Soundgarden- Wicked or S***?
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Topic: Soundgarden- Wicked or S***?
Posted By: Peace Frog
Subject: Soundgarden- Wicked or S***?
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 16:04
Does anyone else think that grunge is ignored, and nobody plays it anymore? Any prog fans who also like grunge, or do you all think it's stupid? Soundgarden is just about my favourite band after Pink Floyd and Porcupine Tree. Chris Cornell is just about the greatest vocalist ever,(for my second favourite I'd have to say Raine Maida of Our Lady Peace, and then dead vocalists Jim Morrison and Kurt Cobain, and then probably Robert Plant would be third favourite living vocalist)
Who hearts grunge? Anybody?
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 16:15
I like Soundgarden' Superunknown album (Black Hole Sun and Spoon Man)
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 16:17
Andrea Cortese wrote:
I like Soundgarden' Superunknown album (Black Hole Sun and Spoon Man) |
That and Alice in Chains' "Dirt" are masterpieces.
Never thought much of Nirvana and Pearl Jam, though.
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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 17:24
Don`t like soundgarden
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 17:28
Soundgarden are not Grunge ... they're an Alternative Rock band. They've always been much more inventive than Grundge bands like Pearl Jam. Superunknown is really experimental and even a little Avant-Garde, and Down on the Upside is a really magnificent Rock album. Badmotorfinger is my favorite though ... Rusty Cage RULES!
BTW: Temple of the Dog is a truly divine Alternative Rock album ... it features both Chris Cornell and Eddie Vedder.
PeaceFrog: Check out Cornell's solo album Euphoria Morning, if you don't know it already. Cornell's finest hour!
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Posted By: porter
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 17:37
I like their two last albums so much, I think Superunknown is a milestone in rock, one of the very last examples of original rock in the 90's. If you notice, they had a peculiarity: their songs were 90 % odd time signatures!!! I really like that. And the band shines in many places, Chris Cornell with incredible voice and skills, Kim Thayil on guitars, Matt Cameron an awesome drummer. I agree that they're not really grunge. Some friends of mine even consider them METAL!!!
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 18:05
Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were two of the best bands to come out of Seattle.They blow Nirvana and Pearl Jam away.
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Posted By: Angeldust
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 18:48
I think that grunge is not a music genre after all....These bands had clearly many differences..From Alice in chains to Soundgarden and from Mudhoney to Pearl Jam...It's modern hard rock actually with a different point of view..I think it's great...But what's sad is that you see bands today that haven't realised that it's all gone now..If you don't evolve something it's going to die...That's what happened in my opinion..But anyway who am i to judge...Soundgarden are great ,propably the most metal-influenced band (that supposed to play grunge) from Seattle....
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 20:20
Does anybody like the lesser know Seattle bands like Mother Love Bone,Mudhoney and Green River?
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 20:31
Or to outobscure everyone, Malfunkshun
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Posted By: Angeldust
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 20:37
Mudhoney really rule...
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Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 21:44
I like Alice in Chains, but I can't stand Soundgarden.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 21:45
ROBERT CORNELL IS A GOD!
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Posted By: yargh
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 22:01
This is a perfect example of how genres can confuse and distort. The term "grunge" came about to describe hard rock music that came out at a particular time (late '80s-through-early '90s) by bands who looked the part as much as sounded like it. Initially, "grunge" was a label put on everything heavy that wasn't heavy metal. Typically they were in the Seattle scene, but not necessarily. These guys wore flannel, had sideburns... played in jeans and Chuck Taylors instead of tight leather pants and makeup... grunge. There *was* a conscious effort by many of these bands to distance themselves from the increasingly silly, uncool and artistically bankrupt genre of heavy metal. Soundgarden basically *were* heavy metal, except for their image. Asking why people don't "play grunge" anymore is pointless, because grugne isn't really a musical genre.
Neil Young was considered the "godfather of grunge" because he also played heavy music (with Crazy Horse) that wasn't heavy metal. Heretofore unclassifaible bands like Sonic Youth were considered a part of the grunge movement by association, although they aren't considered grunge in hindsight.
In my own opinion, Soundgarden made one really good album (Superunknown), Alice in Chains made none, Mudhoney made several, Stone Temple Pilots made none, Pearl Jam made two and Nirvana made one. And don't forget Dinosaur Jr, whose first four albums are really good, IMO. Gotta love the sludgey cover of that Peter Frampton tune.
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 06:39
I bought a certain game called Road Rush for pc and the sountrack for the intro was soundgarden and i went "what was that?" so i later found out it was soundgarden and i got some of their songs...great stuff
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 06:52
yargh wrote:
This is a perfect example of how genres can confuse and distort. The term "grunge" came about to describe hard rock music that came out at a particular time (late '80s-through-early '90s) by bands who looked the part as much as sounded like it. Initially, "grunge" was a label put on everything heavy that wasn't heavy metal. Typically they were in the Seattle scene, but not necessarily. These guys wore flannel, had sideburns... played in jeans and Chuck Taylors instead of tight leather pants and makeup... grunge. There *was* a conscious effort by many of these bands to distance themselves from the increasingly silly, uncool and artistically bankrupt genre of heavy metal. Soundgarden basically *were* heavy metal, except for their image. Asking why people don't "play grunge" anymore is pointless, because grugne isn't really a musical genre.
Neil Young was considered the "godfather of grunge" because he also played heavy music (with Crazy Horse) that wasn't heavy metal. Heretofore unclassifaible bands like Sonic Youth were considered a part of the grunge movement by association, although they aren't considered grunge in hindsight.
In my own opinion, Soundgarden made one really good album (Superunknown), Alice in Chains made none, Mudhoney made several, Stone Temple Pilots made none, Pearl Jam made two and Nirvana made one. And don't forget Dinosaur Jr, whose first four albums are really good, IMO. Gotta love the sludgey cover of that Peter Frampton tune.
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You should really check out Temple of the Dog ... IMO it's THE brilliant grunge album. It's not really grunge to me, it toys with many genres ... but I guess that considering the time it was released and the artists that participated, I guess you could call it grunge.
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 08:27
yargh wrote:
This is a perfect example of how genres can confuse and distort. The term "grunge" came about to describe hard rock music that came out at a particular time (late '80s-through-early '90s) by bands who looked the part as much as sounded like it. Initially, "grunge" was a label put on everything heavy that wasn't heavy metal. Typically they were in the Seattle scene, but not necessarily. These guys wore flannel, had sideburns... played in jeans and Chuck Taylors instead of tight leather pants and makeup... grunge. There *was* a conscious effort by many of these bands to distance themselves from the increasingly silly, uncool and artistically bankrupt genre of heavy metal. Soundgarden basically *were* heavy metal, except for their image. Asking why people don't "play grunge" anymore is pointless, because grugne isn't really a musical genre.
Neil Young was considered the "godfather of grunge" because he also played heavy music (with Crazy Horse) that wasn't heavy metal. Heretofore unclassifaible bands like Sonic Youth were considered a part of the grunge movement by association, although they aren't considered grunge in hindsight.
In my own opinion, Soundgarden made one really good album (Superunknown), Alice in Chains made none, Mudhoney made several, Stone Temple Pilots made none, Pearl Jam made two and Nirvana made one. And don't forget Dinosaur Jr, whose first four albums are really good, IMO. Gotta love the sludgey cover of that Peter Frampton tune. | Have you listened to any AIC EPs? Much better than any of their LPs, I'd say. Dirt's good in places but inconsistent and the others I'll like maybe one track off, but the EPs are both(?) top notch all the way through. Good call on Dinosaur Jr
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Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 08:47
Love Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Mother Love Bone and Temple of the Dog. I have quite a few Pearl Jam albums as well, but hardly ever listen to them anymore as the band ran out of ideas after No Code.
I was lucky enough to get to see Soundgarden live during their last European tour, they played in Oslo about 6 months before they split up. Awesome concert
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Posted By: yargh
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 09:49
goose wrote:
| Have you listened to any AIC EPs? Much better than any of their LPs, I'd say. Dirt's good in places but inconsistent and the others I'll like maybe one track off, but the EPs are both(?) top notch all the way through. Good call on Dinosaur Jr [/QUOTE]
I don't hate AIC or anything, I just was never 'wowed' by them. Have I heard all their EPs? It's been a long time since the early '90s, but I doubt it. I know I heard Jar of Flies and I think that's an EP.
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 12:20
Fair enough, but if you ever see "Sap" (and especially the track "Brother") around give it a listen - it might be an acoustic EP (I can't remember offhand), but it's far, far better than their pretty dire acoustic album, I guess because they were specifically written for acoustic guitars.
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Posted By: jefmoret
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 12:27
Not a big grunge fan, but Soundgarden are amazing. More intelligent
songwriting than what is found in the works of their "peers"...let's
see AIC try to play in 11/8.
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Posted By: Peace Frog
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 13:44
Soundgarden have deep lyrics and amazing vocals and all that jazz.
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 15:12
jefmoret wrote:
Not a big grunge fan, but Soundgarden are amazing. More intelligent
songwriting than what is found in the works of their "peers"...let's
see AIC try to play in 11/8.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 16:53
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
yargh wrote:
This is a perfect example of how genres can confuse and distort. The term "grunge" came about to describe hard rock music that came out at a particular time (late '80s-through-early '90s) by bands who looked the part as much as sounded like it. Initially, "grunge" was a label put on everything heavy that wasn't heavy metal. Typically they were in the Seattle scene, but not necessarily. These guys wore flannel, had sideburns... played in jeans and Chuck Taylors instead of tight leather pants and makeup... grunge. There *was* a conscious effort by many of these bands to distance themselves from the increasingly silly, uncool and artistically bankrupt genre of heavy metal. Soundgarden basically *were* heavy metal, except for their image. Asking why people don't "play grunge" anymore is pointless, because grugne isn't really a musical genre.
Neil Young was considered the "godfather of grunge" because he also played heavy music (with Crazy Horse) that wasn't heavy metal. Heretofore unclassifaible bands like Sonic Youth were considered a part of the grunge movement by association, although they aren't considered grunge in hindsight.
In my own opinion, Soundgarden made one really good album (Superunknown), Alice in Chains made none, Mudhoney made several, Stone Temple Pilots made none, Pearl Jam made two and Nirvana made one. And don't forget Dinosaur Jr, whose first four albums are really good, IMO. Gotta love the sludgey cover of that Peter Frampton tune.
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You should really check out Temple of the Dog ... IMO it's THE brilliant grunge album. It's not really grunge to me, it toys with many genres ... but I guess that considering the time it was released and the artists that participated, I guess you could call it grunge.
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I agree,Temple of the Dog is an amazing album.
Do you know that the whole album is a tribute to Andrew Wood,the singer of Mother Love Bone,who died of a heroin OD just pryor to MLB breaking big?
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 17:27
^ no, I didn't know that. Sad story ...
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 17:32
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ no, I didn't know that. Sad story ... |
Very.Knowing that puts a lot of the songs on the album into perspective.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 17:35
^ yes, the albums kind of stands out from the usual grunge albums, it's much deeper and more spiritual. Say Hello To Heaven, Reach Down ... awesome songs.
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 19:36
TheProgtologist wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
yargh wrote:
This is a perfect example of how genres can confuse and distort. The term "grunge" came about to describe hard rock music that came out at a particular time (late '80s-through-early '90s) by bands who looked the part as much as sounded like it. Initially, "grunge" was a label put on everything heavy that wasn't heavy metal. Typically they were in the Seattle scene, but not necessarily. These guys wore flannel, had sideburns... played in jeans and Chuck Taylors instead of tight leather pants and makeup... grunge. There *was* a conscious effort by many of these bands to distance themselves from the increasingly silly, uncool and artistically bankrupt genre of heavy metal. Soundgarden basically *were* heavy metal, except for their image. Asking why people don't "play grunge" anymore is pointless, because grugne isn't really a musical genre.
Neil Young was considered the "godfather of grunge" because he also played heavy music (with Crazy Horse) that wasn't heavy metal. Heretofore unclassifaible bands like Sonic Youth were considered a part of the grunge movement by association, although they aren't considered grunge in hindsight.
In my own opinion, Soundgarden made one really good album (Superunknown), Alice in Chains made none, Mudhoney made several, Stone Temple Pilots made none, Pearl Jam made two and Nirvana made one. And don't forget Dinosaur Jr, whose first four albums are really good, IMO. Gotta love the sludgey cover of that Peter Frampton tune.
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You should really check out Temple of the Dog ... IMO it's THE brilliant grunge album. It's not really grunge to me, it toys with many genres ... but I guess that considering the time it was released and the artists that participated, I guess you could call it grunge.
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I agree,Temple of the Dog is an amazing album.
Do you know that the whole album is a tribute to Andrew Wood,the singer of Mother Love Bone,who died of a heroin OD just pryor to MLB breaking big? | The same Andrew Wood who formerly sang for Malfunkshun! A real loss to rock music
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Posted By: Runaway
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 20:06
Grunge is awesome! Temple Of The Dog is amazing!!!!! Soundgarden too!!! Nirvana and Pearl Jam too! Although I haven't heard Alice In Chains...
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 21:25
Runaway wrote:
Grunge is awesome! Temple Of The Dog is amazing!!!!! Soundgarden too!!! Nirvana and Pearl Jam too! Although I haven't heard Alice In Chains... |
Check out Alice in Chains cd "Dirt".
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Posted By: Badabec
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 15:11
Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains are real good stuff. 
My favourite song of soundgarden is "The day I tried to live".
Chris Cornell has a great voice.
I was sad when hearing him singing for audioslave which is a real bad band I think.
Maybe he'll do some soundgarden-kind stuff again.
Would be great!
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 15:31
Badabec wrote:
Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains are real good stuff. 
My favourite song of soundgarden is "The day I tried to live".
Chris Cornell has a great voice.
I was sad when hearing him singing for audioslave which is a real bad band I think.
Maybe he'll do some soundgarden-kind stuff again.
Would be great!
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Be sure to check out his excellent solo album "Euphoria Morning". Not at all like Soundgarden, very Avant-Garde.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 20:36
Badabec wrote:
Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains are real good stuff. 
My favourite song of soundgarden is "The day I tried to live". Chris Cornell has a great voice. I was sad when hearing him singing for audioslave which is a real bad band I think. Maybe he'll do some soundgarden-kind stuff again. Would be great!
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Do you know Chris Cornell's brother Peter sings for the prog band Somnambulist?
They are listed in the archives,check them out.
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 20:54
I'm not a grunge fan (my kids are) but I like many stuff from Alice In Chains and some stuff from Pearl Jam and Soundgarden. That's all folks!
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Posted By: Bobby
Date Posted: November 24 2005 at 13:00
I think grunge is ignored a bit in the mainstream. It mostly lives on through Kurt Cobain it seems. Sound Garden is okay, but in my opinion Alice In Chains is the best "grunge" band ever to exist, even though I think they aren't truly grunge, more like a bridge that connects metal and grunge.
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Posted By: Badabec
Date Posted: November 24 2005 at 15:05
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Badabec wrote:
Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains are real good stuff. 
My favourite song of soundgarden is "The day I tried to live".
Chris Cornell has a great voice.
I was sad when hearing him singing for audioslave which is a real bad band I think.
Maybe he'll do some soundgarden-kind stuff again.
Would be great!
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Be sure to check out his excellent solo album "Euphoria Morning". Not at all like Soundgarden, very Avant-Garde.
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I'll do!
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Posted By: Badabec
Date Posted: November 24 2005 at 15:07
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