Print Page | Close Window

Make your own Rush album!

Printed From: Progarchives.com
Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Top 10s and lists
Forum Description: List all your favourites here
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=120247
Printed Date: May 06 2025 at 20:36
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com


Topic: Make your own Rush album!
Posted By: Argo2112
Subject: Make your own Rush album!
Date Posted: June 06 2019 at 08:47
We did this with Genesis, Lets try it with Rush. 
 You get to pick 8 Rush tracks to go on your own compilation album. The one rule is you can only use one track form each existing album. Pick for any 8 albums you like. Don't worry about song length, just pick 8 songs. 

 Something Like this: 

1. Fly By Night
2. 2112 (Overture/ temples of Syrinx) 
3. La Villa Strangiato
4. Freewill
5. The Camera Eye
6. Analog Kid
7. The Enemy Within
8. Middletown Dreams






Replies:
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 06 2019 at 08:52
This selection fits quite well in an almost chronological order:

By-Tor and the Snow Dog (live version)
Xanadu
Circumstances
Jacob's Ladder
Witch Hunt
Second Nature
Halo Effect
Losing It



-------------


Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: June 06 2019 at 10:53
^ Some nice deeper cuts on your list. 


Posted By: Foxprog
Date Posted: June 06 2019 at 11:22
Working Man
2112
Xanadu
La villa strangiato
Jacob's Ladder
YYZ
The necromancer?


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 06 2019 at 12:29
1. Chemistry
2. Driven (live from Different Stages)
3. Different Strings

Fear
4. Part I: The Enemy Within
5. Part II: The Weapon
6. Part III: Witch Hunt
7. Part IV: Freeze

8. Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres


-------------
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay


Posted By: TenYearsAfter
Date Posted: June 06 2019 at 14:28
Tears (Mellotron!)
2112 (All The World's A Stage)
Xanadu
La Villa Strangiato
The Spirit Of The Radio
YYZ
Jacob's Ladder (Exit Stage Left)
Subdivisions



Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 06 2019 at 14:55
My list will consist mostly of their first two decades since I'm not as familiar with the later stuff.

Roll the Bones (the only post 80's on this list)
Camera Eye
La Villa Strangiato
The Necromancer
In the End
Turn the Page
A Farewell to Kings
Natural Science




Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 06 2019 at 15:30
1. Broon's Bane/The Trees/Xanadu medley on Exit Stage Left
2. Working Man
3. Fly By Night
4. Freewill (or Spirit of Radio or Different Strings)
5. Tom Sawyer (or Vital Signs or Limelight or Red Barchetta)
6. Subdivisions (or The Weapon)
7. Distant Early Warning
8. Manhattan Project (or The Big Money)


Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 06 2019 at 15:38
My list is a bit hackneyed, but there are too many great pre-1990 songs by Rush. I'm not a big fan of their music after that, although there are some gems.


Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: June 06 2019 at 17:39
Rush?

No way I could do it without it being a massive multi-disc boxed set.


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 06 2019 at 18:36
By-Tor And The Snow Dog
Bastille Day
2112
Cygnus X-1
The Trees
Jacobs Ladder
Red Barchetta
Subdivisions


-------------
Ian

Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com

https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 06 2019 at 21:44
- 2112.
- Xanadu.
- Natural Science.
- Tom Sawyer.
- Red Sector A.
- Dreamline.
- Spindrift.
- BU2B.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 06 2019 at 23:48
2112
Xanadu
La Vila Strangiato
Jacobs Ladder
Tom Sawyer
Analog Kid (Different Stages version)
Animate
Earthshine



Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 07 2019 at 03:25
Anthem
Fountain of Lamneth
2112
Xanadu
La Villa Strangiato
Tom Sawyer
Subdivisions
Ghost of a chance


-------------
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 07 2019 at 03:55
single CD
Working Man
By-Tor
2112
Passage To Bangkok
Something For Nothing
Xanadu
Cygnus X-1 (pt1)
La villa strangiato
Natural Science
YYZ


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 07 2019 at 05:30
Xanadu 
La Villa Strangiato
Jacob's Ladder
Camera Eye
Subdivisions
Afterimage
Marathon
Show Don't Tell

man, this was hard, tomorrow I could make a totally different list...



Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: June 07 2019 at 05:41
This should be fun (and tougher for me than the Genesis thread)

The Necromancer
Xanadu
Hemispheres
Freewill
Camera Eye
Losing It
Between The Wheels
Mystic Rhythms



Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 07 2019 at 14:18
Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

Rush?

No way I could do it without it being a massive multi-disc boxed set.
 

Think of it as Vol. I of IXWink


-------------
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay


Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: June 07 2019 at 16:07
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.


Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: June 07 2019 at 19:40
Great, fresh idea for new thread. 

I'd prefer to be able to choose any 8 songs, though--don't like the one-per-album restriction.


-------------
Drew Fisher
https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/


Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 07 2019 at 21:01
... and we should triple the # of tracks


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 07 2019 at 22:12
Side A:
Afterimage
Losing It
Ghost of a Chance
Freewill

Side B:
Circumstances
Something for Nothing
Anthem
Here Again



-------------
...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 13:49
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Great, fresh idea for new thread. 

I'd prefer to be able to choose any 8 songs, though--don't like the one-per-album restriction.
 

I cheated. LOL


-------------
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay


Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 14:19
1. Xanadu
2. The Spirit of Radio
3. Between the Wheels
4. Mystic Rhythms
5. The Pass
6. Dreamline
7. Earthshine
8. YYZ

-------------
Haiku

Writing a poem
With seventeen syllables
Is very diffic....


Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 18:35
Okay, so even though I hate doing this in less than 19 cuts (Rush has 19 original studio albums)

Fly By Night
Something for Nothing
Xanadu
The Trees

Natural Science
YYZ 
Subdivisions
Headlong Flight

But I have to add a bonus disc of all Deep Tracks/unexpected selections!

Lessons
Circumstances
Witch Hunt
Hand Over Fist

Emotion Detector
Turn the Page
Cold Fire
Driven


Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 18:37
Originally posted by Green Shield Stamp Green Shield Stamp wrote:

1. Xanadu
2. The Spirit of Radio
3. Between the Wheels
4. Mystic Rhythms
5. The Pass
6. Dreamline
7. Earthshine
8. YYZ

Two great deep cuts there in Between the Wheels and Mystic Rhythms!


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 06:46
why should I make a blank album? (ducks)


-------------


A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta


Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 10:25
^ Jean We're going to have a Rush intervention with you. We make you listen to Moving Pictures over and over again until you see the light. Hallelujah! LOL


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 10:42
no thanks, I have been exposed to the musical concoctions of Rush for a longer time than my ears can take. I honestly believe Rush are the most overrated band on this site


-------------


A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta


Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 11:45
^ You're crushing my soul Jean. Now I'm sad and I need to eat Jello. Cry


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 11:58
I'm sorry Unhappy, but in my opinion the music of Rush is way too "gefällig", to use a German term that is difficult to translate; it is somewhere between "smarmy" and "buddy-buddy", in a calculated way. which in my opinion explains their success

-------------


A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 13:00
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

no thanks, I have been exposed to the musical concoctions of Rush for a longer time than my ears can take. I honestly believe Rush are the most overrated band on this site
 

I guess what you feel towards Rush is what I feel towards Gentle Giant. LOL


-------------
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 13:01
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

why should I make a blank album? (ducks)
 

I know you love "The Camera Eye"! Wink


-------------
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay


Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 19:05
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I'm sorry Unhappy, but in my opinion the music of Rush is way too "gefällig", to use a German term that is difficult to translate; it is somewhere between "smarmy" and "buddy-buddy", in a calculated way. which in my opinion explains their success

Ridiculous.

smarm·y
/ˈsmärmē/
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS818US818&q=how+to+pronounce+smarmy&pron_lang=en&pron_country=us&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOMIfcRowS3w8sc9YSn9SWtOXmPU5OINKMrPK81LzkwsyczPExLiYglJLcoV4pLi4GIrzk0syq20YlFiSs3jWcQqnpFfrlCSr1AA1JEP1JKqAFEAAExYtgBXAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6h6zF2t3iAhUJi6wKHSVXDbkQ3eEDMAB6BAgKEAk" rel="nofollow">
Learn to pronounce
adjective
INFORMAL
  1. ingratiating and wheedling in a way that is perceived as insincere or excessive.
    "a smarmy, unctuous reply"


Rush never tried to ingratiate or wheedle in any way.  Quite the opposite.  Early on (not counting the first album), they came out with a style that ran counter to anything popular or anything that would appeal to the masses.  Their success was due to a level of integrity that overcame their running counter to popular tastes, trends, or expectations.  

