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Topic: Progressive Movie Scores
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Subject: Progressive Movie Scores
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 13:39
Much like jazz, prog+movies is potentially a marriage made in heaven. It should have been combined much more often. And here’s 24 of the ones I could think of that I enjoy enough to reccomend.

I could easily have included some genuinely progressive Stelvio Cipriani, Ennio Morricone, Bruno Nicolai mm… titles but I’ll stick to "PA artists". I'm mainly interested in full scores and not collections of songs.

I should perhaps come back with videoes/examples and such... but haven't got the time right now. So for now I'll leave you with this lovely thing:







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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 13:44
I really like that Gong album. Second and third choices would be the two Goblin albums.

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 13:53
Tangerine Dream steals the show for me in this poll. Smile


Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 14:09
Other-Juergen Fritz-Hard To Be A God


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 14:23
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Other-Juergen Fritz-Hard To Be A God
Really? You're like the world's most faithful fan:)


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 14:33
Don't know enough of these to vote, but I do quite like Aguirre. 

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 15:00
So many I love here and I know the majority. The Wicker Man is a fave, those Frizzi and Goblins. The Popol Vuhs, love J.A Seazer. But I'm feeling Lucifer Rising right now....

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 15:35
Goblin (Profondo Rosso). Great album.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 15:37
I own 10+ scores from this poll (Vangelis, Hancock, Goblin, Emerson, Frizzi, Libra, Popol Vuh, etc.), but there can be only one...




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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 16:17
"Thief" is one of my favorite thrillers.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 17:11
Body Love for being so stuck in the late '70s matrix.



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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 17:55
Vangelis - Blade Runner
Tangerine Dream - Thief
Keith Emerson - Inferno


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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 18:11



Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 18:53
I wish there was a great King Arthur movie that used Wakeman's album (or an adaptation from it) as a soundtrack.


Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 19:40
Goblin "Profondo Rosso", great album!


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 19:52
I Libra got my vote but I'm a big fan of that Gong album along with Ash Ra Tempel and Bobby Beausoleil's albums.

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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 21:06
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Other-Juergen Fritz-Hard To Be A God
Really? You're like the world's most faithful fan:)
That is nice of you to say that-thanks. Hard To Be A God works wonders for me; it was hard to order from Canada way back in the day (1989) but now I have-and cherish-it.


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 17 2021 at 21:40
Hi,

Vangelis - "Blade Runner" is great, but remember he won the Oscar for "Chariots of Fire"
Klaus Schulze - "Bodylove" was badly used in the film.
Popol Vuh - "Aguirre" over "Nosferatu" simply because of the ending sequence which is amazing.
Tangerine Dream - "Sorcerer" would likely be their best and it was the last concert series they did before Edgar passed away. They scored the whole film, not just an LP's worth.
Mogwai - "Kin" should probably be mentioned before "Atomic" since the music is way better used and directed in the film.
Goblin - Hard to even choose one, specially when so many of the films were badly directed and did not know how to use the music.

Have not seen some of these listed. Bummer!


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 00:03
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

Vangelis - "Blade Runner" is great, but remember he won the Oscar for "Chariots of Fire"
Klaus Schulze - "Bodylove" was badly used in the film.
Popol Vuh - "Aguirre" over "Nosferatu" simply because of the ending sequence which is amazing.
Tangerine Dream - "Sorcerer" would likely be their best and it was the last concert series they did before Edgar passed away. They scored the whole film, not just an LP's worth.
Mogwai - "Kin" should probably be mentioned before "Atomic" since the music is way better used and directed in the film.
Goblin - Hard to even choose one, specially when so many of the films were badly directed and did not know how to use the music.

Have not seen some of these listed. Bummer!
Most of the time I wish the music on these albums was put to much better use. Very few directors of cult/horror etc.. from the 1960's-1970's (and early 80's) seemed to have a clue in how to use all this fantastic music that was made for them. And most of the time the score was a far superior work/product on its own, than the actual film. But listening to the soundtracks for some of my favorite movies, like Nosferatu, Aguirre - the largely unused music on them, gets a life on its own. And I remember the feel of Herzogs movies through them - not the other way around.

-About ten of these I haven't seen at all. I tend to like soundtracks as an approach to creating music in itself. Haven't heard/seen Kin, but will do something about that.

-Winning an Oscar is hardly an argument. That's like saying "remember Jethro Tull won a grammy for Crest of a Knave". Chariots of Fire probably does what it's supposed to perfectly, but as I haven't seen the movie it sounds like music composed for the olympic games opening ceremony or something like that (at least about 2/3ds of it). 

Anyway, I can't believe I forgot to include my one of my favorite combinations of moving images/music:




Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 00:11
Herbie Hancock here.

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 00:47
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Goblin - Hard to even choose one, specially when so many of the films were badly directed and did not know how to use the music.
I love Profondo Rosso - both the movie and score. Do you think it's badly directed? This at least is a stroke of genius




Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 03:21
I know a number of Mogwai scores and love them, but I don't know this one. Ultimately I'll go with Thief ahead of Aguirre, but I don't know that many.
A great great underrated score is Bjork's Dancer in the Dark, although one might say that's not a score but rather a musical.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 05:13
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I know a number of Mogwai scores and love them, but I don't know this one. Ultimately I'll go with Thief ahead of Aguirre, but I don't know that many.
A great great underrated score is Bjork's Dancer in the Dark, although one might say that's not a score but rather a musical.
I don't know much about Mogwai really. Outside of Les Revenants and this.

Selmasongs is underrated? I'm not much of a fan myself, so maybe.


Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 05:43
Death Wish (soundtrack) - Wikipedia


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 05:48
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I know a number of Mogwai scores and love them, but I don't know this one. Ultimately I'll go with Thief ahead of Aguirre, but I don't know that many.
A great great underrated score is Bjork's Dancer in the Dark, although one might say that's not a score but rather a musical.
I don't know much about Mogwai really. Outside of Les Revenants and this.

Selmasongs is underrated? I'm not much of a fan myself, so maybe.

Have you seen the film? Not sure whether this can be appreciated on its own - the way music is used in this film is very unique, something really special. Actually even Bjork's character speaking in the film is a force of nature.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 06:08
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I know a number of Mogwai scores and love them, but I don't know this one. Ultimately I'll go with Thief ahead of Aguirre, but I don't know that many.
A great great underrated score is Bjork's Dancer in the Dark, although one might say that's not a score but rather a musical.
I don't know much about Mogwai really. Outside of Les Revenants and this.

Selmasongs is underrated? I'm not much of a fan myself, so maybe.

Have you seen the film? Not sure whether this can be appreciated on its own - the way music is used in this film is very unique, something really special. Actually even Bjork's character speaking in the film is a force of nature.
Honestly I've been actively avoiding it after seeing some of the other erlier Von Trier-movies (love Melancholia and Antichrist). I have huge problems with stories or plots where I feel emotionally manipulated in not very subtle ways. They make me feel misearble and angry simultaneously. And I suspect this is such a story.


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 08:26
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Most of the time I wish the music on these albums was put to much better use. Very few directors of cult/horror etc.. from the 1960's-1970's (and early 80's) seemed to have a clue in how to use all this fantastic music that was made for them. And most of the time the score was a far superior work/product on its own, than the actual film. But listening to the soundtracks for some of my favorite movies, like Nosferatu, Aguirre - the largely unused music on them, gets a life on its own. And I remember the feel of Herzogs movies through them - not the other way around.
...

Hi,
It's specially hard to compare some of these, with the really great ones like Maurice Jarre, and a couple of others who did some magnificent work all around. The better issue is that David Lean was not afraid of the music and in at least one film made sure that the music was one of the most important parts.

The other one I like, but it will hardly get a mention here, is Bernard Herrmann, whose soundtracks for some sci-fi films were super and really far out, despite some of them being really off kilter and strange in terms of the conducting and the instrument definition. And he did this even more on Hitchcock films, although Hitchcock was probably tone death since he never used the music properly at all, and I think it is one of his worst bits in directing. I imagine that someone that did the cutting was the one that found a way to use the music, or at least Mr. Herrmann adjusted a piece to fit the part in the film. In general, I find Mr. Herrmann not that great in Hitchcock, but maybe I need to listen to some more soundtracks from him. But I love his sci-fi soundtracks and it is a bunch of albums worth getting.

