Interactive Poll : Let The Sun Shine In
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Topic: Interactive Poll : Let The Sun Shine In
Posted By: JD
Subject: Interactive Poll : Let The Sun Shine In
Date Posted: October 23 2022 at 07:49
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According to Dr. Sujata Udeshi, 98% of her patients present with
deficiencies of either vitamin D or vitamin B12, which she attributes to
lack of sunlight. Well folks, it's that time of year again. The days are getting shorter and the precious sunlight that we all bask in during the summer is diminishing, staving us of all the goodness it provides. Warmth and nutrients. Specifically Vitamins D and B12. As you may also know, B3 is also a vitamin as well as a model of Hammond organ used by many musicians. You can see where I'm going with this. This poll is for songs that either use organ as a main instrument or contain a solo or organ break. In accordance with my own self imposed rules : 1 - Go lean - Post a maximum of two videos 2 - Rework the deliverables - Include name of band and song title above video as well as time range for the Organ solo or break if applicable (ie: 2:43 - 3:07) 3 - Continuous Improvement - No PA listings permitted. However, if an artists listed on PA has done a project that is NOT listed, it's fair game (such as guesting on other albums or other genres and such). ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 23 2022 at 10:36
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I love this song. I listen to it at night, in the dark. It seems that the voice come from an another universe, it got something of ghostly, sepulchral sound, and this effect is amplified by the accompaniment of the organ. Masterpiece 1) Johnny Cash - Danny Boy 2) Charlatans! Now I remember the name of the British band that made some good commercial pop albums in the 1990s featuring the sound of a Hammond organ, musician Rob Collins, who later died young. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 23 2022 at 10:40
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Hehe, nice IA-poll theme. I first thought "can I find something outside of prog?" but then... And why just one organ when you can get four? This, in my humble opinion, is one of the most fascinating organ pieces available (you probably know this piece, but well...). Steve Reich - Four Organs: Just saw them live ten days ago, and it was a great concert. This one is from their first album. Tindersticks - Jism: I hope this is "main instrument" enough, otherwise you can always get their tea stain... Tindersticks - Tea Stain: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 23 2022 at 14:57
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Little Feat - Let It Roll (2:08 - 2:30) Alan Parker - Heavy Water ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 23 2022 at 16:24
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A lot of classic rock came to mind . So here's one. The Band - Chest Fever And the something more recent. This band kept showing up on my Bandcamp music feed a a few years back. From their debut album. Church of the Cosmic Skull - Evil in Your Eye |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 23 2022 at 18:19
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I gather that the church organ also counts!? Here's Samsara II by Claus Bantzer. In fact when I was born, Bantzer was church organist where my father worked. I love the church organ since my childhood but it took me some time to appreciate how good Bantzer actually was/is. From my twenties, I would regularly join my father on Good Friday to go to the church where Bantzer played a Good Friday improvisation, and some of those were brutally good. I love your topic introduction by the way!
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 24 2022 at 06:27
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I stopped by to say hi and to cheer you up a little bit with this track on this rainy day. I may bring something else later when I get around to it. :P Cory Henry: Holy Ghost! (Album: Operation Funk, 2022) |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 24 2022 at 10:37
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You guys are absolutely nailing it so far ! Exactly the sort of stuff I was hoping for, but I know there is more out there so...keep digging ! ^@Mila-13...Love It, Love it, Love it. Definitely a new guilty pleasure for me. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 24 2022 at 14:44
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^ I'm glad you like it! The first thing I associate with hammond is black music. Besides, it doesn't hurt to bring in another genre. A cool topic btw! - Question, will both suggestions be included in the poll? |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 24 2022 at 16:03
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My plan was have everyone choose their favourite only. But if there are very few people participating (meaning lots less songs to choose from) then I can allow two per. BTW, you can keep posting songs until the end of the weekend. Then I'll say PICK YOUR FAVOURITE(S) and those will go in the poll. Sound simple enough?
