Genesis vs Rush
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Topic: Genesis vs Rush
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: Genesis vs Rush
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 14:20
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So which band do you prefer over all? Genesis or Rush? If you are only a fan of the PG/SH era I will ask that you either don't vote or vote for number 4* and the same thing with Rush( but with post MP). This is about the entire careers of both bands. Thank you. * Preferring the SH/PG era is not the same as hating or disliking all of the other eras of the band. So if you are at least ok with the post SH era and don't hate it then you can vote for 2 otherwise I ask that you please don't for the sake of keeping this poll as fair as possible. The same thing goes for Rush and their post Moving Pictures era.
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 15:34
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Genesis ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 15:39
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Both equally. ------------- "PROG IS MY FERRARI". Jem Godfrey (Frost*) |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 15:51
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Genesis, but not by much. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 16:15
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Genesis, easy. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 16:21
| Neither. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 16:25
Wait a second. Wasn't this your response from the other poll? "At the end, the label doesn’t matter at all to me. I like their music and that’s all that matters. " How can you like their music but then vote neither?
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Manuel wrote:Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 16:35
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Well, if you're going to dump all their crap in there, then neither. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 16:48
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Rush, easily. I dig Genesis (especially the albums immediately following Peter's departure), but Rush is the more consistent band. Yes, Rush streamlined their sound in the '80s, as most '70s bands did, but they didn't succumb to the whims of the pop sirens. They just kept evolving, they kept making good music. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 17:08
Well, sue me but I don't like it when someone says "I only like the PG era" or whatever. Because then I would have to have it listed as PG era Genesis. When I say Genesis I mean the whole band not just one era of the band.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 17:11
Because the premises that have been set on the poll. I like the early Genesis, not after Hackett left, so it limits my choices. I vote neither for that reason only. I like both bands a lot, but from the albums I like, both from rush and Genesis, I cannot really pick and choose between them, so I also voted neither, meaning I don’t prefer one over the other.
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Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 17:14
You have tons of albums before the trio era though, it's not like somebody is saying they only like the Anthony Philips era, or the Syd Barret era in Pink Floyd, etc. I mean, you can find tons of Rolling Stones fan who don't care for post Exile on Main Street era, or Jethro fans who don't care post-Stormwatch, Kinks, R.E.M, etc. I like the Collins era but I don't like they Ray Wilson era, I still consider myself a fan.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 17:46
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No contest. ------------- 
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Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 17:48
I entirely agree !!! |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 17:58
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 19:44
| Genesis. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 22:11
There's only one Ray Wilson album though so that's a bit different.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 22:13
| I probably prefer Rush a little bit over Genesis but I might vote for Genesis anyway(or at least both equally). I know Rush fans like to think that Rush never sold out but ultimately it's about the quality of the music. Plus was the PC era of Genesis really that bad? |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 01:08
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Genesis, all eras, hands down. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Theprogelitist
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 02:41
| My two favourite bands! Genesis has been my fav band ever since I discovered them so my vote goes to them. Selling England and Foxtrot are my two favourite albums, followed by Hemispheres |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 05:20
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Genesis (with one hand tided behind their back). "Nursery Cryme" by itself is 100 times better than anything Rush has ever done (imo). |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 05:39
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Rush do almost nothing for me. No contest here in my book. |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 05:42
To me,Rush is a hard rock band that knew how to prog but did not necessarily do it throughout the entirety of their career. While Genesis are in the prog gods, period.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 07:04
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both because i can't choose
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 07:28
| Both are in my top 5 bands of all time but Rush gets my vote. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 07:50
Same here. If you don't mind me asking who are the other three?
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 07:52
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really no contest in terms of innovation or talent---on every level. Check out my avatar.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 08:52
Yes, it has the five piece version of the band. Did you read my introduction on here?
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 08:59
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Rush! The only Genesis albums that i really love are Trespass and Selling England -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 11:25
I'm a fan of all versions of the band--even the 3
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 12:06
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Yikes! Rush v Styx.....Rush v Journey.....Rush v Sabs (Dio years); Zep; Purp (Mach III).....Rush, Mach I v Mach II v Mach III. Can't fight so far above your weight class and still have an entertaining bout. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 12:37
| A comparison between Rush and The Police would be more appropriate... |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 12:52
hardly
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 13:03
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 13:12
I'm with A Crimson Mellotron, Dwill123 & Two Steves. 
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 13:18
Is that why you voted for them?
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 13:24
| I struggled with this a lot more than I thought I would (even though I started the poll). Traditionally Rush has been my number 2 band (right behind Yes). I've seen Rush four times in concert and Genesis so far only once (that will change in December). So despite that I still felt like I should be voting for Genesis for some reason or at least both equally. Yes and Genesis were the two bands I felt really strongly about and at one point it seemed like I could have called them Geneyes. However, over the years Peart's lyrics resonated with me more and they seemed to be more cerebral than most Genesis after 1980 or so. While I don't mind the pop Genesis and probably like it more than most on here I still probably would go for the 80's Rush over eighties Genesis. Anyway, because Rush were down so much on here I decided to pull the trigger and vote for them which I might have done anyway even though it was very tempting to vote for both equally. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 13:37
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 14:14
Admit it, you love "who dunnit?"
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 15:03
Now YOU'VE gone and dunnit!!!! Actually I prefer the trio era over the prog era of Genesis and I do actually like Who Dunnit!  -------------
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 15:11
| Yeah, I don't really understand the bad rap it gets either. It's obviously not meant to be taken too seriously. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 15:36
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Rush are my #1 band of all time.......Genesis are my #2 band of all time, I have said that numerous times here. -------------   
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 17:40
Yes, Beatles & Floyd would be the other three.
