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Topic: What is REALLY new in the world of Prog Rock??
Posted By: cstack3
Subject: What is REALLY new in the world of Prog Rock??
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 14:50
Folks, I listen to many of your recommendations, and cherish your knowledge of music!

I'm searching for new, innovative prog....much of what I hear is derivative ("they sound like Yes" etc.)

I've never been able to connect with Magma, who were certainly innovative....

Prog seems to be very formulaic. Drummer, bass player, guitarist, keyboard player, vocalist. This formula only rarely seems to be broken (Fripp's use of three drummers in King Crimson was brilliant!)

What else ya got? Who is shattering boundaries? I look forward to a very active thread!

Thank you, Charles

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 14:54
How about the new Wippy Bonstack?


https://wippybonstack.bandcamp.com/album/tactile-demons


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 15:52
The way you ask I'm not sure whether you just want really new stuff, or whether something that isn't so well known but already around for some time fits the bill as well.

I was and am very impressed by Sonar's minimalist angular approach, but their first album is already from 2011, so new enough?

https://sonar-band.bandcamp.com/album/a-flaw-of-nature

Dawn of Midi (not on PA) are related.

https://dawnofmidi.bandcamp.com/album/dysnomia

Great Wippy Bonstack album by the way. I wouldn't have thought of it in this thread, but certainly under great 2025 albums.

I also found this one pretty unique (2020) and strong:

https://cisnienie.bandcamp.com/album/brass-album

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Posted By: Themistocles
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 15:54
Everything I do is very original so here: https://jeffjahn.bandcamp.com/album/sj

That's as much a curse as it is a blessing... at least Ive figured out what genre it fits into after all the reviews and responses, "Avant Prog."


For other people's work Im really enjoying this bad boy: https://i-voidhangerrecords.bandcamp.com/album/upgrade

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Posted By: oddballava
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 16:09
Maybe check out Trip Lava's new album Otherworlds. https://triplava.bandcamp.com/album/otherworlds


Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 16:24
I don't think this music shatters Boundaries. It just ignores them. Let me know if you think it's derivative of something else, or not. I try to do my own thing.
https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/13-songs-compilation" rel="nofollow - Bakullama 2024-25 Compilation

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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 16:43

In general, I reckon that the most significant new characteristics in modern Prog are much Metal influence, and a good example of that, as well as a fine album, is

Taal (F) - Skymind (2003)





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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 16:47
aaaand it's a "promote your music" thread now

Honestly, as much as I dislike most of their material, I think SLEEP TOKEN is one of the very few guitar bands doing something new. Pretty much like the proggers of the 70s, who were influenced by pop and r&b, Vessel and Co take trap and cloud rap and try to fuse it with djent and alternative metal*. Do I like the result? I absolutely not. Is it original? It absolutely is!

Also it's EXTREMELY popular with people who would've never listened to a 8-min song in their life before if not for SLEEP TOKEN, so let's hope the lads' music can serve as a gateway into older prog for many

*not like such fusion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksQU1KjTyT8" rel="nofollow - hadn't been done before , but not on such scale and not with such obvious hints at how proggy they are


Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 17:08
This Krobak is Really interesting stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFUeijXc0iw&list=RDkFUeijXc0iw&start_radio=1" rel="nofollow - KROBAK

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 17:23
I have a confession.

I just don't view music like this anymore. I don't care if it's "progressive." I don't care if it's something new, pushing boundaries, or complex.

I just like music. It might be completely obscure RPI. It might be the Carpenters. Or AC/DC (Bon era, of course). I listen to tons of late '70s pop songs. Favorite modern rock is The Beths, The Warning, Cherry Glazerr, Starcrawler to name a few.

Don't get me wrong. There are a ton of prog bands I love, but I love them because I like their music. Not because they are progressive, complex, or doing anything "new and groundbreaking." Just don't care about those considerations.

No offense intended. Not trying to diss the thread topic. Just my two cents.

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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 17:27
Originally posted by oddballava oddballava wrote:

Maybe check out Trip Lava's new album Otherworlds. https://triplava.bandcamp.com/album/otherworlds


I gave a quick pass listen to trip lava and liked the avant garde sound. I’ll give it a full listen soon.

