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Topic: Time Travel
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Subject: Time Travel
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 06:51
If you could travel in time only once. What era of music would you travel too?

I would travel 1000 years into the future so I could see if music and earth survived. I would also like to see if the PA top 100 albums were mostly from the 70's still.



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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 06:55
I would be happy just going back 10 years and doing a few things over. I'm not hard to please in that respect. Tongue

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 06:57
I'd like to travel back to the Summer of Love year of 1967, because I was too young to appreciate the music at the time and I never even knew about the Monterey Pop Festival that took place that same year until as late as 2010 when I first went online. Smile


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 07:03
I would go back in time to somewhere between 1723 and 1750 and to Leipzig in space to meet old Bach


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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 07:10
I would travel back to the 1880s to 1890s, to hear the premieres in Europe of some of Bruckner's mature Symphonies (7th and 8th) and, most of all, to hear a youthful Gustav Mahler conduct the premieres of his 1st and 2nd Symphonies!


Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 08:42
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

I would also like to see if the PA top 100 albums were mostly from the 70's still.


LOL

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 09:00
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'd like to travel back to the Summer of Love year of 1967, because I was too young to appreciate the music at the time and I never even knew about the Monterey Pop Festival that took place that same year until as late as 2010 when I first went online. Smile
 
PinchOuchDeadErmm
 
I actually agree with PeePee...ConfusedUnhappy
 
I'm going to have to consult a therapist to see if I'm still sane TongueWink
 
But yeah, I'd probably wish I was born 10 or 15 years sooner to witness Coltrane (and modal jazz in general) and the Frisco scene.
 
Given the actual state of the planet, and the rise of all those frigging Censored nutcases accessing to power, I wouldn't mind too much being 15 years closer to death nowadays, if I trade them for active music listening from 59 to 69.. Geek
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 09:13
Probably late 60s to witness the birth and evolution of prog. Maybe I'll go to London and try to be a part of the movement myself so I can play the kind of music I like without being labelled "Retro-prog".


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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 09:47
I'd go back to Sept 1963 and convince Boris Johnson's father to use a condom.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 10:06
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

I'd go back to Sept 1963 and convince Boris Johnson's father to use a condom.

Wow, that's harsh! 


Anyway, for me it would be 1972/73. I was alive but far to young to appreciate(let alone know about) close to the edge and selling england by the pound so I would see those bands(Yes and Genesis)on their tours around that time.


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 10:25
I would go back to the early 20th century, buy a bunch of stock in a bunch of companies that are going to take off, go back to the future and collect the investment, then go back to 1971 to start a record company, build the best studio in the world, hire the best sound engineers, and sign all the prog bands and let them do whatever they want (including the obscure acts to give them the chance they never had). The investment in Pink Floyd and Yes alone will provide enough money to weather the 1980s and keep prog going through that decade. 

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 10:53
29 May 1913, Theatre des Champs-Elysees, Paris. Witness the maybe hottest premiere in music ever.


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 11:14
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

29 May 1913, Theatre des Champs-Elysees, Paris. Witness the maybe hottest premiere in music ever.

the premiere of Igor Stravinsky's ballet "Le Sacre du Printemps" ("The Rites of Spring) performed by Sergei Diaghilev's Ballets Russes with the choreography of Vaslav Nijinski. probably the biggest scandal in music history, and no, I did not have to look that up; I heard a radio feature about this scandal once, and it is also one of my favorite compositions of all time.

the premiere of Bela Bartok's "A csodálatos mandarin" ("The Miraculous Mandarin") in Cologne, Germany on Nov 27th 1926 does in my opinion come second (regarding biggest musical scandal). Cologne's Lord Mayor at that time, a certain Konrad Adenauer, who later became the first chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany, prohibited further renditions


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Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 11:18
Oh it would have to be January the 1st to New Year's Eve 1967! Your problem how you get day to day, and all safely back to this time you reading this message at the end of it. And even then I'll kick you out and say "No, you went there, I'm just here to make sure you got ok. You did, so piss off."

Yeah! And if you were the me in the above I so would do the Time Schravel Teme!


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 11:34
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:



the premiere of Bela Bartok's "A csodálatos mandarin" ("The Miraculous Mandarin") in Cologne, Germany on Nov 27th 1926 does in my opinion come second (regarding biggest musical scandal).

...and this is also pretty good stuff, but I don't intend to stick around in the past for 13 years through WW1.


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 12:50
I would like to go and See either Handel, Bach, Mozart or Beethoven perform live. 


Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 13:13
Paris in the 1830s for the chance of attending the salons to hear Chopin and Liszt. Meeting George Sand would be icing on the cake...

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 13:16
Just like every thread and post on PA. Ya'll are living in the past. Don't you think there is a chance modern music could be better in 1000 years?


Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 13:18
The good news is we can if we want to . According to Spock's Beard, " Bennett Built a Time Machine" 


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 14:20
Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

I would go back to the early 20th century, buy a bunch of stock in a bunch of companies that are going to take off, go back to the future and collect the investment, then go back to 1971 to start a record company, build the best studio in the world, hire the best sound engineers, and sign all the prog bands and let them do whatever they want (including the obscure acts to give them the chance they never had). The investment in Pink Floyd and Yes alone will provide enough money to weather the 1980s and keep prog going through that decade. 
 
 
How can anyone out-do this one?
 
 


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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 14:21
I'd go back to 1965 ( I was 7 yrs old). I'd tell my younger self to work his a$$ off so he could spend all his money on vinyl LP records. Buy one to play the livin' crap outta and one to archive unopened, I'd tell him his life depended on it, and that he needed to buy the first pressings and as many Vertigo Swirl labels as he could get his hands on. I'd explain that he will be the envy of all his friends... (ok, male friends. but whatever). Then I would give him a list of artists to secure and unique package releases to obtain.  I'd grow old knowing life is GOOD.




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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 14:29
I just realised there's a couple of major snags with going back in time to 1967 if I can't go Back to the Future. First of all, I'd have another 17 years to wait for CD's to be invented, and secondly, I'd have a very lengthy 38 years to wait for ProgArchives and YouTube to come along. All things considered then, I'd rather be right here, right now. Smile


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 14:59
The only snag with traveling in time is you can't stay long or things would get weird.


Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 15:13
I Would go back in time and tell myself to buy Shares in microsoft....simples

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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 15:48
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

I'd go back to Sept 1963 and convince Boris Johnson's father to use a condom.

Wow, that's harsh! 


Harsh? Yes - but fair.


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 17:08
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Just like every thread and post on PA. Ya'll are living in the past. Don't you think there is a chance modern music could be better in 1000 years?

With good chances to be dead in an instant when getting out of the time machine? Thanks but no thanks!

In fact I'd be very interested in witnessing the first time any person consciously used something as a musical instrument, played for an audience for the first time, a group played something consciously composed for the first time etc. Unfortunately these are too imprecise in all likelihood for the time machine to make sense of them. 


Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 17:38
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Just like every thread and post on PA. Ya'll are living in the past. Don't you think there is a chance modern music could be better in 1000 years?


There's so much music that's been created in the past 1000 years that I have yet to discover, plus whatever music will be released in my lifetime. I'm honestly not that interested in adding another 1000 years of music to explore when I've barely scratched the surface of what's out there currently.


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Posted By: judahbenkenobi
Date Posted: November 21 2019 at 21:57
Time machine? My real problem is not the time I was born, but the place where I was born! God bless my dear old folks


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 22 2019 at 00:38
We can all travel back in time in a metaphorical sense, just by re-discovering long-lost album treasures from years gone by on ProgArchives and YouTube. Smile


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 22 2019 at 01:26
in a 1000 years the world will be ash so I'm not keen on that idea.

I would go back to see ELP playing Pictures At An Exhibition at Newcastle City Hall in March 1971


Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 22 2019 at 02:47
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

in a 1000 years the world will be ash so I'm not keen on that idea.

I would go back to see ELP playing Pictures At An Exhibition at Newcastle City Hall in March 1971

I was there. The only time I saw ELP. It was good, but not in my top 20 gigs.


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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: November 22 2019 at 03:23
Perhaps to the late eighties when people were dumping their vinyl's for bottom prices.

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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 22 2019 at 04:16
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

I'd go back to Sept 1963 and convince Boris Johnson's father to use a condom.


Oh that's good.  That's very goodHug

Then back a little further to Trump Senior.....


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 22 2019 at 05:26
Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

I would go back to the early 20th century, buy a bunch of stock in a bunch of companies that are going to take off, go back to the future and collect the investment, then go back to 1971 to start a record company, build the best studio in the world, hire the best sound engineers, and sign all the prog bands and let them do whatever they want (including the obscure acts to give them the chance they never had). The investment in Pink Floyd and Yes alone will provide enough money to weather the 1980s and keep prog going through that decade. 
 
 
How can anyone out-do this one?
 
 
They can't. But if time travel were really possible then I'm sure it be first on everyone's list, along with many other sure fire stock investments like IBM, Apple and Viagra.

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 22 2019 at 05:56
Hi,

Weird ... I have a lot of "favorites" and all that but me going to spend time with the Amon Duul commune? Not even stoned immaculate! Me going back to watch the girls get frisked at the Rathskeller the same week that a student was shot in Ohio? Me sharing a small apartment with Space Pirate Radio's Guy Guden in its early days? (lots of fun there!).

I saw a lot of "big names" in the arts ... maybe the only thing I wish for is not a time travel, but that people can see and watch how nice and valuable all these folks and arts were at the time, and how so ignored and wasted they are looked at today ... Yehudi Menuhin and Ravi Shankar is one. Tangerine Dream at the Greek Theater with the trees getting lit up by the lasers (picture on the Encore album!!!) would be something worth reliving and enjoying, but I would rather have Edgar Froese having tea and crumpets with us, than have to live a memory lane stuff that is ... very depressing for me.

I would like to see one last thing ... more respect from the commercial side of things for the rest of the arts ... all of them are suffering horribly in America, and have been a laughing stock since a couple of presidents some 40 years ago started removing as much money from the arts as they could ... the reason why? Almost all of the arts were handled by "liberal" folks and used on a couple of networks well known for trashing some really big _________ (use your own!) folks ... 

Sometimes I think that too few people (other than this thread ... wow ... thanks everyone) have as much appreciation for rock music as they do classical and more importantly, the history of music and the arts ... not the hysterectomy and killing of the frog in our own hearts!


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 22 2019 at 06:21
If I had a time machine I'd fly sideways through time just for the sheer hell of it.

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 22 2019 at 10:40
^ You're inner Stephen Hawking is showing. Its good to still see you around these parts.

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 22 2019 at 21:53
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

If I had a time machine I'd fly sideways through time just for the sheer hell of it.

And bring us the movie, please ... a la Terry Gilliam?


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 22 2019 at 23:07
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

If I had a time machine I'd fly sideways through time just for the sheer hell of it.

And bring us the movie, please ... a la Terry Gilliam?
Since Captain Bob never wrote a script it would have to be based upon this, which wasn't that great tbh:



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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 23 2019 at 00:28
Apart from maybe going back in time to use my knowledge of the past's future to improve my life in some way, I wouldn't use the time machine to simply experience another time. I have little interest in the past, and the future scares me.
 
 
 


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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: November 23 2019 at 01:38
I'd set my flux capacitor for January 1, 1972, and enjoy that year first hand!

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 23 2019 at 02:03
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

I'd set my flux capacitor for January 1, 1972, and enjoy that year first hand!
I did, it was sh*t.

