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Topic: Top five of 2019
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Subject: Top five of 2019
Date Posted: November 09 2019 at 17:46
What are you top five of the year?

Thieves' Kitchen - Genius Loci
Thank You Scientist- Terraformer
Richard Henshall - The Cocoon
Marco Minnemann - My Sister
The Psychedelic Ensemble - Mother's Rhymes

Also, are your 2019 top five better than your top five of 1979?



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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 09 2019 at 19:43
Lost Crowns - Every night Something Happens
ni - Pantophobie
Elephant9 - Psychedelic Backfire II
PoiL - Sus
October Equus - Presagio
Yazz Ahmed - Polyhymnia
The Comet Is Coming - Trust In The Lifeforce Of The Deep Mystery
Ikarus - Mosaicmic
Akku Quintet - Depart
Emme Phyzema - s/t


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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 10 2019 at 08:05
1. THIEVES' KITCHEN Genius Loci

2. THE LOOMINGS Hey, Weirdo!

3. THE TEA CLUB If / When

4. BENT KNEE You Know What They Mean

5. THE PSYCHEDELIC ENSEMBLE Mother's Tales



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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: November 10 2019 at 08:10
Let's see:

1979:  Bruford - One of a Kind
2019:  Dream Theater - Distance Over Time
1979:  Kansas - Monolith
2019:  Soen - Lotus
1979:  Jethro Tull - Stormwatch
2019:  Steve Hackett - At the Edge of Light
2019:  The Neal Morse Band - The Great Adventure
1979:  Dixie Dregs - Night of the Living Dregs
2019:  Flying Colors - Third Degree
1979:  U.K. - Danger Money

Looks pretty even overall!


Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: November 10 2019 at 08:52

1- Lee Abraham- Comatose

2- Chasing the Monsoon- No Ordinary World

3- IQ- Resistance

4- Aliante-Sul Confine

5- Drifting Sun- Planet Junkie



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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 10 2019 at 09:44
Here is a link showing some of the 1979 releases. Let me know if you think 2019 or 1979 releases are stronger or weaker.

http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&syears=1979&scountries=&sminratings=0&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=50&y=1#list" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&syears=1979&scountries=&sminratings=0&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=50&y=1#list


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 10 2019 at 10:16
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Lost Crowns - Every night Something Happens
ni - Pantophobie
Elephant9 - Psychedelic Backfire II
PoiL - Sus
October Equus - Presagio
Yazz Ahmed - Polyhymnia
The Comet Is Coming - Trust In The Lifeforce Of The Deep Mystery
Ikarus - Mosaicmic
Akku Quintet - Depart
Emme Phyzema - s/t

'79
Henry Cow - Western Culture
Univers Zero - Heresie
Aksak Maboul - Un Peu de l'Ame des Bandits
Art Zoyd - Musique Pour L'Odyssee
Tangerine Dream - Force Majeure
Art Bears - Winter Songs
Motorhead - Overkill
AC/DC - Highway To Hell

Think I'll take '79





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Posted By: Homotopy
Date Posted: November 10 2019 at 13:29
Neal Morse (Adventure)
Sebkha Chott
Disillusion
Poil
Aaand Cheeto's Magazine I guess? 

Comparing to 79 seems pointless for me as I've listented to ten times more albums of 2019 than of 1979.


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 10 2019 at 14:54
Originally posted by Homotopy Homotopy wrote:

Comparing to 79 seems pointless for me as I've listented to ten times more albums of 2019 than of 1979.

Congratulations. You listen to current music more than the classics. That kind of was the point. Most members here are stuck in the past and listen to the same stuff over and over. It's reflected in the threads.

It's cool to know that maybe 5% on this site listen and realize that today's music is as good or better than 4 or 5 decades ago.




Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 10 2019 at 15:05
I buy a ton of new music, your poll proves nothing of the sort, both eras have good music.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 10 2019 at 15:23
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Homotopy Homotopy wrote:

Comparing to 79 seems pointless for me as I've listented to ten times more albums of 2019 than of 1979.

Congratulations. You listen to current music more than the classics. That kind of was the point. Most members here are stuck in the past and listen to the same stuff over and over. It's reflected in the threads.

It's cool to know that maybe 5% on this site listen and realize that today's music is as good or better than 4 or 5 decades ago.



I disagree. As far as the big name old bands like Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis, ELP, Camel, King Crimson, GG etc that might be true but the more obscure newer bands(which is most of them)get a lot more exposure than the obscure bands of the old days. Aside from one guy on here obsessed with a german keyboard led band(I won't mention his name or the band)most of the lesser known older stuff takes a backseat to newer prog. However, I should mention that anything before 2010 can be considered older. Stuff gets forgotten pretty quickly in the prog world(imo). 


Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 10 2019 at 16:11
I'm not even sure I listened to 5 albums from this year Wacko

Grand Tour - Big Big Train
Infest the Rats Nest - King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard
In Caude Venenum - Opeth

I do remember liking that bent knee album but I have to listen more.

Resistance by IQ was alright, probably worth a revisit but I don't get the hype necessarily.

After seeing a couple people mention thieves kitchen I'm now on a mission to hear that. Should I expect a similar sound to Anglagard based on the lineup?


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 10 2019 at 16:38
^^ Totally different sound than Anglagard. You may be pleased.


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: November 10 2019 at 16:42
Thieves Kitchen do not sound at all like Anglagard. On the other hand, they have a certain Canterbury vibe which I like a lot. They are an excellent band, not easy to label.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 10 2019 at 23:57
IQ - Resistance
Steve Hackett - At The Edge Of Light
In Continuum - Acceleration Theory
Elbow - Giants Of All Sizes
Magic Pie - Fragments Of The 5th Element

1979
Tangerine Dream - Force Majeure
Supertramp - Breakfast In America
UK - Danger Money
Edgar Froese - Stuntman
Eloy - Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes

Feels 'cheating' a bit to include electronic releases but Force Majeure is Tangerine Dreams most 'proggy' album and had a real drummer! Edgar's solo album is a bona fide classic of the genre. RIP Edgar you are very much missed.

I've also cheated including Elbow but this is a fantastic album and is 'prog' in my opinion.

Not sure I can decide which year is better in terms of top five at the moment. If you wrestled me to the ground and pinned me down and only let me up if I give an answer then its 1979.



Posted By: friso
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 02:47
My favorites are IQ - Resistance and Isuldurs Bane with Peter Hammill - In Amazonia

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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 05:30
I'm still listening to the 2019 releases. I don't think I can make a decision on the top 5 yet until the year is over.
Possible groups that might make it include IZZ, IQ, Aliante, Cheeto's Magazine, Conqueror, Czyszy, Los Exploradores, Finisterre, Goblin... and I see I already have more than five... oy!


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 06:25
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

What are you top five of the year?

Thieves' Kitchen - Genius Loci
Thank You Scientist- Terraformer
Richard Henshall - The Cocoon
Marco Minnemann - My Sister
The Psychedelic Ensemble - Mother's Rhymes

Also, are your 2019 top five better than your top five of 1979?
 
Thank You Scientist is my number one. 2 and 3 are IZZ and Opeth, not sure I have any more.


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 06:53
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I buy a ton of new music, your poll proves nothing of the sort, both eras have good music.
 
Most votes so far in this poll state 79 had better music

The link below says it all.
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=120552" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=120552


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 07:11
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Most members here are stuck in the past and listen to the same stuff over and over. It's reflected in the threads. 

It's cool to know that maybe 5% on this site listen and realize that today's music is as good or better than 4 or 5 decades ago.

You state your position as the majority of members here don't listen to new music and of those that do only 5% realize the truth that today's music is better.

I call BS on this. Most members listen to plenty of new music, by our very nature we are always looking for new music. I'd posit that people find plenty of good new music, they just prefer the music from the past.


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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 07:20
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I call BS on this. Most members listen to plenty of new music, by our very nature we are always looking for new music. I'd posit that people find plenty of good new music, they just prefer the music from the past.
 
Hard to discuss anything with a man in a apron and a pan on his head.




Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 14:26
Heard almost 200 new releases this year, top-6 gonna be:

Slipknot - We Are Not Your Kind
Wheel - Moving Backwards
FKA twigs - Magdalene
Swans - Leaving Meaning
Elbow - Giants of All Sizes
DIIV - Deceiver

Top-6 from 1979:

Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
Univers Zero - Heresie
Atlas - Bla Vardag
UK - Danger Money
Eloy - Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes
Tangerine Dream - Force Majeure

Yeah Imma take 1979 please, keep the change, thank you


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 14:27
Thanks for the comments. Looks like 79 was a better musical year for most. 

I'll take 2019, by far.

For 1979 I would choose...

Bill Bruford One of a Kind
UK Danger Money
Joe Jackson Look Sharp
Elvis Costello and the Attractions Armed Forces
Frank Zappa Joe's Garage Act's I, II and III


Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 06:05
Can't decide yet, there's a few that I haven't listened to yet, but likely to be:

Cellar Darling
Hevy Devy
Mostly Autumn
Marillion
Avantasia


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 06:23
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Most members here are stuck in the past and listen to the same stuff over and over. It's reflected in the threads. 

It's cool to know that maybe 5% on this site listen and realize that today's music is as good or better than 4 or 5 decades ago.

You state your position as the majority of members here don't listen to new music and of those that do only 5% realize the truth that today's music is better.

I call BS on this. Most members listen to plenty of new music, by our very nature we are always looking for new music. I'd posit that people find plenty of good new music, they just prefer the music from the past.
 
absolutely, most members know by heart the classics, and don't feel the urge to revisit  them. For ex, I'm not sure whether I pulled one out from the big 7 or 9, except that Crimson still being active, I surely heard some classic stuff in the recent live renditions.
 
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1979 (no particular order)
Aqsak Maboul - Un Peu de l'Âme des Bandits
Breche - Carapace et chair tendre
Errobi - Ametsaren Bidea
Faithfull, Marianne - Broken English
Flamen Dialis - Symptome-Dei
Haizea - Hontz Gaua
Itoiz - Ezekiel
Galt MacDermot & Jerome Ragni - Hair (OST)
Marino & Mahogany Rush - Tales of the Unexpected
Moondog A New Sound of an Old Instrument
Tangerine Dream - Force Majeure
Univers Zero - Heresie
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Live Rust
Aquarelle - Live a Montreux
Art Zoyd - Musique Pour l'Odyssee
Asia Minor - Crossing the Line
Booz, Emmanuel - Dans Quel Etat J'Erre
Clash - London Calling
Conventum - Le Bureau Central des Utopies
Etoifilan - Etoifilan
Hackett - Spectral Mornings
Lisker - Lisker
Maneige - Composite
Carlos Santana - Oneness, Silver Dreams Golden Reality
Þursaflokkur Thursabit
Pat Travers Band Live! Go For What You Know
Vortex - Les Cycles De Thanatos
Zappa, Frank - Sleep Dirt
ZZ Top - Deguello


As for the current year : first draft (no order as of yet)
The Comet Is Coming - Trust in the lifeforce....
Elephant9 with Reine Fiske- Psychedelic Backfire II
Cykada-s/t
The Wrong Object- Into the Herd
Jordsjø – Nattfiolen
Magma Zess
Yokaï – s/t
Ikarus – Mosaismic
Supersister - Retsis Repus
Panzerpappa - Summarisk Suite
Yazz Ahmed - Polyhymnia
Ghost Rhythms - Live at Yoshiwara
October Equus - Presagios
Isildurs Bane and Peter Hammill - In Amazonia
Rustin Man - Drift Code
Graham Costello's Strata - Obelisk
Spacious Mind - No. 4 or 5 Gravy Band
Joe Armon-Jones - Turn To Clear View
Sure Fire Soul Ensemble – Build Bridges
Makaya McCraven - Where We Come From (Chicago X London Mixtape)
Ill Considered - Live at Total Refreshment Centre
Vannier & Patton - Crystal Corpses
Ezra Collective - You Can't Steal my joy.
Nerija - Blume
Ghost Funk Orchestra -A Song For Paul
De Loreans - s/t


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 07:12
Current ranking. Le Grand Sbam coming out next month is probably getting one of these spots, maybe the top.

1. The Pheumatic Transit - Chordae Tendinae
2. ni - Pantophobie
3. Consider The Source - You Are Literally A Metaphor
4. Helium Horse Fly - Hollowed
5. Tracteur - Tracteur


1979 was a pretty sad year for prog. Few of my favorites put out anything worthwhile. Even with the downturn this year has seen overall, it still beats 79 in my book. Only the top 2 get regular listens.

1. Bill Bruford - One of a Kind
2. Kitaro- Oasis
3. Frank Zappa - Joe's Garage
4. Steve Hackett - Spectral Mornings
5. Banco - Canto di Primavera

When I was a teen The Wall would have been on this list. But as the years passed, the sparkle has definitely worn off.

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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: December 05 2019 at 08:55
Best Albums of 2019:

Big Big Train Grand Tour
Neal Morse Band The Great Adventure
Pattern-Seeking Animals s/t
The Flower Kings Waiting For Miracles
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso Transiberiana

Best Albums of 1979

XTC Drums & Wires
The Clash London Calling
Gang Of Four Entertainment!
Wire 154
Talking Heads Fear Of Music

(1979 was one of the best years ever!!!)


Posted By: Anstey
Date Posted: December 06 2019 at 02:25
Not in any particular order


2019

Gong The Universe Also Collapses
Thieves' Kitchen Genius Loci
IQ Resistance
Anthony Phillips Strings of Light
Julius Vanderbilt's Heavy Water Heavy Water




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1979

Jethro Tull Stormwatch
Steve Hillage Open
UK Danger Money
True Myth True Myth
Supetramp Breakfast in America











Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: December 06 2019 at 04:35
From what I have listened so far:

IQ- Resistance
Cheeto's Magazine - Amazingous
Big Big Train - Grand Tour
The Psychedelic Ensemble - Mother's Rhymes
Neal Morse - The Great Adventure

1979

PF - The Wall
UK - Danger Money
Bruford - One of a Kind
Crack - Si Todo Hiciera Crack
Hackett - Spectral Mornings



Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: December 06 2019 at 08:16
Originally posted by Anstey Anstey wrote:

Not in any particular order


2019

Gong The Universe Also Collapses
Thieves' Kitchen Genius Loci
IQ Resistance
Anthony Phillips Strings of Light
Julius Vanderbilt's Heavy Water Heavy Water




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1979

Jethro Tull Stormwatch
Steve Hillage Open
UK Danger Money
True Myth True Myth
Supetramp Breakfast in America










The new Gong LP is so good!!! Why aren't people talking about it?


Posted By: emisan
Date Posted: December 15 2019 at 15:19
Till now:

1. The Great Adventure - Neal Morse
2. Precipice - Steve Unruh
3. Nattfiolen - Jordsjø
4. Toki No Kaze - The Samurai Of Prog
5. Grand Tour - Big Big Train
6. Seul Ensemble - Serge Fiori
7. Echoes From Within Dragon Island - Karfagen
8. In Cauda Venenum - Opeth
9. Don't Panic - Izz
10. Resistance - IQ


Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: December 15 2019 at 15:53
Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

Originally posted by Anstey Anstey wrote:

Not in any particular order


2019

Gong The Universe Also Collapses
Thieves' Kitchen Genius Loci
IQ Resistance
Anthony Phillips Strings of Light
Julius Vanderbilt's Heavy Water Heavy Water




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1979

Jethro Tull Stormwatch
Steve Hillage Open
UK Danger Money
True Myth True Myth
Supetramp Breakfast in America










The new Gong LP is so good!!! Why aren't people talking about it?

Im guessing because of the lineup... the same reason people wont admit Drama is better than Going For the One


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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: December 15 2019 at 18:39
1979:
1. LAURENT THIBAULT Mais on peut pas rêver tout le temps

2. STEVE HACKETT Spectral Mornings

3. TANGERINE DREAM Force Majeure

4. BRUFORD One of A Kind

5. PEKKA POHJOLA Visitation


2019:

1. THIEVES' KITCHEN Genius Loci

2. FUZZ PUDDLE Speciecide

3. SEVEN STEPS TO THE GREEN DOOR The? Lie

4. FLY PAN AM C'est ça

5. HAMMOCK Silencia



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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: December 16 2019 at 10:36
1979 (from your list):
1. UK - Danger Money
2. Frank Zappa - Sheik Yerbouti
3. Henry Cow - Western Culture
4. Art Zoyd - Musique Pour L'Odyssee
5. The Residents - Eskimo
 
2019 (at least for now and not in order yet and still working on trying to get that top 5 worked out):
Cheeto's Magazine - Amazingous!
Lost Crowns - Every Night Something Happens
The Mercury Tree - Spidermilk
Devin Townsend - Empath
Emmett Elvin - The End of Music
Bent Knee - You Know What They Mean
A Formal Horse - Here Comes a Man from the Council with a Flamethrower
The Pneumatic Transit - Chordae Tendineae
Fly Pan Am - C'est ca
Thank You Scientist - Terraformer
 


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 16 2019 at 14:58
2019, not in any order

IQ~Resistance
Marillion~Friends/Orchestra
Bent Knee~You Know What They Mean
Flower Kings~Waiting For Miracles (has really grown on me)
Randy McStine~2019 Tour Album


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 16 2019 at 23:42
Does anyone in the UK know where you can pick up a reasonably priced CD of the Thieves Kitchen album? It seems to be cropping up on a lot of lists but Amazon (UK) are asking £26 (inc P&P) for it 'new'. Used I can get it for about £17 but still too expensive (might go for it if it was new)


Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: December 17 2019 at 02:48
1-Klone: Le Grand Voyage,
2-Soen: Lotus,
3-Leprous: Pitfalls,
4-The Tea Club: If/When,
5-Borknagar: True North.

In 1979, i didn't know progressive music. I just discovered hard-rock/heavy-metal. Wink



Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 17 2019 at 03:06
^ Klone: Le Grand Voyage is one of my favorites of 2019

Ray Alder's solo album is another favorite.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 17 2019 at 06:54
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Does anyone in the UK know where you can pick up a reasonably priced CD of the Thieves Kitchen album? It seems to be cropping up on a lot of lists but Amazon (UK) are asking £26 (inc P&P) for it 'new'. Used I can get it for about £17 but still too expensive (might go for it if it was new)

I did the obvious thing and ordered direct from the band's website. Very easy to do and good price £11 + P&P



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