The Beatles Abbey Road 50th Anniversay Releases
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Topic: The Beatles Abbey Road 50th Anniversay Releases
Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Subject: The Beatles Abbey Road 50th Anniversay Releases
Date Posted: August 12 2019 at 06:02
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Just in case anyone missed the news: |
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 12 2019 at 06:08
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More money to spend! I've been impressed with the Sgt Pepper and White album reissues so interested to hear this one.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: August 12 2019 at 10:17
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No thanks, already own it. ------------- |
Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: August 12 2019 at 10:24
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How come, it is not released until September? |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 12 2019 at 14:31
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Although it is a great album. Can't we listen to something other than geriatric muzak for the millionth time? |
Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: August 12 2019 at 15:01
Don't you mean timeless music?
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Grumpyprogfan wrote:Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 12 2019 at 15:13
| Will it be played in one thousand years if the earth still spins? |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 12 2019 at 15:21
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As Barbu said......no thanks...already own it.....and to be honest it pisses me off a little that the music companies keep re-releasing these things just to make a buck. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: August 13 2019 at 01:28
Not at all, you can still purchase the original rerelease. This has been remasterd to the very highest standards and includes never heard before material. To a Beatles fan it's a no brainer. Just a sampler |
Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: August 13 2019 at 01:30
No doubt it will, it hasn't done bad for the last 50 years compared to most modern music which has a lifespan of a few days/weeks if that.
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Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: August 13 2019 at 12:47
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Very suprised that more are not excited by this release as are complaining about it here? |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 13 2019 at 12:53
Fan is short for 'fanatic'...I like The Beatles but I'm not a fanatic. I do own all the original albums and cd's...but...... again these things get released imho because the record co's need an excuse to 'fleece' fans. That's just my 2 cents. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: August 13 2019 at 12:59
How are they fleecing by releasing never heard before material and a new master, when the originals are still available, you have me confused, you either purchase this version or you do not simple really..............or do you not understand that for some strange reason?
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: August 13 2019 at 13:38
Seriously, even if it's the diminutive of the word, no one thinks 'fanatic' (excessive and single-minded zeal) when they read 'fan'. I'm a music fan, I love music. I'm an ice-hockey fan, I love the game. I'm a Pawn Hearts fan, I love how Hammill is squealing and wailing on that record. I'm a Beatles fan but I surely won't buy another version of Abbey Road. ------------- |
Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: August 13 2019 at 13:41
| I may as well buy it only this time don't leave it with a Beatles fan who I thought I had a chance with! |
Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: August 13 2019 at 14:04
For what reason?
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: August 13 2019 at 15:35
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^ The only time I buy those (super) deluxe editions is when they contain a good quality live concert (crime of the century, who's next or songs from the wood for instance). Alternative takes, some unreleased bonus tracks and a new mix is not an enough good reason for a rebuy afaic. ------------- |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 13 2019 at 16:01
Oh...well I din't know it was completely 'new material'...that of course makes a difference. So what are the new songs we have never heard before...just curious?  ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 13 2019 at 16:03
Well..there ya go...we agree on that.  ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 13 2019 at 17:59
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"Abbey Road" is in my opinion the weakest release of the Beatles in their "serious" phase (meaning "Rubber Soul" and anything that followed). I never liked that album much. the two best tracks are the George Harrison contributions (and those I really love) -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: August 14 2019 at 01:02
They are not new songs as you already know but alternate takes and outtakes that sound fantastic. The Album it's self has been remasterd/remixed to the very highest standards. You say your a fan not a fanatic, well most fans I know can't wait for this release! Just curious, why post how much you will not be purchasing this release on a thread dedicated to it? You still have the original as you say so why bother or is it you just like to argue the toss? One more question how are fans being fleeced?
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Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: August 18 2019 at 03:39
Looks like Let It Be also is getting a makeover. |
Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: August 22 2019 at 13:50
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Feck me one of the most important Albums in the history of music and next to no interest apart from negative comments, come on guys? |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 22 2019 at 14:16
My uncle just ordered one  That’s positive! On a more serious note: I really dig this album but am with most of the guys here. I could never understand why anyone would buy an album they already own...unless it contains new material or a live gig....or maybe if one is switching from vinyls to cds or vice versa. Sure if the original album was mastered poorly, I’d be all over it, but the original Abbey Road sounds just lovely to these ears. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: August 23 2019 at 01:21
The original does sound great, but I have heard the new mix of Something, and it is stunning. Also those interested in alternate takes (new material) that have never been heard before will I am sure be all over this.
