid siren. Nice to see you mention Zack. Jon Oliva was amazing, then Zack took over and they did the smart thing by not bringing in a soundalike. 

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Metal by its nature requires lot of power and the range to sing, in fact belt out consistently in the high fourth octave/fifth octave so it attracts singers with a high level of skill at minimum.

Unfortunately, a lot of those guys end up totaling their voices doing that. Like Jon. Dio warned him about it, too. Some guys keep sounding great, some end up doing just barely, like Geoff Tate. Sammy Hagar must be lying about his age because he sounds incredible at 71. 


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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: June 01 2019 at 00:49
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Unfortunately, a lot of those guys end up totaling their voices doing that. Like Jon. Dio warned him about it, too. Some guys keep sounding great, some end up doing just barely, like Geoff Tate. Sammy Hagar must be lying about his age because he sounds incredible at 71. 

I have not followed Jon's graph over the years but regarding Tate, it's possibly lifestyle issues that hurt his voice more than technique (which I felt was impeccable).  Both he and Halford did drugs, smoking etc from what I have heard and that cannot be good for the voice.  Dio swore off anything that could hurt his voice and he was still belting out those high Cs until the point where cancer incapacitated him.   Don't know much about Sammy Hagar but Russell Allen too has taken good care of his voice and has it intact.  While Klaus Meine has aged, when I saw him in 2007, he was certainly in good voice for a man of his age.  And that was with all the running around that should ordinarily have messed up his breath.


Posted By: socrates17
Date Posted: June 01 2019 at 12:39
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

The best and most interesting rock vocalists aren't necessarily the high-pitched "screamers". I find singers like John Lennon, David Bowie or Nick Cave much more interesting than people like f.e. Robert Plant. Not to say that I don't enjoy Led Zeppelin, but the vocals are not the main attraction for me.

Yes.  I should have mentioned Nick Cave in my earlier comment.


Posted By: ProfPanglos
Date Posted: June 01 2019 at 17:09
My favorites on this poll are Ian Gillan and Dio.

Maybe not "classic rock" per se, but over the course of the decades, I'd say Peter Gabriel solo ("Security" and "So" are classic enough by now) is a worthy inclusion too.  I didn't see his name mentioned yet, but maybe I missed it.  Lamb Lies Down, etc.  Pretty great vocals on his stuff.

Also, in his prime ('68-'77?), Ian Anderson had a powerful, distinctive, well-pitched voice.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 01 2019 at 17:14
an honerabld mentkon to Eric Stewart of 10cc a terrific and powerful voice along side Kevin Godley had the best voices in 10cc

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Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: June 03 2019 at 15:26
Keith Moon, are you there?



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