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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 17:33
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I don't care if it's "progressive." I don't care if it's something new, pushing boundaries, or complex.
I never cared about this either, I just fell in love with Genesis, Dream Theater and Marillion when I was 15-16 and spent the next 5-6 years of my life trying to find similar stuff musically/emotionally That's why I don't care for tech math djent whatever metal, how many notes they played and how fast they played them - I'd rather listen to a good chorus with a hook, preferably in an interestingly structured non-linear song



Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 17:50
I think that the progressive rock genre itself is, by nature, antiquated. Thus, say, if a brand spankin new prog rock project came out: fresh, modern, experimental, groundbreaking, not sounding like Yes, etc, it wouldn't feel like progressive rock. And I bet that if that hypothetical band didn't flat out stick a big glossy prog rock label onto it works, and let the listeners decide instead, nobody would even think that it belongs to this genre.

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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 18:05
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I think that the progressive rock genre itself is, by nature, antiquated. Thus, say, if a brand spankin new prog rock project came out: fresh, modern, experimental, groundbreaking, not sounding like Yes, etc, it wouldn't feel like progressive rock. And I bet that if that hypothetical band didn't flat out stick a big glossy prog rock label onto it works, and let the listeners decide instead, nobody would even think that it belongs to this genre.


Agreed!   I guess the prog rock designation is just easy to hitch a ride on.

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 18:07
That's an interesting notion. Are there any new bands you're thinking of that fit your theory?

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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 18:14
So many so many. Mine included. It would be unkind of me to mention others by name. When metal hitched its wagon to Prog, I didn’t mind much. Electronica has been riding progs coattails from the beginning… avant garde hangs on by a shoestring… Pop has always found its way onto a Prog album. The WHO aren’t Prog but I’m glad we think they are. ambient, soundscapes, soundtracks, Space rock, English folk, jazz . So many.
No matter though… if you like it, it really shouldn’t matter what genre it falls under.   I come to PA and AP to hear what’s new, not what’s Prog. One of the proggiest albums released this year So far, I found a bit dull. But The proggiest members here love it, and rightly so.

The Best true Prog album I’ve come across this year that I love, is Atomic Times ‘Subsounds’.

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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 19:17
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

That's an interesting notion. Are there any new bands you're thinking of that fit your theory?
For instance: https://lonelyrollingstars.bandcamp.com/album/sugarburger" rel="nofollow - Lonelyrollingstars .

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 21:16
^
Sampled both of their albums and enjoyed them. Pretty cool stuff.

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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 21:57
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

That's an interesting notion. Are there any new bands you're thinking of that fit your theory?
For instance: https://lonelyrollingstars.bandcamp.com/album/sugarburger" rel="nofollow - Lonelyrollingstars .

I recognized the name as a reference to Katamari Damacy, so I'll have to check it out.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 22:59
Not really new but Bent Knee comes to mind. I don't really listen much to groundbreaking kind of prog. If I think of more I'll post them here.

When they first appeared I would say Echolyn and Porcupine Tree didn't sound like other prog. For current bands I am drawing a blank unfortunately.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 22:59
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I think that the progressive rock genre itself is, by nature, antiquated. Thus, say, if a brand spankin new prog rock project came out: fresh, modern, experimental, groundbreaking, not sounding like Yes, etc, it wouldn't feel like progressive rock. And I bet that if that hypothetical band didn't flat out stick a big glossy prog rock label onto it works, and let the listeners decide instead, nobody would even think that it belongs to this genre.
First I was thinking something along those lines. On the other hand I do think there's a myriad bands now considered by many to have a natural place under the "prog umbrella" that if you traveled back to the 1970's, 1980's, 1990's - or even the early 2000's and played them this or that more recent band* now (loosely) associated with Yes etc... as in Classic Progressive Rock - they would think you were out of your mind. Of course I might sometimes question the relevance in regards to some bands/artists myself. Regardless of whether I like them or not.

*as say Swans, black midi, Igorrr, Imperial Triumphant, PoiL, Liturgy, John Zorn, Squarepusher, Les Fragments de la Nuit, Rachel's... I suppose stuff like Radiohead, Tori Amos, Björk and Talk Talk would raise a few eyebrows as well. And the reevaluation of Steely Dan, Supertramp etc... I mean once the incusion of Rush was controversial.

-so how antiqated can it really be?

