How did your family influence your tastes in prog?
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Topic: How did your family influence your tastes in prog?Posted By: SteveG
Subject: How did your family influence your tastes in prog?
Date Posted: April 18 2021 at 19:28
For me, my late wife was English who liked traditional British folk music. This was something completely alien to me as this music is all sung acapella with no musical accompaniment at all. Strange stuff for an American, to say the least. To meet in the middle, we explored the electrified folk rock bands like Fairport Convention or less amplified bands like the Pentangle, which neither of us would have ever heard on our own. Do you have any such stories?
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Replies: Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 18 2021 at 20:00
My parents let me stay up on Sunday nights to watch Ed Sullivan. That was all that was necessary. Otherwise, there musical preferences were nothing I cared for.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 18 2021 at 20:12
Not at all, I discovered it all via friends and the internet.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 18 2021 at 20:19
My dad had a copy of "the Yes album" that I remember seeing as a kid. The disembodied mannequin head used to sort of freak me out. Other than that album not a whole lot. However, that album and knowing the name Yes before buying 90125 on tape did serve as a sort of name recognition for me and made me curious to rediscover that album I once considered too weird and jammy for me.
My cousin had more of an influence on me getting into prog I would say. He was big into Genesis(as well as Yes but Genesis was his favorite)and so rather early on I think I put one and one together than Yes and Genesis were sort of similar to each other. He also told me about this band called King Crimson who "I might like if I like the early Genesis." My cousin never really went that deep into prog though even though he did like several of the major bands. I don't think he was ever into Pink Floyd, Rush, Kansas, Jethro Tull or ELP much. He did mention UK to me once but I'm pretty sure he never got into GG, Camel, Renaissance, VDGG etc.
Posted By: stegor
Date Posted: April 18 2021 at 21:07
My dad was into heavy classics like Tchaikovsky’s 1812 Overture and Grieg’s Hall of the Mountain King. He always had the best audiophile equipment. In ‘75 he bought a Fisher quad system that I still have. And he played it LOUD. Also a lot of opera and organ music. He never admitted it but I think he sort of appreciated ELP when I started listening to them. He definitely disliked Jethro Tull though.
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 18 2021 at 22:15
My family didn't even know of the existence of something called prog rock. Neither did I until I read the wiki article on Pink Floyd which cited progressive rock as (one of) their genre.
But there was 'indirect' influence via getting me into music that would eventually act as a bridge to prog.
One, my dad read an article about Santana's Supernatural album in a Sunday leisure supplement of the newspaper we read. The song Yaleo was the first time I was exposed to the idea of duels/trade off solos. This would sound bewildering for those who do not know that I grew up in a fairly downmarket suburb of Mumbai and my only other exposure to Western music at that time had been a Beatles compilation which had mostly the songs from the first few albums (and then Let It Be ), an ABBA compilation which did NOT have Intermezzo no.1, the Yanni live at Acropolis concert which of course was heavily instrumental but in a different way and a Celine Dion concert . Oh, and some Michael Jackson songs, of course. This was long before mp3, limewire and the lot and most of our music consumption at that point was via cassette.
The other and arguably major bridge was Ilayaraja's music. I don't know whether he did hear any progressive rock beyond Pink Floyd or whether he just appropriated Mancini and the like but looking back now, I can clearly hear the influence of prog or at least of 70s rock/funk/soul in his work.
The passages from 11:40 to 12:10, 19:40 to 20:15 in the below video for eg (they are taken from his background scores). There are many such but his team recently purged all the background score compilations uploaded (unofficially) on youtube, so I can't find more examples of the kind of passages I'd have wanted to show.
Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: April 18 2021 at 22:26
My parents had no interest in music whatsoever - I initially discovered prog through my friends (in particular that time I first heard 'Meddle' round at a mate's house).
Otherwise my interest started by whatever 'quality music' I could find on BBC Radio One, particularly from presenters such as John Peel and Bob Harris, and to a lesser extent from Radio Luxembourg.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 18 2021 at 23:27
Hi,
Dad was an avid listener of classical music and he had way over 2K albums from the earliest to the latest Stockhausen and other electronics of the day. The variety was crazy, and combined with about 50 or more operas, I ended up appreciating the variety ... and still do to this day!It explains why I don't care for bands that only have a beat drummer, and bass player. The work has very little life to show for it.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 18 2021 at 23:27
My sister borrowed a copy of Nursery Cryme from a friend and I played it - I must have been intrigued by the cover and the lyrics. That led me to buy Genesis Live and soon I got into Yes from a school friend. We would have been about 11 then! This is when it all started for me.
My sister never really got into prog though.
Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: April 18 2021 at 23:35
Strangely my younger brother never quite got into prog (I'm the elder of two siblings) and none of my offspring have shown any interest in the genre either.
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 18 2021 at 23:47
It was my cousin who introduced me to Yes. Mum and Dad had little influence, aside from putting up with the racket I made from the hifi.
