Prog's Most Influential Artists of the 1960s
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Topic: Prog's Most Influential Artists of the 1960s
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Subject: Prog's Most Influential Artists of the 1960s
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 06:48
Let's try to consider, if you will, which of these artists' discography from this decade only contributed the most to the formation and development of progressive rock as a movement.
I know it's difficult but, if the world had ended on January 1, 1970, which of these bands do you think would be considered the most influential to Prog World?
P.S. Sorry I left off artists like Bob Dylan, Dave Brubeck, Don Ellis, The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Incredible String Band, Blue Cheer, Jethro Tull, Pharoah Sanders, Terje Rypdal, Herbie Mann, Larry Coryell, and Santana but a poll-maker's gotta do what a poll-maker does!
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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 06:51
Pink Floyd, thanks to Interstellar Overdrive, A Saucerful Of Secrets, Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun, and the entire Ummagumma album
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 06:58
I'm tempted to go for The Mothers of Invention/Frank Zappa. I don't think any other artist/band can match the influence of:
Freak Out!, Absolutely Free, We're Only In It For The Money, Uncle Meat and Hot Rats (+ Lumpy Gravy, to an extent) combined.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 07:00
Stool Man wrote:
Pink Floyd, thanks to Interstellar Overdrive, A Saucerful Of Secrets, Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun, and the entire Ummagumma album | If anyone could have matched Zappa/Mothers, it would have to be Floyd
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 07:06
my fav prog bands point to the Beatles as major influences so I voted them
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 07:22
The Moody Blues with the very first Symphonic Prog album: Days of Future Passed (1967)
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 07:29
Beatles > Zappa & Floyd
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Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 08:05
Beatles and The Beach Boys (specifically Brian Wilson) who pushed each other to constantly innovate and push the envelope.
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 09:04
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Beatles > Zappa & Floyd |
Ditto
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Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 09:06
The Beatles.
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 09:50
Only one band in the poll encompassed the majority of prog genres known today: The BEATLES.
Others from the list are notable for conceptualizing/developing only one or few prog genres.
Notwithstanding that most of the artists in the poll were only partially prog i.e. proto-prog in the 60's.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 10:34
Interesting... I guess the band/artist that most influenced prog in general would be The Beatles, anyway. When it comes to influence on more specific sub-genres, and/or more personal preferences, it might be The Soft Machine, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Sun Ra, Frank Zappa... I prefer all these over the Beatles, but I'll vote Beatles.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 11:48
UK: King Crimson
USA: Jimi Hendrix
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 13:10
I would say The Beatles initiated it, The Moody Blues and Jimi Hendrix made it move forward, and King Crimson stablished progressive music as a real force in rock history.
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 13:22
I have to give it to The Beatles . . .
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 15:11
So The Beatles are so far voted as "The Best Prog Band of the 1960s"? 
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 15:30
Timestamped 01.01.1970, Pink Floyd had released some albums that can be properly called prog. The Beatles were influential indeed, but their influence on prog was not grown to full extent. King Crimson's seminal debut was released only 83 days before.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 15:45
Uhh... the Nice.
from the list, Procol Harum
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 15:47
Where's The Nice ???
Plus...King Crimson was released in mid October of 1969, so it almost didn't make it ! Now, 1967's the Thoughts Of Emerlist Davjak by The Nice contains the track Rondo which is practically an anthem for the prog. Add tothat the fact that Emerson quickly recruited Lake and Palmer to form the ultimate prog band at the time and you have your answer.
So I ask again... Where's The Nice ?
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 16:00
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 16:03
Well isn't Ravi Shankar the best prog band of all time? 
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 16:44
The Moody Blues without question. Four albums that were very proggy:
Days of Future Past (1967) In Search of the Lost Chord (1968) On the Threshold of a Dream (1969) To Our Children's Children's Children (1969)
Concept albums, synthesis of rock and symphony orchestra, first use of the Moog/Chamberlin/EMS VC3, prog suites (Are You Sitting Comfortably/The Dream/Have You Heard/The Voyage/Have You Heard (Reprise)
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Posted By: Progfan1958
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 20:48
The Beatles ( with George Martin ) more or less broke so many "rules" that I'd say they invented Prog by showing everyone else that anything was possible.
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 22:01
Manuel wrote:
I would say The Beatles initiated it, The Moody Blues and Jimi Hendrix made it move forward, and King Crimson stablished progressive music as a real force in rock history. |
I like this answer!
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 22:03
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Well isn't Ravi Shankar the best prog band of all time? 
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Do I detect sarcasm? I included him because he and Ali Akbar Khan had such a major "life changing" effect on so many budding, evolving artists in the 50s and 60s.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: January 04 2023 at 00:32
King Crimson, Procol Harum, Zappa, etc
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: January 04 2023 at 03:35
Most influential: Beatles Most interesting: Pink Floyd
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 04 2023 at 05:01
Procol Harum.
They not only created the most beautiful classical/rock/psyche song ever but released a full length epic in 1968.
of course The Nice is a glaring omission from the list. Even Hendrix was interested in what they were doing!
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 04 2023 at 09:25
Topic: The Best Prog Band of the 1960s
Pink Floyd
BrufordFreak wrote:
Let's try to consider, if you will, which of these artists' discography from this decade only contributed the most to the formation and development of progressive rock as a movement.
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Moody Blues, Procol Harum, Nice or Pink Floyd
BrufordFreak wrote:
I know it's difficult but, if the world had ended on January 1, 1970, which of these bands do you think would be considered the most influential to Prog World?
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Pink Floyd
voted for Moody Blues
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: January 04 2023 at 11:19
Atavachron wrote:
Uhh... the Nice.
from the list, Procol Harum
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Probably this
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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: January 05 2023 at 12:36
Beatles without any hesitation
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 05 2023 at 12:54
verslibre wrote:
UK: King Crimson
USA: Jimi Hendrix |
There were many things before KC in the 60's that could be considered important ... and probably deserve the mention. One of them would be THE SMALL FACES, whose hit "Itchycoo Park" I think was like February 1968, and possibly before.
In America, I really think that Miles Davis deserves some more credit, mostly because of his ... just play attitude, that had no rhyme of reason, and his free form is something that you can find (eventually) in many folks, like Steve Howe, though I doubt he would even consider that thought, and others that extended the guitar playing beyond what we consider solos.
Frank Zappa, definitely, as one of the giants, not only in America, but also all of Europe. Many groups loved FZ and mentioned, and this went so far as FAUST, AD2, SUPERSISTER (a wee bit later) and many others. A lot of European bands had no issues with the extended guitar material not being a "song" and this is quite visible in the incredible forays by Richard Pinhas with Heldon, and many folks compare him to Robert Fripp, though I think that RP is less compromising when it came to letting go ... he just ripped our ears apart.
I think, to help make this bunch of names listed here, it would be better to place them in order by some of their releases, so one can see how soon they appear, and how soon, folks appreciate it to the point of trying to do it themselves.
As time goes by, the better KNOWN of the "progressive" choices seems to take the front page, but, I find it really hard to believe that the complete insanity and letting go by Janis Joplin, and the incredible stuff that THE DOORS did was not a factor in everyone's influence. All of a sudden, everyone wants to try what those folks do, and almost no women could even come close to Janis, and it was a blessing in disguise when Joni Mitchell and Judy Collins re-wrote the book, although I would suggest that both Joni and Judy did not have the emotional strength that Janis lived and died for.
It's a really tough question to discuss, and a more thorough listing in order of appearance might be valuable ... heck, we should even mention "Winchester Cathedral" but I am not sure that too many folks here know it as well.
Interesting choices, but I would hate to select merely a "favorite" here ... the history of it all is better than one person, and they all deserve a mention!
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: January 05 2023 at 13:21
moshkito wrote:
verslibre wrote:
UK: King Crimson
USA: Jimi Hendrix |
There were many things before KC in the 60's that could be considered important ... and probably deserve the mention. One of them would be THE SMALL FACES, whose hit "Itchycoo Park" I think was like February 1968, and possibly before. |
This isn't about "earliest," but "most influential." That's just my take.
The Small Faces are not more influential than King Crimson.
moshkito wrote:
In America, I really think that Miles Davis deserves some more credit, mostly because of his ... just play attitude, that had no rhyme of reason, and his free form is something that you can find (eventually) in many folks, like Steve Howe, though I doubt he would even consider that thought, and others that extended the guitar playing beyond what we consider solos. |
Miles Davis gets plenty of credit, but rock has more listeners. (And I love fusion.) In a Silent Way and Bitches' Brew are where all the '70s heavies were initiated into "the rite": Hancock, Corea, Zawinul, Shorter, Williams, and so on.
moshkito wrote:
Frank Zappa, definitely, as one of the giants, not only in America, but also all of Europe. Many groups loved FZ and mentioned, and this went so far as FAUST, AD2, SUPERSISTER (a wee bit later) and many others. A lot of European bands had no issues with the extended guitar material not being a "song" and this is quite visible in the incredible forays by Richard Pinhas with Heldon, and many folks compare him to Robert Fripp, though I think that RP is less compromising when it came to letting go ... he just ripped our ears apart. |
You know which band has had a global influence? Tangerine Dream. But their first album dropped in 1970, so they're not in the poll.
moshkito wrote:
I think, to help make this bunch of names listed here, it would be better to place them in order by some of their releases, so one can see how soon they appear, and how soon, folks appreciate it to the point of trying to do it themselves. |
Tell the guy who made the poll. 
moshkito wrote:
As time goes by, the better KNOWN of the "progressive" choices seems to take the front page |
Again, "most influential," not "my favorite."
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Posted By: Argentinfonico
Date Posted: January 05 2023 at 16:36
With all due respect to the other groups, is it necessary to answer? 
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 05 2023 at 16:43
BrufordFreak wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Well isn't Ravi Shankar the best prog band of all time? 
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Do I detect sarcasm? I included him because he and Ali Akbar Khan had such a major "life changing" effect on so many budding, evolving artists in the 50s and 60s.
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Sarcasm indeed! I have a PHD in smart ass :D
Some of your choices are questionable though 
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: January 05 2023 at 18:04
I have more music that has clearly been influenced by Pink Floyd or King Crimson than any other. The Beatles paved the way in 1967/68 showing there are are no rules any more which is what Prog is all about but as far as Prog bands being influencial those are my two picks. Tons of Psychedelic and Krautrock bands have been influenced by Floyd and I always remember exploring Chile and other South American countries for Prog and surprised at how many sounded like King Crimson who influenced Math Rock as well. Just my take with the Prog music I tend to listen to most. Wouldn't you say Moody Blues and KC's debut inspired Symphonic bands the most? I'm probably breaking this down too much instead of looking at the whole.
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Posted By: rik wilson
Date Posted: January 06 2023 at 14:48
King Crimson showed a direction few bands were willing to go. All these bands had great influence, new ideas, new approaches. The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Jimi Hendrix, Procol Harum , and The Move and The Mothers influenced my listening pleasure .
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