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Topic: Great Albums With Bad Album CoversPosted By: dougmcauliffe
Subject: Great Albums With Bad Album Covers
Date Posted: July 10 2019 at 20:06
Godbluff, looks like a live album
Close to the edge, mmmm hot take, the new Steven Wilson remaster cover is a huge improvement
Hamburger Concerto, same deal as godbluff
Replies: Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: July 10 2019 at 20:13
think Hamburger Concerto is genius---sort of says it all.
CTTE is great because its so simple---Didnt like Hand cannot erase album cover---
But was never crazy about Trespass Nursery Crime or Foxtrot not great art---from my Fav band.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 10 2019 at 23:58
The Power And The Glory.
Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 00:53
In the Land of Grey and Pink (Caravan) Fish Out of Water (Chris Squire) X (Klaus Schulze) S.F. Sorrow (the Pretty Things) Presto (Rush)
Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 00:55
twosteves wrote:
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But was never crazy about Trespass Nursery Crime or Foxtrot not great art---from my Fav band.
Agreed. I actually like the cover of Abacab, though, so....
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 02:27
Guru Guru - Hinten. A naked hairy man's butt is just not a great sight. Yes, it is meant humorously, but still - no thanks.
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 02:41
BaldFriede wrote:
Guru Guru - Hinten. A naked hairy man's butt is just not a great sight. Yes, it is meant humorously, but still - no thanks.
How dare you? Male naked butts are a staple of progressive rock covers!
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 03:19
BaldFriede wrote:
Guru Guru - Hinten. A naked hairy man's butt is just not a great sight. Yes, it is meant humorously, but still - no thanks.
Agreed. That's why I keep mine always behind me .
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 03:25
Marillion - Anoraknophobia
that album cover made me scratch my head and say "what were they thinking?"
Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 04:06
Rush - Hemispheres (why?)
Yes - Going for the one (why? ...again)
Hawklords - 25 Years on
IQ - Frequency
Tangerine Dream - Bootleg Box set 1 (very representative of the music...)
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Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 04:16
BaldFriede wrote:
Guru Guru - Hinten. A naked hairy man's butt is just not a great sight. Yes, it is meant humorously, but still - no thanks.
of course, the butt isn’t always https://images.app.goo.gl/YFd6WxD4LHVPczCj9" rel="nofollow - enough ...
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 05:45
The Tarkus artwork always looked a bit naff to me
(ditto VDGG's H to He Who Am the Only One)
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 05:52
I'm going slightly non-prog to nominate the debut Montrose album, although at least there are no butts involved.
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 06:10
I'm going to expand the tendency of the latest posts to the outer circle of the realm of PA:
Not a great album, only the closing track is excellent; the rest is decent.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 06:46
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 10:07
for some reason I always think the guy on the Hawklords cover is supposed to be a swashbuckler. why he is holding a glowing neon tube is beyond me though. maybe he is the space age equivalent of a swashbuckler, an intergalactic pirate, and that neon tube is a kind of laser sword. I don't know, but he is a swashbuckler for sure
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Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 12:45
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 12:46
verslibre wrote:
chopper wrote:
I'm going slightly non-prog to nominate the debut Montrose album, although at least there are no butts involved.
That cover's fine. One can do much, much worse when it comes to "shirtless band pix." Like that Orleans album (not gonna post it!).
RIP Ronnie Montrose. That first record is outstanding, and Paper Money is a worthy follow-up. No sophomore jinx with those guys.
I expect there are worse but it wasn't that fine when I had to carry that record into school back in the day.
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 13:01
BaldFriede wrote:
Guru Guru - Hinten. A naked hairy man's butt is just not a great sight. Yes, it is meant humorously, but still - no thanks.
I'm with you on this one. Not a fun cover to look at.
Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 13:38
ForestFriend wrote:
oh I forgot about this one. It’s bad bad.
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 13:51
dougmcauliffe wrote:
Godbluff, looks like a live album
Close to the edge, mmmm hot take, the new Steven Wilson remaster cover is a huge improvement
Hamburger Concerto, same deal as godbluff
Two of my favorite albums, and I don’t think I can disagree with you.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 15:06
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
dougmcauliffe wrote:
Godbluff, looks like a live album
Close to the edge, mmmm hot take, the new Steven Wilson remaster cover is a huge improvement
Hamburger Concerto, same deal as godbluff
Two of my favorite albums, and I don’t think I can disagree with you.
Oh yeah, the above 3 are all incredible albums
Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: July 11 2019 at 15:36
/\ funny, I wonder if I think the cover of Close to the Edge is great just because the contents are.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 00:13
Argo2112 wrote:
Surprised no one said Tarkus, although that's one that might be so bad , it's good.
Someone did
To me this is a great cover in terms of design and is Pictures At An Exhibition
The worst ELP cover has to be Welcome Back My Friends . Totally says 'couldn't be bothered'.
Tormato must also a slam dunk in any ones book.
Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 01:06
/\ I’ve always loved the Tormato color scheme.
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 02:05
Big Generator. (That hideous yellow...)
Love Beach. (And there are worse outtakes as well. And it's not a well taken photo...)
Hemispheres. (I suppose it's in the title...)
Going For The One. (I know these two have been mentioned but ... butt...)
Talk.
(Even if this was marketed well which it wasn't that would mean even
more people would be annoyed at another Roger Dean -less cover. Pop
group - quite good - with access to the single best artist for album
covers (alone), decide against that and do this one...)
Abacab. (And there are 4 versions. C'mon guys it's not exactly the In Through The Out Door art...)
Black
Sabbath. (Never Say Die just like And Then There Was Three is just a complex
idea that failed as the art tried to link to the lyrical content. But
Bill Ward in his wife's tights might just beat 'em all).
Posted By: Spacegod87
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 06:35
Acquiring the taste by Gentle Giant.
It...just makes me uncomfortable..
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 07:15
uduwudu wrote:
Hemispheres. (I suppose it's in the title...)
Going For The One. (I know these two have been mentioned but ... butt...)
Progheads really need to get over their fears of becoming gay because they'd like album covers featuring male buttocks ...
Grow up for prog's sake.
Would you think these album artworks as good if it was females' buttocks on the covers??
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 07:26
Sean Trane wrote:
uduwudu wrote:
Hemispheres. (I suppose it's in the title...)
Going For The One. (I know these two have been mentioned but ... butt...)
Progheads really need to get over their fears of becoming gay because they'd like album covers featuring male buttocks ...
Grow up for prog's sake.
Would you think these album artworks as good if it was females' buttocks on the covers??
No, better:
I prefer this one, and also Zep's Houses of the Holy, over the ones aforementioned.
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 08:23
Soft Machine's. Truly uninspired. By the way, I like that one by Spring which shows either a dead or sleeping bobby wrapped in what appears to be the Union Jack.
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 09:38
I do like the Spring album cover. It's nice and creepy.
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 12:08
What makes this a bad album cover to me is his petulant stance.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 12:47
Good record...bad cover.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 12:57
Lazier than usual
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 13:34
First three Yes album covers and also 90125 and Big Generator. YMMV.
Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 15:42
dr wu23 wrote:
Good record...bad cover.
The man v. civilization theme works, but what the hell does it have to do with the music in Going for the One?
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 23:57
I just feel very inadequate looking at that.
I suppose the theme is 'oh sh*t punk is happening and we aren't going to get away with another Roger Dean cover'
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: July 13 2019 at 02:35
ForestFriend wrote:
Is this real? As in, you DIDN'T just make this in MS Paint as a joke for this thread...?
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: July 13 2019 at 07:54
I remember a lot of folks hating on the Rush Power Windows album cover
Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: July 13 2019 at 09:09
I'm not keen on Birth Control's "Hoodoo Man" cover although it does fit the title track.
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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: July 13 2019 at 09:15
At least they spared us on this one .
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 07:22
nice thread
bump
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 08:48
miamiscot wrote:
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Meddle - Pink Floyd
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Hi,
Careful ... you might be told you don't listen!
(It's a close up on an ear under water ... a take on a line about not listening according to the Hipgnosis book! You can see it better on the English LP setting as it is clean ... the American version is badly reproduced and the cover is more difficult to figure out.)
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 08:54
moshkito wrote:
miamiscot wrote:
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Meddle - Pink Floyd
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Hi,
Careful ... you might be told you don't listen!
(It's a close up on an ear under water ... a take on a line about not listening according to the Hipgnosis book! You can see it better on the English LP setting as it is clean ... the American version is badly reproduced and the cover is more difficult to figure out.)
He never said he didn't know what it was.
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 09:07
I've been in the middle of a Gong marathon over the last two weeks, so there's this one. I think it could do with a better background and the title in a different font.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 09:21
BaldJean wrote:
for some reason I always think the guy on the Hawklords cover is supposed to be a swashbuckler. why he is holding a glowing neon tube is beyond me though. maybe he is the space age equivalent of a swashbuckler, an intergalactic pirate, and that neon tube is a kind of laser sword. I don't know, but he is a swashbuckler for sure
Just goes to show that our imaginations sometimes take over and lead us to either like something or not. It's hardly the worst album cover out there. An album like Close To The Edge deserves a better album cover for instance. In fact it would look much better with the Kansas album cover for Point Of Know Return!
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 09:39
Oh My God!! That dreadful Gong album cover has to be the worst album cover ever!
I just hope the godawful Gong album cover was Saved by the Music.
Posted By: yogev
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 09:39
ForestFriend wrote:
The worst album cover I have ever seen, although the music is fantastic.
Posted By: Artik
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 11:07
I think "Tormato" cover was a disaster (being a good album musicaly) barely saved by Rick throwing a tomato at it, making sort of conceptual art self-joke out of it.
Other one that makes me cringe:
It's a reissue, but still. The original cover at the size of post stamp complete with arctic landscape, fancy 80s car, Star Wars' stormtrooper, the Moon and Michelangelo's David above it all
Posted By: Crane
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 11:55
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 12:34
The final Flash studio LP, "Out of our Hands," would easily qualify.
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 12:50
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 13:20
I actually think this album cover is great, but I know a lot of folks don't agree.
Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 13:35
The Final Cut - Roger Waters thought he could take total artistic control over the band, even down to designing the cover. [Not to mention putting his own name above 'Pink Floyd'.] Whilst I love the album, aesthetically it more resembled a GCSE art project rather than being up to the standard of some of the Hipgnosis designed sleeves, e.g. DSotM, WYWH, Ummagumma, Animals etc.
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Posted By: yogev
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 15:06
dwill123 wrote:
I actually think this album cover is great, but I know a lot of folks don't agree.
This album cover is one of my favorite album covers. As you can see...
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 15:11
Who's Next...
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 15:33
The Beatles "White Album".
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 16:02
ELP - Tarkus
That's about all I can think of off the top of my head.
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 16:58
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
The Beatles "White Album".
That's one of my favourite album covers :)
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 00:18
Of course, we cannot forget Spinal Tap's "Smell the Glove!"
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 02:13
I have to remind myself, this is about great albums with bad covers, not bad albums also with bad covers, for example, Abacab or Love Beach..
So..
I concur with regard to Yes GFTO, Rush Presto/Hemispheres,
Then there's..
Duke - Genesis Nursery Cryme - Genesis Foxtrot - Genesis Sabotage - Black Sabbath PXR5 - Hawkwind Trilogy - ELP Queen - A kind of Magic Fugazi - Marillion (sorry, I think it's awful)
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 02:20
Blacksword wrote:
I have to remind myself, this is about great albums with bad covers, not bad albums also with bad covers, for example, Abacab or Love Beach..
So..
I concur with regard to Yes GFTO, Rush Presto/Hemispheres,
Then there's..
Duke - Genesis Nursery Cryme - Genesis Foxtrot - Genesis Sabotage - Black Sabbath PXR5 - Hawkwind Trilogy - ELP Queen - A kind of Magic Fugazi - Marillion (sorry, I think it's awful)
This thread sure is interesting, because I personally consider Foxtrot to have an exemplary prog rock artwork!
cstack3 wrote:
Of course, we cannot forget Spinal Tap's "Smell the Glove!"
"What's wrong with being sexy?"
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 02:32
Blacksword wrote:
Duke - Genesis Nursery Cryme - Genesis Foxtrot - Genesis Sabotage - Black Sabbath PXR5 - Hawkwind Trilogy - ELP Queen - A kind of Magic Fugazi - Marillion (sorry, I think it's awful)
I don't find these albums cover you mention bad, they never bothered me in any way.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 02:58
Blacksword wrote:
I have to remind myself, this is about great albums with bad covers, not bad albums also with bad covers, for example, Abacab or Love Beach..
So..
I concur with regard to Yes GFTO, Rush Presto/Hemispheres,
Then there's..
Duke - Genesis Nursery Cryme - Genesis Foxtrot - Genesis Sabotage - Black Sabbath PXR5 - Hawkwind Trilogy - ELP Queen - A kind of Magic
Fugazi - Marillion (sorry, I think it's awful)
point well made, but "great" is all IMHO, right?
I really don't understand the deal with male nudity on Hemispheres and GFTO. Both are good covers (better than 2112 , also with male buttocks in the innergatefold and the kimonos on the back cover), though neither would be in my top 50 artworks.
No major problems with the Whitehead (incl VdGG and Le Orme) artworks either, even with the strange sense of perspectives , but the oddest Whitehead is Pawh Hearts, IMHO.
Duke & Trilogy are indeed poor (though there is a direction in Duke's gatefold art), Sabotage is awful and Fugazi is semi-sordid (but it isn't a good album, let alone great).
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 03:05
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I have to remind myself, this is about great albums with bad covers, not bad albums also with bad covers, for example, Abacab or Love Beach..
So..
I concur with regard to Yes GFTO, Rush Presto/Hemispheres,
Then there's..
Duke - Genesis Nursery Cryme - Genesis Foxtrot - Genesis Sabotage - Black Sabbath PXR5 - Hawkwind Trilogy - ELP Queen - A kind of Magic Fugazi - Marillion (sorry, I think it's awful)
This thread sure is interesting, because I personally consider Foxtrot to have an exemplary prog rock artwork!
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cstack3 wrote:
</span><div style="line-height: 18.2px;">Of course, we cannot forget Spinal Tap's "Smell the Glove!"<div style="line-height: 18.2px;"> <span style="line-height: 18.2px;">
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<div style="line-height: 18.2px;">"What's wrong with being sexy?"
I was never bowled over by those early Genesis album covers. I'm not sure why. They were just not to my taste I guess. That said, they are better than Duke, which was just a lazy failed attempt to appear 'modern' and minimalist. IMO.
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 03:18
Sean Trane wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I have to remind myself, this is about great albums with bad covers, not bad albums also with bad covers, for example, Abacab or Love Beach..
So..
I concur with regard to Yes GFTO, Rush Presto/Hemispheres,
Then there's..
Duke - Genesis Nursery Cryme - Genesis Foxtrot - Genesis Sabotage - Black Sabbath PXR5 - Hawkwind Trilogy - ELP Queen - A kind of Magic
Fugazi - Marillion (sorry, I think it's awful)
point well made, but "great" is all IMHO, right?
I really don't understand the deal with male nudity on Hemispheres and GFTO. Both are good covers (better than 2112 , also with male buttocks in the innergatefold and the kimonos on the back cover), though neither would be in my top 50 artworks.
No major problems with the Whitehead (incl VdGG and Le Orme) artworks either, even with the strange sense of perspectives , but the oddest Whitehead is Pawh Hearts, IMHO.
Duke & Trilogy are indeed poor (though there is a direction in Duke's gatefold art), Sabotage is awful and Fugazi is semi-sordid (but it isn't a good album, let alone great).
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I've always found H to HE to be Whitehead's strangest, most intriguing piece.