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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: April 18 2021 at 23:50
lazland wrote:
It was my cousin who introduced me to Yes. Mum and Dad had little influence, aside from putting up with the racket I made from the hifi.
Ah yes, those shouts up the stairs of 'turn that racket down will you'!
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 01:42
I got into prog without knowing there was such a thing as prog. I had been listening to a lot of prog without knowing that was what some people call it. In fact, it wasn’t until after I came to the UK that I even first heard the word, when someone said “oh you like prog”, after I had listed off some of the bands I like, in answer to a question about my musical tastes. It intrigued me, and I had to ask what prog was, since I couldn’t even really see how the bands and artists I had mentioned had any similarities to each other. Heck, even the invented “grunge” genre seemed to have more similar qualities than what “prog” is.
When I returned to NZ temporarily, I remember asking my friends who liked some of the same bands and artists I did, if they had ever heard of prog. Not one had, though I suspect that may have changed since, as the internet has propagated the term to the point where I am sure it has more global recognition than it does now.
I’m not suggesting that prog was unknown as a term in NZ, as I’m sure it was not. I’m not even suggesting that prog was unknown as a term in NZ for my generation either, as it’s purely anecdotal that my friends and I had never heard of the term.
But I do think the term can be more unhelpful than helpful, as it does conjure up images of old, bearded, real-ale quaffers, and a stuffy, boring old reputation. I can definitely understand why a lot of more modern bands and artists who undeniably make prog music, do not like the term, not like their music to be called prog.
Sorry to go off the track a little here, but it was more to point out that it’s really hard for me to work out who got me into prog, because I was well into it before I even knew it was a thing. 🤷🏻♂️
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 01:55
They didn't. I stumbled across prog indirectly through Jeff Wayne's WOTW and The Wall, and more directly through heavy metal.
My mum liked easy listening and country music, and my dad didn't seem interested in music at all.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 02:05
nick_h_nz wrote:
I got into prog without knowing there was such a
thing as prog. I had been listening to a lot of prog without knowing
that was what some people call it. In fact, it wasn’t until after I
came to the UK that I even first heard the word, when someone said “oh
you like prog”, after I had listed off some of the bands I like, in
answer to a question about my musical tastes. It intrigued me, and I had
to ask what prog was, since I couldn’t even really see how the bands
and artists I had mentioned had any similarities to each other. Heck,
even the invented “grunge” genre seemed to have more similar qualities
than what “prog” is.
When I returned to NZ
temporarily, I remember asking my friends who liked some of the same
bands and artists I did, if they had ever heard of prog. Not one had,
though I suspect that may have changed since, as the internet has
propagated the term to the point where I am sure it has more global
recognition than it does now.
Yup,
this happened to me as well. I had no idea about "prog" until the 90's,
despite being into it since 74 (and not being my lone rock genre I
liked). In Canada, it was loosely called "Art Rock" and wasn't
really anything of a niche or definite/definitive genre. It's coming
back in Europe, that when asking me about my music tastes, people
misheard art-rock ashard-rock. when explaing further, they said: "oh you
mean prog rock".
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Not at all, I discovered it all via friends and the internet.
That wouild be my answer, but I probably had predispositions from my parents.
My dad listened to classical music with a certain accent on chamber music. He had also listened to a fair amount of jazz (he was helping organizing jazz concerts (I remember Rashan Kirke and Memphis Slim (the later even slept at house house) as some of my earliest memories, though he preferred swing to bop, if I judge by his LP collection. My dad also had Stand Up (for Bourée) and was given the original Hair soundtrack. I suppose he also danced rock'n roll with my mom, at one point
My mother also like some classical, but was a musical hall fan (Edith Piaf, Trenet, Garbo, Minelli, Chevalier, and also Le Grand Jacques were her fave), which means I didn't freak out at The Gabe's costumes.
But she also listened to Formule J (for Jeune) while overseeing us making our homeworks.
My dad didn't dislike Floyd, Genesis, ELP (he even had a few early Tomita albums) and Tull, so he didn't try to interfere.
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 03:21
Although it was me who was the avid music listener of my family, it was my older brother (2¾ years older than me) who got me into:
Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon Supertramp - Crime Of The Century Split Enz - Mental Notes Yes - Fragile Yes - Close To The Edge Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick Jeff Wayne - The War Of The Worlds Nektar - Journey To The Centre Of The Eye
However, in the case of Supertramp - Crime Of The Century, Split Enz - Mental Notes, and Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick, I was already aware of these albums, but it was through my brother that I fell in love with these albums.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 03:31
As a reply to the OP's question: Sure, whenever my dad began watching some crappy music programmes on TV in the sitting room; I found myself in my room listening to some quality music, mostly prog. I'd call it "influence".
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 03:31
Long story short: my Dad played Floyd's DSOTM over the speakers when I was either 8 or 9 years old.