Do you honestly think Caress of Steel was designed to be ingratiating?  It may be easy to say such a thing after the success of 2112, but going in, nobody could have predicted that was going to happen.  

And then, rather than following up with the formula applied in their proven success, they totally changed their sound with their next album.  And again, there's no way anybody could have predicted the success of A Farewell to Kings.  It certainly wasn't the type of album to appeal to the masses.  

And Neil Peart is one of the most sincere and genuine people ever.  

I can understand a variety of reasons people choose to not like Rush, but being ingratiating ain't one of them.  


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 19:42
Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I'm sorry Unhappy, but in my opinion the music of Rush is way too "gefällig", to use a German term that is difficult to translate; it is somewhere between "smarmy" and "buddy-buddy", in a calculated way. which in my opinion explains their success

Ridiculous.

smarm·y
/ˈsmärmē/
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS818US818&q=how+to+pronounce+smarmy&pron_lang=en&pron_country=us&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOMIfcRowS3w8sc9YSn9SWtOXmPU5OINKMrPK81LzkwsyczPExLiYglJLcoV4pLi4GIrzk0syq20YlFiSs3jWcQqnpFfrlCSr1AA1JEP1JKqAFEAAExYtgBXAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6h6zF2t3iAhUJi6wKHSVXDbkQ3eEDMAB6BAgKEAk" rel="nofollow">
Learn to pronounce
adjective
INFORMAL
  1. ingratiating and wheedling in a way that is perceived as insincere or excessive.
    "a smarmy, unctuous reply"


Rush never tried to ingratiate or wheedle in any way.  Quite the opposite.  Early on (not counting the first album), they came out with a style that ran counter to anything popular or anything that would appeal to the masses.  Their success was due to a level of integrity that overcame their running counter to popular tastes, trends, or expectations.  

Do you honestly think Caress of Steel was designed to be ingratiating?  It may be easy to say such a thing after the success of 2112, but going in, nobody could have predicted that was going to happen.  

And then, rather than following up with the formula applied in their proven success, they totally changed their sound with their next album.  And again, there's no way anybody could have predicted the success of A Farewell to Kings.  It certainly wasn't the type of album to appeal to the masses.  

And Neil Peart is one of the most sincere and genuine people ever.  

I can understand a variety of reasons people choose to not like Rush, but being ingratiating ain't one of them.  

you will note that I used the German word "gefällig", of which I said it could not be adequately translated. there is no English word that really captures the meaning of this German word. anyway, de gustibus non est disputandum. I consider Rush to be epigones, and they definitely don't hit a nerve with me. I personally think that the Randian views of Neil Peart reflect in the music of Rush. but I respect your opinion. if you like Rush, fine with me. but I equally have the right not to like them

-------------


A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta


Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 20:08
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I consider Rush to be epigones, and they definitely don't
hit a nerve with me. I personally think that the Randian views of Neil
Peart reflect in the music of Rush. but I respect your opinion. if you
like Rush, fine with me. but I equally have the right not to like them


Peart definitely toned down the Objectivism over time. But the libertarian streak was still there at least through the 1990s. I disagree with those who characterize the earlier Peart lyrics as fascist, but I also disagree with the apologists who insist that any political stance in his lyrics is (incorrectly) inferred by critics.

I see Peart’s mid-1970s lyrics as reflecting a very intelligent but impressionable young man. By the mid-1980s he was more of a skeptic. But I always felt like he was stating or explaining his (or Rand’s) opinions rather than preaching them. So literally, his lyrics are often pedantic, and often clumsy.


Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 21:27
I never meant to imply you don't have a reason to not like Rush... only that your reason for not liking them didn't make sense at least as presented.

If they don't move you, then that's good enough all by itself; no further reasoning necessary.

