1969 vs 1972
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Topic: 1969 vs 1972
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Subject: 1969 vs 1972
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 03:02
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If someone asked you "Show me what prog rock is?!", which of these two years has more albums that you'd cue up? ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 03:04
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1972 it's so obvious
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 03:05
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1972 ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 03:38
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Cristi wrote:Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 04:06
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Close to the Edge... Foxtrot... Thick as a Brick... Should I say more? ------------- 
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 04:15
ItCotCK. Without 1969 there would be no 1972.  ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 04:30
This is literally the reason I made this thread, to see how long this argument would take to appear! You're correct. That's why I figured this one isn't as straight forward as some may think!   ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 04:37
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 04:38
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Correct. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 05:23
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'72 ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 09:17
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1972 ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 09:23
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Close to the edge , Foxtrot, Thick as a Brick , Trilogy, Grand Wazoo, Octopus.. Tough list to beat. |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 09:47
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1969 has probably 5 great prog albums as well as plenty of great non prog music but 1972 wipes the floor with it. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 10:20
| 1972 for sure. Probably one of the best years for music in general! |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 10:43
I believe 1972 was the best year ever for Prog-Rock, and the best year for music in general, and my second choice for the best year for music is the psychedelic Summer of Love year of 1967, naturally. 
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 11:17
| 1969. If the other choice had been 1971, I would have then chosen that. |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 12:50
But you asked which year has more albums that you would cue up, not which year was more important. 1969 was obviously more important because of KC, but 72 has so many more releases that are every bit of definitive. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 12:57
Plus: 666 Doremo Fasol Latido Prologue Caravanserai Irrlicht Zeit ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 00:02
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List of great "prog" albums of 1969: Uncle Meat Hot Rats Court Caravan (some sources say this came 1968, some 1969) A Salty Dog On the Threshold Of a Dream To Our Children´s Children´s Children Those Who Are About To Die Salute You Valentyne Suite Hard N Horny Tommy Renaissance Monster Movie Phallus Dei Volume Two (Soft Machine) Joy Of a Toy More Ummagumma Family Entertainment Last Exit Stand Up
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 01:34
| I like 1974. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 01:59
Right but think about it again for a second - a lot of people will conflate important with "must listen" anyway, so the line is blurry. Many will still argue that IToTCK is the best prog album of all time, withstanding influence and genre pioneering importance. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 02:12
Non provable hypothesis...so 1972 ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 02:20
 awesome answer, close the thread
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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 03:57
1973 is better. SEBTP and TFTO... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 04:00
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 04:46
Yeah but bro, TPaTG... ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 04:48
There was (and probably still is) a piece somewhere on NPR's website where a journalist argues that 1971 was the premier year for rock. It's certainly smack in the middle of the golden period. Interestingly he made the point that not everything about pop culture was at a peak at that time. He wouldn't, for instance, want to inflict a night of 1971 television on anyone. ------------- Believe me Pope Paul, my toes are clean |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 04:57
What was on cable TV in 1971? ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 06:48
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Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: June 05 2020 at 02:03
I think there is a consensus that it around 2000 with the Sopranos, and we're probably still in it (except that the concept of TV itself has become so balkanised in the last decade). I certainly agree as far as drama goes - Sopranos lifted the standard of TV drama incredibly, to the extent that for instance the pilot of 'Boardwalk Empire' had a motion picture budget and was directed by Martin Scorsese). OTOH 2000 was also the year that Reality TV really took off and became A Thing :/ ------------- Believe me Pope Paul, my toes are clean |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 05 2020 at 03:34
This is honestly a good discussion for a new thread. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: June 05 2020 at 05:12
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: June 05 2020 at 05:20
1969 is the year of birth. 1972 is the year of success. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 06 2020 at 02:33
Well said. With that said, what single album from one of those years would you show somebody? JC! ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 06 2020 at 02:55
I ran a poll sometime ago asking which was the best year ever for prog and the classic year of 1973 was the overall winner.
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 07 2020 at 05:23
Interesting, I'd have figured 1972 would win with flying colors. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 07 2020 at 06:28
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In my Annus Mirabilis of Prog poll, way back on Page 26, the year of 1973 won the poll by a wide margin with 11 votes, compared to just 3 votes for the year of 1972. https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121908" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121908
These are ten of my favourite best-known albums from the classic prog year of 1973:- MIKE OLDFIELD - Tubular Bells PINK FLOYD - Dark Side of the Moon GENESIS - Selling England by the Pound CAMEL - Camel CARAVAN - For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night YES - Tales from Topographic Oceans RENAISSANCE - Ashes Are Burning FRUUPP - Future Legends NEKTAR - Remember the Future HAWKWIND - Space Ritual |
Posted By: thief
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 06:54
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Well, 1969 is very impressive when you take all the popular music into account: - high-water mark of counterculture (Beatles, Creedence, The Band, TABB, Tommy!) - birth of prog (KC), starting point for many great bands (though I count Led Zeppelin as part of 1968 class) - fusion (Miles, Zappa) - folk, country and co. had a GREAT year (CS&N, Neil Young & Crazy Horse, Van Zandt, Buckley, Fairport Convention..) - soul and funk (Hayes, Sly), blues rock, and more BUT as far as prog goes, 1972 is much stronger. It's hard to compete with 1972 at all.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 08:30
What?.....did Crimson have the 'Keys To Time' or something and allowed the universe to go on...? BTW...the poll said I voted but I don't recall.....apparently Crimson also stole my memory. ...the answer is 1972 ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 09:15
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LMAO @ 43 / 4 for 1972 / 1969. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 10:41
Well none of that shyte is not even as good as Timetable from Foxtrot... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 11:04
| Other than "In the Court of the Crimson King" are there really many other famous prog albums from that year? There might be a few but compared to 1972 not so much. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 11:23
Not many. 1972 had Close to the Edge, which in itself is one of the reasons why 1972 is better.
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Posted By: thief
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 11:38
Miles and Zappa hardly qualify as shyte, neither Led Zeppelin :)
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 11:43
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None of that qualifies as shyte in my book, but I might well qualify the opinion on shyte as shyte. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 21:43
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1972 ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 21:57
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1969 was Act I 1972 was the cream of the crop middle section. -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Lieutenant_Lan
Date Posted: February 25 2021 at 09:34
| 72 obviously |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: February 25 2021 at 09:48
Loving your overuse of the word "obviously" LL
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: February 25 2021 at 19:22
Not only had prog established itself in 1972 with many classic albums coming out also the audio production is better, something I care about. 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 26 2021 at 02:13
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1972 v 1975 might have been trickier for me. 1972 had the 'big three' prog hitters of ELP, Yes and Genesis at their peak but of course there was plenty of classic prog from others as well. 1975 was the last truly great year of prog before it started to break down. Many bands and artists had found perfection in the pursuit of excellence as well evidenced by the Oldfield , Camel, Floyd and Gentle Giant releases of that particular year. You also had Rainbow and Led Zep expanding the horizons of heavy rock although that's going off on a slightly different tangent. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 26 2021 at 02:24
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^ I still would've chosen 1972 if it had been 1972 v 1975.
1973 was voted as the best year ever for prog in a recent poll.
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: February 26 2021 at 02:56
For me, 1974 was the last truly great year of prog before it started to break down, and even then, that was only in terms of UK prog. The European prog scene carried on, as the UK prog scene trailed off. My favourite Pink Floyd album was released in 1975, and Gentle Giant’s release is alright. But for me the latter band had already peaked, and were providing me with ever-diminishing returns. King Crimson’s first phase(s) had ended. Gabriel had left Genesis (which is not to say I don’t like any of the Collins material, nor that I think Gabriel leaving the band was the worst thing that ever happened to Genesis). One of my favourite songs from 1975, though, has to be Split Enz’s Stranger Than Fiction. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: March 01 2021 at 05:31
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1972, just like the other 58 people have said; I could use 1969 to showcase some of the albums that were responsible for the genesis of prog rock, but '72 is for the good stuff. |