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Topic: The Age of Aquarius is dawning (for real)!!Posted By: Mind_Drive
Subject: The Age of Aquarius is dawning (for real)!!
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 16:32
Ok guys this sounds maybe a bit our there, but the hippies were right all along and pretty ahead of their time..
The golden Age of Aquarius is dawning and with it a New Earth will be born.
The folowing is probably either the craziest thing you have ever read or it will expand your consciousness and instantly set you free from the matrix.
[For context: since 2010 I am researching this stuff and recently found the last crucial pieces of the puzzle. This is my very humble attempt to summerize this all-encompassing topic. It does not claim to be 100% accurate or even to be only slightly complete - but it paints a rough picture of our reality]
-- BEWARE: MASSIVE SPOILERS --
Looking beyond the Veil
If the sources mentioned below are speaking the truth, it
means nothing less than that mankind is in the process of finally liberating
itself (with the help from above) from the agelong oppression by the dark overlords.
But this game is much bigger than one would like to suspect:
We are currently experiencing the end of an
intergalactic/interdimensional war between Light and Dark, that has lasted for
millions of years, with Earth being the last occupied planet under the control
of the dark forces and the victory of light being inevitable... Sounds incredible?
It is!
Some background information:
Through the interaction of free will with the Primary Anomaly,
which is the polar opposite (yet part of) Source, darkness/evil emerged long
ago, when the first beings began to turn away from the Light, disregarding the
law of unity and enriching themselves at the expense of others.
At first, this development was tolerated (Lucifer played a
part in this fall from grace, but is actually not to blame, because he merely made
this experience possible and took sheer infinite pain onto himself in the
process). But that so much suffering would ever result from it, was never in
the spirit of Source. Therefore, the belief that suffering is inevitably part
of existence is a misconception, that stems from our matrix programming: our
true state of being is pure peace and unconditional love.
But the Archons (dark entities) have set out to subjugate
the universe and have occupied and enslaved many star systems and planets.
Among them is our beautiful Mother Earth, which they conquered about 26.000
years ago.
The bitter reality up until now:
Since then, mankind has been controlled, oppressed and
exploited from the shadows (other planes of existence) by the Archons and their
Minions, the Draco and Reptilians*:
Our natural connection to higher levels of consciousness and
ultimately to Source has been cut off by a matrix of energetic barriers and
implants, energetic attacks, and psychological warfare and manipulation.
Through the installation of patriarchal religions, sins and
the image of a punishing God, the suppression of our true history of origin,
suppression of the divine feminie, sexuality and spirituality, suppression of science
(example: free energy, see Tesla) and holistic medicine (maintaining a
materialistic-deterministic world view, school-medicine that does more harm
than it offers healing). Through the poisoning of our food, our drinking water,
the atmosphere and the perversion of art and media... the list is long! Not a
single aspect of our lives has been left out!
Virtually everything has been corrupted by these parasites
and used to our detriment. They have deliberately kept us in a in a vicious cycle
of trauma and suffering and have sown disaster wherever they can, feeding on
our fear and the negative energies that all the suffering generates:
They have removed themselves so far from source, that they
depend on the life energy of other beings for survival! And so they created
this perfidious system - a prison of suffering invisible to the inmates - where
they could feast on the prisoners without them noticing. In this way, they
subdued many planets and space-races and perfected their cruel technologies
over millions of years.
This is the reason why our world is ruled by tyrants and
psychopaths, the reason why there is so much injustice and for many here is
hell on earth. No species would destroy itself on its own initiative in such a
way, that simply contradicts the laws of evolution. We would have long been ready
to travel the universe in peace and harmony as one species (like all other
races in the free universe do). But our governments are controlled by the
Deepstate, which in turn is controlled by the black aristocracy, where the
Archons incarnated and ruled, which are the origin of our misery. Humanity has
been oppressed and poisoned, raped and traumatized, and their souls have been
caught in the endless wheel of karma and rebirth. This is what our sad reality
has looked like so far...
Throughout history, there have been repeated attempts by the
lightforces to free humanity from within this prison (Jesus, Buddha, Hermes
Trismegisto, St. Germain and many others). But even if these beings brought
much wisdom and light to the earth and illuminated it sustainably, the matrix
was simply too strong for mankind to free itself...
But now the time of change has finally come!
Since the 1970s, the Galactic Federation (they already reside
in our solar system with millions of ships!) has been working with the
Resistance Movement on Earth and the people of Argata/Inner Earth (who fled
there after the fall of Atlantis and the first Archon invasion) to free
humanity once and for all!
Problem: Humanity is held hostage by the dark. This means
that if the forces of light would physically intervene here on earth, complete
chaos would ensue and the dark forces would destroy everything before humanity
could be saved. Too many would lose their lives. Therefore, unbelievably skilled
and careful action must be taken. The dark rulers are fighting back, as you can
see, and are now using their last resources (Covid-19) to install their NWO and
force humanity into submission to keep their power.
But they are already checkmate and they know it! The victory
of light is inevitable and already visible from the higher planes! All positive
timelines have been secured, all drastically negative ones have been resolved.
Each and every day more people become aware, the matrix is continuously being
dismantled and the light here on earth is increasing steadily. However, the
dark ones are not ready to surrender and continue with their evil agenda.
Therefore, the situation for us on earth is now becoming more and more instable
and intense until everything discharges at once:
The Event!
Once the Matrix/the old system has collapsed and the dark ones
are disempowered and disarmed enough to intervene, the cabal/deepstate will be
arrested and held accountable for all their actions. Everything is prepared:
The financial system will be reset and replaced by a fair
one. All suppressed inventions and technologies are going to be released. The
media will be freed and report the truth again! The veil of illusions will fall
and we will finally be free!
With this cosmic event - the timing of which cannot be
predicted, but which (in my opinion and
in the opinion of many others) is very likely to happen within the next 6
months - a wave of love and light from the Galactic Central Sun will hit the
Earth, dissolving the last remnants of the primary anomaly and illuminating the
entire planet, which will be clearly felt by many. The Matrix will finally collapse
and there will be a collective sigh of relief. Nevertheless, it will also be a
shock for many, because not everyone will have woken up by then - the matrix programming
still sits too deep.
A lot of healing will be necessary, but the worst will be
over. All humans will finally be able to live in peace, freedom and abundance!
Not long after the Event, the Resistance Movement will make
itself public and the first official physical contacts with our starry brothers
and sisters will be made and nothing will stand in the way anymore of our returning
home to the higher planes of existence. Gaia will be ascending into the 5th
density of unity consciousness and everyone, who is willing to step fully into
the light is going with her. The golden Age of Aquarius is dawning…
What a time to be alive!
PS: Each and every one of us who is committed to this shift
with love and truthfulness or who simply lets his/her light shine, contributes
an invaluable part to this liberation! Thank you all for that!
Victory of the Light!
Here are a few links:
Overview of the most important articles by CoBra (the
speaker of the Resistance Movement):
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST: Huge global mass meditation on
december 21/22th at the exact time of jupiter-saturn conjuction! The final
activation of the Age of Aquarius:
Your Time and Date depending on your timezone as well as
further info and the guided meditation can be found in the video‘s description.
* Draco and Reptilians are not inherently evil, but some of them
sadly were genetically modified and twisted by the dark to server their evil agenda.
(this text was originally written in german and I used deepL translator to translate and then further edited it)
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Replies: Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 17:30
What a load of drivel. Post this in a forum for folks that wear tinfoil helmets. This is a music site.
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Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 17:53
thanks for reading it anyways!
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 18:01
Mind_Drive wrote:
thanks for reading it anyways!
I didn't read it. I glanced over the first paragraph, parsed quickly down the remaining blocks of incoherent yammering and ignored the clickbait. I've seen more appealing spam.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 18:04
A think a song is called for.
The Fifth Dimension - Age of Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In
Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 18:07
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
A think a song is called for.
The Fifth Dimension - Age of Aquarius
I love this one! great call!
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 18:21
^ Thanks! I'm from the peace and love hippie generation too, so I'm with you all the way. Let the sunshine in and feel the love!
There's nothing like the awesome power of music to fill the heart with love.
Marilyn McCoo with The Fifth Dimension and Robert Wagner! (although he's not singing)
"One Less Bell to Answer" - I love the lyrics:- "Why did he leave me? Now I've got one less egg to fry"
Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 18:46
Haha cool!
How it must feel to see it finally unfold after so many years...
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 19:10
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
A think a song is called for.
The Fifth Dimension - Age of Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In
...
Hi,
Actually the original songs from the musical were much better and meant a lot more than the over rated 5th something or other!
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 20:08
I actually read that whole thing, and this sentence caught my attention more than the others:
Mind_Drive wrote:
With this cosmic event - the timing of which cannot be
predicted, but which (in my opinion and
in the opinion of many others) is very likely to happen within the next 6
months
OK, if this doesn't happen in the next six months, you have some explaining to do. I'm not going to be a happy camper if I don't get my cosmic event!
By the way, Primary Anomaly would make a great band name.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 21:57
If it doesn't correlate to the extinction of mankind, I don't want to hear about it.
------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 23:48
progaardvark wrote:
I actually read that whole thing, and this sentence caught my attention more than the others:
Mind_Drive wrote:
With this cosmic event - the timing of which cannot be
predicted, but which (in my opinion and
in the opinion of many others) is very likely to happen within the next 6
months
OK, if this doesn't happen in the next six months, you have some explaining to do. I'm not going to be a happy camper if I don't get my cosmic event!
By the way, Primary Anomaly would make a great band name.
Thanks for taking your time!
If it does indeed take longer, I will try and explain :)
and you are right, awesome band name! :D
Man With Hat wrote:
If it doesn't correlate to the extinction of mankind, I don't want to hear about it.
I'm afraid, those timelines are no longer possible tho ;) If you'd really want that, you should have joined the black sun worshipping satanists a long time ago and do dark rituals 24/7 but I would've not advise it, since it could lead you too far astray..
