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Topic: What is Rush's Worst Album Poll?
Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Subject: What is Rush's Worst Album Poll?
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 11:21
Here's a Poll to compliment this thread  http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=132584" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=132584

So what's your biggest stinker from Canadian band Rush.


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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 11:38
No vote ;-)

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 14:12
Where is None of The Above?


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 14:23
None of them are bad. 


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 14:43
Quote What is Rush's Worst Album Poll


I'll have to go with https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=132590" rel="nofollow - THIS one .

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

As for Rush's worst album, I will give it to Counterparts. Even if none of them are bad, that's subjective, I feel that some are better than others and therefore some are worse than others.

If other were an option for worst album (rather than worst album poll), I'd quite like to vote for Rush to the Can (the Rush/Can collaboration that never was).


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 14:48
I don't think Rush had any stinkers.

Why can't y'all look at the PA ratings to see their lowest rated album?


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 14:49
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


As for Rush's worst album, I will give it to Counterparts. Even if none of them are bad, that's subjective, I feel that some are better than others and therefore some are worse than others.

It is subjective, no question about that, and when I said that, I meant I don't want to choose in this context. None sticks out as bad stinker. EmbarrassedSmile
 




Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 14:56
VT

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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 14:59
Vapor Trails. Gastric zephyrs in the sky.

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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 15:00
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

As for Rush's worst album, I will give it to Counterparts.

Blimey Greg, it's better than anything released after Power Windows, with the possible exception of Clockwork Angels...


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 15:07
I won't cast a vote, though there are three albums by Rush I hardly ever reach for:

Rush (when they were LZ wannabes)
Roll the Bones (lightweight production, and some real duds on Side 2)
Snakes & Arrows (more duds, saved by some great instrumentals, and "Far Cry")

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 15:09
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


As for Rush's worst album, I will give it to Counterparts. Even if none of them are bad, that's subjective, I feel that some are better than others and therefore some are worse than others.

It is subjective, no question about that, and when I said that, I meant I don't want to choose in this context. None sticks out as bad stinker. EmbarrassedSmile


Some have argued that there is no true better, worse, best, worst when it comes to such things. To me if it seems the intent was achieved, then I tend to see something as successful even if I don't appreciate the results or the intent.

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

As for Rush's worst album, I will give it to Counterparts.


Blimey Greg, it's better than anything released after Power Windows, with the possible exception of Clockwork Angels...


I got confused and meant to say Test for Echo, as I was more focused on another aspect of my post. In the other topic, I brought up Test for Echo and Vapor Trails. Oh, I do get confused and forgetful these days. Roll the Bones is the weakest one for me that I have heard quite a few times. The first is immature, but I kind of enjoy that about it. It's not very good, but it's fun.



Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 15:11
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

I won't cast a vote, though there are three albums by Rush I hardly ever reach for:

Rush (when they were LZ wannabes)
Roll the Bones (lightweight production, and some real duds on Side 2)
Snakes & Arrows (more duds, saved by some great instrumentals, and "Far Cry")

I agree with you about S&A but not so much the RtB and the debut. What do you consider to be a dud on RtB? Neurotica? Big Wheel? Ghost of a Chance? I'm not sure why but I really like RtB. As for the first one I like that one too! It was beforre they really dipped their feet in prog but I've always felt it was a bit unfair to write it off as a mere Zeppelin clone album although that influence is certainly on there. 


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 16:15
Roll the Bones (with three uncertainties).

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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: February 15 2024 at 17:29
Quote So what's your biggest stinker from Canadian band Rush.

Geddy Lee's steaming turd.

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Posted By: Hector Enrique
Date Posted: February 16 2024 at 02:46
1. Vapor Trails
2. Test for Echo

Both albums do not add much to the band's discography.


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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: February 16 2024 at 03:37
As soon as Ayn Rand appeared, I was out the door (and I wasn't the only one...)


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: February 16 2024 at 05:55
Probably Roll The Bones, but anything after Presto doesn't appeal t my taste. 