I still see it as a pair of lungs with a pocket watch attached, lol.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 03:40
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
Of course, we cannot forget Spinal Tap's "Smell the Glove!"
"What's wrong with being sexy?"
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Bless your heart, you remembered!!
I once played in a Spinal Tap tribute/satire band, sort of a Mobius strip of bad....It was an amazing experience!
The ultimate cover selected was, of course, the "black" cover....Spinal Tap confronted Metallica over their appropriation of the concept!!
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 04:14
Cristi wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
Duke - Genesis Nursery Cryme - Genesis Foxtrot - Genesis Sabotage - Black Sabbath PXR5 - Hawkwind Trilogy - ELP Queen - A kind of Magic Fugazi - Marillion (sorry, I think it's awful)
I don't find these albums cover you mention bad, they never bothered me in any way.
All down to personal taste. Some folk hate the cover to And then there were three, I think it's beautiful.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 04:22
Blacksword wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
Duke - Genesis Nursery Cryme - Genesis Foxtrot - Genesis Sabotage - Black Sabbath PXR5 - Hawkwind Trilogy - ELP Queen - A kind of Magic Fugazi - Marillion (sorry, I think it's awful)
I don't find these albums cover you mention bad, they never bothered me in any way.
All down to personal taste. Some folk hate the cover to And then there were three, I think it's beautiful.
obviously it's all subjective.
The ATTW3 cover is great, I agree.
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 06:05
patrickq wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Good record...bad cover.
The man v. civilization theme works, but what the hell does it have to do with the music in Going for the One?
Another album, along with Hemispheres, that I had to take to school in a brown bag for fear of people taking the **** as to why I had a guy's butt on an album.
Still, the inside photo is amazing.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 07:03
chopper wrote:
patrickq wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Good record...bad cover.
The man v. civilization theme works, but what the hell does it have to do with the music in Going for the One? >> you'd have to look into Jon's mumbo jumbo to find the answer to that
Another album, along with Hemispheres, that I had to take to school in a brown bag for fear of people taking the **** as to why I had a guy's butt on an album.
Still, the inside photo is amazing.
yeah, I can understand with the late-70's context, but still make an issue 40 years down the line
Do you find the following threatening your heterosexuality?
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 07:12
Sean Trane wrote:
chopper wrote:
patrickq wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Good record...bad cover.
The man v. civilization theme works, but what the hell does it have to do with the music in Going for the One? >> you'd have to look into Jon's mumbo jumbo to find the answer to that
Another album, along with Hemispheres, that I had to take to school in a brown bag for fear of people taking the **** as to why I had a guy's butt on an album.
Still, the inside photo is amazing.
yeah, I can understand with the late-70's context, but still make an issue 40 years down the line
Do you find the following threatening your heterosexuality?
I didn't have a problem with it then and don't know - it was just schoolboy humour.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 18 2021 at 10:11
Hi,
I've always been one to appreciate art and its history. To me, album covers were a sort of extension of the art history ... with multi media added to the whole thing, which made it even more different, but not any less "meaning" about the cover.
I kinda side with Hipgnosis, whose covers were always a sort of "editorial" about the music itself ... and it meant it right and then some, although it is hard to figure out what it might be considering covers like Flash 1 and 2, which I keep thinking were Sherry who used to post here on Flash's behalf for a long while. Not that it makes any difference, but I wonder if in some ways, that was the great inspiration for a lot of the music, and to me, that is valid, even if some of us might find it distasteful, however at the time, both Playboy and Penthouse were doing their picture spreads, and in my book, these 2 covers were far more exciting than the pictures in the magazines.
All in all, to me, a lot of the covers are sheer non-sense and its meaning is just bollocks! And, too many of them, are just an ego thing, and basically keeping up with the live concert idea of "sexiness" and "this and that" which was not existent and it was just a fabrication in our minds by a media trying hard to sell you an album.
There was a film, I think it was called LOOKER ... but I'm not sure right now as I have not found it again, and in it was a detailed breakdown of how the EYE saw images, and sure enough it gave us a great example of a girl surfing, and where were our eyes centered in there ... 2 places mostly, and in many ways it really defined a lot of advertising ... no wonder that film has disappeared ... it was a major point in how things were done to entice your money! Prostitution of the highest order in many ways!