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

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Chariots of Fire probably does what it's supposed to perfectly, but as I haven't seen the movie it sounds like music composed for the Olympic games opening ceremony or something like that (at least about 2/3ds of it).
...

I'm guessing that Vangelis found the shot about the chairs and that it was going to get cut up as not worth anything until he probably said ... wait ... save that until tomorrow! And he came up with the sound bits for it, that made it seem even better in the film. Regardless of the music, it is a good film with some very nice performances and worth the merits that it got. 

One strange note. Using music in film seems to be almost a standard thing for American and English film, although the French have tried (Tous Les Matins du Monde/Un Coeur en Hiver and many others about music), but I am not sure that the French did it as well. Italy is weird, specially as it is such a mecca of great music and an inspiration for so many bands that are very classically minded, but their film? Lucky to find one that has great stuff, although GOBLIN did well, but sadly, these are very good on the album, but not used as much in the films themselves. I would like to see a well done film with GOBLIN music ... but not sure it will be done in Italy where music in film seems to be incidental. Germany kinda starts and ends with Werner Herzog, and Popol Vuh, and the funny note that was given about Werner in his early days, when Florian had piled up many pieces of music in his closet and seems he told Werner to have at it ... and the following week, Werner comes running ... look ... I GOT A FILM! and he did a bunch of them in the early days with Popol Vuh's music! (There is nowhere any information about Florian ever putting together music for Werner at all! Which suggests that Werner used the visual ideas from the music to create a lot of his films, and the ending sequence in AGUIRRE, is the perfect example!).

Some Chinese films have used music well. Some Japanese films haven't at all, although a film or two always shows up with good music.

The only odd thing for me is considering these "progressive" ... since they really have nothing in common with the definition of the term, in my book, and in most cases the music was used simply to enhance the film, and I wonder how much of it is an actual part of the film, unless we are talking Ken Russell, and his use of music in so many films is out of this world and fantastic in many cases!


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 09:57
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

The only odd thing for me is considering these "progressive" ... since they really have nothing in common with the definition of the term, in my book, and in most cases the music was used simply to enhance the film, and I wonder how much of it is an actual part of the film, unless we are talking Ken Russell, and his use of music in so many films is out of this world and fantastic in many cases!
Its sort of wrong yes and doesn't mean much else than "PA-related artist that has composed movie scores - or made music for movies". As we're posting in the "Progressive Music Lounge" right now, but very little we discuss here is genuinely progressive anyway. I suppose I could rename it "Progressive-or Prog artists who has made movie scores"... or something similar (but I won't).


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 12:06
Regarding the OPs earlier comment on Alain Goraguer's La Planète Sauvage, had that been included then I probably would have voted for it.

I am very big on soundtracks, and with many of those in my collection I have not watched the film and so it is the music itself I value and is not being judged based on how it was used in the film.  I voted Luccifer Rising, which I have seen, but The Wicker Man is my favourite of these based on my associations with the film (I love that film and a while back it was my most listened to soundtrack).  Not Prog by the way this site uses it, but more recently I have been very into The Rocky Horror Picture Show soundtrack.  

So many Prog artist and non-Prog artist soundtrack composers that I love.  I think it was Moroder's Midnight Ecxpress and Doldinger's Das Boot soundtracks that started me on collecting.  Mentioned by the OP, but I love Morricone  Of the more Hollywood type names, I love Jerry Goldsmith (the Logan's Run soundtrack is awesome to me) and John Barry soundtracks .  I love lots of Zbigniew Preisner and Michael Nyman.  And I like lots of John Carpenter ones.

One of my favourite films of the last decade is Under the Skin, and I want to mention a track from the soundtrack by Mica Levi.


Fora more moder n one, I also love Dan Jones (not the most original, which works).  This is the soundtrack for Louis Theroux's My Scientology Movie.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL6BNDevRPI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL6BNDevRPI   I just love it.


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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 12:25
Well, I'm very much into film, but I'm much less into soundtracks once disconnected from the films. I mean, a good film score supports the film but doesn't overshadow it, which often means to me that the soundtrack without the film looses - part of - its interest (at least, my interest). In my opinion there are not many soundtracks that can stand alone, without the film, and all of these mentioned are part of those. I could vote for Popol Vuh's Nosferatu, but I've attended live film-concerts of this film that easily exceed Popol Vuh's soundtrack...
In the end, I think that the best soundtracks are not made by a single artist, especially not a prog artist. There some great film composers, but that's another discussion. So, no vote from me.


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 13:18
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Goblin - Hard to even choose one, specially when so many of the films were badly directed and did not know how to use the music.

That shouldn't affect your enjoyment of the music apart from the film.

Still, I disagree. Argento and Romero used their music effectively, with the best examples, naturally, being Profondo Rosso, Suspiria and Dawn of the Dead.

Claudio Simonetti's done a few scores on his own, and they all range from very good to outright spectacular, e.g. Opera, The Versace Murder and Il Cartaio (The Card Player).

Some of Rick Wakeman's scores should have been included in the poll, e.g. The Burning and G'olé!


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 13:21
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Regarding the OPs earlier comment on Alain Goraguer's La Planète Sauvage, had that been included then I probably would have voted for it.

A fabulous score, indeed.

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I think it was Moroder's Midnight Ecxpress and Doldinger's Das Boot soundtracks that started me on collecting.  Mentioned by the OP, but I love Morricone  Of the more Hollywood type names, I love Jerry Goldsmith (the Logan's Run soundtrack is awesome to me) and John Barry soundtracks .  I love lots of Zbigniew Preisner and Michael Nyman.  And I like lots of John Carpenter ones.

Midnight Express was one of my earliest (cassette) soundtrack purchases, too. Then I got Moroder's The Cat People and was really wowed.

A mention for Goldsmith's electronic score for Runaway: superb.




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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 15:45
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Regarding the OPs earlier comment on Alain Goraguer's La Planète Sauvage, had that been included then I probably would have voted for it.
perfect as La Planète Sauvage is, I think I'll still land on Nosferatu - where I would be cheating a little and really just vote for my double album version - that combines the two original, separate releases. It's one of those albums I occasionally play over and over all day. Never wrong to return to that universe.


Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 15:55
Vangelis wins this poll for me, easily: his Blade Runner soundtrack is legendary.

But it's hard to watch that opening shot of Herzog's Aguirre and not vote for Popol Vuh...


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 15:59
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Well, I'm very much into film, but I'm much less into soundtracks once disconnected from the films.
I think I'm the opposite of you. Closer to 90% of the soundtracks I own, I haven't actually seen the movie. I can't say I'm into film (although I'm very much into the films I'm into). I'm more into the idea of (a) film. But good soundtracks often suggest something better than the actual movie its lifted from, so I might as well make up my own images.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 16:11
Goblin - Profondo Rosso


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 18:14
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Goblin - Hard to even choose one, specially when so many of the films were badly directed and did not know how to use the music.

That shouldn't affect your enjoyment of the music apart from the film.
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Claudio Simonetti's done a few scores on his own, and they all range from very good to outright spectacular, e.g. Opera, The Versace Murder and Il Cartaio (The Card Player).
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Hi,

I only have about 12 or 13 GOBLIN albums and have been on them since 1975 or 1976 I think it was. In general, though, I'm not sure that I have enjoyed anything by Dario Argento, and it was kinda started at the time when horror material went to guts and gore and more gore and blood, and by that time I went out the door. I came up with a lot of HAMMER films, and they were more suggestive than they were bloody.

Claudio's version is more musically interesting for me, although I have not seen it used in a film as yet ... I keep looking for those films. Claudio's material, as well as Goblin, is, and has been, a very strong part of Space Pirate Radio in its 48 years.


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 19:29
I must admit that movie soundtracks have really never been my thing but just before this summer I spent some time with the Twin Peaks soundtrack by Angelo Badalamenti and really enjoyed it. I know were talking TV series here not a movie but man that one hit the spot.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 19:34
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

I must admit that movie soundtracks have really never been my thing but just before this summer I spent some time with the Twin Peaks soundtrack by Angelo Badalamenti and really enjoyed it. I know were talking TV series here not a movie but man that one hit the spot.

At least Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me was a theatrical release.  I love that soundtrack as well and have been very into the cover album, Xiu Xiu - Plays the Music of Twin Peaks.  I actually play that more than the original music.  I wonder how many in PA realise that my avatar is a Twin Peaks reference?


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 18 2021 at 20:07
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

I must admit that movie soundtracks have really never been my thing but just before this summer I spent some time with the Twin Peaks soundtrack by Angelo Badalamenti and really enjoyed it. I know were talking TV series here not a movie but man that one hit the spot.

At least Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me was a theatrical release.  I love that soundtrack as well and have been very into the cover album, Xiu Xiu - Plays the Music of Twin Peaks.  I actually play that more than the original music.  I wonder how many in PA realise that my avatar is a Twin Peaks reference?

I knew you were a Twin Peaks fan but didn't know that about your avatar. I must admit I've never even seen that show even though I've heard so much about it over the years. A case of not getting the channel back in the day. Hard to believe that these days but I remember not even being able to get cable here back in the day.


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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: September 19 2021 at 01:00
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Most of the time I wish the music on these albums was put to much better use. Very few directors of cult/horror etc.. from the 1960's-1970's (and early 80's) seemed to have a clue in how to use all this fantastic music that was made for them. And most of the time the score was a far superior work/product on its own, than the actual film. But listening to the soundtracks for some of my favorite movies, like Nosferatu, Aguirre - the largely unused music on them, gets a life on its own. And I remember the feel of Herzogs movies through them - not the other way around.
...

Hi,
It's specially hard to compare some of these, with the really great ones like Maurice Jarre, and a couple of others who did some magnificent work all around. The better issue is that David Lean was not afraid of the music and in at least one film made sure that the music was one of the most important parts.

The other one I like, but it will hardly get a mention here, is Bernard Herrmann, whose soundtracks for some sci-fi films were super and really far out, despite some of them being really off kilter and strange in terms of the conducting and the instrument definition. And he did this even more on Hitchcock films, although Hitchcock was probably tone death since he never used the music properly at all, and I think it is one of his worst bits in directing. I imagine that someone that did the cutting was the one that found a way to use the music, or at least Mr. Herrmann adjusted a piece to fit the part in the film. In general, I find Mr. Herrmann not that great in Hitchcock, but maybe I need to listen to some more soundtracks from him. But I love his sci-fi soundtracks and it is a bunch of albums worth getting.

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

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Chariots of Fire probably does what it's supposed to perfectly, but as I haven't seen the movie it sounds like music composed for the Olympic games opening ceremony or something like that (at least about 2/3ds of it).
...

I'm guessing that Vangelis found the shot about the chairs and that it was going to get cut up as not worth anything until he probably said ... wait ... save that until tomorrow! And he came up with the sound bits for it, that made it seem even better in the film. Regardless of the music, it is a good film with some very nice performances and worth the merits that it got. 

One strange note. Using music in film seems to be almost a standard thing for American and English film, although the French have tried (Tous Les Matins du Monde/Un Coeur en Hiver and many others about music), but I am not sure that the French did it as well. Italy is weird, specially as it is such a mecca of great music and an inspiration for so many bands that are very classically minded, but their film? Lucky to find one that has great stuff, although GOBLIN did well, but sadly, these are very good on the album, but not used as much in the films themselves. I would like to see a well done film with GOBLIN music ... but not sure it will be done in Italy where music in film seems to be incidental. Germany kinda starts and ends with Werner Herzog, and Popol Vuh, and the funny note that was given about Werner in his early days, when Florian had piled up many pieces of music in his closet and seems he told Werner to have at it ... and the following week, Werner comes running ... look ... I GOT A FILM! and he did a bunch of them in the early days with Popol Vuh's music! (There is nowhere any information about Florian ever putting together music for Werner at all! Which suggests that Werner used the visual ideas from the music to create a lot of his films, and the ending sequence in AGUIRRE, is the perfect example!).

Some Chinese films have used music well. Some Japanese films haven't at all, although a film or two always shows up with good music.

The only odd thing for me is considering these "progressive" ... since they really have nothing in common with the definition of the term, in my book, and in most cases the music was used simply to enhance the film, and I wonder how much of it is an actual part of the film, unless we are talking Ken Russell, and his use of music in so many films is out of this world and fantastic in many cases!

I read a quote somewhere that Hitchcock in the 60's asked Bernard Hermann to write something catchy. Soon after Bernard quit so I suspect you're right that Hitchcock was tone deaf. In this poll surely Vangelis wins. The music to Blade Runner is ground breaking, much better than the work he did in Chariots of Fire.


Posted By: Guy Guden
Date Posted: September 19 2021 at 03:58
so Pink Floyd are outside of this one?  MORE (my favourite), LA VALEE, ZABRISKIE POINT.  personally, I would suggest Colin Towns for FULL CIRCLE/THE HAUNTING OF JULIA.  there are far too many films with great soundtracks, whether by progressive or avant-garde artists, or classical or jazz musicians who would experiment.  Bernard Herrmann is indeed great... THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, JASON & THE ARGONAUTS, JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH, FAHRENHEIT 451 are the seeds of progressive music.  I wouldn't have created SPACE PIRATE RADIO if I hadn't heard Bebe & Louis Barron's first, all electronic score for FORBIDDEN PLANET as a child in 1956.  thank you, everyone.

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 19 2021 at 05:54
Originally posted by Guy Guden Guy Guden wrote:

so Pink Floyd are outside of this one?  MORE (my favourite), LA VALEE, ZABRISKIE POINT. 
I lika a song here and a tune there, but as full albums/scores I don't really enjoy any of them all that much. At least not as much as anything I actually included in the poll.

Originally posted by Guy Guden Guy Guden wrote:

personally, I would suggest Colin Towns for FULL CIRCLE/THE HAUNTING OF JULIA.
One of my absolute favorite soundtracks, but this time I decided to include only PA-artists (one could argue Colin Towns should be in the PA-index based on Full Circle - but he isn't).


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 19 2021 at 06:00
I've seen half of these films, but I don't have the soundtracks present in my head. I'm not really a soundtrack listener, because often the film is lacking and without the film I generally don't enjoy the music as much as with the film. From the ones I know I'll go for Popol Vuh's Nosferatu (because it's a silent film? I'm asking myself...).


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 19 2021 at 06:15
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

From the ones I know I'll go for Popol Vuh's Nosferatu (because it's a silent film? I'm asking myself...).
Herzog's Nosferatu is not a silent film no.


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 19 2021 at 06:29
Oh dammit, where does that short-circuit come from? Pavlov? When I see "Nosferatu", I think "Murnau"... (and I even have seen that Herzog film...!)
Still, I think it is one of Popol Vuh's soundtracks that stands alone quite well.

Edit: It's a funny thing, and I'm more explaining it to myself than something else: I saw Herzog's film a long time ago (during my film studies late 80s, early 90s) and it didn't leave the same impression as Murnau's Nosferatu, which I've seen several times (up till rather recently), and several times with live accompaniment (not Popol Vuh, though). I started listening Popol Vuh's music only in the noughties, without the films, so - strangely - I associate this soundtrack more with Murnau's film than with Herzog's...



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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 19 2021 at 09:43
Originally posted by Guy Guden Guy Guden wrote:

so Pink Floyd are outside of this one?  MORE (my favourite), LA VALEE, ZABRISKIE POINT.  personally, I would suggest Colin Towns for FULL CIRCLE/THE HAUNTING OF JULIA.  there are far too many films with great soundtracks, whether by progressive or avant-garde artists, or classical or jazz musicians who would experiment.  Bernard Herrmann is indeed great... THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, JASON & THE ARGONAUTS, JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH, FAHRENHEIT 451 are the seeds of progressive music.  I wouldn't have created SPACE PIRATE RADIO if I hadn't heard Bebe & Louis Barron's first, all electronic score for FORBIDDEN PLANET as a child in 1956.  thank you, everyone.

Hi,

Nice .. superlative!

I was going to add another bit on the early electronic soundtracks, which would be considered "progressive" a lot more than some material mentioned. And yes, Guy was the person that helped me appreciate so much of this stuff way back when, and his show just drowned (literally!) on soundtracks of all kinds! 

