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Topic: Relayer vs Red
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Subject: Relayer vs Red
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 00:45
Two 1974 epics! Who will prevail?! GO!!!

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 01:02
Yes

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 01:31
I'm a YES addict, but this time I'm for KC


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Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 02:02
bigger fan of Yes but its KC for the win this time


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 02:03
KC - Red 


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 02:44
Very close for me, since I love both albums, but Red gets my vote.


Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 03:20
Very hard to take a decision in this case. I love both equally. Besides, I think both are two important albums in what became to be known as prog metal style. So, I'm not going to vote in this poll.

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 03:23
Yes, I may be standing at The Gates of Delirium, but it's a Sound Chaser bet that Relayer is all set To Be Over and above KFC's little Red rooster album in the poll sometime Soon. Smile

Some hope! Tongue


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 03:24
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Yes, I may be standing at The Gates of Delirium, but it's a Sound Chaser bet that Relayer is all set To Be Over and above KFC's little Red rooster album in the poll sometime Soon. Smile

Some hope! Tongue

really? You mock King Crimson as KFC? That's a new low even for you. 


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 03:52
Relayer for me, one of my top 10 prog albums.


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 03:53
Going for the Yes . . .

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 03:57
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Yes, I may be standing at The Gates of Delirium, but it's a Sound Chaser bet that Relayer is all set To Be Over and above KFC's little Red rooster album in the poll sometime Soon. Smile

Some hope! Tongue

really? You mock King Crimson as KFC? That's a new low even for you. 
Maybe I'm just delirious. Tongue


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 04:01
Red


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 04:49
I like Red, but I do think it's overrated... Relayer.
 



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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 05:03
Relayer!

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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 05:05
Red


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 08:28
[QUOTE=I prophesy disaster]I like Red, but I do think it's overrated... Relayer.
 

agree 100%---plus I like noise but I like the melodic noise on Relayer more.


Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 08:31
My fav album by Yes vs my fav album by KC

IŽll decide later



Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 10:47
A good match up, but I have to go with RED!

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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 11:44
Relayer. Close match.

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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 13:35
Red for me.

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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 14:17
Defiantly Red for me. 


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 16:06
Relayer, but I notice a glimpse of contest here.

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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 18:55
Red is a masterpiece from the beginning to the end.

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Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 19:16
As much as I love Relayer, Red is my favorite King Crimson album and one of my top 10 prog albums in general; so I've gotta go with the latter. Now, if this was against Close to the Edge instead, it would be much tougher to decide between the two.

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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 20:00
Relayer



Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 20:07
Although Providence is a dreadful bore, there are better compositions on Red overall.

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 20:53
Redlayer

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Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 20:56
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Redlayer

Perfect LOL


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Won't you take me down, to the underground
Why oh why, there is no light
And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 21:26
I voted Relayer, just because of Gates of Delirium... but now I'm not so sure, because overall Red is a better album, and Starless is just as brilliant as the single outstanding song, even though I prefer it live (however, that's just the same for Gates).


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 30 2021 at 00:24
I'm obsessed with Red (my vote) and still haven't got through all that box set which is my most expensive music purchase ever.  Relayer has the magnificent Gates but the rest I don't care for much.


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: September 30 2021 at 02:00
Red is good, but Relayer wipes the floor with it in all capacities IMHO. Note for note, track for track, second by second.

Red also has horrible mastering and volume EQ working against it for me. Also a few boring tracks that kill the pacing and displace the opener and closer tracks for me.


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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: September 30 2021 at 02:11
Can't believe Red is out in front... Relayer is Yes at the top of their game


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 30 2021 at 02:41
Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Can't believe Red is out in front... Relayer is Yes at the top of their game

classic KC is usually the easy winner in polls. 


Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: September 30 2021 at 03:43
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Can't believe Red is out in front... Relayer is Yes at the top of their game

classic KC is usually the easy winner in polls. 

Lol - where were all their fans back in 74?  Deserting them, that's what!


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 30 2021 at 03:45
Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Can't believe Red is out in front... Relayer is Yes at the top of their game

classic KC is usually the easy winner in polls. 

Lol - where were all their fans back in 74?  Deserting them, that's what!

Deserting them? How and why? ConfusedLOL


Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: September 30 2021 at 04:06
Well, wasn't that their worst performing album of the 70s (apart from their live albums) - so people had stopped buying their stuff?  Their first two were top 10 but went down after...


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 30 2021 at 04:08
Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Well, wasn't that their worst performing album of the 70s (apart from their live albums) - so people had stopped buying their stuff?  Their first two were top 10 but went down after...

I've never heard or read anything about that.
Red is also one of their most popular albums these days, so I don't know. That's why I asked. Embarrassed


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 30 2021 at 04:51
Red was their lowest charting album in the 70's, reaching number 45 in the UK. Surprising, I think.

Their highest charting album was ITWOP reaching number 4 in the charts (ITCOTCK got to 5)

According to Wikipedia.

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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: September 30 2021 at 09:55
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Red was their lowest charting album in the 70's, reaching number 45 in the UK. Surprising, I think.

Their highest charting album was ITWOP reaching number 4 in the charts (ITCOTCK got to 5)

According to Wikipedia.

My CD has excerpts of some of the newspaper/zine reviews of the album from back then and they were pretty  mixed.  The critics pretty much missed the bus with this one.


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 30 2021 at 13:24
Red by KC.....not close for me.

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