The Raven... vs. Tales of Mystery and Imagination
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Topic: The Raven... vs. Tales of Mystery and Imagination
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Subject: The Raven... vs. Tales of Mystery and Imagination
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 00:59
![The Raven That Refused to Sing (And Other Stories) | Vinyl 12" Album | Free shipping over £20 | HMV Store](https://cdn.hmv.com/r/w-1280/hmv/files/f5/f51c1833-67e9-4d2f-be53-0bf0ad78441c.jpg "The Raven That Refused to Sing (And Other Stories) | Vinyl 12" Album | Free shipping over £20 | HMV Store") 
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 01:17
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Neither! ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 01:20
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Steven ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 01:43
The first vote for The Alan Parsons Project. 
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 02:04
| Tales of Mystery and Imagination |
Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 02:43
| Raven has a couple of great tracks on it. Mystery & Imagination is a gem from start to finish. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 03:31
This ^ ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 03:58
I haven't listened to these two in a long time, might vote if I listen to them a bit, dust them off  , should I have the time obviously. 
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Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 04:08
| APP |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 05:31
| Both are good, but I prefer Tales. |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 05:46
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Tales. Wilson still isn't my cup of tea. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 06:03
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APP, but not by much. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 07:41
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I think you should have included this one in your poll:  -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 11:13
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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 11:19
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My vote is for the non-singing corvid. ------------- Oh, for the wings of any bird, other than a battery hen |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 11:26
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like SW's Raven a lot but Tales is amazing and gets my vote ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 11:33
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The Raven by Wilson..........some what surprised that so many are that fond of that Parsons lp...nothing all that special imo. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 12:15
here a track from this album: ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 12:35
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Steven Wilson's The Raven is a masterpc in his solo catalog. Each song having it's own story, very dark...but the music he created is powerful. I don't get the APP album much, Poe has been done many times and I'm not a big fan of having all those different musicians and vocalist and all of Ambrosia playing on the album. That kind of stuff was very interesting back in the mid 70's, but I don't think it has held up well today. -------------   
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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 12:37
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^ One of the best Stranglers lps without doubt The 1987 remix of 'Tales of Mystery & Imagination' is great; some extra guitar solos, the inclusion of the original Orson Wells spoken parts and just a clearer, cleaner sound (particularly the drums).. Fall of the house of Usher is particularly spellbinding.. Its the only APP lp that i can listen to all the way through; there is always at least one soggy ballad on all the others. SW.. i just dont know.. i bought the lp and loved it at first and the live show was amazing but it.. i dont know.. just doesnt quite hit the spot now.. though i must admit the title track, particularly when listened to accompanied by the animated film does give me goose bumps..
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 12:50
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Of course The Stranglers are not on PA.....perhaps an oversight but then it is still a good album....and one can hear the next lp Gospel According to the Men In Black on that song and the MIB track, ;) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 12:56
I happen to differ. it is horrible; the music has been changed drastically. remixes should in my opinion NEVER alter the music. this kind of remix to me is like coming home and Friede greeting me with: "look, I have a pair of new implants"
------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 12:58
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APP. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 14:07
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As much as i enjoy the Raven album it’s Tales for me! ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 14:37
Thats a fair enough comment and of course its entirely subjective. I dont think the music has been drastically changed; mainly its been digitally remastered from original tapes plus a couple of added guitar parts by the original guitarist, some new Synth parts by AP and Eric Woolfson and the Orson Wells narration recorded during the original sessions and not used at the time. I couldnt possibly comment on Friede's new (or existing implants..)  ------------- |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 14:50
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she doesn't have any implants and doesn't need any ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 14:54
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Out of the two SWilson albums I have, I definitely prefer Raven. I voted for Tales, however, and add my approval for the remix - the added guitar solos fill up some of the original empty spots and the voice of Orson Wells is an instrument unto itself. And yes, I am cautious of remixes, but only if it is done for good reason, which is the case here. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 15:18
| Both. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 15:18
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Tales, but with a honourable mention to Raven for Luminol. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 13 2021 at 20:02
| This one is difficult... I love both of them... and both are my favourite albums from both artists (and that's including the Porcupine Tree albums too). I might give the nod to Steven Wilson because he's behind in the poll... and I got to see his tour for that album, and I found it really perfect, one of the best concerts I have been at. |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: January 14 2021 at 01:26
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Posted By: MundoReviews
Date Posted: January 14 2021 at 16:54
| glad you guys are making the right choice, this is justice .. |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: January 14 2021 at 21:18
| Easily Raven. |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: January 14 2021 at 22:08
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I think I've heard both of them like once or twice. The Raven had a better first impression, so I'll vote for it. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Theprogelitist
Date Posted: January 17 2021 at 02:21
| The Raven is waaaaaaaay better in my mind. Tales is an important album though |