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 16 2024 at 11:33
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

I won't cast a vote, though there are three albums by Rush I hardly ever reach for:

Rush (when they were LZ wannabes)
Roll the Bones (lightweight production, and some real duds on Side 2)
Snakes & Arrows (more duds, saved by some great instrumentals, and "Far Cry")


I agree with you about S&A but not so much the RtB and the debut. What do you consider to be a dud on RtB? Neurotica? Big Wheel? Ghost of a Chance? I'm not sure why but I really like RtB. As for the first one I like that one too! It was beforre they really dipped their feet in prog but I've always felt it was a bit unfair to write it off as a mere Zeppelin clone album although that influence is certainly on there. 


Right, "Neurotica" and "You Bet Your Life" are the worst offenders.

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Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: February 16 2024 at 11:35
Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

As soon as Ayn Rand appeared, I was out the door (and I wasn't the only one...)


So, starting with 2112, the album that saved Rush and has gone 3x Platinum. You along with others may have been out the door, but there were far, far more coming in the door.


Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: February 16 2024 at 12:36
Hold Your Fire Smile


Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: February 16 2024 at 13:28
Absolutely stunned that both Caress of Steel and Power Windows have received votes for "worst Rush album"! They're both in my "Top 5 BEST Rush albums".


Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: February 16 2024 at 14:57
Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Absolutely stunned that both Caress of Steel and Power Windows have received votes for "worst Rush album"! They're both in my "Top 5 BEST Rush albums".

Agreed. Those two are among my favorites. 


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 16 2024 at 15:03
Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Absolutely stunned that both Caress of Steel and Power Windows have received votes for "worst Rush album"! They're both in my "Top 5 BEST Rush albums".

Love Power Windows, surprised someone voted or it. 

Caress of Steel is a great album. I don't know what's going on here. Confused


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 16 2024 at 17:10
I don't get that, either. Power Windows is stupendous.

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Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: February 16 2024 at 17:41
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

I don't get that, either. Power Windows is stupendous.


Power Windows is quite good. It's with the next album, Hold Your Fire, where a significant glitch in the matrix appeared.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 17 2024 at 01:09
Power Windows does get a bit 'ploddy' in places although Manhattan Project is amazing. Roll The Bones was the album that got me interested in Rush again but people are really beating on that one! 4 votes for Vapor Trails is maybe the surprise for me (that's in my Rush Top 5) but is that taking account of the supposedly pour mixing of the original release or just that the songs aren't so good? I voted Presto anyway, an album that does nothing and says nothing and screams 'we need a rest'!



Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: February 17 2024 at 02:17
Same, I also love a lot Counterparts and Vapor Trails (their rawest album), surprised to see votes for them.(function(){var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'856cedb6cbbb03e2',t:'MTcwODE2MTM1NS42NjcwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: none; visibility: ;">


Posted By: Snikle
Date Posted: February 17 2024 at 17:18
Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:

Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

As soon as Ayn Rand appeared, I was out the door (and I wasn't the only one...)


So, starting with 2112, the album that saved Rush and has gone 3x Platinum. You along with others may have been out the door, but there were far, far more coming in the door.

It would more likely be Fly By Night with "Anthem," would it not? Of course, Neil Peart luckily outgrew the Ayn Rand stuff after a few years.


Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: February 18 2024 at 01:20
Originally posted by Snikle Snikle wrote:

Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:

Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

As soon as Ayn Rand appeared, I was out the door (and I wasn't the only one...)


So, starting with 2112, the album that saved Rush and has gone 3x Platinum. You along with others may have been out the door, but there were far, far more coming in the door.


It would more likely be Fly By Night with "Anthem," would it not? Of course, Neil Peart luckily outgrew the Ayn Rand stuff after a few years.


I forgot about Anthem. So after the debut album then. Rand never bothered me. It seems that she gets many on the Left in a bit of a hissy, as well as some in religious quarters. I do understand where she is coming from ( That is not to say I agree with everything about her philosophy). After all she was born in Russia and moved to the US in 1926 when she was a young woman. She was aware of the results of Marxism and the tyranny of Lenin and Stalin. Soviet Collectivization and the Purges led to 10s of millions of deaths.

I'm sure the Great Leap Forward in China that started in the late 50s probably confirmed her views in her mind. Estimates are anywhere from 20-55 million Chinese died in a 4 year period. Of course you have the Cultural Revolution that starts in 1966 and proceeds to wipe out several more million.

Rand is certainly a product of her time and the events that took place in Russia and elsewhere had a big influence on her. She had very strong views, which to many left little room for debate. Some of her political views especially on abortion (supports) and homosexuality (thought it was immoral, but advocated repealing laws concerning it) invited controversy. She is a big believer in individual rights. She has influenced Libertarians, especially those on the right.

Anyway, it's about the music. Neil, Geddy and Alex, by all accounts are decent people.


Posted By: Euclid
Date Posted: February 18 2024 at 07:20
Snakes and Arrows


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: February 18 2024 at 07:32
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Quote What is Rush's Worst Album Poll
worst album (rather than worst album poll)
 
The poll title reminds me of the Large Hadron Collider. Is this a hadron collider that is large, or a collider of large hadrons?
 



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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 18 2024 at 17:18
Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:

Originally posted by Snikle Snikle wrote:

Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:

Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

As soon as Ayn Rand appeared, I was out the door (and I wasn't the only one...)


So, starting with 2112, the album that saved Rush and has gone 3x Platinum. You along with others may have been out the door, but there were far, far more coming in the door.


It would more likely be Fly By Night with "Anthem," would it not? Of course, Neil Peart luckily outgrew the Ayn Rand stuff after a few years.


I forgot about Anthem. So after the debut album then. Rand never bothered me. It seems that she gets many on the Left in a bit of a hissy, as well as some in religious quarters. I do understand where she is coming from ( That is not to say I agree with everything about her philosophy). After all she was born in Russia and moved to the US in 1926 when she was a young woman. She was aware of the results of Marxism and the tyranny of Lenin and Stalin. Soviet Collectivization and the Purges led to 10s of millions of deaths.

I'm sure the Great Leap Forward in China that started in the late 50s probably confirmed her views in her mind. Estimates are anywhere from 20-55 million Chinese died in a 4 year period. Of course you have the Cultural Revolution that starts in 1966 and proceeds to wipe out several more million.

Rand is certainly a product of her time and the events that took place in Russia and elsewhere had a big influence on her. She had very strong views, which to many left little room for debate. Some of her political views especially on abortion (supports) and homosexuality (thought it was immoral, but advocated repealing laws concerning it) invited controversy. She is a big believer in individual rights. She has influenced Libertarians, especially those on the right.

Anyway, it's about the music. Neil, Geddy and Alex, by all accounts are decent people.

Rush definitely appealed to right wing thinkers. In those days I veered strongly towards the idea that freedom could be found in right of centre thinking while I felt that left wing ideology was about control and taking away personal liberty under the guise of the 'common good'. Rush's aloofness has always appealed to me. The lyrics are a commentary on life as much as anything. They were also fully paid up geeks who attracted totally harmless fans as far as I can tell. I don't think I've heard any stories of mass gun shootings inspired by someone who heard 2112 or those Rush shows where things got out of hand and everyone piled in. Ultimately you had to be reasonably intelligent and able to dissiminate what you are being presented with.We have a band's lyrics that are actually trying to make sense of the ever worrying trends in modern society allbeit from a right wing(ish) perspective.


Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: February 19 2024 at 00:04
^Neil Peart has stated in interviews that he was interested in Rand's writings for a time, but was not very much aware of the political machinations that she helped influence. He had stated that he sort of outgrew her influence overall, despite still thinking her work is thought-provoking (which, I don't think anyone would seriously argue that it isn't, regardless of whether or not they agree with her fully).


Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: February 21 2024 at 19:09
None of them are truly bad, but there are a few contenders for worst album: their first is more typical hard rock than progressive, Caress of Steel shows great aspirations that do not always pan out, Roll the Bones is considered to straightforward but I enjoy it. My vote went to Counterparts. Every song on that album by itself is very good, but they all sound much the same and after only a few tunes the repitition sets in. Ying Yang



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