Top 5 bands
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Topic: Top 5 bands
Posted By: oddentity
Subject: Top 5 bands
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 04:41
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What are the five best rock bands of all time, in your opinion? Mine are, in no particular order: 1. Yes 2. Gentle Giant 3. Pink Floyd 4. Opeth 5. Ozric Tentacles Although I like plenty of other stuff, these five bands really stand out for me. They are the bands that I have fallen head over heels in love with over the years. I think their music is a superior form of art, full of inventiveness and class, a cut above everything else. What about everyone else? What are your choices?
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 04:43
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Best ROCK bands? I'm sure you mean best Prog Rock? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 04:43
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1.The Mars Volta 2.Iron Maiden 3.Dream Theater 4.Van Der Graaf Generator 5.Yes ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 04:51
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Mike,
I specifically meant rock bands. I personally consider prog rock to be the best form of rock, but that's just my bias, of course. I have no interest in the usual acclaimed rock bands - Rolling Stones, Beatles, Zepplin, etc. So my question is, which bands, in your opinion, have best utilized rock music in the service of art? Or, if you like, which bands have you touched you most deeply? My answer is: Yes, Gentle Giant, Pink Floyd, Opeth, Ozric Tentacles. |
Best ROCK bands? I'm sure you mean best Prog Rock?Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 04:52
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Rush Genesis The Enid Yes Renaissance ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 04:53
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"Prog" bands: Yes first, then in no particular order: King Crimson / Pink Floyd / Weather Report / Mahavishnu Orchestra (the last two are included as they're on this site tho' I can't help thinking they're really jazz-fusion) Including non-prog - I'd want to have Steely Dan and Led Zep in there. Pushed to 5 my "rock" list in order is: Yes Steely Dan King Crimson Pink Floyd Led Zeppellin |
Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 04:56
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My favourites (as in my signature): 1 - Ozric Tentacles 2 - Hawkwind 3 - Jethro Tull 4 - Dream Theater 5 - Yes ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10"> 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:00
in the service of art ... so you mean something like "Art Rock", which used to be an alias for Prog Rock? The problem is that Art is not an essential part of "great" Rock music, so in effect in emphasizing the artistic value you reduce the scope to Prog Rock. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Nazgul
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:00
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King Crimson Porcupine tree Opeth Pink Floyd Tool |
Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:03
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Blacksword:
I really like Genesis and The Enid, and I don't mind Renaissance, but I've never been able to get into Rush at all. What is their attraction, in your view? I've always found their music harmonically simple and thus a bit off-putting. |
Posted By: pero
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:05
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1. Gentle giant 2. Mahavishnu orchestra 3. King Crimson 4. Focus 5. Gong |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:09
Rush are obviously not a symphonic prog rock band, like the others in my list, but Rush is pretty much where I started with prog. I was attracted to the combination of musical virtuosity, sheer power (I heard Exit Stage Left first), the excitement and energy in their music, and their melodies, pure and simple. They were the bridge between metal and prog for me, and I feel like I have truly grown up with this band, and that I know how they tick. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:12
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Mike,
Well, what constitutes art is largely subjective, isn't it. I'm a nerdish individual who likes his music to be wild, ambitious, idealistic, cerebral, melodous, pure, etc, which means that I don't really connect to the blues side of rock with its strong sexual overtones. By announcing my top five bands I'm revealing my own character to some degree. What are your top five rock bands, Mike? I already know from you posts that you like Opeth and Gentle Giant, but would you include them in your top five?
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Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:14
| Can you recommend a Rush track, given what you know of my tastes? I'd like to try and get into them, if I can. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:21
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I would reccomend tracks like 'Xanadu' 'Cygnus X-1' or 'La Villa Strangiato' Find MP3's of these to start with. If you like them, then albums like 'A Farewell to Kings' and 'Hemispheres' maybe to your liking. Geddy Lees voice is often off putting for many, but it matured as the band went into the 80's. Their best album ever IMO is 'Moving Pictures' ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Throgh
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:22
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For me of course
Genesis Klaus Schulze (doesn't matter he's not a band does it?) Hawkwind Iron Maiden Deep Purple ------------- don't worry be happy |
Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:22
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Pero,
Focus are a great band. I've been really getting into them of late - in particular, Moving Waves and Hamburger Concerto. They remind me of Gentle Giant in that they combine medieval melodies and atmospheres with raunchy blues-based rock - although, of course, they jam much more. |
Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:25
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Blacksword,
Okay, thanks, I'll give them a go.