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 24 2022 at 16:16
Gene Krupa & Ethel Smith------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 24 2022 at 16:58
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Not sure whether the big Barbara Dennerlein fans on this site will come across the thread, anyway with this topic that lady should be featured for sure (music starts after 1 minute of introduction). Barbara Dennerlein & Thilo Wolf: Just Play |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 24 2022 at 17:03
I was holding back.  ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 24 2022 at 17:20
Sure, thanks for clarifying! |
JD wrote:Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 25 2022 at 22:27
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This always comes to mind when I think organ. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 26 2022 at 16:56
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^ The early Disney films were accompanied i.a. by theatre organs. These organs such as the Mighty Wurlitzer had their heyday during the silent film era. In fact that's what they were made for. They were able to replace an entire orchestra. Silent films are still a source of inspiration for musicians today. Only few original recordings are preserved because this music is still being played live. So if you ever get the chance to attend such a screening of a silent film, off to the movies! |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 26 2022 at 18:21
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Here's my 2nd contribution btw. Medeski Martin & Wood: Broken Mirror Album: Radiolarians III (2009). Also featuring on the Fly in a Bottle DVD, portraying the band. MMW, formed in NYC in 1991, are a group that effortlessly straddles the gap between avant-garde improvisation and accessible groove-based jazz (John Medeski kb, Billy Martin dr, Chris Wood bs). Medeski is a genuine keyboard virtuoso. Apart from the acoustic piano he plays a myriad of different key instruments, including all kind of organs.- Besides individual projects of the band members the trio has also collaborated with numerous other musicians incl. John Scofield with whom they have recorded several albums [organ solo starts @ 2:08] |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 27 2022 at 05:28
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Nice! I have a couple albums by MMW and one of the ones with Scofield. Even though on PA as proto-prog, I want to post this Deep Purple performance. Jon Lord takes over from about 3:20 onward foe about 4 and a half minutes. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 27 2022 at 05:32
| The two Tindersticks and the Claus Bantzer are not available to me. I will look for ones that are. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 27 2022 at 14:20
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^ Maybe these do work for Tindersticks (couldn't find an alternative for Bantzer...): Jism: Tea Stain: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 27 2022 at 21:22
| ^yes, these worked. A search for Bantzer didn't turn up anything on YouTube. After listening to the Tindersticks, went back to the cool funk of Cory Henry that Mila posted. Needed something uplifting. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 15:25
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Well, it's been a week already, is everyone ready to pick their favourites for the poll? It doesn't look like there are a lot of choices, even though I tried to keep it simple and easy. Is everyone good with offering up some poll choices? ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 16:37
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I would go for Steve Reich, but I would add Tinderstick's Jism to it if possible... There is of course also this amazing Snarky Puppy thing that might interest some of us (if synths count as organs...): Snarky Puppy - Lingus (solo from 4'20" on...): ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 21:02
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^ Nice! The guy on keys is Cory Henry. I posted a track from his latest solo album above. He left Snarky Puppy in 2018 but has already released several albums under his own name during his time with the band. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 28 2022 at 22:07
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I have only posted two tracks, so I would nominate both if possible: Cory Henry: Holy Ghost https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHtyJLugNUI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHtyJLugNUI Medeski Martin & Wood: Broken Mirror https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbuP-EsWc-E" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbuP-EsWc-E _________________ @JD, I really like your topic and the concept is easily understandable. Maybe the poll title was a bit confusing; it doesn't suggest what the poll is about. But in general, I think that we need to do a bit of promo e.g. by posting the poll titles and links in the team thread. Yesterday someone opened a thread about keybordists in the General Music Discussions section. I posted there some info about our IA-poll including the link. I don't know if we'll get any feedback but I think it's worth trying. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 29 2022 at 03:26
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Unfortunately I can't find any other free source for Claus Bantzer's Samsara II. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 29 2022 at 06:35
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Some thoughts and nonsense... Lorenzo: Yes, indeed a very good Johnny Cash song. I don't hear it often, but it regularly pops up in my head (since I know someone with that name). Didn't know the Charlatans! track, rather straight forward but a good listen. suitkees: What, four organs? But why don't they play together a good song then? And I don't like the lyrics. And what matches with Tindersticks? Is it a dirty song he sings with his mouth full? And stains have to be cleaned. JD: Little Feat bring us a nice uptempo rock 'n roll song, and rolling it does. But the organ solo does not really impress me. Nice track though; it would make me dance if I'd liked dancing... But I must say I am more attracted to the Alan Parker track, with it's nice blues-rocky (and rolling) mood. Nice to see the virtuosity of Ethel Smith (must be bad film though, at the looks of this snippet). Alan Parker takes this one away for me. George: Ah, Chest Fever by The Band is classic indeed. I love this track, and the organ is really cementing this one (if that means something...). Church of the Cosmic Skull sound very very retro, but also very very good. If not very original (making me think of some other famous bands) it is an instant good listen. Moody and... classic! And with the clip, they're not fearing ridicule... (and they shouldn't). Nice to see the Simpsons' take on the Iron Butterfly song. Christian: Claus Bantzer could have been in Nick's Samsara poll from some time back. A very captivating and original organ-voice piece of music. I like this very much. Barbara Dennerlein definitely has her place here. She impresses with her playing but musically/emotionally I'm much less impressed - a bit clichéd big band jazz... I prefer the originality of Bantzer. Mila: Cory Henry: No, not even with this one you can get me to dance...  Very funky track. Back in the heydays of funk I was not at all into it, but nowadays I do appreciate it much more. And Cory Henry's playing on this one is indeed very good. Great track! But Medeski Martin & Wood take this away for me; a nice groovy dreamy cinematic track. Sorry Cory.------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 29 2022 at 06:52
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@Mila: Nice to bring forward the famous Wurlitzer theatre organ. It makes me think of the (also famous) Tuschinski theater in Amsterdam. In the 90s I attended to some silent film screenings there, accompanied on the Wurlitzer organ that was there since the opening of the theatre in 1921. The theatre was renovated in the late 90s/early 2000s and they took the opportunity to restore the Wurlitzer organ (which took quite some time...). It was reinstated in 2011 and it is one of the few Wurlitzer theatre organs still in function outside of the USA. The most impressive screening I attended to was probably Carl Theodor Dreyer's La passion de Jeanne d'Arc. The Wurlitzer made that film an even bigger masterpiece! For your pleasure, here is Superman's theme on Tuschinski's Wurlitzer organ: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 29 2022 at 09:46
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^ Kees, thank you very much for your comments! I'll get back to you a little later. But for now: @Christian & George, you have Bantzer's Samsara II on spotify. Maybe we can post that link next to the playlist link? https://open.spotify.com/album/3nBYjAI7msIyIXT64GDkLu?highlight=spotify:track:2uYeT72tqh41nt0iDTgq1E" rel="nofollow - https://open.spotify.com/album/3nBYjAI7msIyIXT64GDkLu?highlight=spotify:track:2uYeT72tqh41nt0iDTgq1E |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 29 2022 at 11:22
| Thanks Mila. Unfortunately, I only have free Spotify account and can't play individual tracks. I just get a shuffle play based on the Bantzer track. |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: October 29 2022 at 12:54
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Can I still jump in? This theme reminded me of a record I hadn't spun in a while. The organ throughout the track sounds so good  I saw them opening for Blues Pills some years ago and their concert was way more memorable. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 29 2022 at 14:15
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^ Welcome to the party, Sam! You are right on time. Nominations have only just begun.- This is some real nice blues rock that you are bringing! We are not so many this time around, so everyone can nominate two songs, I think. If you like you can suggest a second track. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 29 2022 at 15:37
Sorry, I missed your post.- How come? Me too have just a free account and can listen to everything in full. You have some spotify adverts now and then and that's about it. I have even playlists there that I wanted to suggest for the IA-polls. But of course you have to register first, with your email, via your google or fb account, or whatever. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 29 2022 at 18:13
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My Spotify account wouldn't play Claus Bantzer even though his album was there, don't know why. Of course for me personally that's not a problem, but for the people who can't watch the yt video... |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 29 2022 at 19:17
I researched this and it seems like this has something to do with phone app (what I used) and licensing agreements. I will have to try on my laptop next time I have it open.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 29 2022 at 23:38
