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Topic: Live Albums
Posted By: Jared
Subject: Live Albums
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 04:48
I have been thinking about this quite a bit recently... there are Live albums and then there are LIVE albums. During their prime, most Prog Bands from the 70's released at least one live offering, but the question is, did the quality of said album really enhance their discography while they were at their height of artistic creativity? Show another dimension to the band? In effect, was the 'whole' we received, greater than the sum of the studio parts?
Please list your Favourite FIVE Live Prog albums from the classic era, which you feel no collection should be without?
On the other side of the coin, were there bands who in your opinion, released a number of great studio albums and were very important within the movement who, for one reason or another either didn't release a live offering or did, but through under-rehearsing, muddy production, poor track choices, unnecessary brevity, or simply a 'going through the motions' performance lacking passion, failed to reach anywhere near their potential?
Please list FIVE Prog bands from the classic era, who you have always felt short-changed by and wish they could have done better during their purple patch?
Thank you, and I will look forward to seeing what you all come up with, before I contribute.... 
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 05:20
Top 5 Favourite Live Prog Albums
1989: ABWH - An Evening of Yes Music Plus - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLesS8G23t0LHpei-6jCPfuB-mgxHzvbYW" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLesS8G23t0LHpei-6jCPfuB-mgxHzvbYW 1974: Barclay James Harvest - Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kyrBzeN9N2cOnVYVoGdMmc3uBfrU6iPtI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kyrBzeN9N2cOnVYVoGdMmc3uBfrU6iPtI 1978: Camel - A Live Record - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m4-adu0ifiojsm-vz-PLACrpKN_AwxEXI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m4-adu0ifiojsm-vz-PLACrpKN_AwxEXI 1973: Genesis - Genesis Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lus98yp-GOfBWcQfVmPP6L1" rel="nofollow - 1976: Renaissance - Live at Carnegie Hall - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lBZgxdlejr_LlB6XiCdeCOmx4vZarpprU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lBZgxdlejr_LlB6XiCdeCOmx4vZarpprU
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 05:39
Frank Zappa - Roxy & Elsewhere Rush - Exit Stage Left Gentle Giant - Playing the Fool Brand X - Livestock Genesis - Seconds Out
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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 05:55
Favourite 5 Live Prog Albums ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition Gentle Giant - Playing The Fool Genesis - Live Jethro Tull - Bursting Out Supertramp - Paris
Honourable Mentions ELP - Welcome Back My Friends .... Camel - A Live Record Barclay James Harvest - Live Procol Harum - Live In Concert With The Edmonton Symphony Orchestra Genesis - Seconds Out
Favourite Non Prog Live albums Dr Feelgood - Stupidity Live Dates - Wishbone Ash Deep Purple - Made In Japan Thin Lizzy - Live And Dangerous David Bowie - David Live Kate Bush - Before The Dawn
Shortchanged I honestly can't think of any other than King Crimson's USA.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 06:16
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
...  1974: Barclay James Harvest - Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kyrBzeN9N2cOnVYVoGdMmc3uBfrU6iPtI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kyrBzeN9N2cOnVYVoGdMmc3uBfrU6iPtI  1976: Renaissance - Live at Carnegie Hall - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lBZgxdlejr_LlB6XiCdeCOmx4vZarpprU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lBZgxdlejr_LlB6XiCdeCOmx4vZarpprU ... |
Hi,
Outstanding choices.
Would like to include: Frank Zappa - Roxy & Elsewhere
ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition
Amon Duul 2 - Live in London
Grobbschnit - Solar Music Live
Guru Guru - Some of the very early stuff with Ax Gernrich doing his crazy stuff, which gave us some stuff in a few albums
Can - Hard to not mention this band live, with Damo ... but sadly, so much of the stuff that is shown up in the past few years, is not complete, so you don't really have a nice view. But the special TRIBUTE to Jaki is a must see for anyone ... it was excellent and it got better with Damo towards the end.
Ange - Tome VI ... fantastic live album!
Some jazzy stuff:
Gismonti, Haden and Garbarek - Magico
Return to Forever - The Mothership Returns
Miles Davis - The recent bootleg series that was released of Miles in France, has some incredible stuff, and you can see why he liked playing in Europe ... he never had to worry about a hit ... he could just show up and play ... and DID!
Some other stuff:
Tangerine Dream - So many great concerts live, in their last 20 years since Jerome left, and even the shows with him were good. It was just strange that some folks disliked it because it was about the music, and not the "show" as rock fans insist. In one show I saw them, Edgar Froese stopped a show to ask that a fan be removed ... he shouted rock'n'roll for a long time ... before Edgar blew his fuse, and deservedly so!
Klaus Schulze - The Live stiff with Lisa is excellent, and courageous, but it shows how good he was as a live performer, and while I never met anyone that saw any of his shows (never made it to America I don't think!), the few that are shown on video are incredible.
Kate Bush - The Live show in London which is available on CD but she has said that the video is not a priority. I think she is overly critical of her stuff, but I bet that the personal appearance was not what she wanted to show most, as her history was very strong in that area. But the music in the show, per CD's, was magnificent.
Mississippi Charles Bevel - He was a singer and songwriter that quit the music business and was working as an engineer at the PBS station in LA. He had a 30 minute video done at the station that was out of this world, and one of the prettiest and tuneful voices ever, singing his own material. The station has not replied to my email inquiring about that video, in 4 tries over 3 years. The material was outstanding and it was about "freedom" ... the kind that we don't always see or follow! Best concert I have ever seen! Also saw him in Santa Barbara with Chick Streetman and they were fabulous together.
Nektar - Live ... on the first American tour and at the Santa Monica Civic ... they tore up the place. Incredible all around, and it was never shown at all despite there being a lot of video cameras around the floor. My guess is that the material was not quite as close to the albums as it could be, and thus a live album was not done, to prevent the fans from seeing something they did not quite recognize. A bad, very bad, decision. Otherwise "Sounds Like This" is a LIVE album!
Hawkwind - (first) Space Ritual tour, also at the Santa Monica Civic ... insanely good and strong, though it was very loud and roomie had a hard time with it for a week or so.
