The Absence of Reviews for Kansas latest album
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Topic: The Absence of Reviews for Kansas latest album
Posted By: Enchant X
Subject: The Absence of Reviews for Kansas latest album
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 03:31
It just seems a little strange that's all that when a high profile band releases a new CD hardly anybody makes a comment
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 03:37
Maybe you should review it then?
I haven't because I'm not much of a reviewer, too lazy.
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Posted By: bertolino
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 04:37
As an occasional collaborator , i feel obliged to mention that it is what i think of everything's coming out for at least two years, out of hard/prog metal genres. So it may be an important matter of reflection; about collaborator's renewing, and even the whole site dynamism. This is out of any harsh criticism but only a factual question. Evidently this is a much larger question than what is allowed to this poll...
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 05:15
Not that I don't like Kansas, their latest didn't pique my interest.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 05:27
This is your second post about how you don’t like the new Kansas album. I reviewed it, thought it was decent, not as good as the prelude implicit. The mix is just too loud and compressed.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 05:29
119 ratings, 4 reviews. Not bad. Maybe their fans have moved on. The last Kansas I bought was "Point of No Return". I've heard the new one. Not for me. Sounds like Spock's Beard.
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 06:09
dougmcauliffe wrote:
This is your second post about how you don’t like the new Kansas album. I reviewed it, thought it was decent, not as good as the prelude implicit. The mix is just too loud and compressed. | Doug I`m not saying I don't like it and I read your review edit and I fully agree with every word you said about it. So me writing a review would just be repeating your well chosen words too loud too compressed, brick walled etc, the material is decent enough ruined by the mix. I've analyzed the recording it peaks at 100.6 db thats loudness wars material. Something weird happens to my ears when an album is mixed so loud I fail to engage in the beauty. I need dynamic range to enjoy an album, I believe 96 db is about my natural enjoyable hearing range ... not 100.6 db.
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 06:20
chopper wrote:
Maybe you should review it then?
I haven't because I'm not much of a reviewer, too lazy. | My reviews suck I`m not much of a reviewer, (not good enough for this site) I just stick to the forum to express my emotions out.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 06:56
dougmcauliffe wrote:
The mix is just too loud and compressed. | Funny you mention this and then gush about Opeth and DT in a thread. Those mixes are crushed compared to the latest Kansas.
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 07:03
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
dougmcauliffe wrote:
The mix is just too loud and compressed. | Funny you mention this and then gush about Opeth and DT in a thread. Those mixes are crushed compared to the latest Kansas. | Have you analyzed the new Kansas album using a spectrum analyzer ? its crushed to pieces .. part of Kansas beauty is their dynamic range the latest Kansas album has no dynamic range its a brick walled mess.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 07:08
You can hear a mix that's crushed, don't need a spectrum analyzer. Does the mix ruin it for you? Is the LP more dynamic?
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 09:51
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
dougmcauliffe wrote:
The mix is just too loud and compressed. | Funny you mention this and then gush about Opeth and DT in a thread. Those mixes are crushed compared to the latest Kansas. |
Which ones are you talking about? Dream Theater Self Titled is the only one that’s as smashed to bits as that new Kansas. A few other DT albums have some compression issues but the ones I really like don’t. Most Opeth albums sound great, the only two with compression issues are sorceress and ICV, to much more mild degrees than the new Kansas.
I thought prelude implicit had a great modern sounding mix, like you said similar to Spock’s Beard Leonard era
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 10:09
Waiting for a new review of Kansas is like sitting one out at a square dance. You wonder why it was ever necessary in the first place. Admittingly not very witty, but hopefully you get my meaning.
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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 10:48
I personally never felt like reviewing it, but I liked what I heard. I guess it did not resonate and make me return to it too much, could be the reason why I did not consider writing about it.
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Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 11:05
I voted other because I'm been busy doing reviews for other bands first. However, Kansas is a great band that I like very much. I hope have some time to review some of their stuff, I mean, the 70's stuff. As you know, it's only a matter of time and personal priorities. The same kappens with many other great bands. You know, I needed two lives, at least, to can review all I want to review.
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 16:41
Funny. I've been checking out post-Morse Spock's Beard recently, and I noticed that they went in a more Kansas direction haha. Sorry, off-topic, but relevant. Feel Euphoria, Octane, the S/T, and so on.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 21:58
Well...I haven't heard it yet and I really don't want to start writing reviews...haven't done one here in 10 years.
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 10:36
I find it weird too. I have reviewed it, and I gave it four stars. I think Tom Brislin was an excellent addition to the band, he really delivers here.
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Posted By: triptych
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 11:13
OMG !! You mean Kansas is still kickin'???!!!???
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 04:10
triptych wrote:
OMG !! You mean Kansas is still kickin'???!!!??? | they are still kickin they show a lot of promise maybe we will see another great Kansas album before they stop kickin, all that ruined the last CD was the smashed to bits over compression which killed the dynamic range and damaged the sound of Phil Ehart's drums badly.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 04:14
triptych wrote:
OMG !! You mean Kansas is still kickin'???!!!??? |
how do you not know these things?
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 04:23
Cristi wrote:
triptych wrote:
OMG !! You mean Kansas is still kickin'???!!!??? |
how do you not know these things? | and Phil Ehart's double kickin never sounded so good as demonstrated in propulsion 1.
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 16:01
I liked it. I don't consider myself knowledgeable enough of the music of Kansas to write a review of the album. However if I did it would be about 3.5 stars.
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 22:34
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
You can hear a mix that's crushed, don't need a spectrum analyzer. Does the mix ruin it for you? Is the LP more dynamic? | I'm unsure if the LP is more dynamic, but I'm unsure about the idea of modern vinyl if in the mixing mastering process digital is used in the first place ... it seems to defeat the purpose.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 22:37
Other than the first four albums, i've never found Kansas very intersting. So much other better music to explore.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 23:14
But Point of Know Return ^ 
That aside, I think Song For America, Apercu and Journey From Mariaabron are top tier prog songs.... ever
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 08:46
dougmcauliffe wrote:
But Point of Know Return ^ 
That aside, I think Song For America, Apercu and Journey From Mariaabron are top tier prog songs.... ever |
Oh, you're right. My bad. The first five albums. I love the debut album, Song For America, Masque, Leftoverture and Point of Know Return.
The band really started sucking around Monolith and although not absolutely horrible continued to get worse and worse to the point i h ave no desire to check out new Kansas.
I would recommend another band called Proto-Kaw which is the band that became Kansas. Now that's worthy of checking out. I do love the album covers of the last two albums and i haven't heard the new singer so i should probably listen to one of them just to say i did :)
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 10:25
I agree, after POKR it's really a deep descent into mediocrity, but there's some really good cuts off the last 3 Kansas albums that are worthwhile. Notably: Distant Vision, The Voyage of Eight Eighteen, Icarus II, With This Heart, Camouflage and Rhythm in the Spirit
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 13:42
I think Point Of Know Return was an excellent album isn't it funny how we can hear the same album but interpret it from a different perspective, songs like Closet Chronicles, Nobody's Home and Hopelessly Human convince me its an excellent album not forgetting the spider and of course dust in the wind. BTW I also like Monolith it has some great songs on it however the rift between Kerry Livgren and Steve Walsh was starting to show which is probably what listeners are detecting.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 13:45
I meant after POKR, love that album. So starting with Monolith, which is shaky, it just gets worse and worse throughout the 80s.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 14:48
The first 5 are very good for sure, but I agree with the other Doug in that there are some nice tracks off the last 3 albums.And I really need to listen to the newest one......
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