Souls, who have fallen so deep from grace that they are not able to step into the light by their own free will, will have to be carried into the galactic central sun, where their existence will be annihiliated and their essence totally transmuted back into light. This is not a fun process and indeed one of the saddest things about this whole story.. Imagine you once knew a soul - maybe even someone who you were really close to - that has chosen to experience darkness to the point they are no longer able to return. Physical death is only a transition, but for a soul being sent into the central sun it means utter annihilation.. So be glad you did not chose a darker path, so you - like the vast majority of humanity - will easily be able to integrate and transmute their own shadows, once the veil is lifted, to fully heal from all scars our souls have gathered over the countless lifetimes in this 3rd density hell we were conditioned to accept as our sad reality.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 00:46
The Dark Elf wrote:
What a load of drivel. Post this in a forum for folks that wear tinfoil helmets. This is a music site.
Seconded. With olliestoned's post two days ago and now this one, it seems that this site is under spiritual attack. I thought that that Aquarius crap had died a silent death and was left to rot years ago, but my own tin foil hat seems to have failed to protect me against wishful thinking.
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Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 01:35
someone_else wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
What a load of drivel. Post this in a forum for folks that wear tinfoil helmets. This is a music site.
Seconded. With olliestoned's post two days ago and now this one, it seems that this site is under spiritual attack. I thought that that Aquarius crap had died a silent death and was left to rot years ago, but my own tin foil hat seems to have failed to protect me against wishful thinking.
This is a music site yes, but this subforum litterally called "General discussion - Discuss any topic at all that is not music-related" so whats your problem here?
If you think its BS, totally fine, but why do you act like someone offended you?
Sounds to me like: "kill them, they want to bring us love!!"
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 02:13
moshkito wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
A think a song is called for.
The Fifth Dimension - Age of Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In
...
Hi,
Actually the original songs from the musical were much better and meant a lot more than the over rated 5th something or other!
Whoooollleyyyyy crap, I'm going to have to consult: I actually agree on something that Pedro said
Though admittedly the movie version (from 79) are even better than the original Broadway musical versions (68/9)
I mean those arrangements (especially that incrediblt funky bass) are sooo awesome that it gives an almost-proggy touch.
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 02:20
Mind_Drive wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
I actually read that whole thing, and this sentence caught my attention more than the others:
Mind_Drive wrote:
With this cosmic event - the timing of which cannot be
predicted, but which (in my opinion and
in the opinion of many others) is very likely to happen within the next 6
months
OK, if this doesn't happen in the next six months, you have some explaining to do. I'm not going to be a happy camper if I don't get my cosmic event!
By the way, Primary Anomaly would make a great band name.
Thanks for taking your time!
If it does indeed take longer, I will try and explain :)
and you are right, awesome band name! :D
Man With Hat wrote:
If it doesn't correlate to the extinction of mankind, I don't want to hear about it.
I'm afraid, those timelines are no longer possible tho ;) If you'd really want that, you should have joined the black sun worshipping satanists a long time ago and do dark rituals 24/7 but I would've not advise it, since it could lead you too far astray..
Souls, who have fallen so deep from grace that they are not able to step into the light by their own free will, will have to be carried into the galactic central sun, where their existence will be annihiliated and their essence totally transmuted back into light. This is not a fun process and indeed one of the saddest things about this whole story.. Imagine you once knew a soul - maybe even someone who you were really close to - that has chosen to experience darkness to the point they are no longer able to return. Physical death is only a transition, but for a soul being sent into the central sun it means utter annihilation.. So be glad you did not chose a darker path, so you - like the vast majority of humanity - will easily be able to integrate and transmute their own shadows, once the veil is lifted, to fully heal from all scars our souls have gathered over the countless lifetimes in this 3rd density hell we were conditioned to accept as our sad reality.
I wish satanists could put an end to this horrid sh*t stain that is the human race, but sadly it will take something a bit more powerful than dancing around in the woods with carcasses and sacrificing children to tempt the dark lord of all to take us all away.
------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 02:34
Jackie DeShannon - What the World Needs Now is LOVE!
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 03:26
Mind_Drive wrote:
The folowing is probably either the craziest thing you have ever read
Most probably another crappy spiritualist nonsense.
Mind_Drive wrote:
or it will expand your consciousness and instantly set you free from the matrix.
Seriously? I always thought astrology is one of the milestones (albeit a lesser one) of the "system". The Matrix? Come on, it is just a movie. Learn to interpret works of arts like the Chinese.
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 03:30
i confirm, guys, it's coming. And it's called Samadhi
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 03:48
The Zodiac: Cosmic Sounds - Aquarius - The Lover of Life
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 05:38
Indeed, The Zodiacs is a great band, the singer sounds like Jim Morrison declaming in "An american prayer". All the freshness of the early hippie era.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 05:45
oliverstoned wrote:
Indeed, The Zodiacs is a great band, the singer sounds like Jim Morrison declaming in "An american prayer". All the freshness of the early hippie era.
I was dazed and amazed to find that CD album in HMV in Derby, and the other 11 signs of the zodiac on the album sound equally good too. The starry-eyed narrator on Cosmic Sounds reminds me of the "Witchfinder General" Vincent Price.
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 05:53
Hippies: stop killing plants and putting them in your hair. What harm have they ever done to you? and think of the starving vegetarians maaan....
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 06:41
ExittheLemming wrote:
Hippies: stop killing plants and putting them in your hair. What harm have they ever done to you? and think of the starving vegetarians maaan....
I thought it was only hippies who go to San Francisco who are sure to wear some flowers in their hair.
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 07:00
I get the impression that I will have to start taking mind altering substances just to keep up with this forum.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 07:10
And don't forget the lava lamps and Moody Blues albums! In Search Of The Lost Chord is a must. OOOOOMM!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 07:12
Sean Trane wrote:
moshkito wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
A think a song is called for.
The Fifth Dimension - Age of Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In
...
Hi,
Actually the original songs from the musical were much better and meant a lot more than the over rated 5th something or other!
Whoooollleyyyyy crap, I'm going to have to consult: I actually agree on something that Pedro said
Though admittedly the movie version (from 79) are even better than the original Broadway musical versions (68/9)
I mean those arrangements (especially that incrediblt funky bass) are sooo awesome that it gives an almost-proggy touch.
Hi,
Don't stop there ... Three Dog Night stole more songs than anyone ... and Capability Brown's version of LIAR is way better ... and the HAIR songs ... commercial jingles is all they were ... and the Theater and the play got nothing for it!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 07:12
What is the "galactic central sun?" Sagittarius A* is considered a supermassive black hole.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 07:13
^ So much for the coming rapture!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 07:17
lazland wrote:
I get the impression that I will have to start taking mind altering substances just to keep up with this forum.
Hi,
At the time, I was a weergin ... so you know and I never really took much of anything until 1972 ... but the whole SF thing with flowers in your hair, is pathetic, and set up an invasion on Haight and Ashbury that is still hated today and pathetic.
All of a sudden, the music didn't mean anything and only the girls with flowers in their hair teasing all the boys was the issue ... so to speak ... and it was sick. It became the California motto ... you got the dope you get the lay. And many people took advantage of it.
This was when you learned, quickly, that the whole thing was getting into the hands of the commercial and corporate interests, because they had a hard time dealing with the music and musicians ... but one song, kinda ruined a lot of things for me. SF was never the same after that and the scene became a dope nightmare that took away many lives in the next few years! )Not that it might not have done so anyway, but the addition of more people to it, made it worse(
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 07:19
^ bloody conformist!
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 07:19
progaardvark wrote:
What is the "galactic central sun?" Sagittarius A* is considered a supermassive black hole.
Anyone who's careless enough to approach Sagittarius A* too closely can expect to encounter "Spaghettification": the theoretical stretching of an object as it encounters extreme differences in gravitational forces, especially those associated with a black hole.
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 07:51
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
What is the "galactic central sun?" Sagittarius A* is considered a supermassive black hole.
Anyone who's careless enough to approach Sagittarius A* too closely can expect to encounter "Spaghettification": the theoretical stretching of an object as it encounters extreme differences in gravitational forces, especially those associated with a black hole.
Indeed Paul. This is something we both agree on wholeheartedly.
I sometimes wonder if there is an astronomical phenomenon that with lasagnify something. The universe could use more lasagna.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 07:54
progaardvark wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
What is the "galactic central sun?" Sagittarius A* is considered a supermassive black hole.
Anyone who's careless enough to approach Sagittarius A* too closely can expect to encounter "Spaghettification": the theoretical stretching of an object as it encounters extreme differences in gravitational forces, especially those associated with a black hole.
Indeed Paul. This is something we both agree on wholeheartedly.
I sometimes wonder if there is an astronomical phenomenon that with lasagnify something. The universe could use more lasagna.
Presumably, if something is "lasagnified", it's flattened like a sheet of lasagne.
Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 07:57
progaardvark wrote:
What is the "galactic central sun?" Sagittarius A* is considered a supermassive black hole.
You are right, it is considered a supermassive black hole, but our mainstream science is mostly unaware of the higher planes of existence (ofcourse they are, because truth would set us free).
On a more subtle level, it is equally giving! It is the source of love and light of our galaxy, transmitting source energy to all living beings inside of it. Actually, like all things, it is a consciousness, a very powerful one, our galactic goddess.
We have to step out of our limiting worldview to understand this, but this is what all mysticism and recently even science hints at:
All is One - One Consciousness
One Love
One Light
One Truth
Lets hear, what the fathers of quantum physics have to say..
Max Planck:
As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clearheaded science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. . . . We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.
We are the drop in the ocean and the ocean in the drop! We are Source experiencing itself through us..
Or Niels Bohr put it:
A physicist is just an atom's way of looking at itself.
It doesn't matter if you (dont) want to call it God, Krishna, Allah, the Universe or Source.. it is even the ultimate truth to be found through science. Werner Heisenberg:
“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.”
let that sink in...
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Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 08:13
moshkito wrote:
lazland wrote:
I get the impression that I will have to start taking mind altering substances just to keep up with this forum.
Hi,
At the time, I was a weergin ... so you know and I never really took much of anything until 1972 ... but the whole SF thing with flowers in your hair, is pathetic, and set up an invasion on Haight and Ashbury that is still hated today and pathetic.
All of a sudden, the music didn't mean anything and only the girls with flowers in their hair teasing all the boys was the issue ... so to speak ... and it was sick. It became the California motto ... you got the dope you get the lay. And many people took advantage of it.
