Earliest Movies About Taboo Subjects
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Topic: Earliest Movies About Taboo Subjects
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Subject: Earliest Movies About Taboo Subjects
Date Posted: May 07 2020 at 13:45
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Nothing before 1934 (Hays Code) The earlier, the better, as they seem to handle the subject matter better, especially with quality writing, instead of being crass.. Nothing after the 1970s. From any country. For some reason, they just seem to be better. Nothing silly, but something mature. I'm watching "Pale Flower" and loving it, and there's a mention of a guy who is a "dope addict"… I do remember liking "The Man With The Golden Arm", too. Not the exploitation stuff like "Reefer Madness" ------------- https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 07 2020 at 14:37
| Reefer Madness 🤪 |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 07 2020 at 14:49
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I can't speak for Norwegisn cinema history, though i can recolect some titles but just from weak memory. But i remember the most taboo movie in my time is/was f**king Åmål, a Swedish film about same sex relationship. In it's time it was a seriosuly dangerously topic to portrait in scandinavian film . Today this film would be no worry but this was before Broakback Mountain and so on. -------------  
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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: May 07 2020 at 16:21
That's the definition of exploitation. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
Tom Ozric wrote:Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 16 2020 at 04:35
Interesting topic  First thing that popped into my mind was Kubrick’s Lolita. I still find that to be an unsettling watch. ...but then I thought about The Godfather flicks. In many ways these movies flipped the coin: you are almost instantly rooting for the bad guys. The story is so beautifully told that you often forget that you’ve become deeply attached to a sociopathic murderer with Napoleonic tendencies. These are people you would dread in real life yet somehow you’re warped into a dimension where killing to upfold honour, turf or merely because someone fecks with you...well is completely ok  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 16 2020 at 05:28
| Harold and Maude - A young man falls in love with a woman who is 60 years older than him. The soundtrack by Cat Steven's is superb. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 16 2020 at 05:56
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Todd Browning's Freaks from 1932 is still acutely disturbing 88 years hence. He cast real sideshow performers and people with real disabilities in the roles of Circus employees who seek to exact hideous and brutal revenge on a trapeze artist and strongman who have connived to cheat a dwarf out of his inheritance. Browning's career went 'teats skywards' soon thereafter. It was banned in the UK for 30 years. ------------- 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 16 2020 at 18:39
it didn't get an X rating orginally for nothing.. yeah it pretty much shattered the taboo of movies sugarcoating and glorifying violence.. which we excel at inflicting God bless America and our societies contradictions .. I warned Raff when she moved here. And years later she still does't understand this place.. or like it  anyhow.. another interesting early taboo broken from another from another alltime favorite movie of mine. Das Boot.. humanizing the 'other' side. Which was pretty heavy stuff considering ..well.. all that happened and a lot of people still around that survived yet scarred forever that might object to sympathetic portraits of German solders. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: May 21 2020 at 10:16
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"Spring Night, Summer Night" -- taboo, but no exploitation at all. Very cinema-verite. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 19:38
| I can't really think of many that haven't already been mentioned but I agree with a few even if I never saw them(freaks and the wild bunch). I'm just going by what I know of them. Harold and Maude I did see though and agree with that being taboo. Any movie about an interracial couple before the 1970's would qualify also. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 19:55
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A Lion in Winter (1968) with Peter O'Tool as Henry II and Katherine Hepburn as Eleanor of Aquitaine had some very intense dialogue for the time (Henry's son Richard played by Anthony Hopkins "buggering boys", for instance). You'd never think Katherine Hepburn would utter the line, [while looking at her jewelry] "I'd hang you from the nipples, but you'd shock the children." ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 22:08
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Oh a fave subject of mine. So agree with all of these choices. And what about A Boy and His Dog? Das Boot, Freaks,Harold and Maude! Loved those films. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 01:23
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Although modern (1999) I can't recall any films that have tackled incest head on as unflinchingly and sensitively as Tim Roth's directorial debut the War Zone. Brilliant and understated performances by Ray Winstone, Lara Belmont, Freddie Cunliffe and even Tilda Swinton (an actress I normally wouldn't get tired punching) -------------
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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 09:51
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Shoes (1916) ------------- https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 09:59
| The Birth of a Nation (1915). |
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 13:32
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Madchen in Uniform ------------- https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 14:00
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The first lesbian movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A4dchen_in_Uniform" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A4dchen_in_Uniform Lesbianism was definitely a taboo subject in 1931. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 14:08
I didn't see your post when I posted mine. Just a little hint for the future: If you have no "ä", "ö" or "ü" on your keyboard you have to write "ae", "oe" and "ue" instead; the added "e" indicates the dots. Actually the dots originally were an "e" that at some point was no longer written behind the vowel but instead put above it. Over time it was simplified to the dots of today. These dots are very important; leaving them out can lead to serious misunderstandings. The best example for this is the case of "geachtet" and "geächtet". "Geachtet" means "well respected", "geächtet" means "ostracized", so just the opposite. Examples for the other two umlauts: ö: "auslosen" means "to draw lots for" and "auslösen" means "to trigger off". ü: "drucken" means "to print" and "drücken" means "to press".
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 14:15
I only wish that I could see the earlier longer version. It was very significantly cut for release since test audiences found it too grotesque and disturbing. I think more than half an hour of material was taken out by the studio and that material no longer exists. What a shame, they weren't thinking ahead to a potential DVD Director's Cut release. ;) Tod Browning's Freaks: The Unabridged Cut, now with 50 percent more Freak than in previous releases cause it's chic to be freak. I like Freaks a lot, and, as was mentioned, I love Harold & Maude. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 10:33
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Fully naked woman in the Soviet 1930 movie Earth, considered the classic movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_%281930_film%29" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_(1930_film) ------------- Favourite Band: Gentle Giant Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis) |
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 10:46
Thanks for that - she looked real good. Nice to see a woman with long hair; the braids were cute. Is this a great movie overall? I haven't seen many Soviet/Russian movies. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 11:03
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^ I personally don't like it and such movies, at all. The movie concerns a controversial topic of Soviet collectivisation and thus it had a propaganda value. It is partly a propaganda movie as such. Here you can watch it with English subtitles: ------------- Favourite Band: Gentle Giant Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis) |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 11:19
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^ Earth is a major classic of soviet cinema and absolutely not a taboo subject, since - indeed - it was along the party lines for the promotion of the kolkhoze, so collectivisation was all but a "controversial" topic at the time. And nakedness was not taboo there. Voyeuristic movies existed from early cinema on, including sometimes nakedness. Erotic films and explicit porno were also made from the early 20th century on (but you won't find them on youtube). Here's an early voyeur film, from Méliès - Après le bal (1897): ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |