Twin Peaks vs. Fargo
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Topic: Twin Peaks vs. Fargo
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Twin Peaks vs. Fargo
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 16:33
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While I am thinking mostly about the TV versions, one can take into consideration the TV shows and the movies. The poll is merely intended as a silly accessory to discussion on these shows and related avenues. I’ve been watching more of another series of late with some of the same feel, Carvivale, but that show hasn’t struck me as much as Fargo or Twin Peaks. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 16:41
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I can't say that I have watched both as tv shows, Logan. I was an avid Twin Peaks fan and also loved Fargo as a film. Both were wonderful, dark comedies and well done. I visited Snoqualmie Falls a couple of years ago, as it was convenient on a driving trip to and from Seattle while my son visited. It was in the daytime, though. Who could ever forget the foreboding traffic signal glowing red in the dark? ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 23:09
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I loved Fargo as a film, and the series has been, I think, really terrific-- so good. It was due to come back in April for season four, but it was delayed. Each season tells a different story, and each has been very good in its own way, I think. I have yet to watch Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me. I only recently watched through all of the Twin Peaks TV series (the original two seasons followed by the 25 years later one) and ah, I loved it (including the often maligned, including by Lynch, season two). I'd love to visit Snoqualmie Falls. I have been not far off it many times, but never visited (that I can recall anyway). Hopefully next year I'll go -- it's not a long trip. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 23:49
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For some reason it says "You cannot vote in this poll", but my vote goes to the memorable movie, Fargo, with its amusing portrayal of "Minnesota nice" politeness. I tried watching the bizarre Twin Peaks TV show, but the story was too convoluted and hard for me to follow, although I enjoyed the music of Angelo Badalamenti and bought the soundtracks from the two series. |
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 05:26
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I like both very much, but if I were pushed to choose only one of them my vote would go to "Twin Peaks" because of its mysterious atmosphere. but since I am not pushed I vote for both -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 09:59
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I caught a bit of Twin Peaks in its original run, but it needs to be paid attention to and watched sequentially. I had free time recently and binged all of Twin Peaks (the series, not the film yet). It hooked me right from the beginning. Perhaps because I watched it in the manner I did, instead of a week between episodes, I didn't find it overly complicated/ convoluted. Due to that mysterious atmosphere, It's not going to be all spelled out for you, and it sure could get very odd. I'm glad that I opted to go back and watch Eraserhead again before watching this show. I love the surrealism of Twin Peaks.So much of it is dreamlike, and the humour is wonderful. I thought in season two it did get too goofy at times (I groaned on various occasions). I loved the soap opera (with its own twists on that) qualities of the first season especially. The 25 years later Twin Peaks (2017 I think) was an amazing return. The atom bomb episode was so artistic, and just hearing Penderecki's Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima was powerful in and of itself. As for Fargo the TV series, that is brilliant too, and I binged each season. The first one is the season that moved me and got me the most, but I loved all three. At the time it was the greatest thing for me. Having more recently really got into Twin Peaks. A show compared To Twin peaks, and apparently influenced by it, is Lost, but that is one of which I lost out on watching much. The Prisoner, the 60s Bristish show, was always a favourite of mine, and that has some intrigue and humour that I would think might appeal to Twin Peaks and Fargo (the show especially) fans. One likes Preacher too. And my daughter got me watching Riverdale, which seemed obviously influenced by Twin Peaks (never as satisfying to me). I need to watch Fire Walk With Me soon, and I would like to read related materials. Anyway, Twin Peaks and Fargo -- both amazing I think, and both shine. Much as I loved the film of Fargo, for me the series I love even more. Well, there's more to love. I find it funny at times and very poignant (very sad at times). It moved me very much on different occasions. For those who liked the film, I do recommend seeing the series. With Twin Peaks, I feel with season three that's one hell of a come back, and with the series of Fargo, I think, now that is one hell of a show based on a film. Superb. I could rave on and on about both series. I voted both by the way -- it worked for me. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 10:39
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Yes...the poll is screwed up...says one cannot vote. At any rate I'll pick Twin Peaks....the tv series ...over Fargo. I prefer the 'weirdness' in Peaks. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 10:40
Until I came across this thread today, I wasn't aware of the Fargo TV series, or the Twin Peaks movie.  I'm still not sure why I'm unable to vote in your poll.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 10:47
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^ It's probably a software glitch. Twin Peaks started a s a tv series...then a film...Fargo started as a film then series. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 10:52
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It's likely because I should have put it in the Polls section, I was careless, and voting is disabled for most in the forum. Moving the topic. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 11:07
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I really loved this series when I was in my teens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A1v%C5%A1t%C4%9Bvn%C3%ADci_%28TV_series%29" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A1v%C5%A1t%C4%9Bvn%C3%ADci_(TV_series)
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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 11:11
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Twin Peaks had that other-worldy feel to it - watching it all those years ago, you never quite knew where it was going. Fargo is great TV, but never grabbed me the same. ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 11:11
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I love both series, Twin Peaks I saw at the age of 13 maybe and it really grabbed me, I loved the atmosphere the weirdness and the mystery. Funny that only recently I've been trying to get a hold of the show and watch it again (It has been more than 25 years). I wonder what kind of an effect it will have on me now... Fargo is one of my top "new" 5 series, I especially liked season 2 with its 70's soundtrack. And what's the relation to Snoqualmie Falls? I had been there about 3 years ago on a holiday which ended up in Vancouver before going home.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 11:14
I haven't heard of that. One non-English language one that I think fits well that I loved is Lars von Trier's Riget (The Kingdom). ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
BaldFriede wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 11:15
Those are the falls featured prominently in Twin Peaks. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 11:17
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Twin Peaks' rules!! Fargo was a funny movie, still is. But Twin Peaks pretty much reset the TV series format and delved into deep dark stuff, it had its funny moments. Plus the "Twin Peaks" cafe in North Bend is great, excellent pie! Actual name is Twedes Cafe -------------   
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 11:21
As soon as this Covid crisis is over, and the weather is warm again, I'm going to make a pilgrimage there. I hope they have excellent cherry pie and coffee (I'll take it black -- that matters). Twin Peaks was amazing, it could be disturbing, deranged and so very delightful. Such an influential show. Though I got into it late, much better late than never. My cherry tree is full of cherries, though the crows get at them, I should make some pie. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 11:27
Thanks for fixing the glitch.  I'm able to vote now and I voted for Fargo, the movie.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 11:30
That sounds like a good plan....They have great pics on the wall too. Squirrels get our cherries -------------
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 11:38
Oh, yeah, the squirrels are often up our tree too, and raccoons at night We just got a ton of cherries this year so I still have plenty despite the foraging by the crows, squirrels and raccoons. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 13:12
There was another interesting series from thee same production team with almost exactly the same actors, but it was fantasy instead of SF: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabela_%28TV_series%29" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabela_(TV_series) Both series were exceptionally well done, and there was a lot of humour (I prefer the British spelling to the US spelling; it's the one I learned as a kid) in them too.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 13:27
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Hi, At the time I saw some of the TP stuff I did not care for it much, and later I saw FWWM, and for some reason, I still did not like David Lynch's stuff ... maybe because I was not "new" to this kind of thing in film, and there were/are many of these through out Europe that are really crazy and off its rock! Fargo, for me was fine, but I think it lacked one thing that I liked way back when ... French comedy have a lot of that "I don't give a sheep dip" in them, and I felt that Fargo went after too many gags to make it seem funny, and it just didn't grab me ... it did have some funny performances, no doubt there, but the whole thing just didn't exactly grab me, as much as i thought it might ... the Coen's, have a lot of films that were well seen and appreciated in America, but I, personally, did not think much of a lot of them, to the point that I even stopped reviewing anything they did ... it just felt empty for me! Kinda "forced" to be funny, or weird, and it just wasn't the kind of thing I like to watch. I prefer the surprise, the total lunacy and crazy cartooning of the "comedy" ... and I miss some of the great beauties in European films that won't get seen because of a lot of these things ... I miss that film about the guy who is becoming a cartoon as he is falling in love ... the mix of cartoon and reality is totally far out and crazy ... and the best we can do is a "Fargo". David Lynch, is another story. I think that he started wanting to be another "Luis Bunuel" but he did not have the serious sentiments and background of history and insanity that Luis had, and since American history was about Walt Disney ... (yak yak!!!) ... it meant that all he could really lampoon in his work was some of these traditions ... and sometimes, I thought these were "fake" thoughts and ideas, not realities, and for me it took away some of the greatness of the films. And having Kyle Mc trying to copy a series of Bunuel characters was not on my list of enjoyments. His films, did have some interesting things, but all in all, I think that the writing was lacking, and it became just a series of visual something or other in what reminded me of a lot of times of having been stoned ... and even the things that you knew, were like ... you don't know them! Both a nice bunch of films, though, entertaining, although I seem to appreciate them better today than I did when I first saw these. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 13:53
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With Twin Peaks, I think that it's his co-creator Mark Frost who brought in many of the most interesting ideas. I think of Twin Peaks as being like psychodrama, and Jungian archetypes are evoked. As for Fargo, if you haven't seen the series, I expect that you will prefer that to the film. Honesty, it so very well done. It's asort of anthology series, in that each season tells a different story. I prefer the series to the film. Season one, especially, really grabbed me. I rank it as one of the very best shows that I have seen. I know availability has been something of an issue for you with these things, but the series Fargo is worth watching even if one wasn't that keen on the film. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 01 2020 at 20:58
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Having just re-joined Netflix, I'm finally starting on Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me. :) ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 01 2020 at 21:23
You are lucky, you must have many trees.....We only have two, several apple trees and she runs a huge garden. -------------
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 09:19
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I only have one big cherry tree, but it's put out so many cherries this year -- a ton is an exaggeration, but plenty compared to other years. My favorite tree is a large and majestic Sakura (Japanese cherry blossom tree). IN terms of Twin Peaks, ah I would love to live in a town, preferable one without murders, Bob, or a black lodge, I did watch Fire Walk with Me last night -- I liked it, but not as much as the series. I found it too scrutable, less mysterious, it didn't answer any questions I felt needed answering, and well, I would have liked more Cooper. My favourite scene involved Chris Issak's and Kiefer Surherland's characters describing a woman in a red dress. It was odd to see a different person playing Donna. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 02 2020 at 10:14
A cult movie now, a bomb at the box office LOL....yea it was weird not seeing Lara Boyle. -------------
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 05 2020 at 17:16
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By the way, did anyone catch Lynch's What Did Jack Do? short film on Netflix? If not, I found it worth watching. I am surprised that there aren't more fans of Twin Peaks and Fargo at the forum. Just seven between both? I bet I could find a lot more at reddit. ;) Am re-watching season three (the Return) of Twin Peaks. I love the characterisations, and despite any horror (still plenty of humour), ultimately the heart. By the way, I know not many people like podcasts, but there's a fine Twin Peaks podcast called Diane. https://diane.libsyn.com/" rel="nofollow - https://diane.libsyn.com/ ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: August 06 2020 at 08:48
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Neither ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 06 2020 at 09:11
Because you tried either the series or films or both and couldn’t get into them, because you don’t know them? Or.... I am as interested in hearing why something doesn’t appeal as to why it does with individuals, and it’s the details that most interest me, ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 26 2020 at 00:34
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I really enjoyed the Fargo TV series especially the season with Alison Tolman. She recently cropped up in the sci-fi show Emergence playing virtually the same character. The film Fargo never did it for me despite Francis McDormand's Oscar winning turn . I always felt that Coen Brothers blew hot and cold with so many things although I loved the Western they did for Netflix ( The Legend Of Buster Scuggs i think it was called) and also No Country for Old Men which is classic but otherwise I think they get a bit up their own bum making lots of film references to old Hollywood films. Twin Peaks - always a fan and the film was excellent and perhaps not as weird as expected. The recent TV series was good 'fun' but made absolutely no sense whatsoever to me. I don't mind that much , Lynch is all about weirdness for the sake of it. I voted for Fargo on the strength of the TV series although I preferred the Twin Peaks film. BTW slightly of topic but Mulholland Drive must be one of the best films ever. Staggering what Lynch pulled off there IMO.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 26 2020 at 04:20
Yep, the first series of Fargo is my favourite. With Twin Peaks, season three is my favourite (although season one is what hooked me). I felt I understood it well enough (and wouldn't mind the trip even if I didn't "get" everything). I tried to get me wife to watch Twin Peaks, but she found it too weird. It is quite ludicrous, especially, if one thinks of it as realistic -- the way people deal with "Dougie" (Kyle MacLachlan's not altogether there character before "the sleeper has awoken" to quote from Lynch/ Maclachlan's Dune) even though it's like he has had a severe stroke or something. I don't mind, and like the surrealistic qualities (I also like Eraserhead). In a way I sort of think of it as David Lynch and Mark Frost's dream. It probably helped that I binged all of Twin Peaks (minus the movie) over a few days and then saw Fire Walk With Me a couple of weeks later. The second season/series got a little too silly for me, but the ending was great. I liked the soap opera qualities of the first and found it quite delightful (and sometimes harrowing). The third could be very dark indeed, but still had delightful and humorous moments that I thought sparkled. And I thought the atom bomb episode was really trippin' (a very bad trip, though one might say). I think it's so neat that they referenced Cooper and Laura Palmer meeting again in 25 years and the show came back about 25 years later. I love the way the continued with the show, instead of the usual kind of a reboot. The next best TV return I can think of was with The League of Gentlemen also in 2017. And The X Files returned in 2016 -- both Twin Peaks and The X Files having had David Duchovny in them. I agree with you one the greatness of Mulholland Drive, that's a film that blew me away. I do like the Coen Bros. films including the Ballad of Buster Scruggs. I love the Big Lebowski -- I get that many do and many don't. Miller's Crossing has been my traditional favourite but I haven't seen it for decades. And I thought No Country For Old Men was great. I liked the film Fargo a lot when it came out, but I find the series much more satisfying. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 09:35
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Both...but Twin Peaks. It will probably forever remain one of my top 3 shows up there with The Sopranos and Six Feet Under (followed closely by The Americans) |