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Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: August 24 2019 at 12:08
No one................unbelievable?  |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 24 2019 at 12:49
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There comes a point when one is just beating a dead horse. I like the Beatles, but not enough to want to buy more albums, unless I find vintage copies (preferably signed) at a garage sale and the like. I'm not a seller, but I do like to collect antiquarian books and vinyl rarities. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: August 24 2019 at 14:38
Your telling me. One of the most important reissues in music history and no one here is interested.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 24 2019 at 15:26
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There have been so many re-issues of it, but even if it's the best, its still going to be thought of by some as just another re-issue and money grab. If life as we know it still exists, perhaps the 75th and 100th anniversary one will beat it, but then maybe humanity will experience music in a very different way then (through ports in our heads, but those might well be mostly used for porn). ;) Chopper seemed interested to me. I was looking at a dedicated Beatles forum, and even there not everyone was interested. Perhaps if the reviews come in, and the music historians have chimed in on the historical significance of this re-issue on BBC radio and in the Sunday Times and the like, more will get interested. I have no idea what re-issues are considered most important, or will be remembered as most important decades down the road. I do have more of an idea when t comes to the original releases (albums like Coltranes a Love Supreme and Giant Steps, Charles Mingus' The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady, Bob Dylan's Highway 61 Revisited, the Beatles' Abbey Road, Miles Davis' Kind of Blue, The Velvet Underground & Nico, Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, Donovan's Sunshine Superman, Simon & Garfunkel's Sounds of Silence, Leonard Cohen's Songs of Leonard Cohen, The Shagg's Philosophy of the World etc. various of which could make such a list). This might make for an interesting topic, what have been considered the most important re-issues in music history and/or what do individuals find most important? The ones that have been most important to me have been rarities -- albums that had very limited releases at first, but then were re-discovered often thanks to interest generated by the internet, which led to companies re-releasing them. If the "bonus" material is of high standard and were unreleased, then I might be interested in acquiring that. I'm still hoping for a re-issue of an album from the 60s that I lost to a flood. I could buy the original used, but couldn't afford it at this time. Anyway, perhaps future historians will judge the significance of this re-release very kindly, and the release date of this re-release will be remembered as a very significant moment in the history of music, but I think I'm being hyperbolic (they've been coming out with similar products already, I think). I doubt that a great many of the non-super fans, and those without much disposable income, will be purchasing this and drooling over it. But who knows? I expect that it will sell quite well and the label won't be complaining "You Never Give Me Your Money". Now it The Rutles release a 50th anniversary box-set, that I probably would purchase. I'll be forever grateful to the Beatles for inspiring the Rutles (as well as many others). ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: August 24 2019 at 15:51
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I'm tempted to get it if the prices are reasonable... Sometimes you have to buy the super expensive vinyl set to get all the digital bonuses which annoys me. Or if they've got the bonuses on Spotify like they do for Sgt. Peppers, I'd give them a listen. Personally, I think it's worthwhile to hear early versions of songs and different mixes - gives you insight into how the music was created. We've got to remember that a song is not just a single 3 minute (or 10 minute or 20 minute...) performance; it's something that was developed through hours of work. It's kind of neat to hear the story of the music in that way. Honestly, at some point the record companies ought to just sell the isolated tracks to the songs... not so great for the average Joe, but for nerds like me (i.e. the ones buying expanded versions of albums) it can be really insightful. ------------- https://borealkinship.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My prog band - Boreal Kinship |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 28 2019 at 03:53
I'll probably buy it at some point (although maybe wait for Amazon to sell it a bit cheaper as they did with the recent White album reissue). I'm a bit of a Beatles obsessive and find listening to the outtakes and different versions interesting, although they're not something I'd play all that often. I can understand why people might not be interested as Abbey Road sounds pretty good anyway and it's an expensive release but it's not really aimed at the casual Fabs fan. The recent Giles Martin releases have been good on the whole, although I disagree with a couple of things he's done (Harrison's counting on Within You Without You seems to have been removed and Lennon's gibberish at the end of I'm So Tired has been mixed right down). Definite improvement in the sound without altering too much. Good Morning Good Morning really kicks serious butt now.
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Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: September 28 2019 at 02:26
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Recieved my Vinyl Deluxe edition yesterday and it is truly stunning. https://s1285.photobucket.com/user/tele19621/media/abbey%20road%20three_zpsjt7s4ida.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 29 2019 at 14:05
You are on the wrong site to discuss this Beatles reissue, this site is not about sound quality, remastering/remixing quality. Talking about the meticulous nature a music engineer took to create a wonderful reissue from say the original master tapes to create something special does not go far here. Majority of listeners here stream from various low-fi sources like Youtube, Spotify or iTunes and such and listen on their phones or thru laptop speakers. It's not a problem as this site is about music and not about the quality of sound. You are much better off going to for example Steve Hoffman Forums where sound quality is much higher up the discussion chain. I am sure there are several threads there about the 50th anniversary reissue. I just saw one that was started on Aug 8th and has over 6,000 replies and more than 500,000 views. Here is the link https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/abbey-road-50th-contents-outtakes-and-sound-quality-thread-only.868398/" rel="nofollow - https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/abbey-road-50th-contents-outtakes-and-sound-quality-thread-only.868398/ Have fun......... -------------   
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 29 2019 at 15:11
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Totally comptentuous and arrogant comment...Had to look again who was writing this since for a moment I thought I was reading a post from Mosh the Pure (and I avoid reading him as much as I can). ------------- |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 29 2019 at 15:28
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Sometimes the truth does sting a bit...........it's ok. I like Mosh man -------------
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Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: September 29 2019 at 16:33
???