It doesn't bother me if it is a man or a woman ... let it be ... but there are certain things that you can imagine real quick from history ... how a church did not want to emphasize sex by making the member bigger (you know the statue!) and then all the paintings for the previous hundreds of years that had satyrs in them were oversized men, even with horns, which you know was more of a church idea than a reality, anyway.
To me, for example, the Guru Guru cover is not ... whatever ... it was a way to say that the music was RAW and no fake stuff here ... and that was what Guru Guru was all about, even though I have been told that Mani is a well known "nudist" ... and whatever, but it many ways, it was not the only time that he mentioned sexual innuendos into the band's music ... like Chuck Berry didn't either ... what a crock ... and in those days, the TV and pictures could not have shown anything below the belly, because it insinuated something not right, or improper ... I call it more evangelical bullpoop by the same folks that still define what you should see on American TV ... people whose morals are so hypocritical as to be insane and most of them should be disgraced from their roles and mandates ... sort of like the majority of the educational system folks that run the local schools ... many of which are ... totally out of touch and time, and continue to hide under the floor boards!
My only comment, is how TODAY, so many bands do not work more with other artists to create something more valuable ... the day of the DAW, means that changing a note is more important than the album ... and many of these folks don't know, or understand, what art means to many of us, and its important role in our lives ... but I don't think that folks in America can help it ... for 40 to 50 years one party has consistently taken away the money for a lot of the arts from educational systems, because it was well known that the "arts" make people become more liberal and "anti-establishment" .... guess what the result is ...
Sad statement about the arts and what the music in many of these albums is all about. In most cases ... NOTHING!
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 05:21
Sean Trane wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I have to remind myself, this is about great albums with bad covers, not bad albums also with bad covers, for example, Abacab or Love Beach..
So..
I concur with regard to Yes GFTO, Rush Presto/Hemispheres,
Then there's..
Duke - Genesis Nursery Cryme - Genesis Foxtrot - Genesis Sabotage - Black Sabbath PXR5 - Hawkwind Trilogy - ELP Queen - A kind of Magic
Fugazi - Marillion (sorry, I think it's awful)
point well made, but "great" is all IMHO, right?
I really don't understand the deal with male nudity on Hemispheres and GFTO. Both are good covers (better than 2112 , also with male buttocks in the innergatefold and the kimonos on the back cover), though neither would be in my top 50 artworks.
No major problems with the Whitehead (incl VdGG and Le Orme) artworks either, even with the strange sense of perspectives , but the oddest Whitehead is Pawh Hearts, IMHO.
Duke & Trilogy are indeed poor (though there is a direction in Duke's gatefold art), Sabotage is awful and Fugazi is semi-sordid (but it isn't a good album, let alone great).
I actually consider "Fugazi" to be the best album Marillion ever made. It is the only album I like of them. The album cover also shows the covers of the Peter Hammill albums "Fool's Mate" and "Over"; the albums lie somewhere on the floor.
About the naked male rear view: At least the ass is only painted in the mentioned albums. On the Guru Guru album "Hinten" it is a real male ass (probably the ass of Mani Neumeier).
What about this album cover:
Or this one:
I am certain you can see Mani's testicles in the last one.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 09:28
yup, germans have been known to make some of the worst & tasteless albums covers (Birth Control anyone??)
But what I mean about Fugazi (besides not liking the music on it - the lesser of the Fish-era albums, IMHO) is the sordidness of it all is that I've always considered the Jester as a junkie in that sleeve . On top of it, the first two Marillion albums didn't get released as a gatefold sleeve, which kind of ruined the whole ensemble thing (full view)
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 19 2021 at 10:40
Sean Trane wrote:
yup, germans have been known to make some of the worst & tasteless albums covers (Birth Control anyone??)
