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Topic: Ultimate YES: 11th AlbumPosted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Ultimate YES: 11th Album
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 01:21
1998: Jon Anderson - The More You Know - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kSd2LOLxMCmtXg5Mn3y8EZq623tAdqad4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kSd2LOLxMCmtXg5Mn3y8EZq623tAdqad4
1994: Patrick Moraz - Windows of Time - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k7PXjduI9tD4kS2bvtDNrsHojYrEsCOnI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k7PXjduI9tD4kS2bvtDNrsHojYrEsCOnI
1982: Rick Wakeman - Rock 'n' Roll Prophet - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lufpi2OwFqSUvl2Czroe9Ia" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lufpi2OwFqSUvl2Czroe9Ia
Replies: Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 01:24
I only have heard Yes' 90125, and that was decades ago. It did not leave a very positive impression on me at the time.
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 01:40
Logan wrote:
I only have heard Yes' 90125, and that was decades ago. It did not leave a very positive impression on me at the time.
90125 was the first YES album I ever bought and it still remains one of my favourites. The classic 1970's YES era completely passed me by during my teenage years.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 01:49
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 03:46
Yes - 90125
Jon Anderson - The More You Know
Steve Howe - Quantum Guitar
Rick Wakeman - Rock 'N' Roll Prophet
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 03:54
Bruford Levin Upper Extremities. I like talking to sliding boards.
------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 04:03
1. YES - 90125
2. Steve Howe - Quantum Guitar
3. Jon Anderson - The More You Know
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 04:35
Steve Howe, followed by Yes.
------------- Welcome to the middle of the film.
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 04:56
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Logan wrote:
I only have heard Yes' 90125, and that was decades ago. It did not leave a very positive impression on me at the time.
90125 was the first YES album I ever bought and it still remains one of my favourites. The classic 1970's YES era completely passed me by during my teenage years.
It still remains one of my favorites also. Great album.
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 05:40
None of this albums is on the top of my list. I finally decided to vote for Patrick Moraz.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 10:23
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 10:37
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Logan wrote:
I only have heard Yes' 90125, and that was decades ago. It did not leave a very positive impression on me at the time.
90125 was the first YES album I ever bought and it still remains one of my favourites. The classic 1970's YES era completely passed me by during my teenage years.
I have shared this before. The album that most got me from Yes as a teenager (this was in the lase 80s while in high school) was Fragile. A friend introduced it to me and I immediately adored it. A couple of years later I was staying over with someone and 90125 was in the collection and I put that on. That was a very memorable night, but not for the music, or at least not for that music. I did know "Owner of Lonely Heart" well already for the radio edit and music video. generally speaking with Yes, I loved Fragile so much back then that anytime I heard other Yes I just wanted to change it to Fragile. I can be obsessive.
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 10:49
^ Well, that was different, although I've heard worse.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 10:53
^ I believe in the biz they call that an alternative take. With shreds, bad is good, but some shreds are brilliantly bad in their ways. I have heard/seen much better shreds.
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 10:56
Logan wrote:
^ I believe in the biz they call that an alternative take. With shreds, bad is good, but some shreds are brilliantly bad in their ways. I have heard/seen much better shreds.
It may not be the greatest alternative take, but it made me smile anyway. That's the main thing.
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 13:43
Quantum Guitar is one of Steve Howe's very best solo albums, but NOTHING compares to 90125!
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 13:52
Steve Wyzard wrote:
Quantum Guitar is one of Steve Howe's very best solo albums, but NOTHING compares to 90125!
Not a very apt comparison to be sure, but...
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 16:08
Brufird/Levin !
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 17:35
Logan, I had no idea you were around my age or actually probably about four or five years younger. I was 15 in 1985. There might be more of us "80s Yes fans" and prog fans than I previously thought. ;)
I knew about Yes before 90125 because my dad had TYA but it was really the release of 90125 that made me a fan.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 19:45
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Logan, I had no idea you were around my age or actually probably about four or five years younger. I was 15 in 1985. There might be more of us "80s Yes fans" and prog fans than I previously thought. ;)
I knew about Yes before 90125 because my dad had TYA but it was really the release of 90125 that made me a fan.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 03 2024 at 20:48
verslibre wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Logan, I had no idea you were around my age or actually probably about four or five years younger. I was 15 in 1985. There might be more of us "80s Yes fans" and prog fans than I previously thought. ;)
I knew about Yes before 90125 because my dad had TYA but it was really the release of 90125 that made me a fan.
We're the main demographic vein on the PA, bruh.
Not much difference in our ages -- I keep my specific year secret for legal reasons ;) but I was born in the early 70s. Lots of us of the Too Young to Have Properly Prog Rock 'n' Rolled in its Classic Years: Too Old to Not Be Amazed by Vinyl Records Because We Grew Up With CDs. ;) Okay, some of these younger Prog kids will have seen records in museums, their grandparents collections, their parents collections, thrift stores and actually a host of other places. But we were a generation that was using vinyl regularly (maybe cassette tapes more in the 80s) BEFORE it made a comeback...
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 04 2024 at 02:29
90125, of course
------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 04 2024 at 16:20
verslibre wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Logan, I had no idea you were around my age or actually probably about four or five years younger. I was 15 in 1985. There might be more of us "80s Yes fans" and prog fans than I previously thought. ;)
I knew about Yes before 90125 because my dad had TYA but it was really the release of 90125 that made me a fan.
We're the main demographic vein on the PA, bruh.
I doubt it.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 04 2024 at 16:21
Logan wrote:
verslibre wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Logan, I had no idea you were around my age or actually probably about four or five years younger. I was 15 in 1985. There might be more of us "80s Yes fans" and prog fans than I previously thought. ;)
I knew about Yes before 90125 because my dad had TYA but it was really the release of 90125 that made me a fan.
We're the main demographic vein on the PA, bruh.
Not much difference in our ages -- I keep my specific year secret for legal reasons ;) but I was born in the early 70s. Lots of us of the Too Young to Have Properly Prog Rock 'n' Rolled in its Classic Years: Too Old to Not Be Amazed by Vinyl Records Because We Grew Up With CDs. ;) Okay, some of these younger Prog kids will have seen records in museums, their grandparents collections, their parents collections, thrift stores and actually a host of other places. But we were a generation that was using vinyl regularly (maybe cassette tapes more in the 80s) BEFORE it made a comeback...
Legal reasons? Are you trying to pick up younger prog chicks and don't want them to think you are too old or something?
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 04 2024 at 16:39
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Logan wrote:
verslibre wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Logan, I had no idea you were around my age or actually probably about four or five years younger. I was 15 in 1985. There might be more of us "80s Yes fans" and prog fans than I previously thought. ;)
I knew about Yes before 90125 because my dad had TYA but it was really the release of 90125 that made me a fan.
We're the main demographic vein on the PA, bruh.
Not much difference in our ages -- I keep my specific year secret for legal reasons ;) but I was born in the early 70s. Lots of us of the Too Young to Have Properly Prog Rock 'n' Rolled in its Classic Years: Too Old to Not Be Amazed by Vinyl Records Because We Grew Up With CDs. ;) Okay, some of these younger Prog kids will have seen records in museums, their grandparents collections, their parents collections, thrift stores and actually a host of other places. But we were a generation that was using vinyl regularly (maybe cassette tapes more in the 80s) BEFORE it made a comeback...
Legal reasons? Are you trying to pick up younger prog chicks and don't want them to think you are too old or something?
I've been Cruising to the Edge where the number one biddy rule is "You must be at least 54 to ride this."
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 04 2024 at 17:21
In that case I would just make it. I was always tall so I always passed the rides when I was a kid that had the height rule. ;)
I will say though that there are probably more prog fans who discovered the genre in the 80s than in the 90s. There wasn't really much to discover in that decade. Dream Theater? PF's The Division Bell? Counterparts? ;)
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 04 2024 at 18:00
^ These rides are often about five foot four. I was regularly IDed until I was well into my 30s, which annoyed me, but it annoyed me more when they stopped IDing me and especially when they continued not to...
The 80s was also the right time for really getting into music for those of us who were teenagers then. I wasn't much exposed to 80s Prog in the 80s (well, other than some Rush like Moving Pictures), I was being exposed to the classic stuff.
I appreciate 80s music (mostly not Prog) far more now than I did in the 80s. Same with the 90s which has so much music that I love. (mostly not Prog).
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 04 2024 at 18:55
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
verslibre wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Logan, I had no idea you were around my age or actually probably about four or five years younger. I was 15 in 1985. There might be more of us "80s Yes fans" and prog fans than I previously thought. ;)
I knew about Yes before 90125 because my dad had TYA but it was really the release of 90125 that made me a fan.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 04 2024 at 19:02
verslibre wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
verslibre wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Logan, I had no idea you were around my age or actually probably about four or five years younger. I was 15 in 1985. There might be more of us "80s Yes fans" and prog fans than I previously thought. ;)
I knew about Yes before 90125 because my dad had TYA but it was really the release of 90125 that made me a fan.
We're the main demographic vein on the PA, bruh.
I doubt it.
You think a bunch of geriatrics run the site?
