Porcupine Tree - Closure/Continuation, out now
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Topic: Porcupine Tree - Closure/Continuation, out now
Posted By: Zeph
Subject: Porcupine Tree - Closure/Continuation, out now
Date Posted: June 24 2022 at 11:49
Anyone given it a go yet? I haven’t found the time today.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 24 2022 at 11:58
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It's decent after the first listen, will come up with an opinion after more listens. But today's release has been dampened....
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: June 24 2022 at 12:00
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Lots of familiar PT stuff going on here. Great production, as always. Decent mix of heavy and lite tunes. Personal favourites... Track 1 - Harridan Track 3 - Rats Return Track 5 - Herd Culling Overall...a solid 7/10, maybe 7.5/10 ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 24 2022 at 14:12
I don't get mine till Monday  . Will be next Friday before first listen as I'm out of town next week... -------------   
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 24 2022 at 14:55
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It arrived in the post today, and first listen as I type this. First impressions are a decent album, which is a good sign that repeated listens will turn out to be a bloody good album! ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 24 2022 at 16:41
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It's good. 3.75 stars. Sounds samey, like PT. I do enjoy the heavy riff on "Chimera's Wreck" which is definately influenced by Rush. Fave song "Rats Return". |
Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: June 25 2022 at 12:02
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Fantastic album, very different from what I was expecting from them, tbh. There's a lot of SW solo work influence there, especially with how the bass guitar is played, but Richard textures is also more present and there's not much metal elements in it anymore. Probably their most complex work (lots of influence from the HCE and GfD era and not so much catchy choruses) and their most "textural" work since Signify days too. I'll never enjoy SW solo career as much as PT lol
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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: June 26 2022 at 07:33
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Just started digging into it. Rat's Return is fantastic. ------------- We all live in an amber subdomain, amber subdomain, amber subdomain. My face IS a maserati |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 26 2022 at 16:21
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After one listen I'd put it in the pretty decent to pretty good category. Way better than The Incident, although that's a low bar, so from that aspect alone I'm glad this thing exists. Not really sure why this needed to be PT over another solo album of his (although it is obviously quite different to his most recent solo outputs). But definitely something I will want to listen to again. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: June 26 2022 at 18:20
This interview providers some insight ------------- We all live in an amber subdomain, amber subdomain, amber subdomain. My face IS a maserati |
Man With Hat wrote:Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 26 2022 at 18:41
| I like it on initial listen. Definitely a much better ending (if it is) than The Incident. It does come across a bit like the band came up with a checklist of what goes into a Porcupine Tree album and made sure to check off as many things as possible. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 26 2022 at 22:41
Ah, thanks. I'll give this a watch when I have a momen.t  ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 28 2022 at 21:31
| I gave one listen to the album on spotify and I sort of didn't catch anything particularly noteworthy... but then the same happened the first time I heard Porcupine Tree online (it was not until I got my first albums, Coma Divine and Wilson's Grace for Drowning, that I really came to like his music). However, by listening to this album I remembered I hadn't even checked out Wilson's last solo album (having ever less albums physically available on stores doesn't help at all), so I gave that one a listen too, and unexpectedly I think I liked that one better... still I need to check them both out more to be sure. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 28 2022 at 23:48
Very interesting indeed. I like the part where he said he basically just lied about PT being over. lol ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Zeph
Date Posted: June 29 2022 at 01:55
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“Everybody lies”, Dr. House. Done my first two listenings and I like the album. It’s certainly PT and sometimes I wonder if Steven puts on his “PT voice” when recording for the band. I like The Incident too, so I didn’t expect anything else really. The question is how I feel about it after 10+ listenings. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 29 2022 at 05:07
| I've seen so many posts about this album on social media over the last few weeks, I thought it was already out. Might as well give it a listen then. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 29 2022 at 09:27