PF's MORE soundtrack is not appreciated for HOW it is used in the film, instead of having it all over as a normal film would have, and I think this is one of the things that most folks dislike about the music and its use. It doesn't sound as "good", but it makes the film more "real" and way better than we give it credit for. LA VALLEE is very wonderful to watch, although it is my thought that too much of the film is missing to help create a better story and use for the music. I have a feeling that it was meant to be just a "trip" film, with little story, but the studio thought that a story had to be there. Based on Barbet's take on the first film, a story was not necessarily needed, and it almost could be considered a documentary, which I think would have made LA VALLEE way better. ZABRISKIE POINT is nice, but I think that the stories about Antonioni, hurt and I think the studio added a story to what would likely not be a story, but just a life with some dope in it, and its enjoyment. Some of the music in it is very nice, aside from PF, but the film really hurts from its cuts and changes I think.

Nice to see you posting ... your talent and knowledge for these things is second to none!

PS/Sidenote:
Remember that in those days it was very cool and far out to experiment and improvise in most theater and a lot of films. The actors in LA VALLEE were almost all of them a part of English or French Theater, thus it is easier to think that some things are missing, and the film seems broken up in parts until they can assemble a "story" at a time when "story" was not as important in theater and film with all the experimentations.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 19 2021 at 10:22
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Regarding the OPs earlier comment on Alain Goraguer's La Planète Sauvage, had that been included then I probably would have voted for it.

A fabulous score, indeed.

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I think it was Moroder's Midnight Ecxpress and Doldinger's Das Boot soundtracks that started me on collecting.  Mentioned by the OP, but I love Morricone  Of the more Hollywood type names, I love Jerry Goldsmith (the Logan's Run soundtrack is awesome to me) and John Barry soundtracks .  I love lots of Zbigniew Preisner and Michael Nyman.  And I like lots of John Carpenter ones.

Midnight Express was one of my earliest (cassette) soundtrack purchases, too. Then I got Moroder's The Cat People and was really wowed.

A mention for Goldsmith's electronic score for Runaway: superb.

I love the Cat People remake and the soundtrack (probably my third to get, and fourth was The Hunger soundtrack by various -- that was a disappointing purchase as it didn't have the full soundtrack -- was my first CD to purchase -- the Blade Runner soundtrack was also an early acquisition of mine, but I don't like the soundtrack or the film as much as I did in the 80s). I saw Runaway when it came out in the cinema, unlike Paul, I don't think it's a great film, quite fun, but I do like the soundtrack.   Mind you, I have only seen it once since it came out. Goldsmith also scored what might have been my fist watch on the family's VCR, which is Outland (it was either that or Midnight Express, think I saw both on the same night). 


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 19 2021 at 11:06
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

From the ones I know I'll go for Popol Vuh's Nosferatu (because it's a silent film? I'm asking myself...).
Herzog's Nosferatu is not a silent film no.

Herzog's film's full title is Nosferatu the Vampyre.


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 19 2021 at 11:17
Originally posted by Guy Guden Guy Guden wrote:

so Pink Floyd are outside of this one?  MORE (my favourite), LA VALEE, ZABRISKIE POINT.  personally, I would suggest Colin Towns for FULL CIRCLE/THE HAUNTING OF JULIA.  there are far too many films with great soundtracks, whether by progressive or avant-garde artists, or classical or jazz musicians who would experiment.  Bernard Herrmann is indeed great... THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, JASON & THE ARGONAUTS, JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH, FAHRENHEIT 451 are the seeds of progressive music.  I wouldn't have created SPACE PIRATE RADIO if I hadn't heard Bebe & Louis Barron's first, all electronic score for FORBIDDEN PLANET as a child in 1956.  thank you, everyone.

Full Circle aka THoJ is splendid. Too bad it's painfully OOP.

Speaking of forbidden planets, the Roger Corman-produced 1982 horror SF gem Forbidden World (aka Mutant) has a vibrant electronic rock score by Susan Justin.




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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 19 2021 at 13:43
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

From the ones I know I'll go for Popol Vuh's Nosferatu (because it's a silent film? I'm asking myself...).
Herzog's Nosferatu is not a silent film no.

Herzog's film's full title is Nosferatu the Vampyre.
Sure, but it's not the title of any of Popol Vuh's scores/albums


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 19 2021 at 14:28
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

From the ones I know I'll go for Popol Vuh's Nosferatu (because it's a silent film? I'm asking myself...).
Herzog's Nosferatu is not a silent film no.

