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Topic: Ten studio albums from 1987, and ten from 1997Posted By: Logan
Subject: Ten studio albums from 1987, and ten from 1997
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 07:07
The top half of this list is from 1987 and the bottom half is from 1997.
I had a more ambitious idea for a poll, but it wasn't coming together as well as I would have liked. Ten albums from 1987 and ten from 1997 -- most of these made my top tens of the years in Mirazake's pertinent year topics. I did include two albums not in PA for 1997 as I am very big on Portishead and Stereolab (with Potishead my fave these days is Third from 2008), and there is one soundtrack with Hellraiser, which I wanted to mention.
1987:
Art Zoyd - Berlin Dead Can Dance - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun Kitaro - The Light of the Spirit Marillion - Clutching at Straws Mr. Sirius - Barren Dream Swans - Children of God David Sylvian - Secrets of the Beehive Thinking Plague - Moonsongs Voivod - Killing Technology Christopher Young - Hellraiser
1997:
Art Zoyd - Häxan Björk - Homogenic Current 93 - Horsey Godspeed You Black Emperor! - F♯A♯∞ Höyry-Kone - Huono Parturi Portishead - Portishead Radiohead - OK Computer Stereolab - Dots and Loops Tipographica - Floating Opera Robert Wyatt - Shleep
I had toyed with enabling multiple votes (choosing one for each year for instance), but instead people can list all their favourites on the list in a post. Additionally, people can mention other 1987 and 1997 studio album favourites that are not on the list. It would be a tough choice for me to choose just one or a few on the list. I'm guessing that Marillion will get the most votes and it won't be a tough choice for various people. I figured that if I did one per year, then there would be those that only felt comfortable voting for one album -- 1997 here is somewhat more representative of my tastes than 1987 as I opted to include a few albums that weren't in my top ten for 1987. Feel free to vote even if you only know one album in the poll as it is not a contest. Comments on your choice are appreciated.
If I had to choose one now from 1987, then it would be Children of God as I have been very into that of late. 1997 would be harder still, but I likely would opt for Stereolab's Dots and Loops in the end.
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Replies: Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 07:35
Edit: For some reason I didn't actually notice that there was a poll at the beginning:). Well, my vote would go to one of the two first from 1987 - or the first 1997 from my own list - which are all included in your poll I tried linking to full http://Roberto%20Laneri%20-%20Anadyomene-album%20%28on%20Vimeo%29,%20" rel="nofollow -
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 08:08
Marillion gets the nod, with Dead Can Dance running 2nd.
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Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 08:35
Marillion - Clutching at Straws.
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 08:46
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Edit: For some reason I didn't actually notice that there was a poll at the beginning:). Well, my vote would go to one of the two first from 1987 - or the first 1997 from my own list - which are all included in your poll I tried linking to full http://Roberto%20Laneri%20-%20Anadyomene-album%20%28on%20Vimeo%29,%20" rel="nofollow - Roberto Laneri - Anadyomene-album (on Vimeo), but it doesn't work. A really wonderful, highly reccomended album.
So to make a pleasing 1987-list I had to include albums I consider to be progressive, but may not be PA-material (mostly adventrous New Wavey or New Agey stuff).
Swans - Children of God Dead Can Dance - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun http://https://vimeo.com/191452674" rel="nofollow - Roberto Laneri - Anadyomene Rabih Abou-Khalil - Between Dusk and Dawn Danielle Dax - Inky Bloaters Elicoide - Elicoide Voivod - Killing Technology
Thinking Plague - Moonsongs
David Sylvian - Secrets of the Beehive
Art Zoyd - Berlin
Similar things could be said about my 1997-list + Stereolab is the ultimate progressive rock band to my ears.
Here, Here! So why aren't they in the PA database?
They're even referenced in the definition of Post Rock on the Post Rock/Math Rock page!!!
Stereolab - Dots and Loops Godspeed You Black Emperor! - F♯A♯∞ Ween - The Mollusk Radiohead - OK Computer Arcana - Arc of the Testimony Portishead - Portishead Robert Wyatt - Shleep Tangle Edge - Tarka Art Zoyd - Häxan
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 09:08
Clutching
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 09:12
These are two of the best Art Zoyd albums, and as such, somewhat boringly, I'd list them as number 1 and 2 in this poll, Haxan first (just about).