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#1 album on some UK chart listing I've seen.......Pretty cool for the prog scene. This for PT and then all the hype around the #1 song with Running Up That Hill and Kate Bush. The best thing for Kate is she owns all the rights to her songs, she will be getting some really nice royalty checks I have read, I think I read around $250K a week for being the #1 streamed song for the past several weeks. -------------
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: June 29 2022 at 09:36
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I haven't heard the album yet & I know this is a nit picky thing but I gotta say I don't like the cover art. Big white box with black text in a very generic font? I know that are probably going for the whole minimalist " so bad it's good thing" but it really doesn't wok . It's just so bad , it's bad. (sorry , occupational hazard, I'm a graphic designer)
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 29 2022 at 09:48
Nope, it stayed decent, and didn’t turn into bloody good  ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 29 2022 at 09:57
Yes, it would be wrong to be churlish, and it is a cause for celebration, although I do not think that we are witnessing any significant prog sales revival here. We can hope that it turns some more onto the genre, but Kate was sent to number one on the back of Stranger Things, I think on Notflicks, and Wilson has made quite a big thing on his past couple of albums of building up a fan base which would like his prog meets pop meets modern electronica stuff, and I say this as someone who rather enjoyed those albums, as my reviews confirm. Before C/C, their highest chart position was 23, so there is not a massive Barbieri or Harrison fan base out there, but a Wilson one. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: June 29 2022 at 13:33
Yeah, I found that interesting too.  ------------- We all live in an amber subdomain, amber subdomain, amber subdomain. My face IS a maserati |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 29 2022 at 15:16
Hi, From what I have heard off the toob, there are some nice things, including Mr. DD raving about this or that, and in my book making it seem like it is better than it really is. The one thing that none of us can argue about, is the fact that the technical side of the album is outstanding, and it sounds better, however, my thoughts still are that this is a SW album, a lot more than it is a PT album. It may seem like there is more Richard and Gavin in this, but it is a factor that the production seems to make them better and stronger. It has become too much of SW's ideas and lyrics, and they don't turn me on, and I wonder how much folks are ignoring the content because of the sound of the album, which, again, due to the production is indeed excellent ... but at some point, I think that "music" is a lot more than just "production" and I'm not sure this is as important for SW as it is for fans of the band. No preferred, or favored, songs ... and maybe I wish that the band was less afraid of the song material and allow itself to create tapestries as it did a long time ago ... how times change, and we don't think that the tapestries meant anything at all anymore. I would like to enjoy more new music at this time ... I think I have heard too much SW and i don't think I will be purchasing this, unless I can find some used copies on a site or two for a buck or 2. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 30 2022 at 09:37
| I'm not going to purchase a physical copy as I'm trying to get away from CD's and move towards vinyl. There is of course a vinyl edition but after streaming it on Apple, I feel it's just a tad too underwhelming to warrant the outlay of £25. Also going to pass on the live shows. I saw them on tour just before the release of FOABP and I know it probably won't be better than that. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 30 2022 at 11:47
Yes, that £25 is a huge amount. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 30 2022 at 22:32
I tend to agree with most but I do believe there has been a good chunk of "cult band" status for PT the past 10 years. Many younger fans learning about them and digging into the back catalog. The hiatus allowed these new fans to catch up and as well start to yearn for a new release or a regrouping. The other music site I go to, there are numerous threads on PT and just the new album thread it is at about 70 pages of discussion. The feeling is most are very excited to have a new release, even though is seems most of these songs are several years in the making. All very positive in their reviews.....I'll be home tomorrow from work travel, so will spin the album on saturday as we have Brit Floyd to see Friday night... Certainly SW solo albums have helped a lot as well his reputation as a well respected mixing engineer, everyone knows his albums have a very high quality of sound. -------------
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 01 2022 at 13:09
In 1973 I paid £2.45 for Alice Cooper's Billion Dollar Babies. Now the Bank of England's inflation calculator won't let me enter £2.45 but an album costing £3 in 1973 would cost £26 now at the annual inflation rate, so it's about right. In fact it may be cheap as I'm guessing the PT album is a double?
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: July 02 2022 at 01:40
Yes, that album price in 1973 is probably equivalent to about £25 now, but it is not a like for like comparison, I believe, because physical music product was very expensive relatively in the 70’s and is relatively cheap now (cds are still on average only about a tenner), and vinyl now is probably seen by many as a niche product given the ubiquity of digital music. As regards the album length, the standard cd is 50 minutes long. Adding the bonus tracks gives you 66 minutes which probably would give you a double album in old technology, but not in cd terms. I think, though, we are agreed that it is a tad expensive for the quality of the product  ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 02 2022 at 07:06
Hi, Actually it depends ... from 1972 to 1982 (I moved away after that!), the majority of albums I got and that Space Pirate Radio got, were IMPORTS and they were all more expensive, and it was at the time between $15 and $20 dollars, depending on where it came from and via which airline, through Venus, or Hawaii. Personally, I find that "extra" stuff just a chance to take advantage of the excitement and collect the money while it is there and available easily enough, and SW is a record impresario and knows what sells and doesn't sell in his label, even if so much of the stuff is more "eccentric" than it is really good. I'm not even looking to purchase the thing. I very much appreciated the much more with it album by MARILLION than I did anything that SW has done ... he doesn't know how to be honest with himself, and instead ends up giving us lectures on what is right for him. Just what we need ... another God! Confused yet? Beware of advertising! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 04 2022 at 01:43
but he's been doing this forever. I well remember reading an interview he gave on the future of progressive music at the time of Stupid Dream and he was painting himself as the saviour even then. What I actually respect about him is his professionalism and hard work. As a person less so but then I tend to gravitate to someone like Rick Wakeman (good fun and about 10 times more talented)
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 04 2022 at 06:16
| I had a good listen to the album yesterday and was quite impressed, needs a couple more yet to fully appreciate but I'm liking it so far. If I can find the 10 track version on CD for a sensible price I might even buy it but it seems to be £50-60. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 05 2022 at 13:33
I'm in around 5-6 listens and I agree, very impressed with the album. Unfortunately the 3rd elusive bonus song, Love In the Past Tense only appears on the Bonus Disc included in the deluxe edition with BD/5.1/Atmos and not on any stand alone disc. The is a big bone of contention with many that purchased the "deluxe edition" that does not include all 3 bonus songs. Pretty stupid IMO of them not to include it all, I've heard it was due to this song not being ready at time of pressing the LPs and CDs, poor planning then. Best to just buy the 7 song CD and down load the 3 bonus songs. -------------
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 09:55
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Just listened to this the first time on Spotify. I would rate this 7.94602569 out of 10. It seems kind of pricey at the moment, so I'll look for this after the clamor of everyone trying to get it settles. I'm only going to get the standard CD release. Rats Return is my favorite. A close second is Chimera's Wreck.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 11:26
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 12:48
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I pre-ordered this off of Amazon, but unfortunately they are telling me that they don't have a delivery date but will let me know when it becomes available. This happened to me with the new Flower Kings album too, so I ended up ordering a different version. When I pre-ordered it, the CD was listed at $14.83, but they are now selling it for $27.15, so I guess that I will hold tight and see if I ever actually receive it. In the meantime, I guess I will need to give it a listen on Spotify. ------------- 
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 14:57
Buy from Ken Golden at https://www.lasercd.com/" rel="nofollow - LasersEdge , dude ships quick and always has good prices.......Bezos has more than enough money. I buy all my TFK records from Lasers Edge, I've stopped buying from Burning Shed, Kscope, TFK website as the shipping is insane from across the pond. Ken bulk ships from UK and the pricing is good....... For example on the latest Marillion album, the preorder from their website was like $45 shipping, I bought the album for $30. I have heard for some reason this PT C/C CD is in very short supply, hence the higher price for it. -------------
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 15:01
I rate it a pube hair higher at 7.94612569 out of 10. YMMV -------------
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 15:01
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yeah...it was listed on wayside for about two days before it was removed. Doesn't seem to be available anywhere atm, which is quite strange. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 17:00
Weird.......I just looked thru Discogs and the CD is only available from the UK and to the US runs about $40-$60 shipped. At this point your best deal is to download the non-physical album from iTunes for $10, or some other site...... -------------