AND, best of all ... the 1972 Pink Floyd show at The Hollywood Bowl ... IN QUADRAPHONIC sound, which you had a chance of hearing if you saw the original THE WALL, or the first set of movie shows of THE WALL that were done in QUAD. After that, the band went downhill for me. The sound, and those first notes of "One Of These Days" going around the whole venue at the start, was, by itself ... insane and far out. The other excellent moment was in THE WALL ... when the girl said ... look at all those guitars ... and you hear her walk from the back of the audience to the front of the audience to the guitars ... if you can visualize ... that could only be done in QUAD, and RW murdered that moment in his own version.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 06:19
Top 5 Favourite Live "Classic Period" Prog Albums
Triumvirat-Live at Ultrasonics Studios Colosseum Live Rush-All The World's A Stage ELP-Pictures At An Exhibition Badger-One Live Badger
5 Classic Prog Groups I Wish Had Left A Proper Live Album
Dzyan Dedalus Wallenstein Beggar's Opera Libra
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 06:48
Hosydi wrote:
... Caravan: The Best of Caravan "Live" ... |
Hi,
Caravan and the New Sinfonia ... which had on the remastered album all the music that the LP did not have and the order of the material was done correctly ... it is a magnificent concert, when you factor in that the orchestra, originally did not want to do the encore (no extra pay!) and Pye told them to f**k off. And the orchestra folks ... kinda swallowed it and went on ... and they sounded excellent. By very far, one of the best things CARAVAN ever did.
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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Posted By: ThyroidGlands
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 09:22
Grobschnitt - Solar Music Live (1978)ELP - Welcome Back my Friends... (1974)
VDGG - at Maison de la Mutualité (released in 2020/2021, not in the 70's)
Magma - Retrospektïẁ I-II (1981)
GG - Playing the Fool (1977)
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 10:20
Hosydi wrote:
... Caravan music doesn't seem to fit well with an orchestra, in my opinion, so I prefer The Best of Caravan "Live" (also known as Live at Fairfield Hall), which was first released in France and features those early Caravan songs like The Love in Your Eye, For Richard, and others. The quality of the recording is good. |
Hi,
Strange ... because the music added for it was actually composed for it, to augment the band, and within the concert, you can hear them playing with the orchestra really well, be it the conducting, or the creation of the orchestra side of the music. Either way it works.
Caravan, is actually an excellent symphonic band, and the keyboards in it, almost always are adding a nice symphonic side to their music ... witness the side 2 of the "For Girls Who Grow Plump In The Night" album. the combination is excellent. "For Richard", even as heard by the Daily Doug is more on the solo style Canterbury thing, as in the first days, it was pop'py (if you will ... early Caravan was very much pop music ... witness first album and parts of the 2nd), and the soloing was not designed to be symphonic at all. But within the confines of the orchestra in the Neu Simfonia, it works really well, as the orchestra takes on the solo side of the original.
It's sad that the Neu Sinfonia is not liked as much as other works ... it is an excellent piece of work and way better than so many bands just using the orchestra for giggles and to make them look like they are better than they really are, and they still "solo" over the orchestra, which sounds good, but it doesn't really add anything to the band's composition ... the orchestra is there to kiss and lay the melody, nothing else. This is not quite the case with the Neu Sinfonia album, and I think that Pye and the rest of them were extremely aware of that, and probably were quite aware of it going way back to The Moody Blues album.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 10:23
ThyroidGlands wrote:
... Magma - Retrospektïẁ I-II (1981) ...
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Hi,
MAGMA, for me, is best when you see them live ... a recording is nice, but not really as far out as the experience of being there and feeling it ... the three times I saw them here on the West Coast (SF in 1999) and later twice in Portland, verified that really well ... I would not trade any of the live experiences for any live albums of theirs.
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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Posted By: ThyroidGlands
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 12:32
moshkito wrote:
MAGMA, for me, is best when you see them live ... a recording is nice, but not really as far out as the experience of being there and feeling it ... the three times I saw them here on the West Coast (SF in 1999) and later twice in Portland, verified that really well ... I would not trade any of the live experiences for any live albums of theirs. |
I guess seeing Magma must be one of the most impressive experiences for almost any progressive rock fan (or music fan, why not). Magma came to Argentina only once, in 2017, as part of a small tour through Latin America. They played at the ND Ateneo, a venue with about 250 seats (approximately), a concert I couldn’t attend because I didn’t know the band. Unfortunately, they only filled half of the place. The only album that was officially released in Argentina was the inaccessible Kohntarkosz, in 1975, shortly after its first release in September of '74. For that same reason, it's understandable that the band didn't have much exposure. If they had at least released MDK, Hhaï/Live orÜdü Ẁüdü, they might have had a small fanbase.
------------- You don't know nothin' You don't know nothin' about You don't know nothin' You don't know nothin' at all
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 12:49
Thank you everyone for your comments...
For me, Five examples of live albums which elevated the bands music to another level would include:
Colosseum: Live, ELP: Welcome Back, Grobschnitt: Solar Music, Renaissance: Carnegie Hall & Hawkwind: Space Ritual
MMEB did a couple of live albums during the 70's/ 80's, but are unexceptional, as with Nektar's Live In New York and Moodies' Caught Live +5. I wished ELO had made a better live album of their earlier material, say after Eldorado. I'm not a big fan of VDGG's Vital; too aggressive and Punk for me, without Jackson's sax, and I suppose I wish Focus had held back until after Hamburger to release a live cut, because Rainbow is too slight.... just a few thoughts.
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 15:36
Personally I'm not a collector kind of guy and I think people should just buy what they want, so the "no collection should be without" department is pretty empty here.
However I love a good live album, and here are five, three classics and two dark horses: Genesis - Live Yes - Yessongs Renaissance - Live at Carnegie Hall Kraan - Live Hölderlin - Live Traumstadt Last letter typed and already some others come to mind, but I leave it at that. Curious whether a Can Live album released in the seventies would've sounded different than all the material that was made available much later. I agree with Jared that we didn't get a proper 70s Manfred Mann's Earth Band live album, and I also imagine VDGG could've given us something more than Vital.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 16:05
Off the top of my melon, five that I love... (Prog, prog-related, and close enough for me)
Song Remains the Same Yessongs All the World's a Stage Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack Arriving Somewhere But Not Here Allman Brothers Fillmore East (Honorable Mention)
Can't think of five letdowns right now, but Yesshows would be one. My track selection for that album would have been radically different and I'd want it as long as Yessongs (3 vinyls).
