Meddle vs Piper at the Gates of Dawn
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Topic: Meddle vs Piper at the Gates of Dawn
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: Meddle vs Piper at the Gates of Dawn
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 16:55
| Since I didn't include them in my other poll(early PF poll)here they are head to head. |
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 16:56
| Meddle for sure. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 17:01
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Easily Meddle. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Artik
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 17:24
| Generaly that would be Meddle for "echoes" but as an album it is uneven and except "one of these days" the rest is rather bland plus those football fans singing are just stupid. So as an album I would go for Piper - it's more grounbreaking (sometimes revolutionary) and there is not one weak track on it. Maybe there is nothing as fabulous as "echoes" on it, yet not football fans to spoil the album either. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 17:27
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Meddle has Echoes and One of These Days, both of which are brilliant. Piper is just awful from start to finish. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 17:34
Indeed ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Man With Hat wrote:Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 18:29
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I will swim against the stream and vote Piper. Meddle is an album that I really want to like, but it doesn't really excite me. Sure, there are some great moments especially in "Echoes", but it somehow feels a bit unredeemed. Piper, on the other hand, is this great psychedelic pearl with Syd's amazing songs that are equally childlike and mature, comic and serious, naive and deep. Great work.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 19:01
I agree side one is a bit uneven. What ruins it for me are just two songs though and those would be "a pillow of winds" and "Seamus." "San Tropez" isn't much better. "One of these days" and "fearless" are both pretty good though. "Echoes" is one of the best things PF has ever done though and mostly because of that track I give the advantage to Meddle.
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Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 22:46
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Piper. Echoes is a masterpiece and One Of These Days is great, but the rest of Meddle is ok/meh to me. While the Piper is sheer brilliance from start to finish.
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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 23:03
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Meddle of course, as that's the album that got me into the Floyd. ------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar." Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2 |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 23:14
Yes ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 19 2021 at 23:38
| Meddle for me, very easily. You could have included Piper on the other poll and I still wouldn't have voted for it. |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 00:35
| Voted for Piper but I could easily have voted for meddle as well. Their two best albums up until their mature period of DSOTM and WYWH. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 00:54
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Meddle, easily. ------------- 
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 01:38
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Meddle ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 02:59
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Meddle contains Echoes which is the PF track that I like the most, but the "songs" side is not that good. My vote goes to Syd. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 03:06
I've often thought that if they'd held over 'Biding My Time' instead of releasing it on Relics earlier in the year, and discarded 'San Tropez' and 'Seamus' then it might have improved the first side, plus it kind of fits in with the overall romantic feel of the album. ------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar." Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2 |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 03:13
| Meddle |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 03:13
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Meddle by a mile. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 04:49
| Meddle |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 07:19
+1 ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 07:24
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Meddle. Love PatGoD, but Meddle. Fearless, Pillow of Winds, One of these Days, Echoes. Can't beat it. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 07:40
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We're comparing Apples and Oranges, which reminds me of Syd, which makes me want to vote for Piper at the Gates of Dawn. ------------- "we can change the world without anyone noticing the difference" - Franco Falsini |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 15:14
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Meddle ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: April 20 2021 at 17:16
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Meddle, if only because of Echoes. ------------- I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!) Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp ! |
Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: April 21 2021 at 01:34
Heaven forbid we should be asked to choose between 'Piper' and 'The Wall'! ------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar." Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2 |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 21 2021 at 04:58
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Very very tough. I actually think that both of these have top masterpieces besides quite a bit of stuff that I rarely feel like visiting. I go for both equally for once. |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: April 21 2021 at 06:54
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Meddle for me |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: April 21 2021 at 07:58
| Both equally. The band had evolved so rapidly from the first album to 'Meddle' so that a comparison is meaningless. I know many will go for the mighty 'Echoes' when making their choice but it's like comparing the first Yes album to 'Close to the Edge' etc. |
Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: April 21 2021 at 09:01
Or comparing 'From Genesis to Revelation' with 'Selling England by the Pound'. ------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar." Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2 |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 21 2021 at 13:41
| Piper is often considered to be one of the best of the pre dark side albums and so is Meddle. That's why they were both singled out for this particular poll. It really has nothing to do with their similarities or differences. I've seen a lot of polls on here where the albums or artists aren't similar. Two or more items being similar is not a prerequisite for a poll. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 22 2021 at 22:04
It would be more like comparing the first Yes album with Fragile (CttE would be equivalent to Dark Side I guess... or even WywH). And Comparing Piper with the Genesis debut wouldn't seem apropriate either, because Piper was actually a notorious album at the time, as I understand it, unlike the Genesis one (or the Yes one either, for that matter). |
Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: April 22 2021 at 23:01
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I've always despised Jonathan King, but he did give Genesis and 10cc the kick started they needed to get their careers going. ------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar." Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2 |
Posted By: Theprogelitist
Date Posted: April 23 2021 at 07:44
| Meddle >> Piper. I’d stick The Wall, AHM and Obscured in between |
Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: April 28 2021 at 14:26
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Slam dunk, Meddle
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