Massimo Pieretti for Crossover
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Topic: Massimo Pieretti for Crossover
Posted By: lazland
Subject: Massimo Pieretti for Crossover
Date Posted: June 08 2023 at 14:17
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New suggestion for Italian artist, Massimo Pieretti. You can hear his debut album, A New Beginning, at his Bandcamp page https://massimopieretti.bandcamp.com/album/a-new-beginning You can also see my review at https://lazland.org/album-reviews-2023/massimo-pieretti-a-new-beginning As a bio, this provided by Massimo: A new beginning is my first solo album and was born in a very delicate period
of my life and that of all of us human beings, the pandemic caused by the Covid
19 virus. It comes at the end of a long course of study, listening and observation of the
social themes most dear to me, but above all from the need to shout out to the
world my idea of music and more.
It is a largely autobiographical concept album consisting of 15 tracks through
which I tried to express my point of view on today's society by taking a cue
from my personal problems and my life experiences. It is a record of which I have taken care of all aspects related to the production
at 360 degrees, starting from the composition of the music to the creation of the
basic tracks, to the drafting of the texts (in tandem with my right arm Gianluca
del Torto), from the choice and coordination of the numerous collaborators
(about 30 including musicians, singers, sound engineers and illustration artists)
to the final mix in concert with Francesco Mattei at Underworld studio. Massimo has previously collaborated with From 2021 Keyboards
Noage - Original band in the Gothic metal field 2020 / 2022 Piano and Keyboard
Orphinskij - Original band in the Fusion field 2018 / 2020 Piano
The Harvest Band - Neil Young tribute band
https://www.facebook.com/theharvestbandrome 2016 / 2017 Piano, guitar and arranger
IntramontaNapoli 1 e 2 -Theatre Project 2015 / 2022 Piano and keyboards
Gianna Love band - Gianna Nannini tribute band
https://www.facebook.com/Gianna-Love-Band-286310184752056/
dal 2014 Keyboards
Shaman's Soldiers - The Doors tribute band
http://www.shamansoldiers.it/index.html Why I think Massimo Pieretti belongs on Prog Archives. The debut album is cinematic in its scope and is redolent in its influence of Tony Banks. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: June 08 2023 at 15:41
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I wanted to suggest Massimo. Thanks for suggesting him. The moderators won't let me suggest new bands. I wanted to suggest another Italian band- Klidas. Mellow VDGG meets KC. The last band the Moderators let me suggest was Caligonaut.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 09 2023 at 01:50
ok, noted 
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Posted By: Massimo Max Salari
Date Posted: July 10 2023 at 04:51
| Ciao a tutti. Massimo è un ottimo autore e musicista. Qui nel mio blog NONSOLO PROGROCK la mia recensione: https://nonsoloprogrock.blogspot.com/2022/12/massimo-pieretti.html |
Posted By: jacobaeus
Date Posted: July 10 2023 at 06:31
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Hi everyone. I reviewed Massimo's album for the Arlequins website (in Italian): http://www.arlequins.it/pagine/articoli/alfa/corpo.asp?ch=7502 I do believe he deserves to be included in PA. |
Posted By: Fenland Progger
Date Posted: July 10 2023 at 06:32
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Massimo's album 'A New Beginning' is a tremendous album, which has been featured on a number of shows on Progzilla Radio. I highly recommend you check it out for yourselves.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: July 10 2023 at 07:15
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To all who have posted in this thread, as OP I have sent a reminder to the team for this suggestion. Massimo’s album is a special one and it would be a disappointment if it were not added. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: g3p
Date Posted: July 11 2023 at 07:53
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My review of Massimo Pieretti –A New Beginning (2022)
https://houseofprog.com/blog/2023/05/25/massimo-pieretti-a-new-beginning-2022/?fbclid=IwAR1p1pkrRYUvn6I3ehXlH1AWp5rSc_pM2IDayia2bZi8gdPxvWYx-kY5InI" rel="nofollow - https://houseofprog.com/blog/2023/05/25/massimo-pieretti-a-new-beginning-2022/ |
Posted By: Boceephus
Date Posted: July 11 2023 at 15:17
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Great Album. Plenty of PROG elements and excellent guests: including Ray Weston (echolyn). Please add Massimo Pieretti's A New Beginning.
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: July 11 2023 at 16:54
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I concur and i have a review ready to post as well.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: July 26 2023 at 01:21
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: July 26 2023 at 02:32
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The latest on this saga is that there are two votes in favour, and one against. The suggestion is awaiting the verdict of Scott (Evolver). The problem there is I do not think he is particularly active at the moment. This sorry tale has convinced me more than ever that the addition policy on this site is in dire need of a thorough overhaul. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: July 26 2023 at 08:04
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Not even a move to another genre within PA ? Very odd . ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 26 2023 at 08:18
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What potential genre other than Crossover would you see it in? From what I heard it would be a Crossover or bust proposition. It did not strike me as a strong case as a progressive rock project from my perhaps too limited listening (I did not play the full album). That's by the by, as I have no say in it. By the way, I went to rateyourmusic and noticed that there are no genre labels for the project, might want to try to get that rectified (after all, that is a much bigger and more significant site than this one). https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/massimo-pieretti" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/massimo-pieretti ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: massimo_pieretti
Date Posted: July 27 2023 at 13:57
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Good evening Logan, if you want you can listen my entire album A new beginning here on Bandcamp: https://massimopieretti.bandcamp.com/album/a-new-beginning" rel="nofollow - A new beginning | Massimo Pieretti (bandcamp.com) It is an autobiographical concept album that feature nearly 30 artist from around the world including Ray Weston, Kate Nord, Germana Noage and is my first attempt to express myself through music as solo artist. Thank you for your time Massimo Pieretti
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 27 2023 at 14:49
thank you
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massimo_pieretti wrote:Posted By: massimo_pieretti
Date Posted: July 28 2023 at 11:48
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You are welcome!