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 21:52
ELP - Welecome Back My Friends.. Be Bop Deluxe - Live In The Air Age Rush - Exit Stage Left Manfred Mann's Earthband - Live In Budapest Genesis - Live In London 1980 *
The last choice is not an official release and was a BBC recording but to this day is my favourite live recording of a classic prog band. Much of that is to do with the set list as they play the so called 'Duke Suite' which rivals Suppers Ready. I don't particularly like the more revered Seconds Out because of sound quality issues (no dynamics) but mainly because of set list. I don't need a live version of Suppers Ready as the album version is perfect imo.
Yes made good live albums and were probably the greatest live band I ever saw. I would pick a later live album as showcasing that personally and for me Yes Symhonic was the perfect realisation of what they were about.
Pink Floyd seemingly don't have a great live album other than Live in Pompei which like the above was a visual experience and not just a live album.
Jethro Tull were obviously a great live band but I'm not aware of a live album that captures them in their classic era.
King Crimson seem to have a sh*t ton of late career live albums. Seems to be saturation. Classic era no idea.
PFM - I don't like Cook that much. They were fast turning into a jazz rock combo even by 1974 and the majesty of the band on Per Un Amico and Storia Di Un MInuto is largely missing imo.
Gentle Giant- I'm not keen on their live albums to be honest. Perfect in the studio band if ever there was.
ELP were the ultimate improvisonal live band. Although I can respect people picking Pictures At An Exhibition I would rather enjoy the evolution of that peice of music through their many live versions such as the Works tour version from 1977. I find that interesting in itself. The original performance back in 1970 at the Isle Of Wight festival provides a rough and ready template from which to go from.
I would love to have seen Be Bop Deluxe and Manfred Mann's Earthband during the seventies. They were bands that I reckon were better at playing live than producing studio albums. I had the opportunity as both bands came to the newly opened Swindon Oasis around about 1977 but I was still feeling my way into music and didn't have someone to appreciate that that was the thing to do like say an older brother.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 22:19
richardh wrote:
... Pink Floyd seemingly don't have a great live album other than Live in Pompei which like the above was a visual experience and not just a live album. ... |
Hi,
I think they could have some excellent live albums ... IF ... large IF ... they would have been able to bottle up their QUADRAPHONIC setup. This was done, at least, at the Hollywood Bowl in 1972, and on the first shows of THE WALL, both on the film premiere before its regular release (we saw one of those shows in SF ... and it was QUAD. The live show of THE WALL, was also in QUAD in LA ... where a lot of very neat things were done in the setup ... as I mentioned before, the example, was the girl saying "look at all those guitars" in the back of the theater, and she literally walked to the front ... let's say to touch the guitars ... it was a neat moment, but something that RW ruined for his version of the shows. DSOTM, was almost too much about the movie screen and lasers ... and if it had QUAD, I didn't notice it, though the dialogue and fun stuff was all over the theater itself, in LA ... but nowhere near the quality and touch of The Hollywood Bowl show a couple of years earlier.
SW is testing some parts of his new album in very experimental locations around London ... I bet he is trying to see if he can duplicate the QUAD experience, so the music appears to be more important and less of a show ... it would become a sensory experience, as the QUAD thing was then.
But these days, the thing is getting as many people into the large venue as you can and use the cheapest lights and sound possible. When I saw KC a few years back in Seattle, their sound was fine, and nice ... but you know what? If it had the sonic boom of QUAD it would have made the whole thing even better. Instead, it was just another rock show, albeit with a much better line up and music!
I suppose the Sphere in Las Vegas is the nearest one can get to the quality of the QUAD ... and I bet SW would love to be there and design a show, although I bet that he already knows and thinks that the sound system in there is stupid, and only sounds good because there are thousands of speakers everywhere ... but I am betting that the mixing side of it is cheap and ridiculous, and you can not see it with any of the bands they have had so far. You would need a Tangerine Dream, a Pink Floyd (not just RW) and a band that is not just raising the volume to make you think this is great stuff. Like DP used to do in the old days, as well as BS.
I walked out of both of those shows, btw .. it was impossible to enjoy the shows as loud as they were. Same with the Rolling Stones ... I lasted 20 minutes there!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 02 2025 at 22:28
Finnforest wrote:
... Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack ...
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Hi,
For a band so well known for their live shows, and one of the best sound systems ever for any band, the GD has never really featured a great live album ... and I think this is so, because of 10K recordings of the band live, and we have no idea which of those was a great show or not!
Kinda sad, really, because when you see some of it on the toob, or eve hearing the Daily Doug talking about it, he's impressed by the quality and the musicianship in a lot of the shows he has featured. And I wish that PA would really bring them home ... they are the only one band, that I would love to see here, and respected by the so-called progressive music fans, instead of ignoring them and consider a lot of the work they did ... just crap ... musically they had more than most progressive bands do in their whole show, without the egotistical soloing to show how great the folks were. The GD did not need to show off ... they knew what they were about and doing it!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 06:52
^ I share your opinion that they should be here now. This is not a purist site as one can tell by looking at our list of bands....but I'm in the post-agitation phase of my PA career. 
------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 08:21
This is an excellently presented, well thought-out topic, kudos and I wish I could answer it better (more clearly and on-point).
Jared wrote:
I have been thinking about this quite a bit recently... there are Live albums and then there are LIVE albums. During their prime, most Prog Bands from the 70's released at least one live offering, but the question is, did the quality of said album really enhance their discography while they were at their height of artistic creativity? Show another dimension to the band? In effect, was the 'whole' we received, greater than the sum of the studio parts?
Please list your Favourite FIVE Live Prog albums from the classic era, which you feel no collection should be without? |
I have decided to limit this to live albums that were released in the 70s. There are other classics into the 80s that I wanted to list, but one has to draw the line somewhere. And also I tend to favour only mentioning one per band per list. I did make live album topic some months ago but done differently and for all years. Linking to it not to promote my own topic but because it might prove a good reference and others shared lists there already https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=134001" rel="nofollow - Live Albums Topic (click) .
