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Topic: Head Hunters vs Abraxis
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Subject: Head Hunters vs Abraxis
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 07:21
Which fusion gem do you prefer, PA? GO!!!

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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 08:03
HH

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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 08:55
Abraxis is fusion?

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 09:02
Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Abraxis is fusion?
Yes? All kinds of fusions going on on that record isn't it? Jazz, rock, psych, latin afro cuban etc...

Never really got into Headhunters and much prefer Herbie's Mwandishi sextet. So Abraxas for me


Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 10:49
Abraxas - Fantastic album


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 12:05
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Abraxis is fusion?
Yes? All kinds of fusions going on on that record isn't it? Jazz, rock, psych, latin afro cuban etc...

Never really got into Headhunters and much prefer Herbie's Mwandishi sextet. So Abraxas for me

I would absolutely qualify Abraxis as fusion; I think PA itself classifies it at jazz/fusion?


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 12:18
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Abraxis is fusion?
Yes? All kinds of fusions going on on that record isn't it? Jazz, rock, psych, latin afro cuban etc...

Never really got into Headhunters and much prefer Herbie's Mwandishi sextet. So Abraxas for me

I would absolutely qualify Abraxis as fusion; I think PA itself classifies it at jazz/fusion?

PA classifies by the artist, not the album, and I think Santana was mostly included for Caravanserai which is much more of a PA JRF-worthy album than Abraxas, I think.

Abraxas for me.  There are many Hancock albums that I prefer to headhunters -- the Mwandishi Trilogy being my favourite, but I also like Death Wish (and Thrust) and earlier material like Empyrean Isles and Maiden Voyage much more than Head Hunters.


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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 13:47
Santana - Abraxis


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 15:15
Herbie Hancock, no question.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 16:33
Santana

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 16:44
There's no con-fusion here. It's Santana's Abraxas all the way for me in this poll, and probably any other poll too. Smile


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 18:41
Both are classics (though Abraxas is more rock and Head Hunters is more funk); can't choose.

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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 23:53
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Abraxis is fusion?
Yes? All kinds of fusions going on on that record isn't it? Jazz, rock, psych, latin afro cuban etc...

Never really got into Headhunters and much prefer Herbie's Mwandishi sextet. So Abraxas for me

I would absolutely qualify Abraxis as fusion; I think PA itself classifies it at jazz/fusion?

PA classifies by the artist, not the album, and I think Santana was mostly included for Caravanserai which is much more of a PA JRF-worthy album than Abraxas, I think.

Abraxas for me.  There are many Hancock albums that I prefer to headhunters -- the Mwandishi Trilogy being my favourite, but I also like Death Wish (and Thrust) and earlier material like Empyrean Isles and Maiden Voyage much more than Head Hunters.
 
Thrust and Man Child are my two favorite HH entries.

I put Abraxis in here solely to make PA argue about it lol.


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 09:24
Abraxas on these 2........Hancock's earlier jazz infused work especially Maiden Voyage and Speak Like A Child (and later 'trilogy') are far better than Headhunters funk style imho.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 10:04
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Abraxis is fusion?
Yes? All kinds of fusions going on on that record isn't it? Jazz, rock, psych, latin afro cuban etc...

Never really got into Headhunters and much prefer Herbie's Mwandishi sextet. So Abraxas for me

I would absolutely qualify Abraxis as fusion; I think PA itself classifies it at jazz/fusion?

PA classifies by the artist, not the album, and I think Santana was mostly included for Caravanserai which is much more of a PA JRF-worthy album than Abraxas, I think.

Abraxas for me.  There are many Hancock albums that I prefer to headhunters -- the Mwandishi Trilogy being my favourite, but I also like Death Wish (and Thrust) and earlier material like Empyrean Isles and Maiden Voyage much more than Head Hunters.
 
Thrust and Man Child are my two favorite HH entries.

I put Abraxis in here solely to make PA argue about it lol.

I've often thought that such arguments are the lifeblood of the PA forum, which is kind of sad in a way as I don't find it really important or terribly interesting, and it can now feel more like habit. Santana's suitability has often been questioned, and my stock answer is "think Caravanserai".  Of course Hancock's suitability has oft been questioned, who which I say, think Mwandishi trilogy (Sextant and Crossings particularly).

I had intended to mention Man Child too.  I have all of Hancock's albums from Inventions & Dimensions to Man Child.


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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: September 25 2022 at 00:09
Santana - Abraxis - Santana (1970)

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