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Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:33
Hawkwind is another band I haven't been able to get into. I tried to get into them after I fell in love with the Ozrics, but it just didn't work. Their music seems very crude and monotonous to me - the simple bass lines, in particular, turn me off. Is it the naked dancing chick ....? |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:35
Do you like the mars volta!?!?! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:46
Hi Oddentity, I see that you chose an Ozric Tentacles track as your nickname. I wish I'd done that now. I could have called myself The Pongmaster or Pungent Efulgent (so many great names to choose from).... Anyway, for me Hawkwind is the closest thing I've found to Ozric Tentacles, particularly when they're not singing. I think it's after 1979 that Hawkwind sounds more like Ozric Tentacles. The early stuff with Bob Calvert is quite avant-garde and borders on punk sometimes... but that's another thread. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10">
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Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:50
| I haven't made up my mind about Mars Volta yet. At the moment, I enjoy their music in short doses, particularly the Deloused album, but I have to confess that they grate on me after a while. I love their youth and energy, I really do, but I just think their music is a little messy at times. Given this, it will be interesting to see what they come up with in their next album. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:54
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Oddentity: Re: Hawkwind, you may want to try 'Levitation' (1980) or 'Warrior on the Edge of Time' (1976) The former is one of their most solid and musically consistent albums, and benefits from having Ginger Baker on drums, instead of Simon 'where's the beginning of the bar? - King. 'Warrior..' is more symphonic; lots of Mellotron, flute and fantasy imagery. Some of their music is very crude and un-remarkable. They were never the greatest musicans, but every now and then had some great ideas which they managed to pull off. Bob Greece is right in that some of their work after the Calvert era was more Ozric-esque. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:57
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Bob,
Yeah, there's tonnes of great names there! I like "oddentity" because it puns nicely with "identity", and also because it is a fantastic track from my favourite album of theirs (Curious Corn). What's your favourite Ozric album?
Do you have any recommendations? |
Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:59
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Beatles Stones (it's only Rock and Roll, but I like it... Deep Purple Yes King Crimson ------------- [IMG]http://www.belderrain.es/GIFs/tora.gif"> |
)Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:03
ah cool a stones fan...my dad got every stones record on vinyl ever...including about 100 bootlegs... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:05
My favourite Ozrics albums are the live ones. Live Underslunky is great but I also love all the others: Live Ethereal Cereal, Pyramidion and The Pongmaster's Ball. Of the studio albums, it's quite hard to pick one out. I think Waterfall Cities was their peak. The previous album Curious Corn is also very good. Hawkwind recommendations. I think a good place to start are 2 recent live albums - Yule Ritual and Live at Canterbury. There are many Ozric-like moments on those albums. Of the studio albums, I like Chronicle of the Black Sword and Electric Teepee. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10">
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:17
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Zappa/Beefheart/Magma/VDGG/GG But the last two are slowly moving away from my "big 5", just like KC once has... Who are going to replace them? Art Zoyd? Can? Faust? Art Bears? The Residents? Gong? |
Posted By: pero
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:19
Focus III (orriginaly double LP-and now 1 CD) is fantastic. Hamburger concerto and Moving waves are also wonderfull albums |
Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:20
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Bob,
That's interesting. I actually prefer their studio stuff because of the production values. In my opinion, Ed Wynn is a real studio wizard. He is an absolute perfectionist in what he does. The way he polishes the music until it shines so beautifully is amazing. It turns the music into a form of aural jewelry. I really think it is this aspect which transforms the Ozric's music from mere jamming music, albeit of a high standard, into a genuine work of art. The only live stuff I really enjoy is the Pongmaster DVD. |
Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:26
Personally, I love live albums. Not just by Ozric Tentacles but by most bands. I know that there are not many people who like live albums so much as I do. Ozric Tentacles live albums in particular have a great energy to them. You're right about the high production standards of the studio albums though. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10">
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Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:32
| Have you seen them live? |
Posted By: dima_olkov
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:45
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Pink Floyd Genesis Yes King Crimson Van Der Graaf Generator (also, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin and many many more) ------------- PF, Genesis, KC, Yes, VdGG, GG, Camel, Jethro Tull |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:48
i guess this is going to get another 6-7 page thread about everbodys favorite bands...ah well  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Fraja
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:48
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For me are: 1.Queen 2.Camel 3.Pink Floyd 4.Rush 5.Gentle Giant |
Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:50
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Yes twice. In Bristol in 1993 and in Greece in 2000. Amazingly they come to Greece every year. I would see them every time but their concerts are a bit loud for my old ears. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10">
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At the end of the concert in Greece, I went up to the front and shook hands with Ed Wynne! 