Like others here, I hadn't heard the term "prog" until the 1990s. We all thought it was classic rock in the 1980s because the classic rock stations were the only ones playing this stuff.
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 03:53
I wasn't aware of the terms "Progressive Rock" or "Art Rock" until the late 90s. At the time I was getting into prog (mid-to-late 70s), I just thought of it as uncommercial music because it was being played on a radio station that didn't play pop music. The music being played wasn't all prog, in fact most of it would've been classic rock (Led Zeppelin, etc). However, the station did play "21st Century Schizoid Man" on several occasions, which I loved, but it wasn't until I came across the album itself that I found out where the track came from.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 05:43
I know I've told this story before but here it is again...
I had no interest in any music my folks listened to. Religious, Pipe and Drum, Lawrence Welk, Hawaiian.
I did get an FM radio from my mom when I was around 9 or 10 and began to explore the dial. I like to listen to music when I was going to sleep. This also just happened to be the time that stations from the Detroit area could get picked up. I think Arthur Brown's Fire was one of the first tunes I heard that caught my ear. A few years later it was Knife Edge by ELP, although it took some time to learn who they were. Later that same summer at a drop in centre for youth held at the local high school I heard The Three fates on the turntable and was smitten. I grabbed the album cover and saw the title Knife Edge. Now I had a name to the song and the rest, as they say, is history.
My dad did mention once that he's like to see ELP play, but unfortunately we never got that chance.
My mother couldn't stand my music. She hated the sound of a synth.
My sister (2 years older) was heavily into Elvis and Sha-Na-Na, so no influence there...at all.
My older cousin (4 years older) turned me onto the heavier stuff she listened to whenever we would visit. Stuff like Alice Cooper, Humble Pie, Grand Funk as well as the Allman Bothers, CCR and Led Zeppelin.
Just last week my son (29 yr old) made a reference to J. Geils, caught me totally off guard. I had no idea he listened to, let alone, liked them.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 06:37
I was born for prog. My family had zero influence on my prog tastes. Friends, and several good record stores in the area had the music I preferred. When the Internet bloomed, the door for music discovery was wide open.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 07:04
JD wrote:
I know I've told this story before but here it is again...
I had no interest in any music my folks listened to. Religious, Pipe and Drum, Lawrence Welk, Hawaiian.
I did get an FM radio from my mom when I was around 9 or 10 and began to explore the dial. I like to listen to music when I was going to sleep. This also just happened to be the time that stations from the Detroit area could get picked up. I think Arthur Brown's Fire was one of the first tunes I heard that caught my ear. A few years later it was Knife Edge by ELP, although it took some time to learn who they were. Later that same summer at a drop in centre for youth held at the local high school I heard The Three fates on the turntable and was smitten. I grabbed the album cover and saw the title Knife Edge. Now I had a name to the song and the rest, as they say, is history.
My dad did mention once that he's like to see ELP play, but unfortunately we never got that chance.
My mother couldn't stand my music. She hated the sound of a synth.
My sister (2 years older) was heavily into Elvis and Sha-Na-Na, so no influence there...at all.
My older cousin (4 years older) turned me onto the heavier stuff she listened to whenever we would visit. Stuff like Alice Cooper, Humble Pie, Grand Funk as well as the Almond Bothers, CCR and Led Zeppelin.
Just last week my son (29 yr old) made a reference to J. Geils, caught me totally off guard. I had no idea he listened to, let alone, liked them.
J. Geils huh? Perhaps there's hope for the younger crowd.
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 07:18
I have two older brothers . One was in to bands like The Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, Bob Dylan Quicksilver, NRPS, The Byrds... The other brothers taste ran more towards Yes, Renaissance,Tull, The Who (Tommy specifically ) Both had a big influence on my musical tastes.
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 07:34
They didn’t Dad’s faves: Dire Straits, Everly Brothers, early Beatles, ABBA and Shu-bi-dua. Mom’s faves: Bee Gees, Stevie Wonder, Ravel, Roy Orbison, Boney M and Shakin Stevens.
Some of which is brilliant music...but yeah the closest they ever got to the genre was Dire Straits and ABBA. The Stevie Wonder stuff they mostly listened to was his 80s oevre.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 07:38
Guldbamsen wrote:
The Stevie Wonder stuff they mostly listened to was his 80s oevre.
For a lot of people, Stevie Wonder only starts with Master Blaster.
Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 08:10
I had one older brother into classic rock: The Beatles, The Stones, The Who etc. And another older brother devoted to Verdi, Puccini, and Tower of Power (no joke)... So it was probably inevitable that I would become an ardent Proghead.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 08:48
My family had very little influence on my taste for prog, except for my grandfather. Coming from a latino background and growing up in Central America, most of the music there was (and is up to today) dance music, full of rhythms and genres like cumbia, merengue, son, etc. I knew there was something more, and I always liked to hear my grandfather play the cello. He taught me how to listen to music and appreciate orchestration, instrumentation, composition, etc. So I grew up listening to the classics, like Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, etc. I finally met a guy who played Jimmi Hendrix to me, and told me about Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Yes, etc. Then I was hooked, because I could actually listen to something with meaning and intent, just like I had learned to appreciate as a kid from my grandfather. It was difficult to find this type of music down there around that period of time, but I connected with other people who had access to progressive music, and my prog history began.