This was when you learned, quickly, that the whole thing was getting into the hands of the commercial and corporate interests, because they had a hard time dealing with the music and musicians ... but one song, kinda ruined a lot of things for me. SF was never the same after that and the scene became a dope nightmare that took away many lives in the next few years! )Not that it might not have done so anyway, but the addition of more people to it, made it worse(
Ofcourse, like everything within this matrix, positive movements are highjacked, commercialized and twisted as soon as they get too powerful. they also realized what huge raise in consciousness the use of psychedelic substances can cause in the population and made everything illegal..
but those were different times.. now we have the internet which is connecting us and evolving us into an hyperintelligent hivemind, which can experience rapid and massive swings in consciousness.. this is the time guys!
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 08:24
I used to be of the common opinion here that astrology and other metaphysical sciences were rubbish but after having had many personal experiences that are utterly unexplainable as well as astrological readings that were eerily accurate, i had to change my tune. The coming age isn't necessarily about the age of Aquarius but rather an energetic bifurcation of consciousness that allows our consciousness to interlope between dimensional realities. This stuff will not register with those who haven't studied keylontic sciences and one has to have had personal experiences to validate that these beyond the physical are real but when the universe is ready to contact you by whatever means, there's no denying that our five senses are a pittance among the vastness of the energetic universe. Mystery schools have been teaching this stuff underground for millennia but the mainstream is only now catching up with newer forms of quantum and plasma physics.
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 08:32
Mind_Drive wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
What is the "galactic central sun?" Sagittarius A* is considered a supermassive black hole.
You are right, it is considered a supermassive black hole, but our mainstream science is mostly unaware of the higher planes of existence (ofcourse they are, because truth would set us free).
On a more subtle level, it is equally giving! It is the source of love and light of our galaxy, transmitting source energy to all living beings inside of it. Actually, like all things, it is a consciousness, a very powerful one, our galactic goddess.
We have to step out of our limiting worldview to understand this, but this is what all mysticism and recently even science hints at:
All is One - One Consciousness
One Love
One Light
One Truth
Lets hear, what the fathers of quantum physics have to say..
Max Planck:
As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clearheaded science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. . . . We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.
We are the drop in the ocean and the ocean in the drop! Source is experiencing itself through us..
Or Niels Bohr put it:
A physicist is just an atom's way of looking at itself.
It doesn't matter if you (dont) want to call it God, Krishna, Allah, the Universe or Source.. it is even the ultimate truth to be found through science. Werner Heisenberg:
“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.”
let that sink in...
Thank you very much for replying. That's an interesting way of looking at it. You'll have to forgive me for my ignorance because my worldview has generally been based on science, so I don't necessarily understand much of what you have posted in this thread.
I have been reading some of the works from the folks at the University of Virginia's Division of Perceptual Studies (right now in the middle of reading Irreducible Mind), so I'm aware that there are two camps in the psychology field: one that believes consciousness arises from our brains, and one that believes (or maybe "alludes to" is a better phrase) that consciousness is more than just the mind. They've been studying this for decades and it would seem that consciousness appears to survive death. I find the memories of past lives case studies fascinating and hope to read more on this as I've only watched a video or two of Jim Tucker giving presentations.
So that's kind of where I'm at on this. So Archons and Reptilians and the central galactic sun are just going over my head.
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Posted By: triptych
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 11:10
I was born under a lucky sign then
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 11:18
triptych wrote:
I was born under a lucky sign then
Astrology's name comes from astra, stars. There have always been 13 zodiacal constellations, but the charlatans somehow chose to create a system out of the 12. Some say it is because of the seasons and months (12). But THEN, its name (astrology) DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!!
In the 13 sign system, I'm an Aquarius.
BTW, this is my favourite "spiritual" song. I love it. Perhaps listened to it thousands of times.
A part of its lyrics: "Open your eyes, release your astral ties, and you will transcend beyond the stars."
P.S. At 3.48, another song begins and continues for some time. It's my second favourite of them (Keldian): The Last Frontier.
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 12:04
OMG !!! It's true !
It took 50 years of subjecting our precious mortal coils to the onslaught of prog rock but the brutal effects are finally known.
Complete mental breakdown as the mind gets sucked into the deep vacuum of time signatures that is the world of progressive music.
We should have seen it coming.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 12:08
JD wrote:
OMG !!! It's true !
It took 50 years of subjecting our precious mortal coils to the onslaught of prog rock but the brutal effects are finally known.
Complete mental breakdown as the mind gets sucked into the deep vacuum of time signatures that is the world of progressive music.
We should have seen it coming.
Mind gets sucked? For the believers, yes. It is As-troll-ogy, actually. If I were a believer, I'd feel like a desperate fish. I'm a Pisces in the 12-sign classical Western Astrology.
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 12:30
Mind_Drive wrote:
Here are a few links:
Overview of the most important articles by CoBra (the
speaker of the Resistance Movement):
OK, I wanted to see if these links would explain what it is that you are talking about. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. These blogs read more like science fiction and none of them provided me with any evidence that any of this is real.
So, although I appreciate that I don't fully understand consciousness and other planes or levels of existence, you have to do a lot better than this to convince me of the existence of the Archons from the Andromeda Galaxy and their genetically engineered Draconian (Buck Rogers in the 25th Century??) and Reptilian races.
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Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 13:20
progaardvark wrote:
Mind_Drive wrote:
Here are a few links:
Overview of the most important articles by CoBra (the
speaker of the Resistance Movement):
OK, I wanted to see if these links would explain what it is that you are talking about. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. These blogs read more like science fiction and none of them provided me with any evidence that any of this is real.
So, although I appreciate that I don't fully understand consciousness and other planes or levels of existence, you have to do a lot better than this to convince me of the existence of the Archons from the Andromeda Galaxy and their genetically engineered Draconian (Buck Rogers in the 25th Century??) and Reptilian races.
The thing is, that this kind of information is aimed at people who actually feel that it truth to it, and don't want to convince anyone (if they even could). People like me, who are involved in this, have an inner knowing not many people have yet access to. It is part of the Matrix programming and etheric implants. They did everything to disconnect peoples mind from their heart and declared the masculine principle (ratio) to the ultimate instance of decision making. Without the love and compassion of the feminine aspect tho, it tends to decide and act from a place of fear and lack (ego) instead of acting from the heart (higher self) and thus often creating pain in the process.
When it comes to discerning truth from false, you can not only count on your ratio, it needs to go hand in hand with your intuition, especially for those things that go beyond our 3D understanding of reality..
sorry for preaching again but im in the mood
We are all eternal beings of light that currently experience a (very limmited) life as a human here on earth. All of us have lived countless of lives.. We have been roaming the stars before we came here on earth. Some of us even came here with only one mission: to transmute duality from within! (btw, i'm pretty sure I have my origins in the andromeda galaxy ;)
Incarnating in this slave matrix has made us forget our origins.. but we are in this fight for eons! When you go on your journey back to your true self, you start to remember things and you learn to easily discern true from false light and false intel from true intel.
Sadly I can't prove those things to you, it is up to you to learn to discern..
Often it is just our ego standing in the way of broadening our perspective, beacuse it receives everything that threatens its sense of safety as to be avoided at all cost. And giving up old belivesystems about oneself and reality as a whole feels not safe at all at first..
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 13:40
Smoking a 100 bowls of this stuff might cause you to write such posts.......
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 14:01
Catcher10 wrote:
Smoking a 100 bowls of this stuff might cause you to write such posts.......
<snip image>
Actually, I think this is much better for your (mental) health than what he took. What he took is called "indoctrination"...
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Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 18:27
suitkees wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
Smoking a 100 bowls of this stuff might cause you to write such posts.......
<snip image>
Actually, I think this is much better for your (mental) health than what he took. What he took is called "indoctrination"...
Yeah, I indoctrinated myself through countless hours of research and meditation, you should try that too - works really well
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 23:15
I just want to say......Far out dude!
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 08:46
Mind_Drive wrote:
suitkees wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
Smoking a 100 bowls of this stuff might cause you to write such posts.......
<snip image>
Actually, I think this is much better for your (mental) health than what he took. What he took is called "indoctrination"...
Yeah, I indoctrinated myself through countless hours of research and meditation, you should try that too - works really well
Without my intial barking in this thread, I would not call things "working out really well" if this means mixing up science fiction with esoteric and occult concoctions in the vein of Christian Rosenkreutz meets Captain Kirk. And piling up Jesus, Buddha, Hermes T. and St. Germain on one and the same stack does not make sense either.
I'd rather prefer the solid ground beneath my feet over head in the clouds and legs in the air.
But at least the statement about COVID-19 and NWO seems to offer a glimpse of reality.
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Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 11:05
someone_else wrote:
Mind_Drive wrote:
suitkees wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
Smoking a 100 bowls of this stuff might cause you to write such posts.......
<snip image>
Actually, I think this is much better for your (mental) health than what he took. What he took is called "indoctrination"...
Yeah, I indoctrinated myself through countless hours of research and meditation, you should try that too - works really well
Without my intial barking in this thread, I would not call things "working out really well" if this means mixing up science fiction with esoteric and occult concoctions in the vein of Christian Rosenkreutz meets Captain Kirk. And piling up Jesus, Buddha, Hermes T. and St. Germain on one and the same stack does not make sense either.
I'd rather prefer the solid ground beneath my feet over head in the clouds and legs in the air.
But at least the statement about COVID-19 and NWO seems to offer a glimpse of reality.
for your last statement!
For the Pile: All those guys, ascended masters, are made from the same stuff that we are made of. they simply managed to ascend (escape) from this prison planet before us. we are literally no different than jesus et. al, equally divine and even as powerful, once we evolve into the state of sonsciousness he is in. (yes we will be able to meet him and all the others, once we are reunited with our galactic kin.)
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 11:28
^ you are so right but many choose to linger in darkness addicted to the left / right brain imbalances that cause a disconnect from the greater universe. I've been on this same path all my life. While some of the claims of the world of the so-called enlightenment movement are calculated disinfo, the whole evolutionary aspect of reactivating our dormant DNA and other metaphysical principles are quite real. Unfortunately there are too many dark forces preventing humanity from achieving the ascension process. If anyone thinks this is nonsense all you need study is scalar energy which is finally coming of age after being suppressed since the great works of Nikola Tesla.
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 12:12
Sorry for the "spoilers", or spoiling the magic.
Aliens and all that jazz? Hmm. There's a good chance that aliens exist. We or our descendents can meet them too, even our ancestors might have met them. Possibilities, possibilities... Unless scientifically proven, I'll not believe this stuff. The typical spiritualist alien stories are like sci-fi to me. If I had to guess, I'd say they are like the older dragon myths. They have some intersection points with religions too, albeit not fundamentally. Their confluence may make some "confluxed", as is observed.
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 13:46
Shadowyzard wrote:
Sorry for the "spoilers", or spoiling the magic.
Aliens and all that jazz? Hmm. There's a good chance that aliens exist. We or our descendents can meet them too, even our ancestors might have met them. Possibilities, possibilities... Unless scientifically proven, I'll not believe this stuff. The typical spiritualist alien stories are like sci-fi to me. If I had to guess, I'd say they are like the older dragon myths. They have some intersection points with religions too, albeit not fundamentally. Their confluence may make some "confluxed", as is observed.
Except for the fact that ages, epochs and timelines aren't religion. They are processions of events that lead up an evolutionary ladder at a multi-dimensional level. Religions are based on ascended masters teaching principles of nature that have become occulted in the lands of kings and tyrants. They seek to liberate the human mind and once beyond the Earthly realm, their teachings are slandered and distorted into the ossified forms of what we call religion.
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 13:48
^ This is a good album. From Hawaii!
Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 16:16
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Except for the fact that ages, epochs and timelines aren't religion. They are processions of events that lead up an evolutionary ladder at a multi-dimensional level. Religions are based on ascended masters teaching principles of nature that have become occulted in the lands of kings and tyrants. They seek to liberate the human mind and once beyond the Earthly realm, their teachings are slandered and distorted into the ossified forms of what we call religion.
BOOOOOM!
Shadowyzard wrote:
Aliens and all that jazz? Hmm. There's a good chance that aliens exist. We or our descendents can meet them too, even our ancestors might have met them. Possibilities, possibilities... Unless scientifically proven, I'll not believe this stuff. The typical spiritualist alien stories are like sci-fi to me. If I had to guess, I'd say they are like the older dragon myths. They have some intersection points with religions too, albeit not fundamentally. Their confluence may make some "confluxed", as is observed.
Thing is, even dragons exist. They have become myths, just because those beings reside in a higher frequency state (in higher dimensions) and we simply can't perceive the with our limited 3D senses (anymore). To tune into their frequency, we would need to increase our own vibration drastically. Thats how millions of spacecrafts are able to reside in sublunar space and in the outer earths atmosphere without being detected by humans. They are able to materialize and de-materialize on will and by folding space they can travel in no-time.
It's only our limited worldview, that prevents us from understanding this greater reality (and those, who control mainstream science, don't want this to change..).
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 16:32
Unless scientifically proven, I'll not believe this stuff
This.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 16:47
Pamela Polland - Here Comes the Sun (from her glowing album "Hawaiianized")
Pamela Polland was formerly one half of the Psychedelic Folk duo, Gentle Soul.
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 21:41
siLLy puPPy wrote:
^ you are so right but many choose to linger in darkness addicted to the left / right brain imbalances that cause a disconnect from the greater universe. I've been on this same path all my life. While some of the claims of the world of the so-called enlightenment movement are calculated disinfo, the whole evolutionary aspect of reactivating our dormant DNA and other metaphysical principles are quite real. Unfortunately there are too many dark forces preventing humanity from achieving the ascension process. If anyone thinks this is nonsense all you need study is scalar energy which is finally coming of age after being suppressed since the great works of Nikola Tesla.
Scalar energy? All energy is a scalar quantity. That's like saying wet water.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 06:55
progaardvark wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
^ you are so right but many choose to linger in darkness addicted to the left / right brain imbalances that cause a disconnect from the greater universe. I've been on this same path all my life. While some of the claims of the world of the so-called enlightenment movement are calculated disinfo, the whole evolutionary aspect of reactivating our dormant DNA and other metaphysical principles are quite real. Unfortunately there are too many dark forces preventing humanity from achieving the ascension process. If anyone thinks this is nonsense all you need study is scalar energy which is finally coming of age after being suppressed since the great works of Nikola Tesla.
Scalar energy? All energy is a scalar quantity. That's like saying wet water.
Au contraire.
The standard definition of scalar waves is that they are created by a pair of identical (or
replicant)
waves (usually called the wave and its
antiwave
) that are in ph
ase spatially, but out of
phase
temporally. That is to say,
the two waves are physically identical
, but out of phase in
terms of
time. The net result is that scalar waves are a whole different animal from normal Hertzian
waves. They even look different
—
li
ke an infinitely projected mobius pattern on axis
.
In the "New Age" community there has been much talk of the benefit of things like
Tachyons,
Radionics, and Pyramids, etc. Analysis shows that these are all, at heart, most likely
scalar
generating
(or har
vesting) devices
and another....
Scalar energy was discovered many years ago, but since then it has
largely become forgotten. Even today, scalar energy is misunderstood,
undervalued and underused. One must take a look at the past to
understand the future ahead.
James Clark Maxwell, a Scottish scientist born in 1831, first
discovered scalar Energy. Maxwell made great contributions in the field
of mathematical physics. He formulated the theories of electromagnetic
radiation and electromagnetic fields.
Then Nikola Tesla, a Yugoslavian mathematical and mechanical
engineer, advanced Maxwell’s findings and invented machines which proved
the existence of Scalar Energy. He found two energies existing in the
universe: electromagnetic energy, which is broadly accepted and
utilized, and scalar energy, which is poorly understood and presently
disregarded. Tesla described Scalar energy as standing energy or
universal waves, which can be transmitted without loss. He believed that
Scalar Energy is a primal force in nature. It is free, renewable and
always available. He thought that if scalar energy was harnessed
correctly, it could have almost limitless possibilities.
Because of his great work in scalar energy for energy transfer,
Nikola Tesla is generally considered as the father of scalar
electromagnetics.
The existence of this form of energy was later acknowledged by Albert
Einstein, who wrote papers referring to scalar field during the 1920s.
Scalar Energy is non-linear and non-Hertzian. The field has the
capacity to carry information which does not reduce with the passing of
time or distance.
Scalar Energy is depicted to be without frequency, so it can’t be
measured by contemporary frequency instruments. This form of energy is
static and stationary. When two similar frequencies coming from opposite
directions
intersect, they cancel each other out. This leads to a stationary energy form – Scalar Energy.
Scalar Energy is not like traditional energy, flowing out in the form
of waves. Instead, it expands outward in vortices of energy. Scalar
energy has always existed in the universe. It is created naturally.
Scalar fields can
also be created artificially by applying the right conditions.
Scalar energy is known for its healing properties. It is applied to
reduce and possibly eliminate many forms of diseases. Knowledge of
scalar energy has been misunderstood by most people since its discovery
more than 150
years ago, and it is not formally taught in schools.
Now you have a better understanding of scalar energy, and the magical benefits it can provide.
__________________________________
In other words, the true advancement of physics has been suppressed for the last century advancing mainly through clandestine government black budget projects and the military industrial complex. Physics and other sciences taught in public institutions are woefully outdated and with the advancement of understanding of scalar energy we have in effect discovered the interdimensional nature that embodies consciousness, the space-time continuum and what many refer to as spirituality.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 07:43
oh brother.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 08:05
I'm waiting for the "post-materalist science" crap. You're so predictable, spiritualists.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 08:07
And so are you anti spiritualists, I dare say.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 08:08
Anti? I'm happy to be predictable in such contexts.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 08:12
As long as no one can prove without a shadow of a doubt that consciousness is only a function of the brain, spiritualists will be around for a long time, I'm afraid.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 08:22
^ You changed "anti materialilst" to "anti spiritualist". Please clarify it next time you do something like this.
1-) I didn't give it any thought before. I'm more of a "anti-spiritualist" than an "anti spiritualilsm", I guess. Perhaps post-spiritualists can convince me on some things about their "field"(?)
2-) Material world does not disappear. So it is not a philosophical issue. Post-materialism is pure garbage for me, for this reason.
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 08:25
SteveG wrote:
As long as no one can prove without a shadow of a doubt that consciousness is only a function of the brain, spiritualists will be around for a long time, I'm afraid.
This has all been proven. You're just not paying attention. The whole term anti-matterists and whatever crazy terminology has been devised forgets that matter is nothing more than energy vibrating at a certain frequency! Spirit science is real. Every single thing, both material and non have a signature spectral frequency that can be replicated. These things have been taught in ancient cultures (ie. Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism etc) for millennia and only now with the discovery of quantum physics and scalar energy are they being proven through modern methodologies.
Charlatans and sophistry exist in these domains for sure but these cult figures rely on charisma to offer their version of snake oil products and not the actual scientific method. This is a young science for sure and there are many unknowns of course! Did microwaves not exist 1000s of years ago simply because we didn't know about them? Skepticism is a good thing but exploration and discovery relies on an investigative openness that allows the field of probabilities to express themselves in a way that advancement can be obtained through the rigorousness observation.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 08:58
siLLy puPPy wrote:
SteveG wrote:
As long as no one can prove without a shadow of a doubt that consciousness is only a function of the brain, spiritualists will be around for a long time, I'm afraid.
This has all been proven. You're just not paying attention. The whole term anti-matterists and whatever crazy terminology has been devised forgets that matter is nothing more than energy vibrating at a certain frequency! Spirit science is real. Every single thing, both material and non have a signature spectral frequency that can be replicated. These things have been taught in ancient cultures (ie. Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism etc) for millennia and only now with the discovery of quantum physics and scalar energy are they being proven through modern methodologies.
Charlatans and sophistry exist in these domains for sure but these cult figures rely on charisma to offer their version of snake oil products and not the actual scientific method. This is a young science for sure and there are many unknowns of course! Did microwaves not exist 1000s of years ago simply because we didn't know about them? Skepticism is a good thing but exploration and discovery relies on an investigative openness that allows the field of probabilities to express themselves in a way that advancement can be obtained through the rigorousness observation.
Oh, I was paying attention. I just don't agree. When an emotion can be proved to be an energy vibrating at a certain frequency, then I'll agree.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 09:00
Shadowyzard wrote:
^ You changed "anti materialilst" to "anti spiritualist". Please clarify it next time you do something like this.
1-) I didn't give it any thought before. I'm more of a "anti-spiritualist" than an "anti spiritualilsm", I guess. Perhaps post-spiritualists can convince me on some things about their "field"(?)
2-) Material world does not disappear. So it is not a philosophical issue. Post-materialism is pure garbage for me, for this reason.
My apologies. You were very quick to respond and I didn't see it. The spirit really moved you.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 09:04
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 09:14
SteveG wrote:
...
Oh, I was paying attention. I just don't agree. When an emotion can be proved to be an energy vibrating at a certain frequency, then I'll agree.
Hi,
Steve, this has been proven, but it is slightly buried underneath the hardcore studies into "non-ordinary" perceptions and how they work. This "psycho-analytical" series of studies is now over 50 years old and getting really neat and detailed. (ie. The Way of a Seer, for example)
The only issue is that we are too cozy in not giving a darn about learning something else ... what else is new? It will change your "god" views?
Time for a cup of tea!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 09:19
Shadowyzard wrote:
^ You changed "anti materialilst" to "anti spiritualist". Please clarify it next time you do something like this.
1-) I didn't give it any thought before. I'm more of a "anti-spiritualist" than an "anti spiritualilsm", I guess. Perhaps post-spiritualists can convince me on some things about their "field"(?)
2-) Material world does not disappear. So it is not a philosophical issue. Post-materialism is pure garbage for me, for this reason.
Hi,
Shadow ... my friend, this is getting into areas where I am right, and you are not and vice versa. What is in the "field" is a personal attention ... not a discussion about what I see and what you see, since the colors and perceptions might not be the same!
My favorite thing to say, is that no one ... NO ONE ... can ever say that there is no reality to the "inner" world of our physical/elemental domain. Sop anyone saying that a dream is not real, or a vision is not real or that a perception is not real, I would think that those folks have absolutely no criteria available to disprove that reality whatsoever ... and that "difference" has been the demarcation line for a lot of "occult" and difficult behaviors from the dark ages. It was mostly, defined and designed by religions to prevent the "flock" from leaving ... and like sheep (Robert Penn Warren), we didn't!
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 09:20
^ The problem with all of us is that we believe all of science to be empirical fact when most of it is theory. The Theory of Relativity is still called the Theory of Relativity. Unless we know what happened before the Big Bang it will remain a theory. The same with all of these investigations that propose that thought is material in some way. Sorry, but it's just theory.
(General and Special Relativity are provable mathematically only up to a certain point, the rest is speculation.)
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 09:30
moshkito wrote:
Shadowyzard wrote:
^ You changed "anti materialilst" to "anti spiritualist". Please clarify it next time you do something like this.
1-) I didn't give it any thought before. I'm more of a "anti-spiritualist" than an "anti spiritualilsm", I guess. Perhaps post-spiritualists can convince me on some things about their "field"(?)
2-) Material world does not disappear. So it is not a philosophical issue. Post-materialism is pure garbage for me, for this reason.
Hi,
Shadow ... my friend, this is getting into areas where I am right, and you are not and vice versa. What is in the "field" is a personal attention ... not a discussion about what I see and what you see, since the colors and perceptions might not be the same!
My favorite thing to say, is that no one ... NO ONE ... can ever say that there is no reality to the "inner" world of our physical/elemental domain. Sop anyone saying that a dream is not real, or a vision is not real or that a perception is not real, I would think that those folks have absolutely no criteria available to disprove that reality whatsoever ... and that "difference" has been the demarcation line for a lot of "occult" and difficult behaviors from the dark ages. It was mostly, defined and designed by religions to prevent the "flock" from leaving ... and like sheep (Robert Penn Warren), we didn't!
Good to be able to discuss with you like this, dude; first of all.
While, I choose not to discuss. Visions? Sure. Prophecies? Sure. I know and witnessed lots of mysteries. I have many explanations, some of which might make most others think that I'm a lunatic, and a few might think I'm a genius or the like... Perhaps a mystic too...
I just choose to be a materialist. It makes me happier and more content.
Love
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 09:53
Now, what scalar energy made me think of this clip?
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 10:43
To quote Shakespeare: "There are more things in heaven and earth Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
And to quote one of my favorite weird writers from the 60's -80's...
" If you think you know what's going on then you are probably full of sh*t."
-Robert Anton Wilson (1932-2007)
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 11:12
^ Whatever science tells, man. Rest is interpretation.
Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 12:42
siLLy puPPy wrote:
In other words, the true advancement of physics has been suppressed for the last century advancing mainly through clandestine government black budget projects and the military industrial complex. Physics and other sciences taught in public institutions are woefully outdated and with the advancement of understanding of scalar energy we have in effect discovered the interdimensional nature that embodies consciousness, the space-time continuum and what many refer to as spirituality.
BOOOOM!! My friend silly puppy delivering one bomb after another
All you guys are awesome! Reading your discussion, one gets the impression you actually want to understand each others viewpoint.. a rare sight in those ages.. thank you for that!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 12:53
SteveG wrote:
^ The problem with all of us is that we believe all of science to be empirical fact when most of it is theory. The Theory of Relativity is still called the Theory of Relativity. Unless we know what happened before the Big Bang it will remain a theory. The same with all of these investigations that propose that thought is material in some way. Sorry, but it's just theory.
(General and Special Relativity are provable mathematically only up to a certain point, the rest is speculation.)
Hi,
Steve ... trust me ... it's gone way beyond that ... and the Theory of Relativity does not apply, connect or parallel any of it ... it's why it is a "theory" ... and a theory is not a reality ... so us thinking it is the "law" is akin to a religion ... believing just because someone said so, and we think they know more than we do ...
The studies on "psychic" phenomena have gotten to be insanely amazing with many PHDs out there ... writing fantastic articles about many details of the inner "experience", and it has been so for 50 years, and these studies are not a fallacy, and neither are they stupid and the details of the "investigating" are exceptional, many times "scientific" and very scholarly.
The only thing that is sad is equating it with an idea that was dead in its premise and then having to have us debate with some folks that are simply not well educated in this area, and their fixation is what "they know", and what they "don't know" is not valid ... and that is one of the worst implications of these discussions ... and it becomes a sort of religious ground for the flock -- so to speak!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 13:03
siLLy puPPy wrote:
In other words, the true advancement of physics has been suppressed for the last century advancing mainly through clandestine government black budget projects and the military industrial complex. Physics and other sciences taught in public institutions are woefully outdated and with the advancement of understanding of scalar energy we have in effect discovered the interdimensional nature that embodies consciousness, the space-time continuum and what many refer to as spirituality.
Hi,
It is so, mainly because of its eccentric and (somewhat) exclusive nature ... not because of its contents and studies. The problem is HOW we are brought up and taught, which from day one (and even before some studies suggest!!!), are almost exclusively against the advanced "studies" in all aspects, and your education in schools is even worse ... you don't really get to the "main topic" (so to speak) until you are into your post graduate studies and working on a PHD, for example ... you are, sort of, dumb, to even talk to the professors BEFORE you get that PHD.
It's the same in religions ... although in a couple of them, there is not much emphasis on the dogma as much as there is a lot of emphasis on the person delivering, many of which are "self-appointed" because they can "see" and "hear" their dreams and visions, which they consider ... "God" and separates him/her from the rest of the folks around them, and at that point anyone mentioning dreams and visions is always thought to just seeing things that don't matter to the person in charge! (... no competition, right?)
Once we "let go" of these tendencies, and for many of us, this is a lifetime of studying and application, we can see something else at work and learn more ... but before then ... it's nothing, but just a bunch of words that are best described as an "opinion" ... and that often has very little to do with any possible truth in the matter ...
Remember that!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 13:13
Shadowyzard wrote:
^ Whatever science tells, man. Rest is interpretation.
It's all interpretation.....but you might like this book..read it some years ago...nice summary of some of the great science mysteries still unsolved.
When I was a young man, like yourself, ...I thought science was it.....now that I am older and wiser I realize just how little we really understand about the nature of Reality.
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 13:36
moshkito wrote:
SteveG wrote:
^ The problem with all of us is that we believe all of science to be empirical fact when most of it is theory. The Theory of Relativity is still called the Theory of Relativity. Unless we know what happened before the Big Bang it will remain a theory. The same with all of these investigations that propose that thought is material in some way. Sorry, but it's just theory. (General and Special Relativity are provable mathematically only up to a certain point, the rest is speculation.)
Hi,
Steve ... trust me ... it's gone way beyond that ... and the Theory of Relativity does not apply, connect or parallel any of it ... it's why it is a "theory" ... and a theory is not a reality ... so us thinking it is the "law" is akin to a religion ... believing just because someone said so, and we think they know more than we do ...
The studies on "psychic" phenomena have gotten to be insanely amazing with many PHDs out there ... writing fantastic articles about many details of the inner "experience", and it has been so for 50 years, and these studies are not a fallacy, and neither are they stupid and the details of the "investigating" are exceptional, many times "scientific" and very scholarly.
The only thing that is sad is equating it with an idea that was dead in its premise and then having to have us debate with some folks that are simply not well educated in this area, and their fixation is what "they know", and what they "don't know" is not valid ... and that is one of the worst implications of these discussions ... and it becomes a sort of religious ground for the flock -- so to speak!
Pedro, believing in this form of psuedo science is just as dangerous as believing in no science at all.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 13:41
dr wu23 wrote:
Shadowyzard wrote:
^ Whatever science tells, man. Rest is interpretation.
It's all interpretation.....but you might like this book..read it some years ago...nice summary of some of the great science mysteries still unsolved.
When I was a young man, like yourself, ...I thought science was it.....now that I am older and wiser I realize just how little we really understand about the nature of Reality.
Science is like a bodily awkward man, with o sound mind. For me. Thus, I take all its "interpretations" for granted, and I take all its "I was wrong"s and "I don't know"s too. Always a step behind, I'm.
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 14:54
moshkito wrote:
The studies on "psychic" phenomena have gotten to be insanely amazing with many PHDs out there ... writing fantastic articles about many details of the inner "experience", and it has been so for 50 years, and these studies are not a fallacy, and neither are they stupid and the details of the "investigating" are exceptional, many times "scientific" and very scholarly.
I stumbled upon this by just wondering if any academics were actually studying "psychic" phenomena. My initial impressions before digging were that this would be all but career-ending for anyone that tried. But I was wrong about that.
There is an entire department at the University of Virginia doing this:
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 15:23
siLLy puPPy wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
^ you are so right but many choose to linger in darkness addicted to the left / right brain imbalances that cause a disconnect from the greater universe. I've been on this same path all my life. While some of the claims of the world of the so-called enlightenment movement are calculated disinfo, the whole evolutionary aspect of reactivating our dormant DNA and other metaphysical principles are quite real. Unfortunately there are too many dark forces preventing humanity from achieving the ascension process. If anyone thinks this is nonsense all you need study is scalar energy which is finally coming of age after being suppressed since the great works of Nikola Tesla.
Scalar energy? All energy is a scalar quantity. That's like saying wet water.
Au contraire.
The standard definition of scalar waves is that they are created by a pair of identical (or
replicant)
waves (usually called the wave and its
antiwave
) that are in ph
ase spatially, but out of
phase
temporally. That is to say,
the two waves are physically identical
, but out of phase in
terms of
time. The net result is that scalar waves are a whole different animal from normal Hertzian
waves. They even look different
—
li
ke an infinitely projected mobius pattern on axis
.
In the "New Age" community there has been much talk of the benefit of things like
Tachyons,
Radionics, and Pyramids, etc. Analysis shows that these are all, at heart, most likely
scalar
generating
(or har
vesting) devices
and another....
Scalar energy was discovered many years ago, but since then it has
largely become forgotten. Even today, scalar energy is misunderstood,
undervalued and underused. One must take a look at the past to
understand the future ahead.
James Clark Maxwell, a Scottish scientist born in 1831, first
discovered scalar Energy. Maxwell made great contributions in the field
of mathematical physics. He formulated the theories of electromagnetic
radiation and electromagnetic fields.
Then Nikola Tesla, a Yugoslavian mathematical and mechanical
engineer, advanced Maxwell’s findings and invented machines which proved
the existence of Scalar Energy. He found two energies existing in the
universe: electromagnetic energy, which is broadly accepted and
utilized, and scalar energy, which is poorly understood and presently
disregarded. Tesla described Scalar energy as standing energy or
universal waves, which can be transmitted without loss. He believed that
Scalar Energy is a primal force in nature. It is free, renewable and
always available. He thought that if scalar energy was harnessed
correctly, it could have almost limitless possibilities.
Because of his great work in scalar energy for energy transfer,
Nikola Tesla is generally considered as the father of scalar
electromagnetics.
The existence of this form of energy was later acknowledged by Albert
Einstein, who wrote papers referring to scalar field during the 1920s.
Scalar Energy is non-linear and non-Hertzian. The field has the
capacity to carry information which does not reduce with the passing of
time or distance.
Scalar Energy is depicted to be without frequency, so it can’t be
measured by contemporary frequency instruments. This form of energy is
static and stationary. When two similar frequencies coming from opposite
directions
intersect, they cancel each other out. This leads to a stationary energy form – Scalar Energy.
Scalar Energy is not like traditional energy, flowing out in the form
of waves. Instead, it expands outward in vortices of energy. Scalar
energy has always existed in the universe. It is created naturally.
Scalar fields can
also be created artificially by applying the right conditions.
Scalar energy is known for its healing properties. It is applied to
reduce and possibly eliminate many forms of diseases. Knowledge of
scalar energy has been misunderstood by most people since its discovery
more than 150
years ago, and it is not formally taught in schools.
Now you have a better understanding of scalar energy, and the magical benefits it can provide.
__________________________________
In other words, the true advancement of physics has been suppressed for the last century advancing mainly through clandestine government black budget projects and the military industrial complex. Physics and other sciences taught in public institutions are woefully outdated and with the advancement of understanding of scalar energy we have in effect discovered the interdimensional nature that embodies consciousness, the space-time continuum and what many refer to as spirituality.
I'm not going to comment on the healing properties or black budget projects because these are out of the scope of my knowledge. Your response seems to have been copied and pasted from Spooky2 Scalar and Jon Barron's book Lessons from the Miracle Doctors. I don't think I would have chosen either of these as reliable sources.
I think what we have here is a confusion over terminology. Mass and energy are scalar quantities, as opposed to momentum being a vector quantity. That's why your initial sentence didn't make any sense to me.
What I think you're getting at is scalar waves, or more commonly called longitudinal waves, as opposed to transverse waves. Bohman Zohuri has written a book about this published by Springer in 2019. You can read the preface here, which sort of mirrors some of what you have said: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-3-319-91023-9%2F1.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-3-319-91023-9%2F1.pdf
In any case, I hope that clarifies what I meant. I apologize for the confusion.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 19:01
SteveG wrote:
^ The problem with all of us is that we believe all of science to be empirical fact when most of it is theory. The Theory of Relativity is still called the Theory of Relativity. Unless we know what happened before the Big Bang it will remain a theory. The same with all of these investigations that propose that thought is material in some way. Sorry, but it's just theory.
(General and Special Relativity are provable mathematically only up to a certain point, the rest is speculation.)
You are so right with this, Steve! I realized that when i was in college studying biology. I was the questioning type and would always irritate the teachers by asking logical questions that they didn't have the answers to. We are trained in our educational system to learn procedures NOT how to think critically. And yes, science for the most part is a big bluff of those trying to masquerade as the knowledge keepers.
Even the germ theory is only a theory. There is no proof that viruses are the cause of disease. Other theories include that viruses are the symptom of cellular toxicity due to pollution. Same goes with this stuff. Our friend presented it all as a little too absolute for my tastes but i have been researching all of these things for quite a while and they register high on my probability list.
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 19:03
moshkito wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
In other words, the true advancement of physics has been suppressed for the last century advancing mainly through clandestine government black budget projects and the military industrial complex. Physics and other sciences taught in public institutions are woefully outdated and with the advancement of understanding of scalar energy we have in effect discovered the interdimensional nature that embodies consciousness, the space-time continuum and what many refer to as spirituality.
Hi,
It is so, mainly because of its eccentric and (somewhat) exclusive nature ... not because of its contents and studies. The problem is HOW we are brought up and taught, which from day one (and even before some studies suggest!!!), are almost exclusively against the advanced "studies" in all aspects, and your education in schools is even worse ... you don't really get to the "main topic" (so to speak) until you are into your post graduate studies and working on a PHD, for example ... you are, sort of, dumb, to even talk to the professors BEFORE you get that PHD.
It's the same in religions ... although in a couple of them, there is not much emphasis on the dogma as much as there is a lot of emphasis on the person delivering, many of which are "self-appointed" because they can "see" and "hear" their dreams and visions, which they consider ... "God" and separates him/her from the rest of the folks around them, and at that point anyone mentioning dreams and visions is always thought to just seeing things that don't matter to the person in charge! (... no competition, right?)
Once we "let go" of these tendencies, and for many of us, this is a lifetime of studying and application, we can see something else at work and learn more ... but before then ... it's nothing, but just a bunch of words that are best described as an "opinion" ... and that often has very little to do with any possible truth in the matter ...
Remember that!
You are so right! Most everything i learned has been self study. My years in college were helpful but most advances came from my own disciplines. Having said that, education is fine for learning a select set of skills but creativity does not come from a classroom.
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 19:05
progaardvark wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
^ you are so right but many choose to linger in darkness addicted to the left / right brain imbalances that cause a disconnect from the greater universe. I've been on this same path all my life. While some of the claims of the world of the so-called enlightenment movement are calculated disinfo, the whole evolutionary aspect of reactivating our dormant DNA and other metaphysical principles are quite real. Unfortunately there are too many dark forces preventing humanity from achieving the ascension process. If anyone thinks this is nonsense all you need study is scalar energy which is finally coming of age after being suppressed since the great works of Nikola Tesla.
Scalar energy? All energy is a scalar quantity. That's like saying wet water.
Au contraire.
The standard definition of scalar waves is that they are created by a pair of identical (or
replicant)
waves (usually called the wave and its
antiwave
) that are in ph
ase spatially, but out of
phase
temporally. That is to say,
the two waves are physically identical
, but out of phase in
terms of
time. The net result is that scalar waves are a whole different animal from normal Hertzian
waves. They even look different
—
li
ke an infinitely projected mobius pattern on axis
.
In the "New Age" community there has been much talk of the benefit of things like
Tachyons,
Radionics, and Pyramids, etc. Analysis shows that these are all, at heart, most likely
scalar
generating
(or har
vesting) devices
and another....
Scalar energy was discovered many years ago, but since then it has
largely become forgotten. Even today, scalar energy is misunderstood,
undervalued and underused. One must take a look at the past to
understand the future ahead.
James Clark Maxwell, a Scottish scientist born in 1831, first
discovered scalar Energy. Maxwell made great contributions in the field
of mathematical physics. He formulated the theories of electromagnetic
radiation and electromagnetic fields.
Then Nikola Tesla, a Yugoslavian mathematical and mechanical
engineer, advanced Maxwell’s findings and invented machines which proved
the existence of Scalar Energy. He found two energies existing in the
universe: electromagnetic energy, which is broadly accepted and
utilized, and scalar energy, which is poorly understood and presently
disregarded. Tesla described Scalar energy as standing energy or
universal waves, which can be transmitted without loss. He believed that
Scalar Energy is a primal force in nature. It is free, renewable and
always available. He thought that if scalar energy was harnessed
correctly, it could have almost limitless possibilities.
Because of his great work in scalar energy for energy transfer,
Nikola Tesla is generally considered as the father of scalar
electromagnetics.
The existence of this form of energy was later acknowledged by Albert
Einstein, who wrote papers referring to scalar field during the 1920s.
Scalar Energy is non-linear and non-Hertzian. The field has the
capacity to carry information which does not reduce with the passing of
time or distance.
Scalar Energy is depicted to be without frequency, so it can’t be
measured by contemporary frequency instruments. This form of energy is
static and stationary. When two similar frequencies coming from opposite
directions
intersect, they cancel each other out. This leads to a stationary energy form – Scalar Energy.
Scalar Energy is not like traditional energy, flowing out in the form
of waves. Instead, it expands outward in vortices of energy. Scalar
energy has always existed in the universe. It is created naturally.
Scalar fields can
also be created artificially by applying the right conditions.
Scalar energy is known for its healing properties. It is applied to
reduce and possibly eliminate many forms of diseases. Knowledge of
scalar energy has been misunderstood by most people since its discovery
more than 150
years ago, and it is not formally taught in schools.
Now you have a better understanding of scalar energy, and the magical benefits it can provide.
__________________________________
In other words, the true advancement of physics has been suppressed for the last century advancing mainly through clandestine government black budget projects and the military industrial complex. Physics and other sciences taught in public institutions are woefully outdated and with the advancement of understanding of scalar energy we have in effect discovered the interdimensional nature that embodies consciousness, the space-time continuum and what many refer to as spirituality.
I'm not going to comment on the healing properties or black budget projects because these are out of the scope of my knowledge. Your response seems to have been copied and pasted from Spooky2 Scalar and Jon Barron's book Lessons from the Miracle Doctors. I don't think I would have chosen either of these as reliable sources.
I think what we have here is a confusion over terminology. Mass and energy are scalar quantities, as opposed to momentum being a vector quantity. That's why your initial sentence didn't make any sense to me.
What I think you're getting at is scalar waves, or more commonly called longitudinal waves, as opposed to transverse waves. Bohman Zohuri has written a book about this published by Springer in 2019. You can read the preface here, which sort of mirrors some of what you have said: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-3-319-91023-9%2F1.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-3-319-91023-9%2F1.pdf
In any case, I hope that clarifies what I meant. I apologize for the confusion.
Yep i just copied the best definition i could find on the spot. I didn't have the time to explain in detail and gather the resources to to it. This is a topic well worth investigating. It truly is the wave of the future. Hehe
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 08:09
SteveG wrote:
Pedro, believing in this form of pseudo science is just as dangerous as believing in no science at all.
Hi,
Steve ... at this point it is NOT a matter of belief at all ... to properly study, research something, you have to suspend judgements in order to find a result or some information leading to a result otherwise the "exercise" is just a pat on your back showing how clever you are and it is taken as "true" about this or that ... the "exercise" can not, and will NOT, be able to get past the conception of its design ... same thing with computer programs ... folks rarely upgrade the current one, and instead end up creating a new one ... why? Easy ... the start "engine" is not flexible enough to take it further ... !!!
The best we all can tell each other, is to request that we stop thinking that one thing is right and the other is wrong, and then proceed to "test" and "experiment" what you saw, felt, or otherwise, and then make notes on your bits and pieces. Somewhere in time, later, you will be able to compile your information into a sort of idea of what has taken place, and where your information was altered by your own ideas, and where in the information you were the "Watcher", so you could take notes correctly.
There is, no hocus pocus here. This is about learning what to do with your internal material that many of us can't even describe, and are DEATHLY AFRAID that it will hurt us more if we check into it. It has nothing to do with science any more than it does religion, but for many years, a lot of these studies were being done, and the main difference is the language that was used then and now ... and how it is perceived.
I would like to make a suggestion ... but not sure that it is a good one or not ... but a really good start would be to read WILLIAM JAMES' THE VARIETIES OF RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE. It was, in many ways a book that has helped a lot of people start researching a lot of internal experiences ... with the only problem being that we're too stuck up in our own "culture" to even consider and open our minds to something else.
For me, the 60's (btw) was not about just the drugs and the music ... it was about opening the mind and learning from it ... not to simply get stoned, as almost everyone around me did ... the stupidest thing I have ever seen, and the worst side of the human this and that I have ever seen, specially in a concert ... since then, I have studied and read a lot ... and I will NEVER claim that I know anything ... but I do try and hope people see and understand ... THAT THERE IS MORE OUTSIDE OUR AWARENESS (music included as you well know!!!!!) that we continually refuse to check and learn something from ... and until those residual growth "hormones" are cleared up, the appreciation of something else, is completely stunted ...
I'm not out to change anyone, or to make them better or worse ... I'm merely saying ... we don't know enough to even make out own comments valuable and valid ... I simply try my hardest in this respect and can only hope that people can see the honesty and caring side behind it. I don't "trump" people with the ideas, and neither do I fire them!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 08:42
I've stayed away from this so far, but.........rant begins
I've got many issues with much of the tone of this thread. We all look at life from our own perspectives and, for many of us, we have 'faith' in something more that what we perceive in life. That should be an absolute and unchallenged right. What I cannot agree with or see any justification for, is that because an individual happens to believe a certain 'something', they have any right whatsoever to set about trying to influence others to believe the same thing. That same attitude leads to the cancer (in my personal view) that is organised religion. My book is better/righter/more true than your book etc, etc. and if you don't agree my god will smite you down, or at least His soldiers will.
There are probably thousands of religions in this world and, guess what, you can't all be right. When you look back at the chaos, murder and misery that organised religions have dealt out to the world, I wonder they still exist at all, except that none of them really have anything to do with faith, they're really about men and women finding a way to excerpt control and power over their fellow men and women (again in my personal view).
I'm not discounting that some good that has come out of organised religions, it's just that, in most cases, if they were truer to their principles and not hi-jacked too often by idealists with agendas on power trips, much more good and much less harm would have been done before, now and in the future.
Rant over.
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:52
"There is no religion higher than the truth."
(Theosophy...generally credited to H P Blavatsky...-she was a bit of a con artist herself according to some. ;) )
Or as Crimson once said....'It's only talk...."
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 11:26
Ronstein wrote:
I've stayed away from this so far, but.........rant begins
I've got many issues with much of the tone of this thread. We all look at life from our own perspectives and, for many of us, we have 'faith' in something more that what we perceive in life. That should be an absolute and unchallenged right. What I cannot agree with or see any justification for, is that because an individual happens to believe a certain 'something', they have any right whatsoever to set about trying to influence others to believe the same thing. That same attitude leads to the cancer (in my personal view) that is organised religion. My book is better/righter/more true than your book etc, etc. and if you don't agree my god will smite you down, or at least His soldiers will.
There are probably thousands of religions in this world and, guess what, you can't all be right. When you look back at the chaos, murder and misery that organised religions have dealt out to the world, I wonder they still exist at all, except that none of them really have anything to do with faith, they're really about men and women finding a way to excerpt control and power over their fellow men and women (again in my personal view).
I'm not discounting that some good that has come out of organised religions, it's just that, in most cases, if they were truer to their principles and not hi-jacked too often by idealists with agendas on power trips, much more good and much less harm would have been done before, now and in the future.
Rant over.
The odd thing is that no one made express references to organized religion exept perhaps for the OP. Most here are beyond that, probably.
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Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 12:19
Ronstein wrote:
I've stayed away from this so far, but.........rant begins
I've got many issues with much of the tone of this thread. We all look at life from our own perspectives and, for many of us, we have 'faith' in something more that what we perceive in life. That should be an absolute and unchallenged right. What I cannot agree with or see any justification for, is that because an individual happens to believe a certain 'something', they have any right whatsoever to set about trying to influence others to believe the same thing. That same attitude leads to the cancer (in my personal view) that is organised religion. My book is better/righter/more true than your book etc, etc. and if you don't agree my god will smite you down, or at least His soldiers will.
There are probably thousands of religions in this world and, guess what, you can't all be right. When you look back at the chaos, murder and misery that organised religions have dealt out to the world, I wonder they still exist at all, except that none of them really have anything to do with faith, they're really about men and women finding a way to excerpt control and power over their fellow men and women (again in my personal view).
I'm not discounting that some good that has come out of organised religions, it's just that, in most cases, if they were truer to their principles and not hi-jacked too often by idealists with agendas on power trips, much more good and much less harm would have been done before, now and in the future.
Rant over.
Real Belief is not about "believing this or that, because we don't really know" but rather quite the opposite.
Real belief is a higher knowing, truth felt by the heart and veryfied by higher understanding and direct experience (otherwise why would you believe anything if you didnt have a deep sense of knowing, that it was true?).
Belief in this sence is simply something you can not prove to others because those truths are not easily verifyable by other means than direct experience of the phenomenon itself.
Real Belief is and was only always about TRUTH and REALITY!
Everyone has his own perception of truth, yes - but in the end, there is only one truth. There is only one how and why this universe is the way it is.
We have to get past the idea, that only by ratio we can get to knowledge tho. It was this imbalance of the female and male aspects that created much suffering and misunderstanding in the first place. Through the disconnection between heart and mind, we lost the ability to discern truth from lie and depended solely on our ego mind which was easily deceiveable. Today we let others completely dictate our view of reality but our science is only allowed to circulate within its own limited paradigm (not to speak of almost all religions, which were corrupted as well). We also have to understand, that the most crucial knowledge about reality is not found in mainstream (be it scinece or religion/spirituality) because truth would set us free and we are not supposed to be free.
People have given away so much of their power and can't even imagine being able to find essential truths about this universe within themselves.
But at their core, all religions point to the same thing, and so does science..
This one thing is everything. We are it and it is us. Its simple, yet so beautiful..
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 12:22
moshkito wrote:
SteveG wrote:
Pedro, believing in this form of pseudo science is just as dangerous as believing in no science at all.
Hi,
Steve ... at this point it is NOT a matter of belief at all ... to properly study, research something, you have to suspend judgements in order to find a result or some information leading to a result otherwise the "exercise" is just a pat on your back showing how clever you are and it is taken as "true" about this or that ... the "exercise" can not, and will NOT, be able to get past the conception of its design ... same thing with computer programs ... folks rarely upgrade the current one, and instead end up creating a new one ... why? Easy ... the start "engine" is not flexible enough to take it further ... !!!
The best we all can tell each other, is to request that we stop thinking that one thing is right and the other is wrong, and then proceed to "test" and "experiment" what you saw, felt, or otherwise, and then make notes on your bits and pieces. Somewhere in time, later, you will be able to compile your information into a sort of idea of what has taken place, and where your information was altered by your own ideas, and where in the information you were the "Watcher", so you could take notes correctly.
There is, no hocus pocus here. This is about learning what to do with your internal material that many of us can't even describe, and are DEATHLY AFRAID that it will hurt us more if we check into it. It has nothing to do with science any more than it does religion, but for many years, a lot of these studies were being done, and the main difference is the language that was used then and now ... and how it is perceived.
I would like to make a suggestion ... but not sure that it is a good one or not ... but a really good start would be to read WILLIAM JAMES' THE VARIETIES OF RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE. It was, in many ways a book that has helped a lot of people start researching a lot of internal experiences ... with the only problem being that we're too stuck up in our own "culture" to even consider and open our minds to something else.
For me, the 60's (btw) was not about just the drugs and the music ... it was about opening the mind and learning from it ... not to simply get stoned, as almost everyone around me did ... the stupidest thing I have ever seen, and the worst side of the human this and that I have ever seen, specially in a concert ... since then, I have studied and read a lot ... and I will NEVER claim that I know anything ... but I do try and hope people see and understand ... THAT THERE IS MORE OUTSIDE OUR AWARENESS (music included as you well know!!!!!) that we continually refuse to check and learn something from ... and until those residual growth "hormones" are cleared up, the appreciation of something else, is completely stunted ...
I'm not out to change anyone, or to make them better or worse ... I'm merely saying ... we don't know enough to even make out own comments valuable and valid ... I simply try my hardest in this respect and can only hope that people can see the honesty and caring side behind it. I don't "trump" people with the ideas, and neither do I fire them!
We must be talking past each other Pedro. You're talking to an old seeker whose read enough esoteric texts and experiences of consciousness to fill a library. I went beyond William James in high school right to the Tibetan Book Of The Dead and The Doors Of Perception.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 12:59
Mind_Drive wrote:
But at their core, all religions point to the same thing, and so does science..
I'm quite bored of this nonsense, but felt like I have to teach you some truth. ABSORB IT!
Science accepts it doesn't know everything and sometimes it was wrong, it can be wrong and it will probably be wrong again, and always progressivelly will try its best; while religions are closed systems, or eternal if you prefer. They claim to know lots of things. Most Muslims in my country love a saying: "Only Allah knows what will happen (the future)". I think this is a soothing point of view, but actually lots of people will be "grilled" forever feeling eternal pain, according to their religion. Does science point to something like this?
I guess your Andromedan origins exiled you for some reason. My guess is either as a punishment, or as a mission to learn some real science here on Earth. Or perhaps they sent your "kind" to teach us spirit science and stuff. Can they be the "dark forces" you mention?
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 13:34
Shadowyzard wrote:
Mind_Drive wrote:
But at their core, all religions point to the same thing, and so does science..
I'm quite bored of this nonsense, but felt like I have to teach you some truth. ABSORB IT!
Science accepts it doesn't know everything and sometimes it was wrong, it can be wrong and it will probably be wrong again, and always progressivelly will try its best; while religions are closed systems, or eternal if you prefer. They claim to know lots of things. Most Muslims in my country love a saying: "Only Allah knows what will happen (the future)". I think this is a soothing point of view, but actually lots of people will be "grilled" forever feeling eternal pain, according to their religion. Does science point to something like this?
I guess your Andromedan origins exiled you for some reason. My guess is either as a punishment, or as a mission to learn some real science here on Earth. Or perhaps they sent your "kind" to teach us spirit science and stuff. Can they be the "dark forces" you mention?
Again, I feel that you are another who is focusing on organized religion instead of spirituality. They are not the same thing. To put it simply, spirituality is an aim to grow spiritually. It doesn't have to involve religion. There are many religious people who are for from spiritualists and will probably remain that way.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 13:41
^ Nope. I quoted and replied about a post about religions. I also was talking about the "religion". The Hell concept. Also, conversely, I was talking about how people attribute "powers" to Allah. This is all about "personal interpretations", not about organized religion stuff.
I think spirituality aims at deceiving people, and it took its origins from lunatics or sinister manipulators.
Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 15:00
Shadowyzard wrote:
Mind_Drive wrote:
But at their core, all religions point to the same thing, and so does science..
I'm quite bored of this nonsense, but felt like I have to teach you some truth. ABSORB IT!
Science accepts it doesn't know everything and sometimes it was wrong, it can be wrong and it will probably be wrong again, and always progressivelly will try its best; while religions are closed systems, or eternal if you prefer. They claim to know lots of things. Most Muslims in my country love a saying: "Only Allah knows what will happen (the future)". I think this is a soothing point of view, but actually lots of people will be "grilled" forever feeling eternal pain, according to their religion. Does science point to something like this?
I guess your Andromedan origins exiled you for some reason. My guess is either as a punishment, or as a mission to learn some real science here on Earth. Or perhaps they sent your "kind" to teach us spirit science and stuff. Can they be the "dark forces" you mention?
If you didn't get it by now, it's just because you're not able to figure out the puzzle yourself. All the answers are out there and also found within. I see two or three people here who were able to connect the dots, you others seem to be mostly oblivious to the greater reality. It's only your static beliefsystems that prevent you from true realisation.
Ofcourse anyone who claims his god is THE god (and the others are not), doesnt understand that there is only one god. And anyone who claims only his way is the way to god, doesnt understand, that all religions (at their pure core) are describing the same path just in different ways. Every belief of a punishing god or some place of judgement/hell is deception by the dark to take away our sovereignity. Every believe that nourishes separation or negativity in any way is not from the light and therefore strictly false. They took jesus words and twisted it, they took mohammeds word an twisted it, they even completely twisted the new age movement. This all is the reason why spirituality and religion is in such discredit.
But the fact is, that spirituality and science go perfectly hand in hand on the quest to true understanding. In case you didnt read it, I'll post my favourite quotes here again:
Max
Planck:
"As
a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clearheaded science, to the
study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms
this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only
by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and
holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. . . . We
must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent
Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter."
Niels Bohr:
"A
physicist is just an atom's way of looking at itself."
Werner Heisenberg:
“The
first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist,
but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.”
there is nothing more to it. simply consciousness is the answer. not some mythical power outside of us. the very thing we are made of is making up everything.
"we are just the universe experiencing itself through us"
I am litterally you explaining this stuff to ourselves..
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 16:02
Dear Constantin and M-EYE-K (Michael?)
I think both of you have a heart of gold. I felt it long before your last post. I'm sincere.
I also am not really an anti-spiritualism or anti-religion guy. I think they were/are a part of our cultural evolution. Whether one likes them or not, it cannot be changed. They also set challenges for people like myself throughout centuries and millennia. You know? It can enrich the culture(s) multi-facetedly. I'm mainly opposed to their utilization as "tools". Otherwise, everything can be treasured, if they enrich one's life, occupies his/her troubled mind etc...
I also am assuming Steve means something very broad while saying spirituality. Spiritual growth? Sure. Everybody needs that. I just want to make people interpret such things in a realist way. Not "make" actually, I just feel happy when I see that people can do it. Of course, no one would/should think/behave to make me happy. You know? I just feel happier when I see people like that. I just am being open here. (Just add some "Never opened my heart this waaaaay..." drama here. )
Until recent years, I was interpreting fictional works differently. Some wisdom I met from a Swedish proverb (Reality surpasses the poem.) and learning how the Chinese assess such stuff just helped me. I'm not a teacher or something here. So, I'm not trying to "teach" anything to anybody. So, sorry for my previous "truth teaching" imposition, which was a result of a depletion of my tolerance. I'm just hoping that my insights can be of some help. Not like trying to make people like myself. You know? Diversity is awesome. Otherwise life would be unbearably boring.
Yet I have to add that you didn't answer my question, with a scientific or historical fact. The claim that the religions, the words of the prophets and the Holy books were distorted is just... well... a claim. You can NEVER know the reality about that, unless time travel or real past time simulations are realized. Both can possibly be achieved, but I fear only our descendants can witness them, if invented.
Also there may be secret technologies and stuff too, or some aliens can bring or brought them too. You know, conspiracy theories are almost never impossible.
One last thing to add, I know lots of things about spiritualism and stuff, as my bandmate is very much into them. I said I'm more of a "anti-spiritualist", but it is only limited to ideological, philosophical and scientific contexts. Also, we're making an album that is about spirituality, aliens and all that jazz... For me, it is like sci-fi, for my bandmate, it is about his beliefs... But, he actually likes to leave the lyrics completely to me, for the next album and I'll probably create a fully original sci-fi concept. He doesn't very much like writing the lyrics himself, but had to do for our upcoming album.
Anyway, take care you two...
Kind regards,
Özgür
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 17:36
Hey everyone here! Spirituality is tantamount to one's connection to the universe. This is a path you have to focus your consciousness on for years before the almighty controller of things allows you access to deeper truths of reality. There is nothing i can say or do to convince you and there is nothing anybody else can either. This is either something you feel a connection to or do not. I would never create a thread like this because it's not my desire to interpolate my life journey upon those who are not interested however i'm happy to drop a comment or two here and there since someone else did.
I can only recount my own experiences and i have had many that utterly convince me of the multi-dimensional universe that surrounds us. The veil is truly thinning which is the point of this thread really and the day is near when timelines and dimensions will cross over.
If you seriously want to research the scientific studies of such esoterica there have been plenty. One amazing adventure of (USA) tax payer money came from the Montauk Project which confirmed the ability of time travel among other inconceivable phenomena. It seems our consciousness does conceive reality and we do live in slightly different worlds in many ways and the collective accord crafts a main frame sort of thing. There have literally been a ridiculous amount of scientific inquiries into many of these esoteric phenomena but most have been classified and / or carried out in places like the former USSR.
The answers really are there at least for things that really matter and so-called spiritual disciplines truly do condition the soul for receiving such downloads. There is a reason these things are not available to all. We live in a reality where we are tested for our moral fortitude and if all the answers were obvious then we would not learn from experience! We would only get by on cheat sheets! It really does make sense once you surrender to the higher frequencies of unconditional love which of course does not take away one's cosmic right of self-defense.