Further favourites: David Sylvian, Dead Can Dance, Swans, Thinking Plague, Bjork, GSYBE, Radiohead and Robert Wyatt.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 09:46
I love most of these albums, and I would say that those two Art Zoyd albums have been my traditional faves of their respective years. I gave the Swans a vote.
As for the issue of Stereolab, and I think this came up before, to me it is a kind of Crossover / Prog Related band, which obviously has been influenced by Krautrock such as Can and Neu! To know why it is not in PA, one would have to research (do searches to look through the history). I don't care if it's in or not as that has no effect on my enjoyment and I am not much a of a reviewer. Also, Pram, Broadcast and Stereolab (especially with Third) are related to me, and are as relevant as say Björk - is and there are stylistic overlaps with Swans and Radiohead material. They all have kinds of Crossover qualities to me.
Often something is or isn't included because of the quality of the suggestion threads, the general interest of PA forum members, the team members at the time and so on. Had I known Stereolab 14 or so years ago when I was making lots of suggestions, then I might have made a topic on it ad tried to convince people of its merits, but I put it more in the art pop/ indie pop realm than Prog Rock. Musically, I do put under a greater sort of prog umbrella, but its not something that I would want to suggest to PA or really offer my support for. I love Stereolab albums, and again, I won't enjoy the band more if it is in the archives, and I can talk about in the forums if it is or isn't included.
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 10:21
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 10:37
Shleep for me.
Another Stereolab fan here. Dots and Loops is a collaboration with Tortoise that I particularly like, although I don't think that their Krautrock/easy listening mash up really fits in to PA.
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
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Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 12:19
Höyry-Kone followed by GYBE.
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 12:57
Of these, David Sylvian.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 13:44
Radiohead for sure. So much fun when they were being compared to Yes, Genesis and Floyd in some magazines. HAH!
Posted By: rik wilson
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 14:21
David Sylvian- Secrets of the Beehive- A MASTERPIECE ! For me his last great album before the music started a measured decline. Of course his work with Fripp, Gunn, Mastelotto- the Fripp and Sylvian release was equally mind blowing.
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 14:27
Tough call.
Berlin, Marillion, Thinking Plague, and Godspeed, all are legitimate contenders.
I'll go with TP this time.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 14:40
richardh wrote:
Radiohead for sure. So much fun when they were being compared to Yes, Genesis and Floyd in some magazines. HAH!
Anyway, I think I have to go with Haxan here. One of my favorite AZ's. Not actually familiar with Berlin. Moonsongs is ok. Prefer the remix on the later versions of In this Life
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 19:38
David Sylvian
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 21:20
Of the list, I'll have to go with Godspeed's F#A#... absolute masterpiece.
I guess I'll take a crack at my own 1987 and 1997 lists. I'm assuming we don't have to use strictly PA bands/artists, right? Because I'll definitely be including some stuff that's not on the site.
1987 (in no order):
Voivod - Killing Technology
Prince - Sign O' the Times
Anthrax - Among the Living
Marillion - Clutching at Straws
Michael Jackson - Bad
Rush - Hold Your Fire
Testament - The Legacy
Savatage - Hall of the Mountain King
Candlemass - Nightfall
King Diamond - Abigail
1997 (again, in no order):
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - F♯ A♯ ∞
Bjork - Homogenic
Radiohead - OK Computer
Portishead - Dummy
Incubus - SCIENCE
Opeth - Morningrise
Devin Townsend - Ocean Machine: Biomech
Foo Fighters - The Colour and the Shape
Janet Jackson - The Velvet Rope
Children of Bodom - Something Wild
And a few honorable mentions for 1997, because it's one of my favorite years in music:
Deftones - Around the Fur
Enya - Paint the Sky with Stars
Blur - Blur
Shania Twain - Come On Over (laugh all you want, but don't knock it until you try it )
Hammerfall - Glory to the Brave
Voivod - Phobos
Stratovarius - Visions
Helmet - Aftertaste
Threshold - Extinct Instinct
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 22:28
BrufordFreak wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Similar things could be said about my 1997-list + Stereolab is the ultimate progressive rock band to my ears.
Here, Here! So why aren't they in the PA database?
They're even referenced in the definition of Post Rock on the Post Rock/Math Rock page!!!
I should have added "for it's era" after "the ultimate
progressive rock band". Because that was what I actually meant.
Listening to all their albums from 1993's Peng! & Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements
and well into the 00's - no other band that I can think of took what
progressive rock once was - and pushed it forward into the future quite
like them. At least not with an actual listening audience going to their
concerts and buying their albums. Certainly moreso than the
PA-celebrated bands Anglagard and Anekdoten (I quite like them both
still). Like Logan, it's not a big issue for me that they are not on PA,
and I'm sure the band themselves couldn't care less.
I
don't mind good, retro-sounding progrock at all (it's obviously made
out of love for the music), and there's very little I would have enjoyed
more than being in a band that sounded like we made 1970's/1980's
Giallo-scores for Dario Argento and Lucio Fulci. But as a listener I
usually find myself more intrigued by "progressive" rather than "prog".
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 22:37
Yeah, I'm a little surprised as well that Stereolab aren't on here. They'd make a good inclusion for post/math or crossover prog... sadly, I'm not a part of either of those teams
BUT, maybe I can suggest them to those teams and see what happens
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 09 2022 at 01:41
I didn't really have much more to add to Drew's (BrufordFreak's) "why aren't they in the PA database? " question about Stereolab that I didn't already say in response in the following linked thread: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=123763" rel="nofollow - Why, again, is Stereolab not included in PA? (CLICK)
I don't think of it as Prog genre really, more art/indie pop and even progressive pop with retro qualities where lounge meets Krautrock and the like. I love Stereolab. Aside from likening it to acts in PA such as Can and Neu!, I also liked it to things like Serge Gainsbourg, whose Histoire de Melody Nelson is definitely at least prog related to me. It is progressive in its retro way in the 90s going up, and Stereolab has inspired various later bands that I really like (Vanishing Twin, Melody's Echo Chamber methinks -- along with the likes of Pram and Broadcast). In a way, Stereolab rather seems almost too hip for PA, like with Broadcast, Pram, Velvet Underground, Nico, Serge Gainsbourg, Portishead....) I much prefer such music to typical kinds of mainstream modern Prog that may not be progressive (adjective), such as The Flower Kings and a lot of AORish kinds of Prog that are not my thing.
By the way, Stereolab was suggested to PA some years ago: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=111035" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=111035 (to Prog Related), but getting in there and getting checked has its own special process, and I would have had Crossover check it out first.
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: March 09 2022 at 02:09
Oh wow, great to see Stereolab in one of these polls - love that album! (John McEntire has some hand in that!) Robert Wyatt second from the 90s; Art Zoyd for the 80s.
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: March 09 2022 at 03:13
Mr. Sirius - Barren Dream
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: March 09 2022 at 18:10
So I'm thinking this is multiple choice like the "fives" poll. Good thing "Haxan" was my first(and only) vote. Very happy to have it at number one. I was going with a top three including Secrtets Of The Beehive and F#A#...
I had more favourites on the "Fives" apparently.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 09 2022 at 18:45
Mellotron Storm wrote:
So I'm thinking this is multiple choice like the "fives" poll. Good thing "Haxan" was my first(and only) vote. Very happy to have it at number one. I was going with a top three including Secrtets Of The Beehive and F#A#...
I had more favourites on the "Fives" apparently.
Good to see you again. I thought about enabling multiple votes. I too have more favourites in the other poll as with this I listed my favourites along with ones that I know are highly regarded by others, and in the other I really like all of the albums. Also, when narrowing the choices down to five per year, even if just choosing from my own faves, chances are that every one will be of more value to me, and neither 1987 nor 1997 are nearly as well-represented in my collection as many other years. I still left off one I really care about to include ones that I thought would appeal to different audiences.
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.