I will add though that if you're now hanging your hat on Peart's interest in Rand, that's a hopelessly narrow assessment of his influences. He was already moving beyond that as early as 1977, and by the early 90s had completely evolved into a more humanist philosophy.


Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 21:32
Originally posted by patrickq patrickq wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I consider Rush to be epigones, and they definitely don't
hit a nerve with me. I personally think that the Randian views of Neil
Peart reflect in the music of Rush. but I respect your opinion. if you
like Rush, fine with me. but I equally have the right not to like them


Peart definitely toned down the Objectivism over time. But the libertarian streak was still there at least through the 1990s. I disagree with those who characterize the earlier Peart lyrics as fascist, but I also disagree with the apologists who insist that any political stance in his lyrics is (incorrectly) inferred by critics.

I see Peart’s mid-1970s lyrics as reflecting a very intelligent but impressionable young man. By the mid-1980s he was more of a skeptic. But I always felt like he was stating or explaining his (or Rand’s) opinions rather than preaching them. So literally, his lyrics are often pedantic, and often clumsy.


2112 is as anti-fascist as it gets. Even one who finds it clumsy or pedantic must admit it's a serious rebellion against a centrally controlled, oppressive regime.

I've heard a lot of negative criticism if Peart's lyrics through the years, but I never heard it called fascist.


Posted By: TenYearsAfter
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 21:33
If you want attention on the Forum, just nail an acclaimed band, I notice that this still works, more than posting a serious subject.


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 21:52
I thought the Chronicles compilation was excellent with only a very few exceptions but contained the most essential tracks up to Presto i believe. 




-------------

https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 21:53
Originally posted by TenYearsAfter TenYearsAfter wrote:

If you want attention on the Forum, just nail an acclaimed band, I notice that this still works, more than posting a serious subject.

I certainly don't need attention. some people don't like Van der Graaf Generator or Magma and say so, which is perfectly fine with me. I happen not to like Rush for a variety of reasons

-------------


A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 22:33
Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

Originally posted by patrickq patrickq wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I consider Rush to be epigones, and they definitely don't
hit a nerve with me. I personally think that the Randian views of Neil
Peart reflect in the music of Rush. but I respect your opinion. if you
like Rush, fine with me. but I equally have the right not to like them


Peart definitely toned down the Objectivism over time. But the libertarian streak was still there at least through the 1990s. I disagree with those who characterize the earlier Peart lyrics as fascist, but I also disagree with the apologists who insist that any political stance in his lyrics is (incorrectly) inferred by critics.

I see Peart’s mid-1970s lyrics as reflecting a very intelligent but impressionable young man. By the mid-1980s he was more of a skeptic. But I always felt like he was stating or explaining his (or Rand’s) opinions rather than preaching them. So literally, his lyrics are often pedantic, and often clumsy.


2112 is as anti-fascist as it gets. Even one who finds it clumsy or pedantic must admit it's a serious rebellion against a centrally controlled, oppressive regime.

I've heard a lot of negative criticism if Peart's lyrics through the years, but I never heard it called fascist.


This is an interesting read (good old Quora): https://www.quora.com/Are-Rushs-lyrics-fascist" rel="nofollow - https://www.quora.com/Are-Rushs-lyrics-fascist

And see: https://rushvault.com/2011/08/29/excerpt-may-5-1979-nme-interview-with-neil/" rel="nofollow - https://rushvault.com/2011/08/29/excerpt-may-5-1979-nme-interview-with-neil/

And https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/may/13/rush-nme-interview-1978-rocks-backpages" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/may/13/rush-nme-interview-1978-rocks-backpages

From the Guardian article:

Quote They are actually very nice guys. They don’t sit there in jackboots pulling the wings off flies. They are polite, charming even, naïve – roaming the concert circuits preaching what to me seems like proto-fascism like a leper without a bell.


I dislike Rand personally, and I have found various Peart lyrics off-putting. that said, I quite like the band and will try a list later.

-------------
Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I observed before. It can be much like that with music for me; immersed in experiencing the moment.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 10 2019 at 00:54
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

no thanks, I have been exposed to the musical concoctions of Rush for a longer time than my ears can take. I honestly believe Rush are the most overrated band on this site
 

I guess what you feel towards Rush is what I feel towards Gentle Giant. LOL


Yeah, I'm on a similar page with GG. Never really 'got it'

-------------
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 10 2019 at 01:07
Originally posted by patrickq patrickq wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I consider Rush to be epigones, and they definitely don't
hit a nerve with me. I personally think that the Randian views of Neil
Peart reflect in the music of Rush. but I respect your opinion. if you
like Rush, fine with me. but I equally have the right not to like them


Peart definitely toned down the Objectivism over time. But the libertarian streak was still there at least through the 1990s. I disagree with those who characterize the earlier Peart lyrics as fascist, but I also disagree with the apologists who insist that any political stance in his lyrics is (incorrectly) inferred by critics.

I see Peart’s mid-1970s lyrics as reflecting a very intelligent but impressionable young man. By the mid-1980s he was more of a skeptic. But I always felt like he was stating or explaining his (or Rand’s) opinions rather than preaching them. So literally, his lyrics are often pedantic, and often clumsy.


I agree, there's nothing fascistic in Rush's lyrical content. I also agree that Peart was obviously an intelligent but impressionable young man. When blending politics with music, one has to be careful as your political views can change over time, and can come back to haunt you. When we're young, we all think we're completely correct about everything. Part of growing up is admitting to yourself that you're not. It takes a bit of wisdom to to understand that there is no definitive political solution to the 'human condition' If there was, it would have been implemented. It also takes some guts to admit that you were wrong.

As much a I love Rush, I can take or leave most of Peart's lyrics.

-------------
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 10 2019 at 02:28
I did not say Rush's lyrics are fascistic; I did not even refer to the lyrics at all. the "Randian" comment was solely about the music


-------------


A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 10 2019 at 02:42
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I did not say Rush's lyrics are fascistic; I did not even refer to the lyrics at all. the "Randian" comment was solely about the music


I know you didn't. I was responding to patrickq, who said he disagreed with those who say Peart's lyrics were fascistic, as do I. It wasn't in response to anything you said.

-------------
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: June 10 2019 at 05:15
Originally posted by TenYearsAfter TenYearsAfter wrote:

If you want attention on the Forum, just nail an acclaimed band, I notice that this still works, more than posting a serious subject.

Walking into a thread and taking a gigantic dump on the subject of the thread is a douchbag move. Doesn't matter who the poster is, doesn't matter what the subject is, it's still a crappy thing to do. There are plenty of threads on these boards about bands/artists whose music doesn't do anything for me. You know what I do in those cases? I avoid the thread. I don't take a huge sh*t all over it.



Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: June 10 2019 at 05:33
Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by TenYearsAfter TenYearsAfter wrote:

If you want attention on the Forum, just nail an acclaimed band, I notice that this still works, more than posting a serious subject.

Walking into a thread and taking a gigantic dump on the subject of the thread is a douchbag move. Doesn't matter who the poster is, doesn't matter what the subject is, it's still a crappy thing to do. There are plenty of threads on these boards about bands/artists whose music doesn't do anything for me. You know what I do in those cases? I avoid the thread. I don't take a huge sh*t all over it.

Not sure who’s the offender here, but if I’m the one responsible for going negative, I apologize!


Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: June 10 2019 at 06:54
Originally posted by patrickq patrickq wrote:

Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by TenYearsAfter TenYearsAfter wrote:

If you want attention on the Forum, just nail an acclaimed band, I notice that this still works, more than posting a serious subject.

Walking into a thread and taking a gigantic dump on the subject of the thread is a douchbag move. Doesn't matter who the poster is, doesn't matter what the subject is, it's still a crappy thing to do. There are plenty of threads on these boards about bands/artists whose music doesn't do anything for me. You know what I do in those cases? I avoid the thread. I don't take a huge sh*t all over it.

Not sure who’s the offender here, but if I’m the one responsible for going negative, I apologize!

No need to apologize. My comments weren't directed at you. 


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 10 2019 at 07:27
when someone resorts to an argumentum ad hominem I ignore him or her on principle


-------------


A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta


Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: June 10 2019 at 07:50
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

when someone resorts to an argumentum ad hominem I ignore him or her on principle
yeah. Back when I was in school I ignored my principal as well. She said my spelling was poor.


Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 10 2019 at 15:44
I think every band is an imitator at first to some extent, and as with any band, it took time for Rush to develop a unique sound. They developed an interesting way of using suspended chords, chord inversions, and added tones on chords. And, I think their use of odd time signatures fit the music like a glove and doesn't sound forced.


Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: June 10 2019 at 22:18
I nearly played the one Rush album in my collection (Hemispheres) in sympathy for the poor fans whose fun is being spoiled here .

-------------
"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 04:17
I think Jean's comment has been misunderstood. It is no secret at all on this site that we two don't like Rush. Her comment was rather self-ironic, like "expect the Baldies to throw a spanner in the works".


-------------


BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.


Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 07:51
It's funny. I usually find that people either love the music of Rush or they hate it. I don't think I've ever found anyone in the middle. Some people can't stand Geddy Lee's vocals. I think the song that hooked me onto Rush was Freewill and I found the vocals, chords, odd time signatures, incredible bass/guitar solo, and strange lyrics (that weren't about typical rock topics) mesmerizing. You'll also find people who love their stuff up to about Moving Pictures and hate their music after that. Or they love the stuff up to Power Windows and not care for the music after 1989. Or they love Fly By Night through Hemispheres. Some like it all. They are not everyone's cup of tea. And, Rush may not be in the Big Six. But, 7 is a lucky number and Rush played a tremendous role in keeping prog alive. People have expressed dislike for Rush for many years and I respect that opinion. If anything, Rush fans are used to it and are pretty thick skinned. Rush's original audience was different from that of the Big Six. They first appealed to working stiffs. As a working stiff myself, I find something original, interesting, and at times beautiful in their music. But, I don't enjoy much passed 1989. Ha!


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 21:29
^ I do like Rush, but I wouldn't say I love them. I got all their albums more out of luck than design (I expected to get from 2112 up to Moving Pictures, but once I got them, they got some good priced box sets with the rest of their albums, so I ended up with them all).


Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 11:27
Wait a minute. You have all their albums but you don't love their music?   Hmmmm. Are you sure about that? That's a lot of albums! I don't even have all their albums. You do realize that this is a safe space, right? We're not here to judge you. If you decide you do love Rush's music, we won't criticize you. Scout's honor.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 12:53
Rush like every band on the planet(including the Beatles)were hit or miss. Some bands are more hit and less miss but it's impossible for any band to have every song be perfect. That said I believe Rush had a better track record than most and I would even dare say they had a better track record than any band I like(which includes Yes, Genesis, KC, PF, etc). The only band they might not beat is the aforementioned Beatles. Aside from that taste is subjective and everyone has a different taste in music. I got into Rush at around the same time I started to get into Yes, Genesis etc. My brother's best friend was into them and I already was familiar with them having been a big radio listener but also already had "signals" on cassette. Music is something you relate to. I related to them on a deeper level and found their music intriguing(lyrically and musically)and still do. Not many rock bands(and not even all prog bands)strive to be more and give something beyond what others give to their audience. In the case of Rush it was a combination of power, bombast and intelligence that somehow worked. No other bands really did what they did they way they did it. A few kind of come close in some ways(Boston, Styx, Uriah Heep and Led Zeppelin)but non were really doing it in such a cerebral and emotional way at the same time imo.


Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 13:52
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Rush like every band on the planet(including the Beatles)were hit or miss. Some bands are more hit and less miss but it's impossible for any band to have every song be perfect. That said I believe Rush had a better track record than most and I would even dare say they had a better track record than any band I like(which includes Yes, Genesis, KC, PF, etc). The only band they might not beat is the aforementioned Beatles. Aside from that taste is subjective and everyone has a different taste in music. I got into Rush at around the same time I started to get into Yes, Genesis etc. My brother's best friend was into them and I already was familiar with them having been a big radio listener but also already had "signals" on cassette. Music is something you relate to. I related to them on a deeper level and found their music intriguing(lyrically and musically)and still do. Not many rock bands(and not even all prog bands)strive to be more and give something beyond what others give to their audience. In the case of Rush it was a combination of power, bombast and intelligence that somehow worked. No other bands really did what they did they way they did it. A few kind of come close in some ways(Boston, Styx, Uriah Heep and Led Zeppelin)but non were really doing it in such a cerebral and emotional way at the same time imo.

Bingo.

Of course, lack of emotion and too much cerebralness is the oft quoted condemnation of Rush.  For those folks, I think their 'Emotion Detector' is faulty Big smile


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 14:22
Not trying to be dismissive, but I have never found Rush that cerebral (but perhaps I'm just not enough of an intellectual to get it).

-------------
Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I observed before. It can be much like that with music for me; immersed in experiencing the moment.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 14:29
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I think Jean's comment has been misunderstood. It is no secret at all on this site that we two don't like Rush. Her comment was rather self-ironic, like "expect the Baldies to throw a spanner in the works".
 

I love the Baldies!

As a Rush fanboy for 35 years, I'm perfectly okay with people who don't like Rush. I know a joke when I see one. Wink


-------------
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay


Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 14:40
Good post FKC. There are great messages in songs like Different Strings, Entre Nous, Losing It, Subdivisions, Manhattan Project, and others. Definitely in sharp contrast to other songs on the radio at the time, like Cherry Pie by Warrant but to each their own.


Posted By: Crimsonsnowdog
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 14:56
1.2112
2. YYZ
3. Working Man
4. Distant Early Warning
5. By-Tor and the Snowdog
6. Natural Science
7. La Villa Stragiato
8. Xanadu


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 16:02
Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

Good post FKC. There are great messages in songs like Different Strings, Entre Nous, Losing It, Subdivisions, Manhattan Project, and others. Definitely in sharp contrast to other songs on the radio at the time, like Cherry Pie by Warrant but to each their own.

Thanks. Well, I've never been much of a fan of hair metal(and only like a few bands that come close such as Def Leppard)so I'm maybe not the best person to judge. Straight up pop music(or anything that has big hits) is usually going to have the worst lyrics though. I'm sure there are some exceptions but I can't think of many off the top of my head. 


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 22:21
Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

Wait a minute. You have all their albums but you don't love their music?   Hmmmm. Are you sure about that? That's a lot of albums! I don't even have all their albums. You do realize that this is a safe space, right? We're not here to judge you. If you decide you do love Rush's music, we won't criticize you. Scout's honor.


As I said, they just happened to have those two box sets at the music store I usually visit... well, first one, and then the other, with exactly the albums I hadn't got yet, at a very accessible price (about 25 dollars I think, if I try to make the conversion at memory). I mean, it was 5 or 6 albums at the price, I guess of 2 albums each. I still don't have some of their live albums, though.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 13 2019 at 02:18
Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Rush like every band on the planet(including the Beatles)were hit or miss. Some bands are more hit and less miss but it's impossible for any band to have every song be perfect. That said I believe Rush had a better track record than most and I would even dare say they had a better track record than any band I like(which includes Yes, Genesis, KC, PF, etc). The only band they might not beat is the aforementioned Beatles. Aside from that taste is subjective and everyone has a different taste in music. I got into Rush at around the same time I started to get into Yes, Genesis etc. My brother's best friend was into them and I already was familiar with them having been a big radio listener but also already had "signals" on cassette. Music is something you relate to. I related to them on a deeper level and found their music intriguing(lyrically and musically)and still do. Not many rock bands(and not even all prog bands)strive to be more and give something beyond what others give to their audience. In the case of Rush it was a combination of power, bombast and intelligence that somehow worked. No other bands really did what they did they way they did it. A few kind of come close in some ways(Boston, Styx, Uriah Heep and Led Zeppelin)but non were really doing it in such a cerebral and emotional way at the same time imo.


Bingo.

Of course, lack of emotion and too much cerebralness is the oft quoted condemnation of Rush.  For those folks, I think their 'Emotion Detector' is faulty Big smile


Yeah, I never understood why people felt their music to be cold and unemotional. The moment The Spirit of Radio fired up on Exit Stage..Left (the first Rush album I heard) It sounded like some of the most heartfelt music I'd ever heard.


-------------
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: October 20 2019 at 00:18
Can't do it

-------------
“War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four



"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart





Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: October 20 2019 at 00:32
1. YYZ
2. Cygnus x-1
3. The Necromancer
4. Rivendell
5. Natural Science
6. Something For Nothing
7. La Villa Strangiato
8. Working Man



-------------
https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">
https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp


Posted By: ProjektGemineye1
Date Posted: October 20 2019 at 14:11
Hmmm..this should be interesting. Love Rush! My favorite band..period!

1. Anthem
2. A Passage to Bangkok
3. The Trees
4. Jacobs Ladder
5. Red Barcetta
6. Lakeside Park
7. Animate
8. Xanadu




Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 21 2019 at 01:08
Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

Originally posted by patrickq patrickq wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I consider Rush to be epigones, and they definitely don't
hit a nerve with me. I personally think that the Randian views of Neil
Peart reflect in the music of Rush. but I respect your opinion. if you
like Rush, fine with me. but I equally have the right not to like them


Peart definitely toned down the Objectivism over time. But the libertarian streak was still there at least through the 1990s. I disagree with those who characterize the earlier Peart lyrics as fascist, but I also disagree with the apologists who insist that any political stance in his lyrics is (incorrectly) inferred by critics.

I see Peart’s mid-1970s lyrics as reflecting a very intelligent but impressionable young man. By the mid-1980s he was more of a skeptic. But I always felt like he was stating or explaining his (or Rand’s) opinions rather than preaching them. So literally, his lyrics are often pedantic, and often clumsy.


2112 is as anti-fascist as it gets. Even one who finds it clumsy or pedantic must admit it's a serious rebellion against a centrally controlled, oppressive regime.

I've heard a lot of negative criticism if Peart's lyrics through the years, but I never heard it called fascist.


Critics who referred to Rush as fascist, based on their lyrical content, didn't understand the definition of fascism, in the same way so many Americans don't know what socialism is, and actually believe Europe is communist. I don't know what they teach kids in High School in the US, but it needs looking at.

There were some extreme left wing music hacks in the UK in the late 70's, who took exception to Peart's Ayn Rand fixation, and accused him of fascism, but I've been listening to Rush for almost 40 years, and I've yet to come across any veneration or advocacy of anything remotely fascist. The polar opposite in fact.

-------------
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 04 2020 at 16:06
This could take awhile because I've never listened to any albums by Rush before, but I'm in no rush and one thing's for sure, "Spirit of Radio" will be one of my selections, whichever album it appears on. Smile


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 06 2020 at 01:13
1. Working Man (Rush)
 
 
2. By-Tor & the Snow Dog (Fly by Night)
 
 
3. The Necromancer (Caress of Steel)
 
 
4. Tears (2112)
 
 
5. Xanadu (A Farewell to Kings)
 
 
6. La Villa Strangiato (Hemispheres)
 
 
7. Spirit of Radio (Permanent Waves)
 
 
8. Tom Sawyer (Moving Pictures)
 
 
9. Time Stands Still (Special Limited Edition Bonus Track) Smile
 


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 06 2020 at 08:36
The CHRONICLES compilation was pretty damn good. Covered all the essentials as far as single tracks go.

My dream album would probably be (in original LP format):

Side 1
2112

Side 2
Xanadu
La Villa Strangiato
A Farewell To Kings

BONUS 2 ALBUM RELEASE:

Side 3
Cygnus X-1
Cygnus X-1 Book II Hemispheres

Side 4
The Trees
Witch Hunt
Natural Science
YYZ


-------------

https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 06 2020 at 13:08
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Xanadu 
La Villa Strangiato
Jacob's Ladder
Camera Eye
Subdivisions
Afterimage
Marathon
Show Don't Tell

man, this was hard, tomorrow I could make a totally different list...


I like it....I might substitute Mission for Show Don't Tell, although I like the drumming on it. The Camera Eye has long been one of my fav tunes by Rush.


-------------


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 08 2020 at 09:14
My Rush CD compilation is a limited special edition with "Time Stands Still" included as a bonus track, so get it while stocks last to avoid disappointment. Smile


Posted By: Earl of Mar
Date Posted: May 16 2020 at 06:29
The camera eye
2112 (ATWAS).
Xanadu
Cygnus x1 book1
Manhatten Project
Subdivisions
Bastille Day
A passage to bankok




Print Page | Close Window

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Copyright ©2001-2014 Web Wiz Ltd. - http://www.webwiz.co.uk