-As for reccomendations, I don't really have anything I think would please cstack3, as both relevant to his approach - and that feels somewhat new at the same time. Besides I thought adding three drummers were nothing new and kind of gimmicky (like having three mellotrons on stage). All that banging in front of the delicate sounds I wanted to hear - ruined parts of the concert for me.



Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 23:06
Have Squarepusher and Radiohead ever identified as prog bands? From what I've seen they're not universally put into the progressive rock category by their listeners.

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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 04 2025 at 23:13
Saperlipop's post led me to the conclusion that, well, whether a band is prog rock or isn't, provided they don't self-identify as such, can be quite tricky to determine. And it's often dictated by the listeners' preference. Those who really simp for 70's Yes have their own preconceptions of how to define the prog rock genre, while, I dunno, Tool fans for instance, have one too and it's different.

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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 01:06
Thank you!

I record music using electronic toys, running them through guitar FX. I use inflated balloons with a single coin inside, and as I get the coin spinning, I mike it to get some rather amazing, pulsating sounds.

I play guitar leads over loops generated from recordings of planets from NASA:

https://youtu.be/e3fqE01YYWs?si=tL3yK5wT9fVinN8j" rel="nofollow - Jupiter

For guitar, I use a Fernandes guitar with sustainer system, same as Fripp and Hackett. Nice.

None of this has ever been released, I am too busy with my scientific work (I'm a climate scientist who develops greenhouse gas mitigation technology). I have no intention of selling music, but I hope to release some recordings in 2025 or 2026.

What would I like to hear?   How about a band using nothing but bass guitars and drums only? Or 20 electric guitars at once?   SOMETHING besides the tired, old guitar/bass/keyboard/drum/vocals formula. Ugh.




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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 01:10
^ In other words: music bores you

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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 01:18
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ In other words: music bores you


NOT A BIT! I don't listen to Tales from Topographic Oceans, but rather, I study it! Squire used a fretless Guild bass guitar with plectrum to recreated the sound of an orchestra tympani!

You might say that much of the music discussed on PA bores me.

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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 01:21
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

How about the new Wippy Bonstack?


https://wippybonstack.bandcamp.com/album/tactile-demons


Thanks, that was fun!! Now we are talking!!



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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 01:32
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Have Squarepusher and Radiohead ever identified as prog bands? From what I've seen they're not universally put into the progressive rock category by their listeners.
The first part, I've never cared about. Has ever Pink Floyd? I think most adventurous artists are sceptical to any kind of genre slapped onto to their music by others. Nine out of ten will say something like "we don't care about labels" or "it's all just music, man!".

-Also a bit of a stretch from "bands now considered by many to have a natural place under the "prog umbrella" and "(loosely) associated" to some kind of universal argeement.



Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 01:40
Quote -Also a bit of a stretch from "bands now considered by many to have a natural place under the "prog umbrella" and "(loosely) associated" to some kind of universal argeement.
That's exactly my point. There is no clear objective agreement out there in the world.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 01:52
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Have Squarepusher and Radiohead ever identified as prog bands? From what I've seen they're not universally put into the progressive rock category by their listeners.


Nope but neither are Phish, Tool or Muse. And while we're at it there's probably a lot of fans of Pink Floyd, Rush and Genesis who don't know the term prog let alone what it is.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 02:28
''New in the world of prog rock'' is an oxymoron to me. ''Prog'' became something when it could be identified as something. Identifiable music stylistcally can never bee innovative. Music doesn't really evolve either because someone decided to make up some random sh*t and a few fans call it 'innovative'. I stopped worrying about innovation when I realised that all progressive music has orgins and is not truly new. The trick is to recognise that fact not try and subvert it.
Anyway I think Kyros are quite 'innovative' taking a modern commercial aesthetic and marrying it with classic prog ideas. That seems fine to me.


Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 02:30
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

''New in the world of prog rock'' is an oxymoron to me. ''Prog'' became something when it could be identified as something. Identifiable music stylistcally can never bee innovative. Music doesn't really evolve either because someone decided to make up some random sh*t and a few fans call it 'innovative'. I stopped worrying about innovation when I realised that all progressive music has orgins and is not truly new. The trick is to recognise that fact not try and subvert it.
Anyway I think Kyros are quite 'innovative' taking a modern commercial aesthetic and marrying it with classic prog ideas. That seems fine to me.
This. 👏👏👏

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 02:31
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Quote -Also a bit of a stretch from "bands now considered by many to have a natural place under the "prog umbrella" and "(loosely) associated" to some kind of universal argeement.
That's exactly my point. There is no clear objective agreement out there in the world.

Your point is a matter of perspective, and I took the perspecitive of PA's extremely inclusive approach (which I find to be a lot more postive than negative). If we think of Prog as something that was calcified some time in the mid-seventies, Progressive Rock is by nature antiquated, yes. But that doesn't seem to be the leading mindset anywhere. Not on PA, RYM or any of the bigger music communities online that I can think of, really. You'll find it among individuals out there, but they are in a minority. What Progressive Rock is - and can be, changes with the times - and an incusive approach is infact the leading mindset.


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 02:37
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ In other words: music bores you


NOT A BIT! I don't listen to Tales from Topographic Oceans, but rather, I study it! Squire used a fretless Guild bass guitar with plectrum to recreated the sound of an orchestra tympani!

You might say that much of the music discussed on PA bores me.


I was just thinking about what defines music - it's not different sounds, it's notes and melodies. Think Bach.   

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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 04:40
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

What Progressive Rock is - and can be, changes with the times ....

Sure, but if it evolves to something very different from the classics, it's meaningless still to call it "Progressive Rock", as it has become something else.



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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 05:08
^ Anything with progressive in it that doesn't progress is meaningless. Anyway have you noticed that Rock and Pop has changed over the decades? Hip-Hop too. It's still Rock, Pop and Hip-Hop. Jazz has chaned - even JazzRock-fusion has changed. Avant-Garde is almost unrecgonizable:).


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 05:30
^ Different strokes. I'm sure that many prog listeners are content with listening to the same style of music, meaning that they are looking for new music but it needs to fall within a relatively narrow band of styles which they are used to and have come to associate with the label "progressive rock". It excludes some specific styles (e.g. hip-hop, punk, death metal etc.) and of course listeners will reject music that is too familiar with what they already know.

To some extent this is true for all of us, only the details vary - e.g. how wide that band of styles is, and how much/little repetition of familiar elements we can tolerate.

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 06:24
^ I was just arguing against that if something evolves into something very differnt, the term becomes meaningless. Sugarhill Gang and... Clippings sound as differnt to me as Yes and black midi, still they are both Hip-Hop. Diffent kinds of Hip-Hop, but Hip-Hop. And Progressive Rock should by defintition be more flexible than any other "genre of Rock". Rockabilly, not so much. Or, at least that's what makes sense to me.


Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 06:43
Toys and A balloon with a quarter in in it… Have you tried Ukefink? They use toys and plastic ukeleles. Cardboard boxes for drums.
https://youtu.be/HKKAyZGcDes?si=E_6bUmIOoQjwIVUe

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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 06:55
Morphine was pretty innovative with just a 2 string bass and a cocktail drum set. And a saxophone. I suggest the album “Like Swimming”. (Or the song “My Brain’ for a real treat)

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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 07:11
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I have a confession.

I just don't view music like this anymore. I don't care if it's "progressive." I don't care if it's something new, pushing boundaries, or complex.

I just like music. It might be completely obscure RPI. It might be the Carpenters. Or AC/DC (Bon era, of course). I listen to tons of late '70s pop songs. Favorite modern rock is The Beths, The Warning, Cherry Glazerr, Starcrawler to name a few.

Don't get me wrong. There are a ton of prog bands I love, but I love them because I like their music. Not because they are progressive, complex, or doing anything "new and groundbreaking." Just don't care about those considerations.

No offense intended. Not trying to diss the thread topic. Just my two cents.


I love your attitude! and agree with it! An artist might even move away from that which we call "Prog" and still make great music, right?!

I second Jim's motion: I just like music.


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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 07:30
Whenever I get burned out on Rock , Prog, I go to pop hits of the 60’s and 70’s on Pandora. I have a “we five” channel and a spanky and our gang channel that play pop songs from childhood. The songwriting skills of 60s pop is beautiful & fascinating.   Melodies. “you were on my mind”. “Windy” “Lazy Day”.     Very uplifting and expertly done. I do it just to break the rock fatigue I get sometimes.