I won't say every collection (and I take issue with that phrasing with PA's ratings), but I do think these are all worth checking out or at least considering for serious site users wo are 70s progressive explorers, and I seriously believe that they all enhance the discography. There are "bigger" names with amazing live albums worth mentioning too. I know Magma can be marmite for instance, but I do think that for the serious music aficionado at this site, this is one they should check out. In fact, at least one person at this site found the Magma Live to be an excellent recommendation when asking about Magma releases to explore (1981's Rétrospective Vol. 1 & 2 has been the one I have played the most, and there are various superb archival releases).
Some might argue that Miles Davis is not Prog, I won't disagree with that, and some say that he never made Prog... That is more explorable. I would say that he made albums in the late 60s into the mid 70s (the electric Miles period) that are worthy additions to our J/F category and a particularly Prog-like one is his live Dark Magus (I might like Agharta the most but that and Pangaea and Live Evil are all excellent, I think)
Five of my favourite 70s live albums that I feel very worthy of serious collectors and explorers at this site to at the least consider spinning
Magma - Magma Live (released 1975) Tangerine Dream - Ricochet (released 1975) Miles Davis - Dark Magus (released 1977) Kraan - Kraan Live (released 1975) Area - Are(A)zione (released 1975)
{edit, I had listed a different Miles Davis than I intended to when copy-pasting my choices from my list in that other more inclusive live albums topic}
Jared wrote:
On the other side of the coin, were there bands who in your opinion, released a number of great studio albums and were very important within the movement who, for one reason or another either didn't release a live offering or did, but through under-rehearsing, muddy production, poor track choices, unnecessary brevity, or simply a 'going through the motions' performance lacking passion, failed to reach anywhere near their potential?
Please list FIVE Prog bands from the classic era, who you have always felt short-changed by and wish they could have done better during their purple patch? |
Now this is a harder question for me. i have not read through the responses, but with cursory scan it looks like I was not the only struggling.
For less than stellar sound quality recording/production, Henry Cow's Concerts and the archival Robert Wyatt and Friends - Theatre Royal Drury Lane 8th September 1974. Not saying they are less enjoyable for it, but for one who likes clean releases. And maybe my copies are of "lesser" audio quality. Off on my own thing, Geinoh Yamashirogumi is a band I suggested for PA and was added to it and I just felt that band deserved more recognition for Osorezan in particular. I promoted it a lot. I would not say they have many classic Prog albums, but I want to highlight Geinoh Yamashirogumi - Live ''Hirakareta Gassho'' Junen No Tenkai (released 1979) which features Osorezan,
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 08:55
Logan wrote:
... Tangerine Dream - Ricochet (released 1975) ... |
Hi,
The Live in America album that followed it, and had pictures of the lasers on the trees at the Greek Theater (the Observatory famous for Laserium is right above the Theater btw!!!), is also a very good show ... were it not that many of the pieces were cut down and not shown properly ... the show was way longer than the 4 sides of a LP that measured nearly 79 minutes or so.
If, the Live album in America was complete, and I'm positive that the TD folks have the tapes for it, they taped everything just like Frank Zappa did!, it would show how valuable and important it was ... and how difficult it was for Christopher Franke to get his equipment to come up and be ready for it to work properly, which took over 20 minutes. It was well known, then, how difficult a lot of the early synth stuff was and how it behaved differently on the open air stages, where the equipment, eventually had to warm up ... not that it was an issue in Southern California, but one nonetheless.
It made for a lot of bootlegs in those early days ... because the equipment could not exactly duplicate things, for at least 3 or 4 more years, when things got better, but it almost took Christopher Franke leaving to make it happen, which was a suggestion (for a time) that Christopher was a slight problem, even if Edgar would not state that in the book. Edgar made it look like he was specially patient with Christopher for a long time, but before the end of the decade, it was over and things changed, and TD started using more efficient equipment, instead of the behemoth old stuff.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 09:11
^ Tangerine Dream's Ricochet and Encore (1977) are both loved from me, as well as some later lives.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 09:37
Logan wrote:
^ Tangerine Dream's Ricochet and Encore (1977) are both loved from me, as well as some later lives. |
Hi,
To my knowledge "Encore" is the same as "Live in America"
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 09:55
moshkito wrote:
Logan wrote:
^ Tangerine Dream's Ricochet and Encore (1977) are both loved from me, as well as some later lives. |
Hi,
To my knowledge "Encore" is the same as "Live in America" |
I had assumed you were talking about the same.
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Posted By: rik wilson
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 12:24
TOP FIVE LIVE: Soft Machine-Elton Dean Era Dixie Dregs- Bring 'Em Back Alive Hatfield and the North-Live at the BBC Brand X- Timeline Anglagard- Nearfest 2003
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Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 13:27
Yes: Yessongs ELP: Welcome Back My Friends to the Show That Never Ends Genesis: Seconds Out Rush: Exit....Stage Left Mahavisnu Orchestra: Between Nothingness and Eternity
Lot of miles on each of these albums. Many of the live versions of the songs from each of these albums is superior to the studio version. The Mahavisnu Orchestra live album contained tracks recorded during the Trident sessions later released 26 years later on The Lost Trident Sessions album.
As good as Dream, Sister Andrea and Trilogy are on the studio release, they do not have the fire that was realized on the live album. Between Nothingness and Eternity showed the Mahavisnu Orchestra at their peak abilities, even as they were fraying apart. Few bands could match them live.
Each one of these live albums showed these bands at their best, firing on all 12 cylinders. Production mars some of the quality of these albums, especially ELP and Yes's releases, but the performances are absolutely first rate.
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Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 13:29
rik wilson wrote:
TOP FIVE LIVE: Soft Machine-Elton Dean Era Dixie Dregs- Bring 'Em Back Alive Hatfield and the North-Live at the BBC Brand X- Timeline Anglagard- Nearfest 2003 |
Bring Em Back Alive is a phenomenal live album from the Dixie Dregs.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 14:16
moshkito wrote:
If, the Live album in America was complete, and I'm positive that the TD folks have the tapes for it, they taped everything just like Frank Zappa did!, it would show how valuable and important it was ... and how difficult it was for Christopher Franke to get his equipment to come up and be ready for it to work properly, which took over 20 minutes. It was well known, then, how difficult a lot of the early synth stuff was and how it behaved differently on the open air stages, where the equipment, eventually had to warm up ... not that it was an issue in Southern California, but one nonetheless.
It made for a lot of bootlegs in those early days ... because the equipment could not exactly duplicate things, for at least 3 or 4 more years, when things got better, but it almost took Christopher Franke leaving to make it happen, which was a suggestion (for a time) that Christopher was a slight problem, even if Edgar would not state that in the book. Edgar made it look like he was specially patient with Christopher for a long time, but before the end of the decade, it was over and things changed, and TD started using more efficient equipment, instead of the behemoth old stuff. |
Encore is an essential entry in Tangerine Dream's discography, no doubt about it ("Monolight" is worth the price of admission), but portions of it aren't actually taken from the tour. This is most evident in "Desert Dream," which uses music sourced from their Oedipus Tyrannus score from 1973 (which was included in the amazing box set, In Search of Hades).
A legitimate, unadulterated concert from the 1977 North American tour, remastered, is found in the third volume of The Official Bootleg Series, a 2xCD. As we all know, the Detroit stop was long one of their most popular and oft-circulated American shows. Tracklist:
CD1
1. Cherokee Lane (12:39) 2. Monolight (21:54) 3. The Emerald Beyond (18:21)
CD2 1. Patterns in the Ivy (14:04) 2. Face of the Earth (13:32) 3. Conjuration (6:30) 4. Signals from Above (11:01)
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 14:25
P.S.
moshkito wrote:
It made for a lot of bootlegs in those early days ... because the equipment could not exactly duplicate things, for at least 3 or 4 more years, when things got better, but it almost took Christopher Franke leaving to make it happen, which was a suggestion (for a time) that Christopher was a slight problem, even if Edgar would not state that in the book. Edgar made it look like he was specially patient with Christopher for a long time, but before the end of the decade, it was over and things changed, and TD started using more efficient equipment, instead of the behemoth old stuff. |
Franke left in 1987. The equipment they were using at the time was a mix of analog and digital and was more stable than anything they were using ten years earlier. They still toured with some modular gear that was basically for show. Franke left because after eight (1980-87) straight years of constant recording and touring that yielded a plethora of original albums, live documents and film soundtracks, they'd agreed to take a break, but suddenly Edgar got more offers and reversed that decision. Franke said he was done and left with his half of the gear (his studio was in West Berlin, Edgar's was in Austria at the time).
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 14:35
Okay, five classic live albums. This could change in as soon as fifteen minutes.
ELP – WBMFTTSTNE Kansas – Two for the Show King Crimson – USA Rush – Grace Under Pressure: 1984 Tour Tangerine Dream – Poland–The Warsaw Concert
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 15:22
I could easily select nine favourite live albums by Tangerine Dream, so I will. 
 2006: Tangerine Dream - Tempodrome Berlin (DVD/Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g48ZXWsFCoA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g48ZXWsFCoA  2007: Tangerine Dream - Orange Odyssey - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_kdXiP3jQ8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_kdXiP3jQ8  2007: Tangerine Dream - One Night in Space - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYpEO2P38PM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYpEO2P38PM  2008: Tangerine Dream - Live at Loreley - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wjCZ9fyyq0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wjCZ9fyyq0  2009: Tangerine Dream - The London Eye Concert - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyzPGKH0U58" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyzPGKH0U58  2009: Tangerine Dream - Live in Los Angeles (DVD/Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n5n72n3Syk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n5n72n3Syk  2009: Tangerine Dream - Rocking Out the Bats - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEStd5YJdLs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEStd5YJdLs  2010: Tangerine Dream - Zeitgeist: Live in Lisbon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thpd59FmvAE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thpd59FmvAE  2012: Tangerine Dream - The Electric Mandarine Tour: The Zurich Switzerland Concert - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyiKD3YUEDI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyiKD3YUEDI
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Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 10:41
Top Five prog: 1. Yes - Yessongs 2. Supertramp - Paris 3. Saga - In Transit 4. Rick Wakeman - Journey to the Centre of the Earth 5. Rush - Exit Stage Left
Honorable Mentions: 6. Gentle Giant - Playing the Fool 7. Argent - Encore 8. Deep Purple - Made in Japan 9. ELP - Works Live
Non-Prog: 1. Miles Davis - Live in Europe, 1967 2. J. Geils Band - Blow Your Face Out 3. Herbie Hancock - Flood 4. Freddie Hubbard - Without a Song: Live in Europe, 1969 5. Bobby Hutcherson - Live in Montreux 6. Enrico Rava - Plays Miles Davis (Montreal Diary A) 7. Bob Seger - Live Bullet 8. Thin Lizzy - Live and Dangerous 9. Ralph Towner - Solo Concert 10. UFO - Strangers in the Night
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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 10:57
Humble Pie at the Filmore King Crimson USA Blue oyster Cult on your feet or on your knees Procol Harum Live Edmonton Song remains the same (zeppelin)
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 11:36
Henry Cow - Concerts Hawkwind - Space Ritual Tangerine Dream - Ricochet Magma - Hhai Pink Floyd - Ummagumma King Crimson - Great Deceiver
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 11:45
Valdez wrote:
Humble Pie at the Filmore King Crimson USA Blue oyster Cult on your feet or on your knees Procol Harum Live Edmonton Song remains the same (zeppelin) |
Now I feel like revising my list to include Extraterrestrial Live.
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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 11:55
verslibre wrote:
Valdez wrote:
Humble Pie at the Filmore King Crimson USA Blue oyster Cult on your feet or on your knees Procol Harum Live Edmonton Song remains the same (zeppelin) |
Now I feel like revising my list to include Extraterrestrial Live. | Yea I was surprised nobody mentioned BOC. I was lucky enough to have seen them twice and they put on a great show. Also surprised to see no Humble Pie Mentioned, my favorite live album!
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 12:17
Yes - Yessongs Gentle Giant - Playing the Fool Peter Gabriel - Plays Live Discipline - This One's for England Porcupine Tree - COma Divine Big Big Train - From Stone and Steel Tangerine Dream - Ricochet Kansas - Two for the Show Rush - Exit ... Stage Left Van der Graaf Generator - Recorded Live in Concert at Metropolis Studios, London Anna von Hausswolff - Live at Montreux Jazz Festival Genesis - Seconds Out
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 12:44
richardh wrote:
Pink Floyd seemingly don't have a great live album other than Live in Pompei which like the above was a visual experience and not just a live album. |
I think the live album of Ummagumma is just wonderful. But of course another live album, between that and, say, The Wall, would've been very welcome.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 14:34
Valdez wrote:
verslibre wrote:
Valdez wrote:
Humble Pie at the Filmore King Crimson USA Blue oyster Cult on your feet or on your knees Procol Harum Live Edmonton Song remains the same (zeppelin) |
Now I feel like revising my list to include Extraterrestrial Live. | Yea I was surprised nobody mentioned BOC. I was lucky enough to have seen them twice and they put on a great show. Also surprised to see no Humble Pie Mentioned, my favorite live album! |
And nobody includes Kansas in these kinds of lists, usually, but a top five is just too hard, anyway.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 17:51
Rush~All the World's A Stage ELP~In Concert Saga~In Transit Genesis~Live King Crimson~USA
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 05 2025 at 18:50
I'm not going to participate because I don't feel I've heard enough live prog albums. I've heard some but not enough to really be fair about it. I'd be leaving out too many simply because I haven't heard them. For example I haven't heard the live albums by ELP, Camel (first one), Jethro Tull, Marillion, hardly any live Rush after Exit Stage Left and others.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 06 2025 at 09:17
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
For example I haven't heard the live albums by ELP, Camel (first one), Jethro Tull, Marillion, hardly any live Rush after Exit Stage Left and others. |

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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 06 2025 at 12:27
Octopus II wrote:
ShortchangedI honestly can't think of any other than King Crimson's USA.
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You know, with both Fracture and Starless added on to the Reissue, a decent album is made here... eventually. The sound quality is pretty good, the interpretations of several tracks sufficiently varied, the addition of non-album track Asbury Park gives added value, and the performance of Starless in particular sends shivers down your spine... while it may not be a classic, I feel far from the sort of 'short changed' feeling that Earthbound left me with??
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 06 2025 at 12:32
Hosydi wrote:
Caravan music doesn't seem to fit well with an orchestra, in my opinion, so I prefer The Best of Caravan "Live" (also known as Live at Fairfield Hall), which was first released in France and features those early Caravan songs like The Love in Your Eye, For Richard, and others. The quality of the recording is good. |
I personally prefer Fairfield Halls over Symphonia.. I believe the latter was a bit rushed and under-rehearsed. It's a shame they didn't release the former at the time instead, however I would have liked a little more included from Waterloo Lily?
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 06 2025 at 12:39
richardh wrote:
Jethro Tull were obviously a great live band but I'm not aware of a live album that captures them in their classic era. |
I've always thought 'Bursting Out' to be a very strong live offering; full of energetic performances, well recorded and having been released on the Heals of HH, arguably just at the right time for the band? You could say it's a bit 'greatest hits' but I don't feel there's anything wrong with that, and the versions of TaaB and Aqualung are really good... when I think of bands who have underwhelmed in terms of a live document during the peak of their career, I couldn't could JT among them?
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 06 2025 at 13:44
Jared wrote:
I've always thought 'Bursting Out' to be a very strong live offering; full of energetic performances, well recorded and having been released on the Heals of HH, arguably just at the right time for the band? You could say it's a bit 'greatest hits' but I don't feel there's anything wrong with that, and the versions of TaaB and Aqualung are really good... when I think of bands who have underwhelmed in terms of a live document during the peak of their career, I couldn't could JT among them? |
An iconic live album by the best line-up, made even better by the 2004 expanded reissue.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 06 2025 at 14:10
verslibre wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
For example I haven't heard the live albums by ELP, Camel (first one), Jethro Tull, Marillion, hardly any live Rush after Exit Stage Left and others. |

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To you and me, that whole list represents the basics, but I guess it could be generational and we all listen to different things... I mean, I've heard less than 10% of the stuff Greg puts in his polls, for instance!
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 06 2025 at 14:38
Jared wrote:
To you and me, that whole list represents the basics, but I guess it could be generational and we all listen to different things... I mean, I've heard less than 10% of the stuff Greg puts in his polls, for instance! |
Mike's in our age bracket. I guess he's just really taking his time getting around to hearing certain albums. I thought everyone had heard Welcome Back, My Friends by now. 
I need to hear more of the stuff Greg's polls consist of. In most cases, I've heard some but not enough.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: March 07 2025 at 08:28
Deep Purple - Made in Japan Renaissance - Live At Carnegie Hall Camel - A live record YES - Yessongs Jethro Tull - Bursting Out
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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: March 07 2025 at 08:46
5 Live Albums:
Henry Cow - Concerts ELP - Welcome Back... Yes - Yessongs Genesis - Live Zappa - Roxy
Shortchanged:
For this I read, 'cynical cashing in' so:
ELP - Works Vol. 2 (I love ELP but...) Gong - Live Etc. (released without the band's approval) Yes - Yesterdays (just to give us 'America') Zappa - Studio Tan etc. (record company machinations - Zappa wanted 'Lather') Rush - Exit Stage Left (pointless)
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 10 2025 at 18:58
Jared wrote:
richardh wrote:
Jethro Tull were obviously a great live band but I'm not aware of a live album that captures them in their classic era. |
I've always thought 'Bursting Out' to be a very strong live offering; full of energetic performances, well recorded and having been released on the Heals of HH, arguably just at the right time for the band? You could say it's a bit 'greatest hits' but I don't feel there's anything wrong with that, and the versions of TaaB and Aqualung are really good... when I think of bands who have underwhelmed in terms of a live document during the peak of their career, I couldn't could JT among them? |
I actually feel that Bursting Out along with Live at Knebworth together have nearly all their best songs in their best versions.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 26 2025 at 21:13
Jared wrote:
... I wished ELO had made a better live album of their earlier material, say after Eldorado. ... |
Hi,
For my money the only show I would pay to watch ELO would be the really early stuff they did with Roy Wood, which was crazy and fun ... later, ELO became about the "hits" and just a nice easy listening experience, and not that great musically. If none of their work had become a hit, no one would have paid attention. And after watching a few minutes of their recent shows, I turned off two of them after 15 minutes! BORING!
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 27 2025 at 05:17
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
For my money the only show I would pay to watch ELO would be the really early stuff they did with Roy Wood, which was crazy and fun ... later, ELO became about the "hits" and just a nice easy listening experience, and not that great musically. If none of their work had become a hit, no one would have paid attention. And after watching a few minutes of their recent shows, I turned off two of them after 15 minutes! BORING! |
Each to their own... Roy of course was only on the debut; he left during the writing stage for ELO II, leaving Jeff & Co to cobble something together and to my mind, they didn't do a bad job, although I'd be happy not to have to hear Roll Over again... Sorry, but Third Day and Eldorado are both very good, although there was a change from Cellos towards Violins of course... they are both still very progressive and concept driven art rock albums... it's from Face The Music onwards they became 'all about the hits' in my view, which is where I lose my interest. If they had recorded a decent live double album after Eldorado, rather than the apology of 'The Night The Light...', then I'd have been considerably happier.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 27 2025 at 10:20
Whether the "album" was part of a film or not, it will be listed, but excluding the BBC-type of Archives that weren't released for decades
Special entries (containing all new material unavailable before in studio albums) ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition Tangerine Dream – Ricochet & Encore Badger- One Live Badger Mahavisnu Orchestra - Between Nothingness and Eternity Prog live albums Pink Floyd - Umma (Gumma is not live) or Pompeii Argent - Encore Jethro Tull - Nothing Is Easy: The Isle of Wight, 1970. Genesis – Seconds Out King Crimson - USA (and Earthbound 40th anniv remaster) Rush - All The World's A Stage Grobschnitt - Solar Music Live Procol Harum - Edmonton Symphony Orchestra Genesis - Seconds Out Santana - Lotus Magma - Hhaï/Live Chicago - Carbegie Hall Massacre - Killing Time GG - Playing The Fool VdGG - Vital Gong Live, Etc
Un Prog:  Pat Travers Band - Go For What You Knowx Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush - Live (78) Purple - Made In Japan & Made In Europe Song Remains the Same BÖC - Some Enchanted Evening (expanded with filmed concert) Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense U2 - Rattle & Hum (hybrid movie) Wishbone Ash - Live Dates Who - Live At Leeds (expanded) ABB - Fillmore East Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Live Rust/Rust Never Sleeps Dr Feelgood - Stupidity Live Dead Miles - Live-Evil
I probably forget some
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 27 2025 at 12:42
octopus-4 wrote:
Camel - A live record |
I have seen Camel several times. Always loved them live. The Live Record has a good selection of material and great versions of some tracks. The Never Let Go version is one of my all time favourite performances. Still, I think the atmosphere of the album suffers from its patchwork character. Not only different gigs are combined but even different tours, with quite different sounds (older material sounding clearly worse), and little coherence, other than of course The Snow Goose listened to on its own. The greatest live albums are more than the sum of their parts. This one isn't, for me, I'm afraid, despite the great parts.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 27 2025 at 18:00
Deep Purple - Made in Japan. You literally do not have to buy another Purple album if you have this one. The songs are superior to the studio versions in every case.
Jethro Tull - Nothing Is Easy: The Isle of Wight, 1970. Perhaps not as technically brilliant as their later Bursting Out live album, but this one is about as spastic a live prog album as you can get. And the videos are even better and heighten the madness of that Tull era. A rock band at the cusp of superstardom.
Genesis - Seconds Out. The band steps out from the shadow of Peter Gabriel, and performs a technically brilliant live recording. Kudos to both Chester Thompson and Bill Bruford for their accompaniment with Phil Collins on the drums.
Procol Harum - Live in Concert with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra. Just brilliant renditions of Procol compositions topped off by the magnificent "Conquistador", perhaps the best rock/orchestra collab of all.
Frank Zappa - You Can't Do that on Stage Anymore (Volumes 1, 2 and 3, 1988/89). A Zappa pastiche of Zappa live from the 1970s. Includes the magnificently hilarious Helsinki "Montana (Whipping Floss)", "The Yellow Snow Suite", "Cozmik Debris (Lone Ranger version)" and a grand "Inca Roads."
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 29 2025 at 02:40
Sean Trane wrote:
Special entries (containing all new material unavailable before in studio albums) ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition Tangerine Dream – Ricochet & Encore Badger- One Live Badger Mahavisnu Orchestra - Between Nothingness and Eternity |
you are spoilt for choice with TD in this department... Ricochet, Encore, Quichotte, Logos, Poland, LiveMiles to name but six? I think MO remedied that situ with the Lost Trident Sessions? I'll throw in: Anyone's Daughter: Piktors Verwandlungen & Rick Wakeman: Journey Centre Earth
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 29 2025 at 03:27
Jared wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Special entries (containing all new material unavailable before in studio albums) ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition Tangerine Dream – Ricochet & Encore Badger- One Live Badger Mahavisnu Orchestra - Between Nothingness and Eternity |
you are spoilt for choice with TD in this department... Ricochet, Encore, Quichotte, Logos, Poland, LiveMiles to name but six? I think MO remedied that situ with the Lost Trident Sessions? I'll throw in: Anyone's Daughter: Piktors Verwandlungen & Rick Wakeman: Journey Centre Earth
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those three are still somewhat interesting (better than the contemporary studio lbums for sure), but they came during the Schmoeling era, which was definitely a let down compared to the Frantze & Baumann era.
Yess, but ultimately, I prefer the live version of the Lost Trident studio sessions
Haven't heard the former, and wish I'd never heard the latter 
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 30 2025 at 01:54
Lewian wrote:
octopus-4 wrote:
Camel - A live record |
I have seen Camel several times. Always loved them live. The Live Record has a good selection of material and great versions of some tracks. The Never Let Go version is one of my all time favourite performances. Still, I think the atmosphere of the album suffers from its patchwork character. Not only different gigs are combined but even different tours, with quite different sounds (older material sounding clearly worse), and little coherence, other than of course The Snow Goose listened to on its own. The greatest live albums are more than the sum of their parts. This one isn't, for me, I'm afraid, despite the great parts.
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A Live Record is still the only version I have of The Snow Goose, and I really like it, and I don't find anything wrong with the way it sounds. And Overall I do like the album, but I guess you are right about it featuring songs from different tours and even line-ups.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 30 2025 at 01:59
The Dark Elf wrote:
Deep Purple - Made in Japan. You literally do not have to buy another Purple album if you have this one. The songs are superior to the studio versions in every case.
Jethro Tull - Nothing Is Easy: The Isle of Wight, 1970. Perhaps not as technically brilliant as their later Bursting Out live album, but this one is about as spastic a live prog album as you can get. And the videos are even better and heighten the madness of that Tull era. A rock band at the cusp of superstardom.
Genesis - Seconds Out. The band steps out from the shadow of Peter Gabriel, and performs a technically brilliant live recording. Kudos to both Chester Thompson and Bill Bruford for their accompaniment with Phil Collins on the drums.
Procol Harum - Live in Concert with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra. Just brilliant renditions of Procol compositions topped off by the magnificent "Conquistador", perhaps the best rock/orchestra collab of all.
Frank Zappa - You Can't Do that on Stage Anymore (Volumes 1, 2 and 3, 1988/89). A Zappa pastiche of Zappa live from the 1970s. Includes the magnificently hilarious Helsinki "Montana (Whipping Floss)", "The Yellow Snow Suite", "Cozmik Debris (Lone Ranger version)" and a grand "Inca Roads."
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I enjoy Seconds Out, but I do wish they hadn't mixed the guitars so low. Also, I wish they had featured the whole album with Brufford, and that they had the whole versions of the incomplete songs they played from the classic era (Firth of Fifth included, since it is missing the piano intro). And even more fantasy wishing, that they had actually gotten a flute player for the parts it should have been used... Steve Hackett even had a brother that played the flute, he might just as well have been able to take the part.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 30 2025 at 02:56
Dellinger wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
Genesis - Seconds Out. The band steps out from the shadow of Peter Gabriel, and performs a technically brilliant live recording. Kudos to both Chester Thompson and Bill Bruford for their accompaniment with Phil Collins on the drums. |
I enjoy Seconds Out, but I do wish they hadn't mixed the guitars so low. Also, I wish they had featured the whole album with Brufford, and that they had the whole versions of the incomplete songs they played from the classic era (Firth of Fifth included, since it is missing the piano intro). And even more fantasy wishing, that they had actually gotten a flute player for the parts it should have been used... Steve Hackett even had a brother that played the flute, he might just as well have been able to take the part.
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Mr Hackett, please exit Dellinger's profile 
however, I would welcome an expanded edition, because I'm sure plenty of extra tracks exist.
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------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted By: kirk782
Date Posted: April 01 2025 at 19:03
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Top 5 Favourite Live Prog Albums
1989: ABWH - An Evening of Yes Music Plus - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLesS8G23t0LHpei-6jCPfuB-mgxHzvbYW" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLesS8G23t0LHpei-6jCPfuB-mgxHzvbYW 1974: Barclay James Harvest - Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kyrBzeN9N2cOnVYVoGdMmc3uBfrU6iPtI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kyrBzeN9N2cOnVYVoGdMmc3uBfrU6iPtI 1978: Camel - A Live Record - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m4-adu0ifiojsm-vz-PLACrpKN_AwxEXI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m4-adu0ifiojsm-vz-PLACrpKN_AwxEXI 1973: Genesis - Genesis Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lus98yp-GOfBWcQfVmPP6L1" rel="nofollow - 1976: Renaissance - Live at Carnegie Hall - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lBZgxdlejr_LlB6XiCdeCOmx4vZarpprU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lBZgxdlejr_LlB6XiCdeCOmx4vZarpprU |
I didn't knew there was a whole ABWH project that covered Yes' music as well. I will try and give it a listen soon. Camel is a fantastic instrumental band and two albums of theirs [Snow Goose and Moonmadness, I guess] are quite good though I always felt vocals were their weak part, especially on studio LPs.
Genesis Live is quite good [it opened with Watcher of the Skies, right?]. I haven't listened to 'Barclay James Harvest' and 'Renaissance'. If you could point me to a newbie friendly album that served as an introduction point for the former [I have heard of the latter somewhat, but barely know much about the Barclay James Harvest], it had be good.
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Posted By: kirk782
Date Posted: April 01 2025 at 19:12
moshkito wrote:
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ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition
Guru Guru - Some of the very early stuff with Ax Gernrich doing his crazy stuff, which gave us some stuff in a few albums
Can - Hard to not mention this band live, with Damo ... but sadly, so much of the stuff that is shown up in the past few years, is not complete, so you don't really have a nice view. But the special TRIBUTE to Jaki is a must see for anyone ... it was excellent and it got better with Damo towards the end.
Nektar - Live ... on the first American tour and at the Santa Monica Civic ... they tore up the place. Incredible all around, and it was never shown at all despite there being a lot of video cameras around the floor. My guess is that the material was not quite as close to the albums as it could be, and thus a live album was not done, to prevent the fans from seeing something they did not quite recognize. A bad, very bad, decision. Otherwise "Sounds Like This" is a LIVE album!
Hawkwind - (first) Space Ritual tour, also at the Santa Monica Civic ... insanely good and strong, though it was very loud and roomie had a hard time with it for a week or so.
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Sadly, ELP's first live record didn't resonate with me much. Their second live offering comprised of their own songs suited my tastes better.
I have listened to four albums by Guru guru I think; they have a distinctive guitar prominent sound, right; in the krautrock realm? I am not sure if any of it was live though.
Can can be good.I am still developing appreciation for Damo Suzuki and his style of singing which can be hit or miss, IMO considering the lyrics don't mean much and are quite trite. But their latest archival releases like Live at Keele presented a different side of the band.
I have heard Nektar actually. They are not very popular, I think. I found them okayish and some of their stuff was decent, though I wouldn't personally call it great.
Hawkwind had some great stuff on Space Ritual [and a few fillers as well , IMO; Organ Accumulator anyone?]and it speaks of the band at it's creative powers.
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