Posted By: Pelata
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 08:56
Not in the slightest.
My mother and grandmother were into Mowtown and Soul.
I have no idea what my father likes.
My grandfather was into Country.
I was the older brother and had no older cousins or family into it.
I got into it all on my own.
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 09:32
rogerthat wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
The Stevie Wonder stuff they mostly listened to was his 80s oevre.
For a lot of people, Stevie Wonder only starts with Master Blaster.
That is one smoking track though ...but I know what you mean. Having been somewhat late to fully explore his albums from the 70s outside of Innervisions and Talking Book, I recently discovered a whole slew of albums and music I would have loved to have been part of my life much much earlier ...but I can’t imagine NOT exploring further back in this man’s catalogue when you love all of his latter day material. That’s just nuts. I have two coworkers like that. Sure they’re like ‘his biggest fans ever’ but don’t know any of his 70s stuff outside of a few hits You know what...now that I think of it..it rather mimics the relationship most folks have with Genesis and Kraftwerk. People generally know what the radio/dj plays..and that’s about it.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 09:36
Guldbamsen wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
The Stevie Wonder stuff they mostly listened to was his 80s oevre.
For a lot of people, Stevie Wonder only starts with Master Blaster.
That is one smoking track though ...but I know what you mean. Having been somewhat late to fully explore his albums from the 70s outside of Innervisions and Talking Book, I recently discovered a whole slew of albums and music I would have loved to have been part of my life much much earlier ...but I can’t imagine NOT exploring further back in this man’s catalogue when you love all of his latter day material. That’s just nuts. I have two coworkers like that. Sure they’re like ‘his biggest fans ever’ but don’t know any of his 70s stuff outside of a few hits You know what...now that I think of it..it rather mimics the relationship most folks have with Genesis and Kraftwerk. People generally know what the radio/dj plays..and that’s about it.
Yeah, exactly what I have seen. They will say they love Stevie and I will be excited to talk about his music with them and then they talk about I Just Called To Say I Love You. Ugh!
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 09:44
rogerthat wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
The Stevie Wonder stuff they mostly listened to was his 80s oevre.
For a lot of people, Stevie Wonder only starts with Master Blaster.
That is one smoking track though ...but I know what you mean. Having been somewhat late to fully explore his albums from the 70s outside of Innervisions and Talking Book, I recently discovered a whole slew of albums and music I would have loved to have been part of my life much much earlier ...but I can’t imagine NOT exploring further back in this man’s catalogue when you love all of his latter day material. That’s just nuts. I have two coworkers like that. Sure they’re like ‘his biggest fans ever’ but don’t know any of his 70s stuff outside of a few hits You know what...now that I think of it..it rather mimics the relationship most folks have with Genesis and Kraftwerk. People generally know what the radio/dj plays..and that’s about it.
Yeah, exactly what I have seen. They will say they love Stevie and I will be excited to talk about his music with them and then they talk about I Just Called To Say I Love You. Ugh!
Well I have to admit that I have a very loving relationship with that tune...but I know what you mean It’s my parents’ song. Whenever it plays they look at each other very lovingly, dance, embrace and kiss in the most natural way. I have many great memories of pure love with that track as the background music..or indeed frontground music. It still does the same today actually. I can put that track on and see their love spring out of thin air...and I’ve always loved Stevie for that ...but I’d wish people explored a little further. There’s soooo much more to discover in this man’s repertoire. It’s a shame not to.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 10:01
rogerthat wrote:
The passages from 11:40 to 12:10, 19:40 to 20:15 in the below video for eg (they are taken from his background scores). There are many such but his team recently purged all the background score compilations uploaded (unofficially) on youtube, so I can't find more examples of the kind of passages I'd have wanted to show.
Isn't that annoying? One time I told a member here that I would post a studio and live version of an obscure Roy Harper song, only to find that his whole discography was wiped from YouTube.
I'm sure that PA member still thinks I made the song up.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 10:02
Zippo!! My family is from Honduras and the luxury of music did not exist. Not till we moved to the US and most probably I influenced them. My dad eventually, once he started to earn more money, got into hi-fi gear and he became a classical music listener.
My mom migrated to pop/rock music like myself as I was growing up, I have a feeling she lived her dreamed about music listening life thru me as I grew up listening, buying records and going to concerts.....Again something they only dreamed about in Honduras growing up.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 10:04
rogerthat wrote:
They will say they love Stevie and I will be excited to talk about his music with them and then they talk about IJustCalledToSayILoveYou. Ugh!
That was my Mom's favorite song, so naturally I played it a lot whenever she visited.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 10:46
SteveG wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
They will say they love Stevie and I will be excited to talk about his music with them and then they talk about IJustCalledToSayILoveYou. Ugh!
That was my Mom's favorite song, so naturally I played it a lot whenever she visited.
I guess the reason I don't have a warm relationship with that song is by the time I first heard it, I had already started to dislike some of the typical 80s sounds and didn't at the time know that Stevie Wonder was all kinds of amazing. I just knew him as a famous artist. And THEN, when I did get around to the Innervisions era, I could never reconcile songs like I just called to say/Part time lover with THAT Stevie. I was like, what happened to him!
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 10:47
SteveG wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
They will say they love Stevie and I will be excited to talk about his music with them and then they talk about IJustCalledToSayILoveYou. Ugh!
That was my Mom's favorite song, so naturally I played it a lot whenever she visited.
I guess the reason I don't have a warm relationship with that song is by the time I first heard it, I had already started to dislike some of the typical 80s sounds and didn't at the time know that Stevie Wonder was all kinds of amazing. I just knew him as a famous artist. And THEN, when I did get around to the Innervisions era, I could never reconcile songs like I just called to say/Part time lover with THAT Stevie. I was like, what happened to him!
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 11:02
rogerthat wrote:
SteveG wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
They will say they love Stevie and I will be excited to talk about his music with them and then they talk about IJustCalledToSayILoveYou. Ugh!
That was my Mom's favorite song, so naturally I played it a lot whenever she visited.
I guess the reason I don't have a warm relationship with that song is by the time I first heard it, I had already started to dislike some of the typical 80s sounds and didn't at the time know that Stevie Wonder was all kinds of amazing. I just knew him as a famous artist. And THEN, when I did get around to the Innervisions era, I could never reconcile songs like I just called to say/Part time lover with THAT Stevie. I was like, what happened to him!
But I always slipped in "Superstition" just to give my ears a break.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 11:28
They didn't listen to pop-rock at all; dad listened to some Ray Charles and mom was into Perry Como, Doris Day, Sinatra, etc.
My brother and I got into pop and rock in the early/mid 60's by listening to top 40 radio on transistor radios and 45 singles...then college where we fist got into 'prog'.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 11:39
dr wu23 wrote:
They didn't listen to pop-rock at all; dad listened to some Ray Charles and mom was into Perry Como, Doris Day, Sinatra, etc.
My brother and I got into pop and rock in the early/mid 60's by listening to top 40 radio on transistor radios and 45 singles...then college where we fist got into 'prog'.
You didn't mention that you played your 45s on the family phonograph in the living room.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 12:35
My parents didn't have much prog, but at least they introduced my to ELP, Pink Floyd and Procol Harum at some point. I don't think they even know who f.e. King Crimson are. The dominating music in my family is classical.
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 12:45
SteveG wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
They didn't listen to pop-rock at all; dad listened to some Ray Charles and mom was into Perry Como, Doris Day, Sinatra, etc.
My brother and I got into pop and rock in the early/mid 60's by listening to top 40 radio on transistor radios and 45 singles...then college where we fist got into 'prog'.
You didn't mention that you played your 45s on the family phonograph in the living room.
We did....mom and dad had one of those consoles with am/fm radio and turntable that also was used as a good looking furniture piece to set things on when the lid was closed . A few years later they bought Greg and I one of those portable turntable speaker things where we could play our records. My daughter still has the console because she lives in the old homestead after my mon and dad passed. I have no idea where the old portable player ended up. In college in '69 we both had Sony compact stereo systems.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 16:25
dr wu23 wrote:
SteveG wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
They didn't listen to pop-rock at all; dad listened to some Ray Charles and mom was into Perry Como, Doris Day, Sinatra, etc.
My brother and I got into pop and rock in the early/mid 60's by listening to top 40 radio on transistor radios and 45 singles...then college where we fist got into 'prog'.
You didn't mention that you played your 45s on the family phonograph in the living room.
We did....mom and dad had one of those consoles with am/fm radio and turntable that also was used as a good looking furniture piece to set things on when the lid was closed . A few years later they bought Greg and I one of those portable turntable speaker things where we could play our records. My daughter still has the console because she lives in the old homestead after my mon and dad passed. I have no idea where the old portable player ended up. In college in '69 we both had Sony compact stereo systems.
That's great and brings back many Boomer type childhood memories. It even looks good as furniture. Can't say the same about the futuristic lamp though.
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Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 16:45
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 22:25
SteveG wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
SteveG wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
They will say they love Stevie and I will be excited to talk about his music with them and then they talk about IJustCalledToSayILoveYou. Ugh!
That was my Mom's favorite song, so naturally I played it a lot whenever she visited.
