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Topic: World War III (three)
Posted By: Vompatti
Subject: World War III (three)
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 08:06
Bonus points for also correctly guessing the month.



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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 08:14
I'm guessing Zimbabwe, in October.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 09:09
No vote, for I should do some exercises in remote viewing first. But surely there are some possible scenarios: the NATO scratching on Russia's borders, the unguided projectile that is Kimmie, and last but not least the Ottomaniac who wants to have that empire restored in 2023.

But before WWIII, I think there will be one or more civil wars in EU countries. Most likely in Germany, France or maybe even Sweden. I guess the kickoff will take place in April 2020.


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 11:19
The Moon....
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 11:43
Who has the Infinity Gauntlet?

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 12:06
Some claim WW3 has already begun but it's a spiritual war, not the classic earth bound variety. Can't argue that they are wrong.

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 07:40
on www

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 08:31
^Spot on!

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Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 15:33
Somewhere in the South China Sea in June 2025

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 21:43
Mongolia
April
Three people try to eat the same sandwich 



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 21:48
LOL




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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 07 2019 at 22:08
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Mongolia
April
Three people try to eat the same sandwich 


While throat singing? LOL


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 08 2019 at 03:55
While WW3 is not inevitable, it's worth remembering that some of the safeguards that were in place throughout the cold war are no longer there, making it arguably more likely now than it was then.

I suspect if it does happen, it will either be in the Middle East between a US backed Sunni Muslim proxy, and a Russian backed Shia Muslim proxy, over oil and strategic regional advantage, OR it will be in a former Soviet state, on the back of some western funded uprising to oust some Moscow friendly regime that was elected to power on the back of national discontent. If that state happens to be a NATO member (Latvia for example) then the outcome could be catastrophic.

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 08 2019 at 09:01
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

While WW3 is not inevitable, it's worth remembering that some of the safeguards that were in place throughout the cold war are no longer there, making it arguably more likely now than it was then.

I suspect if it does happen, it will either be in the Middle East between a US backed Sunni Muslim proxy, and a Russian backed Shia Muslim proxy, over oil and strategic regional advantage, OR it will be in a former Soviet state, on the back of some western funded uprising to oust some Moscow friendly regime that was elected to power on the back of national discontent. If that state happens to be a NATO member (Latvia for example) then the outcome could be catastrophic.
 
Sensible words, AndyClap
 
I actually never believed that WW3 would be an East-West thing , even at the worst times of the cold war.
 
I always suspected that it would be either a North-South issue (immigration) or more precisely a christian-muslim thing, and it remains definitely a probability, today.
But the spark could be even only between muslim realms (shia-suni, as you say), but also resource-driven (and that includes water as a prime resource, probably more than petrol - see below on that)...
 
But indeed it could be about Antarctica, which is really the key piece in the survival of the planet... If the Chinese (for ex) move in without the consent of others (UN for ex), how do you get them out of there, without starting a WW??  Confused
 
But another problem is the Chinese ambitions in its direct proximity, like Chaser is implying, whether over the Spratley Islands and/or Taiwan.
 
 
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One example in the middle-east could be that Turkey is building dams in their own pierce of Kurdistan (which is to be the water fortress in the whole area, like the Golan is for Israel)over the Euphrates and Tigris rivers and totally drying up Syria and Iraq. This would of course create maxi-tensions and get most outsiders to root for a bigger and independent Kurdistan that spreads over the four countries concerned (Turkey, Syria, Iraq & Iran).
 
One of the things that the arsehole Erdogan did to become really popular over the last decade is build enormous infrastructure towards its eastern front, creating roads for the locals (houra) but more specifically to move troops  and materials (kay) in there should there be a need in controlling things in a very tough terrain.


Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: May 10 2019 at 09:28
Nature vs Humanity. Everywhere .

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: May 10 2019 at 11:06
Originally posted by 2dogs 2dogs wrote:

Nature vs Humanity. Everywhere .
Nature has already lost. Humans are too resilient compared to all other species.


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: May 10 2019 at 15:18
To quote Albert Einstein: "I don't know what weapons WW3 will be fought with, but I know what weapons WW4 will be fought with: Sticks and Stones".


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Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: May 10 2019 at 15:36
are you talking about a computer game, or what?



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 11 2019 at 03:51
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

While WW3 is not inevitable, it's worth remembering that some of the safeguards that were in place throughout the cold war are no longer there, making it arguably more likely now than it was then.