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Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 17:59
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Rush are great, but I think only Moving Pictures I could compare with the peak of Genesis such as Selling England, Foxtrot or Nursery Cryme. And I'd still take SEBTP over it. I'd also say Genesis are more consistent, I'd take their weak era over Rush's, although both were pretty decent at their worst. ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 17:59
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Equal, I guess. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 18:40
The Beatles are one of my all time favorite bands and the first I got into but they would make my top ten but not top five. My top five are: Yes, Rush, Genesis, Pink Floyd and King Crimson.
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 23:31
| What they both have in common is that they both have their dull patches. But when they get it right they can be as good as anyone around. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 16 2021 at 00:55
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I like a fair few Rush albums with Signals ultimately being my fave..but there are quite a few Genesis albums that I love. The latter it is. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 16 2021 at 05:19
Who would be number 3?
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Posted By: Umeda
Date Posted: May 16 2021 at 07:30
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Rush, even if SEBTP is the greatest album ever on PA. ------------- Not for rent. To any God or government. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 16 2021 at 16:43
| I can listen to anything Rush did. Genesis however.. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 17 2021 at 01:41
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Tempted to say both equally. They are my two fave bands of all time, but I guess Rush can have the vote. Genesis at their very best slightly has the edge over Rush for me, but Rush didn't produce any rubbish in the 80's. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: May 17 2021 at 16:48
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When it comes to Genesis, I love everything from Trespass up to (and including) Abacab. Rush, on the other hand...let's say I really like them from Fly by Night to Hemispheres. Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures are ok. Yes, the crappiest albums from Genesis are worse than the worst Rush records, but if I were to pick the best 10 albums between both bands, Genesis would get an eight out of ten. ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: Lieutenant_Lan
Date Posted: September 15 2021 at 09:10
| Genesis is one of my least favorite prog bands. Please dont hurt me. So im gonna vote for rush. |
Posted By: OhioBrit
Date Posted: September 23 2021 at 13:25
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Hold on, Rush cite genesis as a strong influence in their music, and you can clearly hear Genesis in rush's music. Is this a reasonable comparison? Oh well, Genesis hands down for me.
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Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: September 26 2021 at 22:29
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I started off with Rush in the late 70's, but then got in Genesis in the mid 80's (strictly the 70's albums). Genesis has stood the test of time better than Rush, for me. Even decades later, I still listen to classic Genesis, whereas I rarely ever listen to Rush. I do have one fondness for Rush, as I got to play a lot of their songs in two bands I used to be in (which was a lot of fun). Used to have a Rickenbacker 4001 bass too. Have never played any Genesis with a band though, sadly.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 27 2021 at 02:50
They've cited an influence but I can't hear it strongly in their music, especially up to and including 2112. The first time I heard Watcher of the Skies, that rhythm did make me think of Lamneth, I guess. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: September 27 2021 at 05:08
| Rush (as an entire band) |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 27 2021 at 05:12
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Both petered out after the mid 80s, but a few of the early Genesis albums are classics like CTTE by Yes, and ItCotCK by KC. So, it's Genesis!
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: September 27 2021 at 06:01
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As much as I love all things Canadian, and certainly Rush exemplifies what a great Canadian rock band should sound like, I have to vote Genesis on this one. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 27 2021 at 09:34
Don't know about that.....usually when a band releases albums that do not sell well, the tours can lag. Both bands still toured big into the 90s, with Rush taking the touring trophy of the two. Rush tours became bigger and bigger each time. All those 90's albums are Gold status, heck even Rush Vapor Trails peaked at #6 on US Billboard 200. Your talking about progressive rock albums from the 70s versus two prog rock acts into the 90's..Not much compares to CTTE and ItCOtKC. -------------
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 27 2021 at 09:37
Genesis, even though I bought four Rush CD albums yesterday. 
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 27 2021 at 10:35
| At this very moment, Rush. |
Posted By: Umeda
Date Posted: September 27 2021 at 12:38
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A vote for the best trio ever ------------- Not for rent. To any God or government. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: September 27 2021 at 13:25
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^That's odd, I didn't see ELP on the list. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: September 28 2021 at 00:38
| ^I mean, maybe they're referring to the three-man lineup of Genesis, haha. Must be the one with Ray Wilson right???? |
Posted By: Umeda
Date Posted: September 28 2021 at 07:43
Definitely not ------------- Not for rent. To any God or government. |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: September 28 2021 at 08:06
| As Rush are a second order group (i.e. they recorded after the start of the progressive movement) then they have no comparison to Genesis, who were innovators. Thus, Rush had reference points relating to extant bands and recordings (arguably Genesis did too, The Nice, Rare Bird etc. but prog was in its infancy). Rush chose to debut with a straight ahead rock album in 1974 and then matured into (mainly) sophisticated hard rock. |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: September 28 2021 at 08:28
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Rush for me. Over the last 10 years or so though I have come to really appreciate and enjoy pre-Abacab Genesis. ------------- We all dwell in an amber subdomain, amber subdomain, amber subdomain. My face IS a maserati |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: September 28 2021 at 08:35
I have to agree. Rush hardly petered out after the mid 80s. ------------- We all dwell in an amber subdomain, amber subdomain, amber subdomain. My face IS a maserati |