21st Century Masterpieces? (Part 2)
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Topic: 21st Century Masterpieces? (Part 2)
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Subject: 21st Century Masterpieces? (Part 2)
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 06:50
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Of these 17 "masterpiece" albums (which currently reside in the PA All-Time Top 100), are there any that you believe are not deserving of their place among the greatest progressive rock albums of all-time? You may, of course, vote for more than one. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 07:00
| IQ, Tool, Magma, PT - Fear, and Opeth don't belong. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 07:05
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the new IQ album |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 07:10
I only know two of those albums, so I can't vote. 
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 07:34
| Both entries each from Wilson/Porc/Opeth. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 08:01
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This is probably at odds with most folks, but I feel that only Anglagard, IQ's Roll the Bones, and Wobbler are worthy of top 100. I'm on the edge about Magma's K.A. and All Traps on Earth. The rest of the albums listed wouldn't make my personal top 100. I actually like Opeth's later albums better, but I'm weird like that. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Foxprog
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 08:16
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Masterpieces and worthy of top 100 - Ghost reveries - Blackwater park Almost masterpieces and maybe worthy of top 100 - Hand cannot erase - Fear of a blank planet - K.A. - Viljans öga |
Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 09:16
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Wobbler and Dream Theater ------------- Z |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 09:24
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Ah, you changed it up here. This is a lot of meh in my book for a lot of different reasons. The only ones that I would even consider masterpieces are Magma and All Traps. Metropolis is the best album in an otherwise tiresome discography. The POS and Opeth albums are kind of middle of the road in a discography I mostly enjoy. Wobbler is good, but not great. The rest....wow, how do I pick the least deserving? Many of these could be the soundtrack to my stay in Hell. Considering the newness of IQ - Resistance, that is in a special category as it has yet to face the test of time. Steve Wilson's albums have never connected with me in any regard. But the one that really chaps my hide is Tool. All of there albums/songs never sound like they ever get anywhere. I'm always wondering when the intro is over and the actual body of the song has arrived. Just.....thin is the only word I can come up with. So they get my vote. Oh, I can vote for more than one...goody. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 09:32
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HCE from this list. ------------- He neither drank, smoked, nor rode a bicycle. Living frugally, saving his money, he died early, surrounded by greedy relatives. It was a great lesson to me -- John Barrymore |
Posted By: Homotopy
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 11:17
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First of all IQ, All Traps and of course Tool (Totally agree with mr. Tapfret on them). At first I looked at poll results and became sad, but then I looked at the poll title and became not sad, lol. |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 11:42
| Wobbler for sure, one of the best albums ever made. |
Posted By: tamijo_II
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 11:53
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Lateralus ------------- Same person as this profile: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22524" rel="nofollow - Tamijo |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 12:11
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Second Life Syndrome, but The Road of Bones, Hand Cannot Erase and From Silence to Somewhere are also really excellent. But I'm amazed that Mostly Autumn's last 2 albums haven't figured. They're both brilliant. Am I the only one who isn't that impressed by Resistance (well, not yet!)? ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 12:44
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The road of bones and the raven with a drop of light. |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 12:44
| Wobbler!!! |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 12:53
My man! |
miamiscot wrote:Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 13:09
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Reminder: the OP's criteria here is "NOT a masterpiece". ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 13:31
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I also misread the OP post....I do think Wobbler belongs.....as well as many of the others....but Pain of Salvation, Dreamtheater, Opeth, Riverside, Tool....don't impress me as being that great. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 14:33
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Haha, the negative question and the fact that negativity is regularly not understood by many makes the results pretty much worthless. In Absentia is the only one of these anywhere near my personal top 100, but that doesn't mean too much, I don't exactly object against a number of others listed here (actually the second one I'd qualify, if I had to pick two, would be Tool) and I don't know all of them, so hard to do a negative vote here. |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 15:29
Should I start the poll over? Do you think some of the votes are for favorites--that people didn't see the negative? I'm gonna let it fly for a while longer . . . . ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 15:44
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I was recently part of a group that wrote questions for a healthcare certification exam. We were told that all questions prefaced in the negative would be thrown out as they are now considered "trick questions" and do not effectively assess the test takers knowledge of the subject. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 16:01
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Viljans Oga (3 stars) Metropolis Scenes From A Memory Part 2 (3 stars) The Road Of Bones (4 stars) Hand.Cannot.Erase (4 stars) There are others I don't know so didn't vote and others like Wobbler and the recent IQ album that need to settle in my mind although I like both. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 16:11
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sheesh.. that is hard to answer.. much easier to answer a question of which of those.. and isn't many.. should even be in the top 100. first vote.. Ghost Reveries.. a stone cold Prog Metal classic.. and one of the few.. that absolutely should be in the top 100 prog albums. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 16:15
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In my opinion, none of them belong in the Top 100. That does non mean they are bad - most of them are at least OK in my book. It's just that there are many other albums I would rather include in an ideal Progressive Rock Top 100. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 16:19
| I suppose the one I'm totally convinced does belong is Lateralus. That felt like something new to my ears and is still original. After that A Drop Of Light but that is still relatively fresh out the box. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 16:25
 as it is easier to ask you here rather than yell at you since we have Ghost of Perdition blasting at full sonic assault levels. how you can deny this album is completely metal.. and f**king first rate prog. Something that many prog-metal albums fail at mixing to great effect.. this is a masterpiece. *I do miss my headbanging emoticon*
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 16:31
| Yeah redo the pull, I accidently just said wobbler doesn’t belong in the top 100, I am now very sad. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 16:32
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^ I'll claim that vote .. thanks! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 17:01
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 17:13
 how many times must I say this... there is no crying in prog.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 17:17
Well atleast we agree on ghost reveries |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 17:30
and that wisdom earns ya a famed and much desired toastie from the Big Mick... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 17:54
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I am not familiar with all the albums on the list, but of the ones I know, I voted against both by Porcupine Tree and SWilson, as well as Tool. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 18:20
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 18:27
| It's a tie between Wobbler's From Silence to Somewhere, and Steven Wilson's The Raven. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 00:13
in terms of the current standing of the poll it isn't 
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[3.42%]Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 00:26
so these two do not belong in that top 100?
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 00:32
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the only ones that I believe do are: Magma, All Traps On Earth, DT, and maybe Remedy Lane. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 05:16
I think him and everyone else are misinterpreting the poll |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 05:27
that's why i was asking, the thread title and the poll question are different things
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 06:10
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I had to go with DT - Metropolis. Purely on the basis that it came out in 1999. But it is a masterpiece, as you all know.....
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 08:13
Thanks for this! Good to know! (Guess I should throw this one out and start over.) ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 12:23
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KA ------------- |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 12:42
so K.A. does not belong in top 100? |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 13:15
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^ Depend on which top 100. The PA one? I never look that list. ------------- |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 13:48
but choosing Magma in the context of this poll, it's like saying it's not a worthy album. Which I bet you don't believe...
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 12 2019 at 14:00
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^ of course, KA is one of my fav from this list and haven't read the question before voting. Incidentally, a quite confusing approach, and one I rarely use. ------------- |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 15 2020 at 11:03
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Wobbler ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: April 15 2020 at 11:22
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Magma again. Edit: Sorry, read the op:s post after voting, I think Magma IS masterpiece!
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