I suspect if it does happen, it will either be in the Middle East between a US backed Sunni Muslim proxy, and a Russian backed Shia Muslim proxy, over oil and strategic regional advantage, OR it will be in a former Soviet state, on the back of some western funded uprising to oust some Moscow friendly regime that was elected to power on the back of national discontent. If that state happens to be a NATO member (Latvia for example) then the outcome could be catastrophic.

 
Sensible words, AndyClap
 
I actually never believed that WW3 would be an East-West thing , even at the worst times of the cold war.
 
I always suspected that it would be either a North-South issue (immigration) or more precisely a christian-muslim thing, and it remains definitely a probability, today.
But the spark could be even only between muslim realms (shia-suni, as you say), but also resource-driven (and that includes water as a prime resource, probably more than petrol - see below on that)...
 
But indeed it could be about Antarctica, which is really the key piece in the survival of the planet... If the Chinese (for ex) move in without the consent of others (UN for ex), how do you get them out of there, without starting a WW??  Confused
 
But another problem is the Chinese ambitions in its direct proximity, like Chaser is implying, whether over the Spratley Islands and/or Taiwan.
 
 
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One example in the middle-east could be that Turkey is building dams in their own pierce of Kurdistan (which is to be the water fortress in the whole area, like the Golan is for Israel)over the Euphrates and Tigris rivers and totally drying up Syria and Iraq. This would of course create maxi-tensions and get most outsiders to root for a bigger and independent Kurdistan that spreads over the four countries concerned (Turkey, Syria, Iraq & Iran).
 
One of the things that the arsehole Erdogan did to become really popular over the last decade is build enormous infrastructure towards its eastern front, creating roads for the locals (houra) but more specifically to move troops  and materials (kay) in there should there be a need in controlling things in a very tough terrain.


Yeah, Turkey is a concern. It's a NATO member that doesn't see eye to eye with the west in a number of areas, and also has a fractious relationship with Russia.

Going back to the cold war, Turkey was one of the barganing chips which resolved the Cuban missile crisis. Kennedy struck a 'behind the scenes' deal with Kruschev not to place tactical nuclear weapons on Turkish soil (IIRC) Additionally, after the collapse of the USSR, Bush snr, promised Gorbachev that there would be no eastward expansion of NATO up to Russian borders. NATO broke their promise and now a number of former Soviet/Warsaw Pact states are NATO members. It's no wonder Russia is a little jumpy, and has responded with increased military spending on its strategic nuclear arsenal. This is where the cold war safe guards are gone. Neither side really buys into the MAD doctrine, which effectively made fighting a nuclear war intentionaly, arguably impossible. Now, both sides believe they could potentially win such a war with their superior nuclear techology, which means an intentional conflict is more likely, and an accidental conflict probably less likely. Either way, it's a dangerous situation.

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 11 2019 at 10:55
Hi,

I hate this one ... sad as it may be.

It would have to happen in a place where the significance of its existence is the most important part of it, and that could be, natural resources, or simply, the history.

Right now, I think there is only one place for this, but I am hopeful that both religions come to the table together and stop all this atrocity, including the fundamentalism interpreting something completely out of context with the whole thing.

In an over populated world, I'm not sure that there is a proper answer to this poll or question, as there are too many choices and opportunities, but I got to tell you ... I really do not want to see another Guernica outside my window ... and that is EXACTLY what we are asking for, otherwise!


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 13 2019 at 02:23
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

I hate this one ... sad as it may be.

It would have to happen in a place where the significance of its existence is the most important part of it, and that could be, natural resources, or simply, the history.

Right now, I think there is only one place for this, but I am hopeful that both religions come to the table together and stop all this atrocity, including the fundamentalism interpreting something completely out of context with the whole thing.

In an over populated world, I'm not sure that there is a proper answer to this poll or question, as there are too many choices and opportunities, but I got to tell you ... I really do not want to see another Guernica outside my window ... and that is EXACTLY what we are asking for, otherwise!


The religious aspect is a layer of complication, which I think may be irreconcilable. I think religious and cultural difference may be a catalyst in a global conflict, but I don't think will be the root cause.

Religious fundamentalism is also a blurred grey area. Different commentators have different ideas around what constitutes fundamentalism, and the line at which conservative religious views, turn into extremist views. Moral relativism comes into play. For instance, in Islam homsosexuality is regarded as an abomination and is forbidden. By western standards that's an extremist view, but in Islam it's a mainstream view, even if the vast majority of Muslims probably wouldn't wish actual harm on a gay man (although there's no scientifc way of validating that assumption) It's the same throughout all Abrahamic religions. Religion is underpinned by a need to control the flock.

In any case, we have seen how factions within Islam are played off against each other by US and Russian proxies, and the Middle East is arguably the most likely powder keg for a third world war, with a former Soviet state being in very close second place. I imagine Russia would be less likely to to want the immediate action on its own doorstep.

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Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: May 13 2019 at 02:52
I don't see religion as a likely cause of a world war. A regional war, yes, but the most countries in the world (USA, China, Europe) are not sufficiently fundamentalist to start a world war purely over religion.

For me "religious extremism" is the point at which you no longer tolerate any view that differs to your own, and you believe that those with alternative views should be eliminated.

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 13 2019 at 04:17
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
I hate this one ... sad as it may be.
 
It would have to happen in a place where the significance of its existence is the most important part of it, and that could be, natural resources, or simply, the history.
 
Right now, I think there is only one place for this, but I am hopeful that both religions come to the table together and stop all this atrocity, including the fundamentalism interpreting something completely out of context with the whole thing.
 
In an over populated world, I'm not sure that there is a proper answer to this poll or question, as there are too many choices and opportunities, but I got to tell you ... I really do not want to see another Guernica outside my window ... and that is EXACTLY what we are asking for, otherwise!


The religious aspect is a layer of complication, which I think may be irreconcilable. I think religious and cultural difference may be a catalyst in a global conflict, but I don't think will be the root cause.

Religious fundamentalism is also a blurred grey area. Different commentators have different ideas around what constitutes fundamentalism, and the line at which conservative religious views, turn into extremist views. Moral relativism comes into play. For instance, in Islam homsosexuality is regarded as an abomination and is forbidden. By western standards that's an extremist view, but in Islam it's a mainstream view, even if the vast majority of Muslims probably wouldn't wish actual harm on a gay man (although there's no scientifc way of validating that assumption) It's the same throughout all Abrahamic religions. Religion is underpinned by a need to control the flock.

In any case, we have seen how factions within Islam are played off against each other by US and Russian proxies, and the Middle East is arguably the most likely powder keg for a third world war, with a former Soviet state being in very close second place. I imagine Russia would be less likely to to want the immediate action on its own doorstep.
 
I don't see religion as being the first cause for WW3, though it will definitely be sparking it, in case it's in the Middle-East or Africa...
 
However if it would start in the Far East (Spratley Islands), I can't see this developing into a global war... whatever China will do will probably remain at the economic sanction levels, and certainly not be religion-related (unless the Moro of Philippines, Brunei and other start to act up their muslim faith against the theoretically religion-less Chinese or Vietnamese regimes. Though the Rohingas problem in Burma could spark some reactions. Also never underestimate that Indonesia is the biggest muslim country in the world and Malaysia is a muslim-predominant country as well.  
 
BTW, about homos, right now, in those parts of the planet cited above, they're mostly content of driving their homos into exiles (into the west), but I suspect that's only for the males, because most likely they will force the would-be lesbians into strong and strenuous maternity planning.  
 
 
 


Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: May 13 2019 at 10:23
In the future

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 13 2019 at 16:33
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

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However if it would start in the Far East (Spratley Islands), I can't see this developing into a global war... whatever China will do will probably remain at the economic sanction levels, and certainly not be religion-related (unless the Moro of Philippines, Brunei and other start to act up their Muslim faith against the theoretically religion-less Chinese or Vietnamese regimes. 
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My thoughts are that if China starts and promotes any of these conflicts, it will cause the end of China as we know it, and it will be broken into 5 or 6 separate countries .... 

I'm not sure that any country these days, can support a major conflict and continue its day to day affairs ... only the smaller countries, that might have less to lose will do this .... but I think that America and Russia understand this, specially as Russia has already been broken up for spreading itself to thin, and way too much corruption all around. This is my guess ... I won't try to even consider an outline for it all ... it's impossible!


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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: May 17 2019 at 10:34
halfchan /pol/ predicts Israel false flag tomorrow


Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: May 20 2019 at 09:06
Brexit not on the list Tongue Wink

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Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: May 20 2019 at 09:07
many believe it will start Cyber not by actual weapons Shocked

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 13 2019 at 02:56
Originally posted by PROGMAN PROGMAN wrote:

many believe it will start Cyber not by actual weapons Shocked


A cyber attack is arguably an act of war. The UN may now even document it as such, although I suspect there are constant 'small' cyber attacks being carried out all the time, by all nations capable of doing it!

I still think the most likely flashpoint will be the Middle East, probably Iran.



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