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^ I see. I use spotify from my laptop. I also have access to albums of individual artists with my free account. @Christian, but you do have a spotify account, don't you? Try this link. https://open.spotify.com/album/3nBYjAI7msIyIXT64GDkLu" rel="nofollow - https://open.spotify.com/album/3nBYjAI7msIyIXT64GDkLu That's what you get if you use the spotify or google search engine by typing the artist name along with the album title. I don't know whether the URL differs depending on the computer you use, though. But that seems rather unlikely to me. Maybe you should still try and do the search yourself.- Unfortunately most of Bantzer's material is on this topic channel generated by youtube. Otherwise you could at least pick another track. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 30 2022 at 07:21
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Time to put the poll up. Here's what I see so far. Correct me before the end of the day if i got something wrong or if you have changed your mind on something. @jamesbaldwin 1 - Johnny Cash - Danny Boy 2 - Charlatans - Believe You Me @suitkees 1 - Steve Reich - Four Organs 2 - Tindersticks - Jism @JD 1 - Little Feat - Let It Roll 2 - Alan Parker - Heavy Water @mathman0806 1 - The Band - Chest Fever 2 - Church of the Cosmic Skull - Evil in Your Eye @lewian 1 - Claus Bantzer - Samsara II 2 - Barbara Dennerlein & Thilo Wolf - Just Play @Mila-13 1 - Cory Henry: Holy Ghost 2 - Medeski Martin & Wood - Broken Mirror @Meltdowner 1 - Pristine - Damned If I Do 2 - Franz Ferdinand - Love Illumination ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 30 2022 at 11:00
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I also nominate
Barbara Dennerlein & Thilo Wolf: Just Play (it wasn't a joke, I do like this). |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 30 2022 at 11:02
See, I don't have a problem with this anyway, as I have other ways to listen to Bantzer. The only problem was that I couldn't find something that I believe would work also for those for whom the yt video doesn't play.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 30 2022 at 15:26
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^ I've been thinking about spotify as an alternative to youtube, not only for now but also for the future. These youtube geo-retrictions are annoying. George said he would try and check his access to spotify from his laptop. Let's see. |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: October 31 2022 at 08:15
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 31 2022 at 08:48
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^ A cool track and video! But it looks like this guy is playing an oboe, not an organ. :P |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 02 2022 at 13:16
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 03 2022 at 09:34
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Deepest apologies everyone, got tackled by The Covid last weekend so I retreated to the couch for my 5 day isolation period. I'll populate the poll shortly and then we can get the voting under way. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 03 2022 at 09:48
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Have at 'er, let the voting begin. Multiple votes allowed, so I guess pick your (2) two fav's. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 03 2022 at 17:39
I'm glad that you are ok again! Listen, given that there are however two songs per participant, two votes are too little imo. Let it be 3 as usual pls.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 04 2022 at 05:07
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Thanks Mila, I'm doing fine and headed back to work today. But sorry, that violates my first rule...1 - Go lean. I know we don't have a ton of participants, but two votes each gives us 14 votes total which is fine. any more and we may as well not even vote at all or just vote for every track. So let's keep it at (2) votes each please. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 05 2022 at 08:28
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Great pleasure to listen to all the tracks again - a wonderful selection. I heard the Pristine and Franz Ferdinand tracks for the first time. The latter sounds to me a bit too standard indie pop-rock (I have one of their albums, but it never incited me to explore more of their work, curiously...). Pristine on the other hand sound really great. Yes, very retro blues rock, but wonderfully executed, with - indeed - a great Hammond sound, and what a captivating voice! So, on my too long short list would appear Alan Parker's Heavy Water, The Band's Chest Fever, Claus Bantzer's Samsara II, Medeski, Martin & Wood's Broken Mirror and Pristine's Damned If I Do. Only because I cannot vote for Steve Reich and Tindersticks... Still three too many... I'm tempted to go with The Band, despite the fact that it is well known, Claus Bantzer, also because most of you might not be able to listen to it, and Medeski and his friends. If I had three votes. Since I only have two, I'll go with the first two. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 05 2022 at 08:37
THANKS FOR THE POLL! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 05 2022 at 08:40
I love the Farfisa (or oboe?) break... especially for the naked girl!  Anyway, wonderful pop-rock song! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 06 2022 at 06:48
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 06 2022 at 13:38
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 07 2022 at 10:19
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My votes went to: Barbara Dennerlein & Thilo Wolf - Just Play (I'm always impressed by someone playing walking bass on organ) Medeski Martin & Wood - Broken Mirror (Seriously cool song) I would have voted for Claus Bantzer if a third vote was allowed.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 07 2022 at 11:32
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Since the electric organ was very popular in the
rock and blues music of the 60s and 70s, I expected to hear a lot of this musical
style. So, I was even more excited to see what else was to come. The most
outstanding pieces in this sense are obviously the contemporary art music
pieces by Claus Bantzer and Steve Reich. Out of these two artists, Bantzer is more interesting for me since I have not yet had the opportunity to listen to contemporary pipe/church organ music so far. On the other hand I'm quite familiar with so-called minimal music of which Steve Reich is one of the most important exponents. Therefore, my first vote will go to Claus Bantzer’s Samsara II, also because this piece is a pleasure to listen to, whereas Reich - at the peak of his minimalist creative period - impresses rather on a musicological, intellectual level. Jazz, along with rock music, is one of the genres where the electronic organ has also been used quite frequently, and in a similar period of time. I am pleased to get to know the talented Barbara Dennerlein who is the only jazz act (in the narrower sense) in the current line-up. So my second vote will go to Barbara and her composition Just Play, performed together with Tino Wolf. As mentioned before, there are quite a few rock
and blues acts in this edition and each one is great in its own way. Apart from
the big names it was the lesser-known artists that caught my interest, esp. Church
of the Cosmic Skull who succeed particularly well in bringing the retro vibe of
the 70s into the present day. If I had a third vote, it would go to this band. I'm aware that I am breaking the fairness rule by voting for two entries by the same person. I apologise for this but musical diversity is important to me as well. However, the decisive factor was in the end that the focus of the track is on the organ which was the topic of this poll. Btw. I came across this live rendition of Steve Reich’s Four Organs. I think it helps to understand what this piece is all about. __________________________ Thank you very much for hosting, JD. And thank you all for the music. Once again a very enjoyable edition!  |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 07 2022 at 14:15
Well, I'm not complaining.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 07 2022 at 14:59
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^ You now have a playlist, so there is no longer an excuse for not voting . . |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 07 2022 at 17:22
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My votes: 1) Little Feat (very underrated band) 2) the Band ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 08 2022 at 17:33
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I think I have heard the Reich piece before. This is great stuff of course, but I won't vote for it. Neither for Alan Parker, which I like a lot, but instead for the Charlatans and Medeski, Martin, and Wood. Some very enjoyable stuff here once more, thanks for the poll! |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 10 2022 at 00:47
Sam, It was great to have you aboard again! Would you like to host the next poll? I really enjoyed your Road Trip edition! |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 10 2022 at 11:28
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 10 2022 at 14:55
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@Sam/Meltdowner Ok, I see. But maybe you can suggest a poll topic or type of topic that inspires you? |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 10 2022 at 15:48
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Having trouble with board posting so can t gurantee I'll return biut Bob Seger- Ramblin Gamblin Man ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 10 2022 at 17:15
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^ Hey Doug, long time no see! I hope you're ok? Thank you for the music, great track! Unfortunately this poll is now closed but the next one is round the corner. So keep an eye on the topic list in the general music discussions section. If you're having trouble posting video links, no problem, just post the artist name and song title and we will find the video for you. |
Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: November 10 2022 at 20:03
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Hi all, hope you have all been well. I will be back on PA a few times a week and would be delighted to participate again in these dear Interactive Polls. ------------- I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 11 2022 at 16:02
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^ Hey Malcom, welcombe back! Lorenzo is going to start the next poll tomorrow. Hope to see you there! |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 11 2022 at 17:25
Glad to see you. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 07:50
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To all: I have opened the new Interactive poll! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 11:22
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I finally got on my laptop to listen to Claus Bantzer and my laptop app does allow for selected listening. But, same issue as with YouTube, the track cannot be played in the U.S. due to a permissions issue. So, I am voting from listening to 13 tracks. My votes go to MMW and Pristine.
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