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: July 29 2023 at 06:15
Forza, Massimo!  ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 29 2023 at 20:28
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Thanks Mr. Pieretti. That bandcamp page is where I listened to the music before but I just did not have the opportunity to give it a proper listen at the time. I will at some time for my own interest. I was rushing bit to answer tszirmay despite not being on the team or being the voter (I often hope to catch people while still online) and had to rush out. What I meant was that it didn't quickly strike me as music that is obviously, no-brainer, Prog. Often for that I look to the epic length tracks, and this is different. Swans for instance often is not called Prog but they have very long tracks, and it's hardly the only measure (bands like Gentle Giant tend to have shorter tracks). Maybe if I were familiar with Tony Banks solo work (he is in Crossover) then I would have heard the relations more -- so much comes down to our associations, and that's a reason why often there is disagreement. As a concept album, I know that such things should be listened to in full and judged in full. Mostly I was interested to know where this might be considered to better fit than Crossover if not having a move vote seems odd. As mentioned, two people on Crossover voted thinking that is the best category, and a move vote commonly means you think it right for PA but better for another category (unsure is another, and sometimes people abstain). Crossover seems a much better place than Eclectic, RPI or Symph, Or Neo-Prog to my listening, not Zeuhl, RIO/Avant, Canterbury, Krautrock (those are the categories I know best) and Prog Related is a different ballgame with lots of different requirements (not just about the music, but influence, Prog personnel relations, and various criteria to consider). By the way, perhaps most of my favourite modern music is not in PA but could loosely fall into the Crossover Prog family. And it is unfortunate that things stall when people go on hiatus/ are inactive for extended periods, and I had brought that up officially. Often it doesn't matter if things take longer -- this project is going on a year old -- but of course some are aching to write reviews. And I know that if I'm planning to add a band/artist, if it takes months to approve, then I have lost the passion commonly to do the work, and to me that is work, of addition. For an artist, of course, I'm sure it can be very satisfying to see oneself included and one does not like to be on tenterhooks biting ones nails for months (okay, hyperbole perhaps, and depends on the artist). By the way, I still do think it would be beneficial to try to add some tags and maybe review at rateyourmusic in the meantime. And if somebody like Anthony Fantano discovers and likes it (just as an example as a name that I know), that's gold.... ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: July 30 2023 at 02:43
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^ Greg, I am sure that Massimo will appreciate your explanation. I do think that where you as admins have an inactive team member, Evolver in this case, then you change the rules to perhaps either take a majority of the active members (it is 2-1 yes), or simply add somebody to the team? You have stated yourself that band addition suggestions are on the wane. It is hardly surprising, really. The key here is that we have an extremely passionate artist who believes that his music should fit on PA and he wants people reviewing his music here. In Thomas, we have an SC who wants to review his music. Why not make him an honorary, temporary, member of the team for the purposes of this addition? Just a couple of thoughts. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: massimo_pieretti
Date Posted: July 30 2023 at 03:26
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Good morning to all of you and thank you for your kind consideration. I realize that mine is not an easy album to "categorize" and place in a well-defined genre also because the thing is intentional and of which I am very proud of. I am at your complete disposal for further clarification. Good morning Massimo Pieretti
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: August 02 2023 at 09:11
I just listened to Klidas the other day. I'll bring this group to the attention of the RPI team. Thanks. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: August 02 2023 at 12:07
This is welcome, but I have, in fact, alerted the RPI team to Massimo's work. The problem we have here is that the suggestion is stuck in Crossover, for two reasons, namely Keishiro no vote, and the fact that Evolver does not appear to be active. The sensible solution, IMHO, is to move this suggestion to RPI for them to decide. This entire episode does NOT reflect well on PA  EDIT - sorry, you were talking about Klidas - never mind, my comments still hold relevance!
------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: August 02 2023 at 15:59
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^I recommend contacting the admins. I do not have the authority nor am I in a position to address your grievances. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: August 25 2023 at 07:25
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We are still waiting for one member to cast a vote. Please be patient. This is an all-volunteer site and some members have been busy with life and work outside of this site. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 29 2023 at 02:00
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Posted By: Skymachine_119
Date Posted: August 29 2023 at 12:19
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: August 29 2023 at 14:47
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: August 29 2023 at 14:50
Oh, Oh, Massimo, un romano su progarchives! Congratulations! Vedrò di ascoltarti... By the way,  ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 25 2023 at 23:58
Just to continue this Italian joke... ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |