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Topic: Battle of Epping Forest or I Know What I like
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: Battle of Epping Forest or I Know What I like
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 08:53
My Yes poll from yesterday got me thinking about similar matchups and this one came to mind.



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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 10:09
27 views and none of you have heard or have an opinion on these songs? Really?


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 11:37
Nice one. Epping Forest. Both are quite a bit behind the best material on SEBTP, but Epping Forest is fine. IKWIL is OK but not great.

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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 11:49
I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 11:57
Both.
Different tunes for different moods.


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Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 12:29
Neither - I never could get into Genesis - there goes my prog credentials.

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Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 13:00
Battle of Epping Forest. One of my top 5 all-time favorite tracks from Genesis off of my favorite album from them.


Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 13:01
In spite of its silly middle section, "Battle of Epping Forest" should not be thought of as a joke/goofball song. When Peter intones:

"There's no one left alive - must be a draw."

...we know this is about a lot more than everyday London gang fights, and this song receives my vote in this poll.

I do love "I Know What I Like", but it was obviously conceived as a Beatle pastiche/hit single attempt.


Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 13:04
Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

In spite of its silly middle section, "Battle of Epping Forest" should not be thought of as a joke/goofball song. When Peter intones:

"There's no one left alive - must be a draw."

...we know this is about a lot more than everyday London gang fights, and this song receives my vote in this poll.

I do love "I Know What I Like", but it was obviously conceived as a Beatle pastiche/hit single attempt.


Love the lyrics to Epping Forest.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 14:15
I Like I Know What I like... but I'd rather pull a wisdom tooth than listen through Battle of Epping Forest ever again.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 14:38
Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:

Battle of Epping Forest. One of my top 5 all-time favorite tracks from Genesis off of my favorite album from them.


Top 5, not sure but top 3 of SEBTP (ahead of Firth), for sure

Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

In spite of its silly middle section, "Battle of Epping Forest" should not be thought of as a joke/goofball song. When Peter intones:

"There's no one left alive - must be a draw."

...we know this is about a lot more than everyday London gang fights, and this song receives my vote in this poll.

I do love "I Know What I Like", but it was obviously conceived as a Beatle pastiche/hit single attempt.


Are there no "silly passages" on Supper's Ready?

Although maybe a little too wordy (thus not giving enough space for instrumental interplay), this is a mammothntrack in terms od songwriting (both lyrics and music)




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prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
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prefer lifting our pen
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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 15:28
This match sounds a bit like "expansion vs concision" to me. Right now I feel expansive, so I vote Epping Forest.


Posted By: Moonshake
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 15:54
Epping Forest


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 16:26
Epping.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 16:39
Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Neither - I never could get into Genesis - there goes my prog credentials.



Only if it's only the PG era you don't like.


Posted By: Hector Enrique
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 18:07
1. Battle of Epping Forest
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2. I Know What I Like

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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 18:17


As a matter of fact, these two are my least favorite tracks on SEbtB, along with More Fool Me.

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 18:54
Neither. I dislike both.

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 19:01
"The Battle of Epping Forest" is the most fun Genesis song in existence.

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 19:30
Definitely I know what I like. It's a great quirky pop song, while long stretches of Epping forest drive me crazy in all the worst ways


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 20:00
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

My Yes poll from yesterday got me thinking about similar matchups and this one came to mind.


On both polls I have voted for the song that is losing by a lot.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 05 2025 at 21:04
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

"The Battle of Epping Forest" is the most fun Genesis song in existence.



No, that would be Supper's Ready. You can't get more fun than "Mum diddly washing" and "Dad diddly office." ;)


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 06 2025 at 01:34
I Know What I Like in My Wardrobe (hangers full of Hawaiian shirts)


Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: August 06 2025 at 04:45
IKWIL(IYW) >>> TBOEF

It’s very hard to pick a favourite Genesis album (from about 5 albums), but if it wasn’t for Epping Forest it would EASILY be SEBTP….

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Posted By: Wounded_Land
Date Posted: August 06 2025 at 08:13
Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:

Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

In spite of its silly middle section, "Battle of Epping Forest" should not be thought of as a joke/goofball song. When Peter intones:

"There's no one left alive - must be a draw."

...we know this is about a lot more than everyday London gang fights, and this song receives my vote in this poll.

I do love "I Know What I Like", but it was obviously conceived as a Beatle pastiche/hit single attempt.


Love the lyrics to Epping Forest.


Agreed. Epping always came off to me as a very engaging piece of music, very wordy, but in a good way; the rest of the album is fairly lyrically sparse, so Epping seemed like a balance to all that. Always really loved that song.


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: August 06 2025 at 10:08
Not a mistery: I'm not a Genesis fan.
Anyway if I'm forced to listen to SEBTP I prefer Epping Forest

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Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: August 06 2025 at 10:49
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Neither - I never could get into Genesis - there goes my prog credentials.



Only if it's only the PG era you don't like.


Well I do recognise that Genesis (especially the Gabriel-Hackett era) are one of the greatest prog bands of all time, and well deserving of their place in the 'Big Six' but there's something overall about their sound (which I cannot put my finger on) that just doesn't quite click with me.

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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: August 06 2025 at 15:03
Epping Forest.... fab lyrics!

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 06 2025 at 23:47
Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Neither - I never could get into Genesis - there goes my prog credentials.



Only if it's only the PG era you don't like.


Well I do recognise that Genesis (especially the Gabriel-Hackett era) are one of the greatest prog bands of all time, and well deserving of their place in the 'Big Six' but there's something overall about their sound (which I cannot put my finger on) that just doesn't quite click with me.



there are some odd sonic/studio production choices throughout the Gabe years. Some tracks feel/sound weird , compared to ELP, Crimson, Tull, Yes's classic albums of the same years .

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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 00:06
Agree, A murky muffled sort of sound. Not on PGs solo albums I don’t think. Trick of the tail sounds fine.

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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 01:49
I cannot separate the two - they both come from 'that' album I first heard as a 12 year old and I entered a new world...


Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 03:03
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Neither - I never could get into Genesis - there goes my prog credentials.



Only if it's only the PG era you don't like.


Well I do recognise that Genesis (especially the Gabriel-Hackett era) are one of the greatest prog bands of all time, and well deserving of their place in the 'Big Six' but there's something overall about their sound (which I cannot put my finger on) that just doesn't quite click with me.



there are some odd sonic/studio production choices throughout the Gabe years. Some tracks feel/sound weird , compared to ELP, Crimson, Tull, Yes's classic albums of the same years .


I'd not considered that.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 04:52
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:



As a matter of fact, these two are my least favorite tracks on SEbtB, along with More Fool Me.


this


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 10:25
Epping Forest by a noselength.

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 07 2025 at 10:56
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Epping Forest by a noselength.


hi Pinocchio



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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword



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