Posted By: lucky seven
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:51
This is soooooo interesting !
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:53
Gentle Giant and Opeth would definitely not be in my list of top 5 ROCK bands:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:54
WHITESNAKE ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 06:59
Whitesnake made one of the finest Blues/Rock/Metal albums EVER: 1987 ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 07:00
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Mike,
Don't you consider Opeth and Gentle Giant to be rock bands?
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 07:04
and they also had a guitarist with the name of Janick Gers ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 07:10
No, not really. I really try to distinguish between prog and non-prog, with prog-related in between. Opeth are IMO pure Prog Metal, and Gentle Giant "Classic Prog", at least their 70s albums (which are all I know of them). ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: proger
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 07:28
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camel pink floyd king crimson soft machine genesis ------------- ...live for tomorrow... |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 07:34
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ok, I've been lurking, time to make an uncontroversial post. Hi =P 1. King Crimson 2. Gentle Giant 3. Fantomas 4. Ulver (not yet listed here; however, they've broken free of post-black into their own entity) 5. Eloy I like all the classic seventies bands, though, apart from maybe ELP and Floyd.. and even they have worthy work. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 07:40
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ello what ye think of DELIRIUM CORDIA and the band mars volta? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: lucky seven
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 07:44
Don't you mean Yes and King Crimson ?  |
Posted By: DACE
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 07:46
| In no particular order: Genesis, Pink Floyd, Camel, VDGG, Focus. |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 07:50
Delirium Cordia is my favourite Fantomas release so far, possibly the best thing that Mike Patton has ever put out! Although I'm still to hear the Maldoror album, his collaboration with Merzbow. As for Mars Volta, I'm following their work with interest.. if they can keep putting out such cohesive concept albums, they might end up as my favourite band in around ten years..  |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 07:52
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Oh my god i just think i have found my favorite member on this page
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Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 08:02
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lucky seven wrote:
If you don't find this thread interesting, then make it interesting. There's no need to run off and create a sarcastic thread of your own, just to mock this one. What's the point in that? So come on, say something really fascinating for us.
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Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 08:07
But they do belong to the rock family, as opposed the the jazz or classical families. Out of the entire rock family, which incudes prog, metal, classic rock, electronica, etc, which are your five favourite bands? |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 08:14
That's impossible to tell. You can check out my last.fm page to see which bands I listen to the most ... but I can't name 5 bands. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: oddentity
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 08:19
| Fair enough. It's just that out of many years of listening to music, these five bands have consistently stood out for me. I'm like you with regards to other bands - there are too many to list and it all depends on what sort of mood I'm in. |
Posted By: dr.music
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 08:36
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Of all times: 1. The Beatles 2. Genesis 3. The Rolling Stones 4. The Who 5. Deep Purple In Prog: 1. Genesis 2. Pink Floydl 3. Jethro Tull 4. Yes 5. Manfred Mann' s Earth Band
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Posted By: XTChuck
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 12:34
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FRANK ZAPPA/MOTHERS OF INVENTION YES JETHRO TULL TANGERINE DREAM CAMEL
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 12:57
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Cream, King Crimson, Hawkwind, Uriah Heep & Napalm Death Difficult! I tried to get something from all kinds of rock I listen. This time I'll concider that folk isn't rock. |
Posted By: MANTICORE
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 13:12
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KING CRIMSON ELP EGG LOS JAIVAS ALGARNAS TRADGARD -------------  |
Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 13:28
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In order:
1_Led Zeppelin 2_Yes 3_Pink Floyd 4_Genesis 5_Flower Kings |
Posted By: Uther Pendragon
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 08:47
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1) Marillion 2) Dream Theater 3) Rush 4) Pink Floyd 5) Yes ------------- "And so as I patrol in the valley of the shadow of the tricolour I must fear evil for I am but mortal and mortals can only die." |
Posted By: gok22us
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 09:51
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Muse (they have a special place for me) Yes, Genesis, and King Crimson (i'm not going to try and pick one over the other. Impossible!) Radiohead
Those are my top five bands. |