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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 07:31

About being innovative, what not looks rather derivative from some previous, specific music, that is innovative enough to me, as that's what matters to me.






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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 07:50
This website is very strict on which artists get included and which do not. Regardless of whether one thinks of this as a good thing or not, it can result in users thinking too much in terms of inclusion or exclusion. At AP (or RYM, for that matter) anything can be added, and users who prefer those websites might end up being much more relaxed about these things.

When I listen to new music, I tag it at AP, which includes (optionally) deciding whether it is non-prog, prog-adjacent or prog. I usually assign this without too much deliberation. If it feels "prog" to me, it gets assigned that way. This decision is also completely decoupled from assigning the rating.

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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 08:12
Yeah if you want to find new music (as it is released ) AP is a wonderful website. Each newly released album has a link attached so you can listen. It’s a great way to hear what’s new.And if you find something new you can add it yourself. It’s easy to see that Mike takes his website very seriously and is always improving. RYM is way too restrictive and complicated to list new albums. I tried to list albums on RYM … what a nightmare.

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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 09:07
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

About being innovative, what not looks rather derivative from some previous, specific music, that is innovative enough to me, as that's what matters to me.

For instance, The Snow Goose and Eloy's Ocean are surely influenced by Pink Floyd, but I still love them.



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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 09:49
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

About being innovative, what not looks rather derivative from some previous, specific music, that is innovative enough to me, as that's what matters to me.

For instance, The Snow Goose and Eloy's Ocean are surely influenced by Pink Floyd, but I still love them.




Maybe it's just me but I don't really hear a PF influence on Snow Goose. I'm not sure what influence it is other than maybe classical music but I really don't hear Floyd. I guess we all hear what we hear. You are definitely right about Eloy though especially on Ocean and SC&ME.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 10:48
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Have Squarepusher and Radiohead ever identified as prog bands? From what I've seen they're not universally put into the progressive rock category by their listeners.


Nope but neither are Phish, Tool or Muse. And while we're at it there's probably a lot of fans of Pink Floyd, Rush and Genesis who don't know the term prog let alone what it is.


Tool is categorized as a prog band by many people, and they're on PA.

https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1199" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1199



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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 11:39
Some readers may prefer seeing suggestions posted. It's a great topic, and it would benefit from sticking to it.

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Posted By: Themistocles
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 12:12
Originally posted by Valdez Valdez wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I think that the progressive rock genre itself is, by nature, antiquated. Thus, say, if a brand spankin new prog rock project came out: fresh, modern, experimental, groundbreaking, not sounding like Yes, etc, it wouldn't feel like progressive rock. And I bet that if that hypothetical band didn't flat out stick a big glossy prog rock label onto it works, and let the listeners decide instead, nobody would even think that it belongs to this genre.


Agreed!   I guess the prog rock designation is just easy to hitch a ride on.


agreed, progressive is an attitude for production not so much a genre

that said every artist is in itself a small business and music is so genre dominated





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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 14:17
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Some readers may prefer seeing suggestions posted. It's a great topic, and it would benefit from sticking to it.


Let's see ... "shattering boundaries". I'm struggling to come up with recommendations, having listened to a really wide range of releases over the years especially from the RIO/Avant/Experimental corner of prog, there is hardly anything left that hasn't been done. Even when turning to pure noise, there is a wide variety of artists ...

It's been a long time since I've heard something truly unique. Last year there was Geordie Greep (black midi) who really managed to surprise me. This year Devin Townsend really wowed me with The Moth, but it's not yet out as a formal release. Today I listened to Atomic Time - Subsounds, really nice Floydian mix of prog rock awesomeness. Other than that, I really enjoyed Brass Camel's latest release, they're having a blast of a time just Art Rocking with tremendous groove.

And of course, Igorrr's new release is coming up




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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 14:31
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Some readers may prefer seeing suggestions posted. It's a great topic, and it would benefit from sticking to it.
Why try and kill an actual ongoing discussion on a dying forum? A thread to me is often organic like real life is. You react to a comment and it takes you on a differnt path than the starting point underways. Things happen, and for the most part it's what keeps a thread alive. There's nothing REALLY new that's still Prog Rock anyway. Any geniunely new music in 2025, if it exists, is not Prog Rock - or Rock.


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 14:46
Looking forward to that new Igorrr

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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 15:33

I'd like also to tell that I have a big need for variation too, but I take good care of that need by listening to really many different artists from many different genres and countries, and from all decades since 1950s - I could recommend that.





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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 16:41
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Have Squarepusher and Radiohead ever identified as prog bands? From what I've seen they're not universally put into the progressive rock category by their listeners.


Nope but neither are Phish, Tool or Muse. And while we're at it there's probably a lot of fans of Pink Floyd, Rush and Genesis who don't know the term prog let alone what it is.


Tool is categorized as a prog band by many people, and they're on PA.

https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1199" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1199




Ok, so what if I took out Tool and put in Primus instead.


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 17:02
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Some readers may prefer seeing suggestions posted. It's a great topic, and it would benefit from sticking to it.
Why try and kill an actual ongoing discussion on a dying forum? A thread to me is often organic like real life is. You react to a comment and it takes you on a differnt path than the starting point underways. Things happen, and for the most part it's what keeps a thread alive. There's nothing REALLY new that's still Prog Rock anyway. Any geniunely new music in 2025, if it exists, is not Prog Rock - or Rock.

My intention was to encourage posting music that fits the criterion in the first place! It may happen that people forget that there was a worthwhile topic to begin with.

Other than that, the supposedly "dying" status of the forum in my view isn't good enough a justification to derail a thread, but people will talk about what they want to talk about anyway, so I am in no danger of killing anything.

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 17:24
This came out last year but I think it fits the topic. Richard Henshall - "Mu"




Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 17:44
EXCELLENT! This is the response I was hoping to see!! Not just endless banter about "Does Rush suck??" or "Which side of TFTO is worse!" but some REAL deep-digging into the topic!!

My late friend, Colin Carter of FLASH, recorded some really nice music before he died, I love his final effort!   He was always known more for his vocals, but the man had some nice composing skills and guitar chops! See the link to "Tracks in Space!"

https://colinflashcarter.bandcamp.com/album/tracks-in-space" rel="nofollow - Colin Carter "Tracks in Space"



https://www.progarchives.com/forum/uploads/25060/132029488_3730901233599617_2013298477956240667_n.jpeg" rel="nofollow - Collin Carter

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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 18:14
Are we derailing this thread, though? The semi-tangential discussions are after all still related to the subject of "what is or isn't new". I'd say it is on-topic. Besides, I personally can't post a lot of examples that fit cstack's criteria, simply because, all the recent rock music I personally listen to with pleasure (yes, modern bands) is either timeless or retro sounding.

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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 19:01
RIBS
Junk Dynasty Leaderboard
https://ribsband.bandcamp.com/track/night-hoss

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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 19:09
DC Maxwell
https://dcmaxwell.bandcamp.com/album/lone-rider

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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 19:19
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Are we derailing this thread, though? The semi-tangential discussions are after all still related to the subject of "what is or isn't new". I'd say it is on-topic. Besides, I personally can't post a lot of examples that fit cstack's criteria, simply because, all the recent rock music I personally listen to with pleasure (yes, modern bands) is either timeless or retro sounding.


Call me Charles, please!

I just wanted to stimulate some conversation. PA seems to wallow a lot in the music of the 1970s, and there is nothing wrong with that, but I consider rock music and, particularly "progressive rock," to be a vital and living art-form.

My query "What is REALLY new...?" includes instrumentation, techniques, incorporation of different cultural twists etc. The amazing guitarist Fareed Haque of Chicago has explored new ground with his various projects (Fareed Haque Group, Garaj Mahal, Math Games etc.

He can blaze like John McLaughlin on lead guitar, it's fun to watch!

Here, dig his stuff, and look him up on YouTube:

https://fareed.com" rel="nofollow - Fareed Haque Website

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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 19:22
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Are we derailing this thread, though? The semi-tangential discussions are after all still related to the subject of "what is or isn't new". I'd say it is on-topic. Besides, I personally can't post a lot of examples that fit cstack's criteria, simply because, all the recent rock music I personally listen to with pleasure (yes, modern bands) is either timeless or retro sounding.


Call me Charles, please!

I just wanted to stimulate some conversation. PA seems to wallow a lot in the music of the 1970s, and there is nothing wrong with that, but I consider rock music and, particularly "progressive rock," to be a vital and living art-form.

My query "What is REALLY new...?" includes instrumentation, techniques, incorporation of different cultural twists etc. The amazing guitarist Fareed Haque of Chicago has explored new ground with his various projects (Fareed Haque Group, Garaj Mahal, Math Games etc.   Fareed has a Pakistani father and Chilean mother, so he blends aspects of those cultures into his music! His live music will have tablas, turntables, and all sorts of wild stuff!

He can blaze like John McLaughlin on lead guitar, it's fun to watch!

Here, dig his stuff, and look him up on YouTube:

https://fareed.com" rel="nofollow - Fareed Haque Website


Check out his live performance with CA Guitar Trio!


https://youtu.be/khXEktAJcGA?si=CWInxBuMxQmRWcQj" rel="nofollow - CA Guitar Trio Dance of Maya

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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 19:37
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

What would I like to hear?   How about a band using nothing but bass guitars and drums only? Or 20 electric guitars at once?   SOMETHING besides the tired, old guitar/bass/keyboard/drum/vocals formula. Ugh.


Here are 3 bass players and 1 drummer.

https://bassinvadersband.bandcamp.com/album/bass-invaders" rel="nofollow - https://bassinvadersband.bandcamp.com/album/bass-invaders


Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 19:46
He sounds like John McLaughlin … pretty sure I cannot help you. Good luck in your quest.

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 20:09
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I have a confession.

I just don't view music like this anymore. I don't care if it's "progressive." I don't care if it's something new, pushing boundaries, or complex.

I just like music. It might be completely obscure RPI. It might be the Carpenters. Or AC/DC (Bon era, of course). I listen to tons of late '70s pop songs. Favorite modern rock is The Beths, The Warning, Cherry Glazerr, Starcrawler to name a few.

Don't get me wrong. There are a ton of prog bands I love, but I love them because I like their music. Not because they are progressive, complex, or doing anything "new and groundbreaking." Just don't care about those considerations.

No offense intended. Not trying to diss the thread topic. Just my two cents.


I love your attitude! and agree with it! An artist might even move away from that which we call "Prog" and still make great music, right?!

I second Jim's motion: I just like music.


Right on! Thanks, Drew!



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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 20:20
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

What would I like to hear?   How about a band using nothing but bass guitars and drums only? Or 20 electric guitars at once?   SOMETHING besides the tired, old guitar/bass/keyboard/drum/vocals formula. Ugh.


Here are 3 bass players and 1 drummer.

https://bassinvadersband.bandcamp.com/album/bass-invaders" rel="nofollow - https://bassinvadersband.bandcamp.com/album/bass-invaders


I liked the Bass Invaders! Thanks.

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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 21:14
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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 21:29
This thread has me thinking that maybe we are spoiled. We’ve heard some of the best music ever made from the late 60s to the present, and like addicts we are searching for a better high all the time. Are we jaded?

If anything really groundbreaking occurs we will always try to compare it to the best music ever made and find it lacking. Also, if it’s new and groundbreaking it will probably be created by teenagers or very young men and women, as it has historically. And although it may end up the big thing we will still be comparing it to the massive amount of great music we’ve been accustomed to.   This is my own opinion I’m 67 yrs old and have heard so much great music in my lifetime… I’ve lived through 5 or 6 groundbreaking eras. 3 of which I connected with.   I will continue to listen around but I am definitely spoiled when it comes to music. bands have come and gone so fast, I have a hard time remembering what I liked last week.     Listening to music shouldn’t be a chore. I’ll just be happy if I hear something that moves me. Prog or otherwise. I could make a long list of bands and artists so awesome that they have practically ruined my inclination to search and find something new. It will happen by accident one day as it has in the past.

The bar has been set pretty high in the prog genre by the big 5 and we are still raving about them after 50 years and there is a good reason for that. Steven Wilson came close, he has been celebrated here at PA for a while now and he has spawned many imitators.

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 06 2025 at 01:20
^ This week I listened to Tarkus again after a long time. I also listened to several other new releases from 2025, and Tarkus did not receive the highest rating.

I was born in the 70s and by the time I was in my teens, the 70s were long gone. The big five rank highly in my book, but I do not think they made the "best" music ever. In AP terminology, these iconic releases are surely S-tier, but to me many post 80s releases are even better still.



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