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Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: September 29 2019 at 16:36
But surely there are some who are interested in music (aren't we all ) and hearing it at the best quality available even here. You even have a thread dedicated to tech and getting the best sound we can, so your comment is a bit null and void: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=18
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 29 2019 at 16:41
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Just got the remix CD. I’m not in the habit of re-purchasing classic albums, and I don’t get much use out of demos and bonus tracks, but I’d heard good things about the new mix so went for the $13 CD. It’s Abbey frickin Road, after all. Haven’t compared to the orig but I do hear some (good) differences. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 29 2019 at 16:55
We are all into music yes 100%!! But not everyone is into investing the time and money to hear the music in the best sound quality possible, that is a personal choice on how you want to listen to music. All I am saying is if you want the conversation to be about sound quality, there are other sites that have that focus, as well as in depth discussions about particular releases and the sound quality of them. The Tech section here is mainly about instruments, very little about say audio gear/hi fi gear and such. There have been a few of us here that discussed audio gear and how it helps us hear the music we love in a different more satisfying way....but again this site is about music, not the sonic quality of music media and audio gear. I mean how many people in your post want to discuss the sonic quality of this 50th anniversary release? I would but I don't like the Beatles  , so moot point for me. Enjoy your album, I have read its pretty good, there is a hi-end audio gear store near Seattle that is having an unboxing hearing session of the album next week, the record will be played on a $100K audio system.....I bet it will sound brilliant!-------------
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 29 2019 at 22:48
The Avy and the statement must be consequent dude. but maybe we'll have to drive southwest, knock on his door, and politely ask him to change it? ------------- |
Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: September 29 2019 at 23:23
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To be fair, this release is a remix, so you don't necessarily need to invest thousands into your sound equipment to be able to hear subtle differences like you would with a remaster. Haven't listened to this particular remix, but typically the differences are significant enough that you can hear them with basic equipment. Then again, a lot of people here don't seem to differentiate between remixes and remasters. ------------- https://borealkinship.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My prog band - Boreal Kinship |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 29 2019 at 23:35
As long as it's not a House, Hip-Hop or other such type remix.... ;) ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 30 2019 at 05:27
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It’s similar to what Steven Wilson did to the Tull, ELP etc albums - reimagining the sonic space while staying true to the spirit of the original. Improving things where appropriate. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: September 30 2019 at 23:03
Well if it was, we'd really be able to tell the difference on our phone speakers! ------------- https://borealkinship.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My prog band - Boreal Kinship |
Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 13:57
Yes you do not need expensive equipment to enjoy this remix/remaster it is just superb. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 01 2019 at 15:42
Go find an audio store near you and bring the album with you, I am sure they will let you spin it. Sit down and fully focus on the music and then report back what you really hear. As long as you pick a system that is higher end than what you currently have. Expensive equipment is subjective topic.....but to hear an "expensive system" is pretty ear opening. Nobody is expecting you to purchase the gear. -------------
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Posted By: Sgt Pepper
Date Posted: October 02 2019 at 00:32
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[/QUOTE] Go find an audio store near you and bring the album with you, I am sure they will let you spin it. Sit down and fully focus on the music and then report back what you really hear. As long as you pick a system that is higher end than what you currently have. Expensive equipment is subjective topic.....but to hear an "expensive system" is pretty ear opening. Nobody is expecting you to purchase the gear. [/QUOTE] I have heard many systems costing in excess of £50,000 some great some I think why. I have also heard a good part of The Beatles material in studio 2 @ Abbey Road, that was mind blowing.
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Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: October 05 2019 at 18:54
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Looks like the 2019 release is officially on YouTube (or at least 40 songs worth of it, not sure if there's more material in a physical edition. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k2JcEE3_maNjnVBKU2s1JjhaZ4rxwgaME" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k2JcEE3_maNjnVBKU2s1JjhaZ4rxwgaME Haven't had a chance to listen to the entire thing, so I'm not sure if there are any particularly interesting bonus tracks here. Some alternate takes and instrumental mixes there, though. Personally, the new mix isn't to my taste compared to the old one, but it's interesting to hear some of the different elements that are brought out. ------------- https://borealkinship.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My prog band - Boreal Kinship |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 06 2019 at 08:50
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Just had a listen on Spotify, like the others it's a general tweak rather than a major overhaul, perhaps a slight change to the balance here and there, some keyboards brought up in the mix a bit. Interesting to hear the original version of the medley with "Her Majesty" in it's original position.
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