Time travel is notoriously problematic for many reasons so to be able to enjoy 1972 again what you have to do is turn back time, like Superman did in Superman 2. Of course that to do that all you have to do is fly around the globe really quickly.


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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: November 25 2019 at 14:06
Yeah, I'm all in for a trip back to 1972. Or 1973. I'm not picky.


Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: November 25 2019 at 18:31
I'm hoping to live long enough to see three corner hats come back into style. When will that be?

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 25 2019 at 22:16
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

I'm hoping to live long enough to see three corner hats come back into style. When will that be?
The way our respective governments want to suppress the working classes, sooner than you'd think. It won't be long before we'll be seeing the return of rickets, child labour and, yep, tricorn hats.


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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: November 25 2019 at 22:34
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

I'm hoping to live long enough to see three corner hats come back into style. When will that be?

The way our respective governments want to suppress the working classes, sooner than you'd think. It won't be long before we'll be seeing the return of rickets, child labour and, yep, tricorn hats.
Hmm... I envisioned an enlightened Star Trek thing with guys on a starship stylishly wearing three corner hats, but I think you're right. It'll probably be a distopian thing more like the movie Alien with corporations owning everyone's butt.






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Posted By: MaldonTerryWood
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 09:32
I'd like to go back to gigs I went to as a teenager, and see what they look like now to my 60-odd self. I remember being 15 and seeing Stone the Crows and Led Zeppelin at the Empire Pool Wembley in 1971 - about when LedZep 4 came out. John Bonham did a long drum solo and I thought it was boring but everyone esle seemed to be enthusiastic so I went along with it. Wonder how it would sound now?


Posted By: MaldonTerryWood
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 09:36
As to the three corner hats ... who wants to be a town crier anyway?


Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 09:58
I'd go straight to September 1979. I was 8 years old(48 now), and it was when I very first starting really listening to and loving the radio. It was just all so very new and exciting at the time(video killed the radio star.. video killed the radio star..). I would love to just go back and relive all that over again.


Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 10:02
^ Oh and tv shows like Buck Rogers and Battlestar Galactica, the Love Boat, Fantasy Island. Those were the days when life was simple.. and good.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 10:04
Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

I'd go straight to September 1979. I was 8 years old(48 now), and it was when I very first starting really listening to and loving the radio. It was just all so very new and exciting at the time(video killed the radio star.. video killed the radio star..). I would love to just go back and relive all that over again.
You can relive the Drama of Trevor Horn of Buggles taking over from Jon Anderson in YES.  


Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 10:11
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

I'd go straight to September 1979. I was 8 years old(48 now), and it was when I very first starting really listening to and loving the radio. It was just all so very new and exciting at the time(video killed the radio star.. video killed the radio star..). I would love to just go back and relive all that over again.
You can relive the Drama of Trevor Horn of Buggles taking over from Jon Anderson in YES.  


No, I'll set the machine to delete that part lol.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 29 2019 at 11:59
Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

I'd go straight to September 1979. I was 8 years old(48 now), and it was when I very first starting really listening to and loving the radio. It was just all so very new and exciting at the time(video killed the radio star.. video killed the radio star..). I would love to just go back and relive all that over again.
You can relive the Drama of Trevor Horn of Buggles taking over from Jon Anderson in YES.  


No, I'll set the machine to delete that part lol.
I actually like the Drama album. I thought Trevor Horn did a pretty good job of standing in for Jon Anderson, and he even sounded a bit like him, although I heard Trevor Horn got booed at by the audience during some of the YES concerts in Britain.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 01 2019 at 01:23
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

in a 1000 years the world will be ash so I'm not keen on that idea.

I would go back to see ELP playing Pictures At An Exhibition at Newcastle City Hall in March 1971

I was there. The only time I saw ELP. It was good, but not in my top 20 gigs.
 

The excitement though really comes across on the live album. I first hear that album in 1975 and it was so 'visceral' . I think you have to be an ELP fan which obviously I am. I realise that a lot of people who saw them in the seventies were not that impressed.



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