Herzog's film's full title is Nosferatu the Vampyre.
Sure, but it's not the title of any of Popol Vuh's scores/albums

It's right on the cover. Herzog's title distinguishes it from the 1922 silent film.

2004 SPV remaster:


2018 BMG vinyl reissue:



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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 19 2021 at 14:34
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Midnight Express was one of my earliest (cassette) soundtrack purchases, too. Then I got Moroder's The Cat People and was really wowed.

A mention for Goldsmith's electronic score for Runaway: superb.

I love the Cat People remake and the soundtrack (probably my third to get, and fourth was The Hunger soundtrack by various -- that was a disappointing purchase as it didn't have the full soundtrack -- was my first CD to purchase -- the Blade Runner soundtrack was also an early acquisition of mine, but I don't like the soundtrack or the film as much as I did in the 80s). I saw Runaway when it came out in the cinema, unlike Paul, I don't think it's a great film, quite fun, but I do like the soundtrack.   Mind you, I have only seen it once since it came out. Goldsmith also scored what might have been my fist watch on the family's VCR, which is Outland (it was either that or Midnight Express, think I saw both on the same night).

Haha! Same reaction here. I pick up The Hunger and look at the titles. Half the album is classical from the film. Needs more of Michel Rubini's & Denny Jaeger's atmospheric electronic score! I bought it, anyway. Back then, I bought any electronic score that got published. LOL


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 20 2021 at 01:26
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

From the ones I know I'll go for Popol Vuh's Nosferatu (because it's a silent film? I'm asking myself...).
Herzog's Nosferatu is not a silent film no.

Herzog's film's full title is Nosferatu the Vampyre.
Sure, but it's not the title of any of Popol Vuh's scores/albums

It's right on the cover. Herzog's title distinguishes it from the 1922 silent film.

2004 SPV remaster:

2018 BMG vinyl reissue:

But those are both compilations of the two original releases originally titled:
Nosferatu: Brüder des Schattens - Söhne des Lichts
Nosferatu (On the Way to a Little Way)



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 20 2021 at 04:26
Keith Emerson - Inferno

Its a bit of a split album which might put a few off. You have the prog stuff like Mater Tenebrarum , Cigs, Ices etc and Tax Ride (through Rome) which is Emerson at his frenetic best. Then you have the traditional horror score approach (orchestration + piano) for the rest which, in my opinion, Emerson elevates. Love it all but like a lot of movie scores its disjointed and perhaps his next one Nighthawks was a bit more cohesive.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 20 2021 at 11:16
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

But those are both compilations of the two original releases originally titled:
Nosferatu: Brüder des Schattens - Söhne des Lichts
Nosferatu (On the Way to a Little Way)

The "compilation" (by default) makes the "movie score," even if the film doesn't actually use all of the music on either album (the album that became On the Way to a Little Way was recorded before Nosferatu the Vampyre and not intended for use as a film score till Herzog learned of it).


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 20 2021 at 11:20
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Keith Emerson - Inferno

Its a bit of a split album which might put a few off. You have the prog stuff like Mater Tenebrarum , Cigs, Ices etc and Tax Ride (through Rome) which is Emerson at his frenetic best. Then you have the traditional horror score approach (orchestration + piano) for the rest which, in my opinion, Emerson elevates. Love it all but like a lot of movie scores its disjointed and perhaps his next one Nighthawks was a bit more cohesive.

Inferno is fantastic. The piano theme is immense. I definitely prefer it to Nighthawks.


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 04:54
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

But those are both compilations of the two original releases originally titled:
Nosferatu: Brüder des Schattens - Söhne des Lichts
Nosferatu (On the Way to a Little Way)

The "compilation" (by default) makes the "movie score," even if the film doesn't actually use all of the music on either album (the album that became On the Way to a Little Way was recorded before Nosferatu the Vampyre and not intended for use as a film score till Herzog learned of it).
As with most of Popol Vuh's "scores" (recorded before, I mean). This compilation compiles those two original albums. The first one a few songs short, the second identically. None of them are closer to representing the movie than the two original releases.



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