But what I mean about Fugazi (besides not liking the music on it - the lesser of the Fish-era albums, IMHO) is the sordidness of it all is that I've always considered the Jester as a junkie in that sleeve . On top of it, the first two Marillion albums didn't get released as a gatefold sleeve, which kind of ruined the whole ensemble thing (full view)
With me it is the other way round - I consider "Script for a Jester's Tear" to be boring and "Misplaced Childhood" to be cringeworthy even. I am not a fan of Marillion at all; only "Fugazi" strikes a nerve with me. It is the album where Fish mostly resembles Peter Hammill with his singing, though the first few seconds of the title track of "Script for a Jester's Tear" are clearly a bow to Peter Hammill's song "Autumn" from his album "Over". For comparison:
Fish is known to be a huge fan of Peter Hammill.
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 13:48
cstack3 wrote:
The final Flash studio LP, "Out of our Hands," would easily qualify.
Reminiscent of Pleasure Signals by Danny Wilding and Pete Bonus.
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Posted By: Cboi Sandlin
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 16:57
I think that generally with album covers, the cover is usually nothing amazing. The music inside is usually what decides whether the album cover will be iconic or not. For example, the Dark Side Of The Moon cover is nothing genius, it is just a prism, but because the album is so great, the album cover has also become iconic. That's just a thought.
In response to the question, the biggest one for me would have to be Yes' Going For The One. I mean, who wants to see that dudes butt. Not me, that's for sure.
Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 00:26
Cboi Sandlin wrote:
For example, the Dark Side Of The Moon cover is nothing genius, it is just a prism, but because the album is so great, the album cover has also become iconic. That's just a thought.
Sometimes the genius of great artwork is utter simplicity, but then again what is and what isn't great art will always be subjective.
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 04:38
Not a great album but not to bad, Fireballet's second album "Two, Too".
Posted By: the-enid
Date Posted: March 30 2021 at 03:39
Love the band. Love the albums. Hate the covers!
Posted By: the-enid
Date Posted: March 30 2021 at 03:42
Arguably best album with worst cover - ever!
Posted By: luisM.
Date Posted: March 30 2021 at 14:44
One of their best albums but at the same time one of their worst covers.
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: March 30 2021 at 15:18
luisM. wrote:
One of their best albums but at the same time one of their worst covers.
Different strokes for different folks. I love that cover art. It’s one of my favourite DT covers. 😄
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Posted By: luisM.
Date Posted: March 30 2021 at 15:46
Indeed, different strokes for different folks. Although I prefer this cover than the When Dream and Day Unite cover.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 30 2021 at 15:50
This album isn't actually bad at all...
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 30 2021 at 16:13
Going for the one, Tormato and Big Generator although I'm sure many on here with the last two being "great." Duke by Genesis comes to mind also.
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 31 2021 at 00:54
the-enid wrote:
Love the band. Love the albums. Hate the covers!
This site never surprises me; I LOVE H to HE's artwork!!!
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Posted By: the-enid
Date Posted: March 31 2021 at 02:35
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
This site never surprises me; I LOVE H to HE's artwork!!!
No arguing with tastes, is there?!
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: March 31 2021 at 04:58
Not Prog but a pretty good live album (the cover speaks for itself).
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: April 01 2021 at 05:35
Also: David Bowie - Diamond Dogs
The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds. Advanced, sophisticated pop and feeding goats?
The Beatles - Rubber Soul. Never really been a fan of that photo actually. The close-up seems almost a bit agressive, and it is a bad representation of the music.
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: April 01 2021 at 05:58
This cover is quite ugly, but the songs sound like this:
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: April 01 2021 at 06:24
luisM. wrote:
One of their best albums but at the same time one of their worst covers.
I actually would've agreed with you at one point, but I think the style of this cover fits well with songs like Misunderstood, the title track and disappear. I think they have far worse covers out there, but not all of them are good albums in my opinion so they might not fit the thread. I think Falling Into Infinity is a pretty awful cover for an album that I actually dig quite a bit, especially considering it came from the same guy who did Dark Side of the Moon, Peter Gabriel 3, Animals to name a few
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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: April 01 2021 at 21:38