I guess the reason I don't have a warm relationship with that song is by the time I first heard it, I had already started to dislike some of the typical 80s sounds and didn't at the time know that Stevie Wonder was all kinds of amazing. I just knew him as a famous artist. And THEN, when I did get around to the Innervisions era, I could never reconcile songs like I just called to say/Part time lover with THAT Stevie. I was like, what happened to him!
But I always slipped in "Superstition" just to give my ears a break.
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 22:27
SteveG wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
The passages from 11:40 to 12:10, 19:40 to 20:15 in the below video for eg (they are taken from his background scores). There are many such but his team recently purged all the background score compilations uploaded (unofficially) on youtube, so I can't find more examples of the kind of passages I'd have wanted to show.
Isn't that annoying? One time I told a member here that I would post a studio and live version of an obscure Roy Harper song, only to find that his whole discography was wiped from YouTube.
I'm sure that PA member still thinks I made the song up.
I swear. Heh, didn't know Harper did that sort of purge too.
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 23:36
My grandmother had a lot of vinyls (mostly classical music, but she did have some rock ones). And among the rock albums she had, she had some prog ones (many she didn't actually really know all that well). She had Hamburger Concerto, which she loved and really recommended to me... she also had Cinquieme Saisons by Harmonium, which I also loved, but that's one of those I don't think she really payed much attention to... however I did love those two albums. She also had Jethro Tull's Live Bursting Out, and Yes' Relayer, though I didn't really got into those ones at the time (though I think I did end up loving Relayer's cover since then).
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 00:15
My late brother Roger introduced me to "The Yes Album," and the rest was history!
My wife Virginia approves of my fascination with Yes.
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Posted By: Zeph
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 04:10
I have very little in common with my parents when it comes to music. My occasional dabble in classical is probably the only one.
If my family has contributed with anything, it has to be my older brother. My first album that wasn't a collection of pop songs (Mr Music etc.) was The Time of The Oath by Halloween that I ended up in the possession of, which I consider my start down the path that led to prog. I remained in the metal genre for a long time and my introduction to prog was probably Porcupine Tree and Tool. The rest, as they say, is history. Finding PA has no doubt been the most significant influence. There was so much I had never heard about before finding PA.
Posted By: Michael919
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 16:22
My father influenced me musically in three ways:
1) Appreciation of good quality sound. He always had a high end HiFi system and headphones
2) Bought me guitars and supported me playing
3) Diversity in taste, from classical to hard rock to prog to pop.
Prog rock related albums in his collection that I listened to a lot were Pink Floyd DSOTM and The Wall, DP Who do We Think We Are and Machine Head and LZ Houses of the Holy.
Posted By: fredyair
Date Posted: April 21 2021 at 21:16
At home my father loved classical music and owned a good album selection, then some older cousins introduced me to prog music, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, ELP, Genesis, the connection with my background was instantaneous.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 21 2021 at 21:32
I would imagine many(if not most)younger people on here(say under 25)got into prog through their parents.
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: April 21 2021 at 22:44
My father loved Yes and saw them live in their heyday, Return to Forever, etc.
I got into those bands and found out after the fact he also enjoyed them, lol. We always have plenty to talk about, mostly me being jealous of him seeing Yes live in Boston in '72 AND '74 I believe! Pink Floyd Animals tour, etc...
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: April 23 2021 at 08:43
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
I was born for prog. My family had zero influence on my prog tastes... When the Internet bloomed, the door for music discovery was wide open.
Same here. In the late 70s, on the radio I discovered stuff like Pink Floyd, Yes, Rush, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, ELP, Supertramp, and the Moody Blues on the radio, along with other AOR-type tunes from classic rock, British Invasion, southern rock, etc. Then whenever this site went up (was it the early 2000s? I feel like I stumbled on this site pretty early on; I've been online since the 90s), I explored stuff I wasn't familiar with, and quickly grew to love Genesis and Camel, Marillion, Discipline, Phideaux, Flower Kings, PFM, IQ, etc.
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Date Posted: April 23 2021 at 09:36
^I am seeing quite a few folks from the past dropping by these days. Nice to read you again Michael - hope you’re doing good
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Posted By: Cylli Kat (0fficial)
Date Posted: May 27 2021 at 10:10
I know I've posted this somewhere else in the forums, but... My family lived across the street from my uncle Joe and his family. His eldest son, Joey had a great sound system (and seemed to me to be the first guy in the world to have quadraphonic, but that's my subjective memory), and uncle Joe was cool (mostly) with the stereo being loud, so at one point, "In the Court of the Crimson King" came my way. So powerful, it made me cry, I was so scared of it. Obviously, I didn't learn my lesson; because I kept coming back for more of King Crimson, Yes, Led Zeppelin, etc. And here I am today, still in love with the music that at one time terrified me. Weird story, but true.
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: May 28 2021 at 08:27
My older brother hung out a lot with the guy across the street which was a real mystery. Then pot hit the neighborhood and he took me over to this guy's room in the back of the garage, and I was soon fully initiated. With that came a couple of shelves of his prog albums to experience, and I was off and running.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: May 28 2021 at 20:06
Zero influence from my parents. We did have one of those pieces of furniture with the record player in it and my Mom had Gospel records. Nothing from my Dad although I found out after he passed he was into Big Band music when he was younger. I have one sister who I guess is into Pop and whatever is on the radio. I told her about this song by Ibrahim Maalouf that really moved me called "True Sorry" and got nothing. I guess instrumental music with trumpets in it aren't very commercial sounding
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Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: May 28 2021 at 20:15
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I would imagine many(if not most)younger people on here(say under 25)got into prog through their parents.
Only partly. I'm 29 now but started getting into prog at 14/15. My dad had many Floyd records and I listened to them a lot when I started getting into them, but then I discovered Yes, Genesis and ELP on my own, then my journey continued from there. We did start listening to a lot of prog at the same time, he bought some Genesis records at the time and he already had some Marillion, and I got him into Dream Theater and we went so see them live soon after. So we kinda influenced each other in that regard lol. He was very important in getting me into rock and music in general more than prog in particular.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 28 2021 at 20:55
TheLionOfPrague wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I would imagine many(if not most)younger people on here(say under 25)got into prog through their parents.
Only partly. I'm 29 now but started getting into prog at 14/15. My dad had many Floyd records and I listened to them a lot when I started getting into them, but then I discovered Yes, Genesis and ELP on my own, then my journey continued from there. We did start listening to a lot of prog at the same time, he bought some Genesis records at the time and he already had some Marillion, and I got him into Dream Theater and we went so see them live soon after. So we kinda influenced each other in that regard lol. He was very important in getting me into rock and music in general more than prog in particular.
Interesting that you got into Yes, Genesis and ELP on your own. I suppose your dad either just wasn't into anything beyond the most obvious music or is maybe just the wrong age to be into those bands. PF seem to be one of those "ever popular" bands which(other than Rush and PF) doesn't really seem to apply to most prog stuff. I suppose a lot of people know Genesis too but not necessarily their prog period.
Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: May 29 2021 at 02:26
It's not that unique of a situation, as that's very similar to what happened with me. Sure my dad knew ELP, Genesis, Yes. But not much. I got into them on my own. And I've been introducing him to new and old music ever since.
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: May 29 2021 at 02:36
They didn´t. I discovered prog by searching bargain bins for vinyls, and by name dropping from artists I enjoyed, and from a chance playing of Firth of Fifth by Genesis on a radio show I happened to listen to while stoned out of my mind on vacation in the countryside. It was such a revelation to me, that music could sound like that, that I immediately started collecting Genesis vinyls and began searching out similar artists.
My parents only introduced me to early 60s pop/rock. The Beatles, The Shadows, Kinks, The Who, Herman´s Hermits, The Beach Boys. There was nothing experimental about the music my parents listened to, and while they both enjoy music, it´s on a pretty shallow level, and they never encouraged us to listen to music with a more analyzing approach. Nothing wrong with that...we just speak two very different languages :-)
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 29 2021 at 02:41
They did not at all, but I may have influenced them.
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Posted By: Spaciousmind
Date Posted: May 29 2021 at 07:58
I am not sure if my parents did influence me, but they never discouraged me either. Being born from two Yugoslav parents, it's possible the serbian, macedonian, balkan folk music influenced me since my mother played it all the time, she had a stack of those vinyl records. They did however allow us to play whatever we wanted in our rooms with neighboring kids. Maybe that folk music she played influenced me to lean towards the progressive rock music of the day, i am not sure. I do remember my friends were often curious about the sounds when she played her records in the house as they had never heard that kind of music before in England. BTW often my parents had gatherings at our house or other places where someone would pull out their big handharmonica and mandolin and guitars and the music would start all through the night with the women dancing their folk stuff. So I guess I could say I was surrounded by music all my life, even though I could never play anything myself.
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: May 29 2021 at 09:43
Dad was a jazz drummer in his teens--was always playing bongos at my parents' frequent and wild parties in the 1960s. Pete Fountain, Sergio Mendes, Herb Alpert are the albums/musics I associate with him.
Mom loved folk (Peter, Paul & Mary, Simon & Garfunkle, Rod McKuen) and THE BEATLES. She really loved The Beatles.
I lived under the shadow of CKLW AM radio: lived for my radio listening time (70-74 soul/R&B in Detroit was AMAZING!) but then discovered on the FM side of the dial a couple of "Album Rock" oriented radio stations--who gradually became my go-to stations, WABX and, soon after, WRIF. There is where I discovered the music I really loved--much of which would later be called "progressive rock."
Brother went away to boarding school and came back with an entire new universe of music--mostly hard rock guitar oriented like Ronnie Montrose, Mountain, The Rolling Stones, Humble Pie, and a lot of Jeff Beck, Uriah Heep, and Blue Öyster Cult--these last three changed my life--especially Secret Treaties, "Orange", and, especially, Demons and Wizards.
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: May 29 2021 at 17:22
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
TheLionOfPrague wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I would imagine many(if not most)younger people on here(say under 25)got into prog through their parents.
Only partly. I'm 29 now but started getting into prog at 14/15. My dad had many Floyd records and I listened to them a lot when I started getting into them, but then I discovered Yes, Genesis and ELP on my own, then my journey continued from there. We did start listening to a lot of prog at the same time, he bought some Genesis records at the time and he already had some Marillion, and I got him into Dream Theater and we went so see them live soon after. So we kinda influenced each other in that regard lol. He was very important in getting me into rock and music in general more than prog in particular.
Interesting that you got into Yes, Genesis and ELP on your own. I suppose your dad either just wasn't into anything beyond the most obvious music or is maybe just the wrong age to be into those bands. PF seem to be one of those "ever popular" bands which(other than Rush and PF) doesn't really seem to apply to most prog stuff. I suppose a lot of people know Genesis too but not necessarily their prog period.
He had a lot of Floyd albums but not Yes or ELP. He had Genesis and had watched them live but I don't remember listening to them growing up. The thing is he had a lot of CDs but lost a lot of cassettes and vinyls he had when he was younger. The prog bands I remember listening as a kid are only Floyd and Marillion (He was born in '66 so prog was sort of fading in popularity when he was still very young). Then with the internet it was far easier to have access to music and we both like Yes, Genesis, Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree, Crimson (we went to see them live right before then pandemic, fortunately) etc. He's not into ELP and Tull though, which are two bands I really like, especially the former.
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: June 01 2021 at 07:32
My Mum and Dad had zero influence on me musically (James Last anyone?!!!!)
But my aunt and uncle played my sister and I War Of The Worlds back when it came out, when we were staying with them, aged 10 and 7. I think THAT influenced me hugely....
And I would like to think that maybe one day my youngest daughter will stumble across this site, and add her own post to whatever page of this thread we're on to, and say that I influenced her! I battered her with my music in the car twice a day to nursery in Cardiff and back, to the point where she was requesting stuff! As she grew older she denied all knowledge, but now she's started listening to PF and admitting that she likes other stuff her peers wouldn't, so maybe, just maybe.....
Posted By: Magog2112
Date Posted: July 24 2023 at 21:54
My dad got me into classic prog bands such as Pink Floyd, Yes, Rush, ELO, etc. Those bands acted as my gateway to prog which sent me down a deep rabbit hole of obscurity.
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: July 25 2023 at 05:23
School mates in the early 70's. It actually started with 'Relics' by Pink Floyd.
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: July 25 2023 at 05:38
My parents had a few Beatles records and I listened to them from a very early age so I like to think that planted some seeds in my brain that eventually blossomed into a love of prog rock music.
That's a bit of a stretch, I'll admit but it sounds pretty good
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 25 2023 at 07:06
Tjah, it should be because listening to Beatles singles as a child had some influence on my preference of say Symphonic rather
than Avant-Prog.
Edit:
And actually, I wrote this before I read the post above mine.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 25 2023 at 08:02
The first music experience that really blew me away was my mother taking us to the Yellow Submarine film. I was 8 at the time (this was in the seventies, not when the film originally came out). My mother died when I was 10, and I never found out more about any interest in music she might have had. I think we went to Yellow Submarine because she thought that my brother and I would like it; she wasn't that much into the Beatles herself, maybe a bit.
My father listened to some great music in the early seventies, but had already pretty much stopped doing that when I became consciously interested in music. He had a big influence rather randomly when he played a tape of Watch by Manfred Mann's Earthband in the car, which got me my first prog flash, even though he didn't even know what it was. I asked him and he told me it was Elton John, who in fact was on the other side of the tape. So I went out and bought Elton John's Greatest Hits from my little pocket money, and when I discovered that this was the guy from the wrong side of the tape, I complained to my father, and I really had to negotiate to get him to refund me the money. Eventually he did it though.
He had some albums by ELP, Jethro Tull, Novalis, Deep Purple, which I explored getting into prog, but by the end of the seventies he'd mostly listen to softer stuff such as Cat Stevens and classical music. This gave me the weird idea that probably by the age of 40 at the latest it would be normal to stop listening to rock music, that it'd really be a youth thing, and I was rather surprised to learn that most musicians would keep on rocking beyond that age, let alone listeners.
My grandfather who listened to classical music up to properly modern stuff like Stockhausen was curious about the prog I listened to. He bought some albums on my recommendation and would comment on them in a detailed manner, sometimes positive, sometimes more critical. He didn't really get into it, but I liked how open minded he was. He didn't succeed that much getting me into classical and modern classical stuff, but when I grew older, I got more into this, and maybe he had some influence there in the long run. He was the first to get me interested in art, particularly impressionism.