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 17:08
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I don't pay for downloads. I can wait for the CD to appear, or if it was stupidly a one and done thing then I have a sh*t ton of other music to listen to. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 17:44
Well like I said, it's on Discogs to buy.... -------------
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 21:05
It's also on youtbe to listen to  ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 22:41
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Patience is a virtue. And a necessity. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 07 2022 at 03:06
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Oh I can wait. I just find it odd that less than a month since its official release its only regulated to second hand sites. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 07 2022 at 04:59
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Maybe they simply didn’t anticipate correctly the international demand. It’s still easily and cheaply available in the UK, in all places I just looked. 🤷🏻♂️ ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 07 2022 at 10:47
and for 'Merica, the CD is unobtainium, that's the weird part. Maybe I can sell mine for $1,200...  -------------
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 10 2022 at 05:56
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It has worked out pretty well for me to read some stuff and listen to the odd early singles to keep my expectations properly low. Somehow I hardly ever expect good things of heroes of the past. This is very useful, because then I'm easily positively surprised. The album sounds very good to me at the first go. It is true that it maybe sounds a bit too much like PT how we know them, so that it's not very adventurous, but if I love a style and it's done properly, I happily go for more of it. How well this ages through repeat listens remains to be seen.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 11 2022 at 10:12
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More listens this weekend, some songs are hitting more now especially Dignity, for me that one has Lightbulb Sun type mood all over it. Rats Return is also hitting harder in the vein of In Absentia. The very positive is that Barbieri is all over this record, which is great. Here's a good review by Sea Of Tranquility boyz....... -------------
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Posted By: Zeph
Date Posted: July 11 2022 at 15:07
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Some favorites so far: Dignity: Acoustic guitar and vocal harmonies. What’s not to like? I have to mention the keys/synths. I think Steven’s solo work (that I mostly love) has left me missing Barbieri’s contributions. The Rush-like guitar riffs add some fun to the track. Population Three: One of the best tracks, and I usually favor songs with vocals. I love it when these guys go at it with the instruments. Rats Return’s main riff reminds me of some other PT song, but I can’t remember which. The Herd Culling intro also has something familiar. I want to say from FOABP. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 11 2022 at 16:42
Different ears obviously.....Population Three is not doing it for me, was really looking forward to a great instrumental. Keeping an open mind/ears on it though! -------------
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 12 2022 at 18:14
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The vocal melody of Chimera's Wreck starts almost exactly like the chorus of Pink Floyd's Time. I've got to admit this has bugged me for two days before I realised where I know this from. (The album has a bit too many "already heard" moments for my taste, even though they mostly refer to themselves.) |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 13 2022 at 09:06
Harridan has SW~TFB synth bits in it as well, that little pad beat. As I said maybe the initial riff of these songs are from 10yrs ago or right after The Incident, but what was recorded has a 2022 feel to it, especially with a lot of SW solo bits in it. His falsetto vocals come into play as well... -------------
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Posted By: Zeph
Date Posted: July 13 2022 at 10:21
| I’m a fan of both PT and SW solo works, but have never become fully comfortable with his falsetto. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: July 14 2022 at 10:57
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I like it- 8/10 Damn- I haven't been here in a while... ------------- |
Posted By: PaulG
Date Posted: August 15 2022 at 13:23
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I finally received my preordered copy of the new PT release on the 14th. I ordered the deluxe version with bonus tracks. I did not like this release upon the first couple of listens. Today was the first day I actually started to like this release. Releases that take several listens to enjoy usually become favorites of mine. This hasn’t happened as yet but I usually need to give a release multiple listens before giving a comment so I’m still in this process. Definitely a more stripped back version of PT and I miss Colin on bass. I am suffering from an extremely rare form of tinnitus so this surely affected/affects my enjoyment too. The packaging leaves a lot to be desired. |