I actually don't know who runs the site. However, there's probably more gen z gen y people on here than you realize. As for the geriatrics for a long time it was mostly older people showing up at the prog shows. If you go see Yes or go to Cruise to the Edge or some other old band shows it's mostly those who got into prog in the 70s. At least that has been my observation. Also, I remember going to see Ozric Tentacles and most everyone was either ten years older or ten years younger than me.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 04 2024 at 19:10
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I will say though that there are probably more prog fans who discovered the genre in the 80s than in the 90s. There wasn't really much to discover in that decade. Dream Theater? PF's The Division Bell? Counterparts? ;)
I won't argue either way, because I got into all the legacy EM artists in the '80s: Tangerine Dream, Synergy, Vangelis, Kitaro, Jean-Michel Jarre, Kraftwerk, etc. I knew Goblin thanks to Suspiria, Tenebre and Dawn of the Dead. I also knew of PFM.
I found out about some bands via Goldmine and Keyboard, e.g. Mastermind (yes, really), North Star, Camel, Klaatu, and so on.
In one of the Guitar mags, an interview with Geddy Lee began with the fragment (don't overthink it, it was music journalism), "...Rush, father to bands such as Queensr˙che and Dream Theater..." That was the first time I'd heard of DT. I didn't hear the song "Afterlife" till '91, though.
In 1989, the title track of this album got airplay on FM over here, amazingly. That was the first time I heard of them.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 04 2024 at 19:10
Logan wrote:
^ These rides are often about five foot four. I was regularly IDed until I was well into my 30s, which annoyed me, but it annoyed me more when they stopped IDing me and especially when they continued not to...
The 80s was also the right time for really getting into music for those of us who were teenagers then. I wasn't much exposed to 80s Prog in the 80s (well, other than some Rush like Moving Pictures), I was being exposed to the classic stuff.
I appreciate 80s music (mostly not Prog) far more now than I did in the 80s. Same with the 90s which has so much music that I love. (mostly not Prog).
Yep. I got into prog partly though an older cousin ( four years older than me). His favorite band was (and I'm guessing still might be) Genesis. In the 80s I knew about Asia and Marillion and that's about it for current stuff (not counting current albums by Yes, Genesis, PF, Rush, JT, MB, etc). I was aready big into what was played on rock radio (arena rock and classic rock) so that sort of primed me a little bit for prog. I kind of felt like an outsider at the time because no one at my school was into any prog bands except for Pink Floyd and maybe a little bit of Rush. Now I like 80s stuff and 90s stuff. In the 80s I was mostly into Led Zeppelin, Yes, PF, Rush, KC etc (the big name 70s bands). In the 90s I took about a five or six year break from prog while I was in college and was mostly into alternative which I still like.
As for the ID thing I was also carded until I was in my mid to late 30s. I remember being pissed off for being carded at age 35. Then after that, like you, I was pissed off I wasn't. Lol. At least I had the prog shows and festivals to go to to make me feel young. For the longest time I felt like one of the youngest people at these shows. Lol. So maybe prog isn't an "old fart" genre now but for a long time it sure felt that way (at least judging by the age group at most concerts and festivals).
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 04 2024 at 19:15
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I actually don't know who runs the site. However, there's probably more gen z gen y people on here than you realize. As for the geriatrics for a long time it was mostly older people showing up at the prog shows. If you go see Yes or go to Cruise to the Edge or some other old band shows it's mostly those who got into prog in the 70s. At least that has been my observation. Also, I remember going to see Ozric Tentacles and most everyone was either ten years older or ten years younger than me.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 04 2024 at 19:16
verslibre wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I will say though that there are probably more prog fans who discovered the genre in the 80s than in the 90s. There wasn't really much to discover in that decade. Dream Theater? PF's The Division Bell? Counterparts? ;)
I won't argue either way, because I got into all the legacy EM artists in the '80s: Tangerine Dream, Synergy, Vangelis, Kitaro, Jean-Michel Jarre, Kraftwerk, etc. I knew Goblin thanks to Suspiria, Tenebre and Dawn of the Dead. I also knew of PFM.
I found out about some bands via Goldmine and Keyboard, e.g. Mastermind (yes, really), North Star, Camel, Klaatu, and so on.
In one of the Guitar mags, an interview with Geddy Lee began with the fragment (don't overthink it, it was music journalism), "...Rush, father to bands such as Queensr˙che and Dream Theater..." That was the first time I'd heard of DT. I didn't hear the song "Afterlife" till '91, though.
In 1989, the title track of this album got airplay on FM over here, amazingly. That was the first time I heard of them.
More people online in the '90s than the '80s, though. Doug Larson sending out sampler tapes helped a lot.
In the late 80s I listened to a radio show called "the progressive music show" or something like that. I first heard of CTS because of that show. Soon after that I went to a local record store took the vinyl album to the counter and asked if they could order it for me on cd. I still have never heard much else by the band but at least it made me aware that current bands could still make good music like that (oh and one of the reviews for that particular album is by yours truly ;)). Them and a very obscure band from California called Episode who I found out about while attending a Yes convention in New Jersey in the summer of 1987 (everyone was greatly anticipating the release of BG including me).
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 04 2024 at 19:26
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Them and a very obscure band from California called Episode who I found out about while attending a Yes convention in New Jersey in the summer of 1987 (everyone was greatly anticipating the release of BG including me).
For the time, they were unknown. They must've programmed many faxes to get the word out.
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: December 04 2024 at 22:01
Bruford Levin Upper Extremities 5 stars 90125 3 stars I don't know the rest.
------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 05 2024 at 09:12
Well it's the bland AOR of 90125 versus the more interesting pile of poo that is Rock n roll prophet. It's weirdly close but I'm not voting.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 05 2024 at 09:36
richardh wrote:
Well it's the bland AOR of 90125 versus the more interesting pile of poo that is Rock n roll prophet. It's weirdly close but I'm not voting.
I've never thought of 90125 as being bland AOR before, but maybe that's because I happen to like AOR.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 05 2024 at 10:19
verslibre wrote:
And speaking of North Star, I did order their LP Triskelion and liked it, ATTWT Genesis warts and all.
I know them. I have Triskeion and a later one and used to have a couple of cassette tapes. I'm not a fan of the lead singer though.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 05 2024 at 10:24
verslibre wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Them and a very obscure band from California called Episode who I found out about while attending a Yes convention in New Jersey in the summer of 1987 (everyone was greatly anticipating the release of BG including me).
For the time, they were unknown. They must've programmed many faxes to get the word out.
You don't know them? Much better than North Star. Unfortunately the only way you can listen to their music is to buy the cassette (or maybe vinyl) on ebay (how I got my current copy on cassette). I think Greg Walker still carries the vinyl album too. Into the Epicenter might be the text book definition of a buried treasure. They had a second one too and while it's still good the first one is a bit better and a total unsung classic imo.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 05 2024 at 13:21
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
verslibre wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Them and a very obscure band from California called Episode who I found out about while attending a Yes convention in New Jersey in the summer of 1987 (everyone was greatly anticipating the release of BG including me).
For the time, they were unknown. They must've programmed many faxes to get the word out.
You don't know them? Much better than North Star. Unfortunately the only way you can listen to their music is to buy the cassette (or maybe vinyl) on ebay (how I got my current copy on cassette). I think Greg Walker still carries the vinyl album too. Into the Epicenter might be the text book definition of a buried treasure. They had a second one too and while it's still good the first one is a bit better and a total unsung classic imo.
I do know Episode. I meant "at the time" (1987) they were unknown. Or little-known, however you call it.
Personally, I like North Star better (see the next post).
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 05 2024 at 13:31
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
verslibre wrote:
And speaking of North Star, I did order their LP Triskelion and liked it, ATTWT Genesis warts and all.
I know them. I have Triskeion and a later one and used to have a couple of cassette tapes. I'm not a fan of the lead singer though.
I ended up getting everything they released, all the way up through their final (?) album, Transcendence, and keyboardist Kevin Leonard's solo electronic cassette-only albums like On the Edge (no CD release) and Automatrix (got a CD reissue).
I know what you mean about the vocals. But I like Kevin's keyboard playing and their overall sound. They got better after the first couple albums in the '80s. Their instrumentals are great.
Then there was their NEARfest appearance. I recall over on the other site, one user (who hasn't been around for years) commented on how she couldn't help but notice a long "object" in Joe's pants while he was singing and playing bass. Then Joe reached into his pocket and pulled out an obelisk. That's show business for you.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 05 2024 at 14:39
Yeah, I'm not crazy about the rough vocals of their singer. They did have one instrumental album that I have on cd that was ok but not that good called Tempest (I think). I much prefer the female vocals of Episode (even though her vocals weren't perfect either). There was also the Under the Big Tree album but I never owned it. I heard a little on youtube but wasn't crazy about the sound (maybe it was the production or something) and so have no real desire to buy it.
I remember North Star at Nearfest. I even talked to Kevin Leonard after their performance. I don't remember the pants thing though. I think I have an autographed copy of Kevin's automatrix album on cd but not sure (I'll have to check at some point). I remember liking it better than North Star though. Yeah, they were an ok band with some good tracks but not a "world class" band which is what Nearfest were aiming for. All my opinion of course. We all hear different things.
As for this poll, I only know 90125 so no vote from me.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 05 2024 at 20:19
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
richardh wrote:
Well it's the bland AOR of 90125 versus the more interesting pile of poo that is Rock n roll prophet. It's weirdly close but I'm not voting.
I've never thought of 90125 as being bland AOR before, but maybe that's because I happen to like AOR.
I find it virtually unlistenable and only like the instrumental track Cinema. If they had followed that idea through the album it would have been okay but they don't really. Leave It is also okay but it feels to me they are just throwing a dog a bone or two and that's it. Pity Eddie Jobson didn't hang around as he might have made it better.
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 03:51
90125 is a classic no matter what they say... so it gets a vote from me.