Pathetic bands
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Topic: Pathetic bands
Posted By: el böthy
Subject: Pathetic bands
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:22
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Ok, this thread is kinda cruel... Do you know a band which is really sad and pathetic in the way that, either their music suck and they think its great, or that they have done so many mistakes in their carrer that you cant do anything else that shake your head and say "my God..." ??? Of course there are all the comerical driven pop bands, but Im talking about musicians and/or bands that write their own stuff and so on... For me its Kiss and Fleedwood Mac...I saw a program about Kiss last night...they have a comic book about them, their music is soooooooo stupid...and they even did a kinda Scooby Doo movie...need I say more? And as for Fleedwood Mac, they started out as a Ok blues band...what happend? I cant think of anything positiv about their line up without Peter Green...but the worst thing...Stevie Nicks...uuuuu...how sad... ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:34
| Kiss did a prog album apparently, Music for the Elder or whatever... Has anyone ever heard it? |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:37
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i dont know that album... and for me Kiss isnt a pathetic band.... obviously is not a great band... but i dont know .. i think there are a lot of worse bands... let me think... ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:40
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Sorry, I think Rumours is one of the best albums ever recorded and Mirage is also excellent. Their early Pete Green stuff was also very good. I don't like this negative stuff. Let's talk about bands we like. |
Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:40
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Fleetwood mac... Bare Trees/Future Games Kiln House and Then Play on? Well, Bare Trees and Future Games are PHENOMINAL albums...two of my all time absolute favorites, and kiln and then play on are also enjoyable. Green wasnt in Trees or Games, and that was Kirwin and his epic time with fleetwood. -------------  "Only the sun knew why"
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Posted By: Gog/Magog
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:43
Eurythmics...rubbish rubbish rubbish
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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:46
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there are so many pathetic bands...lol Well, like REAL bands its hard to say, but stuff like Green Day, backstreet boys, and all that rubbish...MISERABLE!!! But a real band that i cant stand...PRobly something like Iron and WIne or some indie stuff like Cursive, or BrightB Eyes ------------- "Only the sun knew why"
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:47
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Henry Cow.......pretentious nonsense Art Zoyd and Univers Zero...that's how RIO is supposed to sound ------------- 
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Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:48
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Any pop stars who get record deals because of connections.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:49
Don't forget about "Kiss saves Santa"! |
el böthy wrote:Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:52
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Certainly NO band in prog I could ever call 'pathetic'. |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:53
I think I'll have to disagree with you on that one. I'll put my vote in for Styx  ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:58
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:09
Quick, to the Kissmovil!!! Wait a minute...everybody knows dinosaurs hate guitar solos! jejejeje...thats a great show...you are talking about the show Famaly Guy...right?
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:13
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Green day/good charlotte/blink 182 and other mtv crap has a lot of fans, being utterly pathetic in everything ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:19
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Bee Gees, James Last, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit PATHETIC ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:21
| Rhapsody... |
Posted By: Flip_Stone
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:23
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I disagree highly with attacking Kiss and Fleetwood Mac. Both bands have long careers with many albums and many fans. How about going after "bands" from the 1980's, like Milli Vanilla, Culture Club, Eurymics, Michael Jackson, Madonna, and crap like that. There were tons of lame bands back then.
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Posted By: batoruco
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:26
Pathetic is an overabused word...... those bands I dislike.... others might like... I myself have finally loved some bands I used to hate when I was young... and presently hate some bands I used to love!  ------------- .... only to find out The Master's name! |
Posted By: yargh
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:29
Gee, what are the odds that this thread will end peacefully? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:34
In what way are Green day not a real band? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:37
Nah, they're real, they just suck so much that some people think it was just a nightmare ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:39
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Okay, here we go ...
Starcastle - Can there be a worse band associated with prog? I think not. Bay City Rollers - So bad, I think they were even embarrassed. Green Day - 
GTR - Um ... okay. Styx -  They call THAT prog?
Beastie Boys - They call THAT music?
Sweet - Remember them? I didn't think so. Bachman Turner Overdrive - Even their name turns my stomach.
Yes (Open Your Eyes) - It's a darn good thing we're all entitled to a mistake or two. ELP (Love Beach ) - Same as above. Motley Crue - If those guys aren't embarrased, they damn-well should be. Vanilla Ice - Let's all just sit back and laugh for a while. Milli Vanilli - Go ahead, keep laughing. |
Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:41
Not their first album "In The Garden" (1981). Very good pastoral neo- psych (especially the singles "Never Gonna Cry Again" and "Belinda"), with CAN's Hölgar Czukay and Jaki Liebezeit providing much of the backing. |
Posted By: yargh
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:42
| ^ Can't agree with the Beastie Boys. I'd rate them among the top bands, ever. Most of the rest of it, though... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:45
That I am, my second favourite show behind another special animated family. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:51
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:59
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Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac is a great guitarist, listen to the songs "Big Love" and "Go Insane" I'm not a big Fleetwood Mac fan but some of their stuff is quite good, good pop music to say the least. ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 19:42
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...mmm...I really shoulndt have picked out Kiss and Fleedwood Mac for this right? jejeje, well, thats what I think!
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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 19:49
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Pop, Power Pop (punk-pop and emo), and "gangster" rap are all horrible excuses for music. As for prog, I never liked Styx or The Mars Volta at all, but they are far from pathetic. ------------- 
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Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 19:57
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Hmmm...talkin' 'bout, say, Lindsey Lohan, Hilary Duff or maybe Ashlee Simpson? lol ------------- Some world views are spacious, and some are merely spaced... |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 19:59
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Phil Collins, need I say more? Mike and the Mechanics (I know I know, they're a good band, not pathetic, but I just don't like it) Post Peter Green Fleetwood Mac (except the stuff with Danny Kirwan on). Iron Maiden (I really don't like them, sorry - seeing that clip of them at Ozzfest really put me off once and for all) Status Quo (except "Pictures of Matchstick Men", that's not bad) U2 - bland bland bland Simply Red (Mick Hucknall, good music taste, but his voice...) Green Day, Finch (they're first album anyhow, emotastic), Blink 182, Limp Bizkit (what is that all about?), Eminem, 50 Cent, Nelly... and everybodies favourites: Shania Twain, Celine Dion and that woman who shall remain nameless, because she's that bad! -------------   
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 20:33
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are you talking about... Mariah Carey!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahhaahaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 20:59
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Hmm, indeed I am el böthy, grr at you! I shall not sleep for a week now! Off topic: Can you point me in the direction of English translations of Borges? Just imagine a Phil Collins and Mariah Carey duet... tasty! PC: Oh, think twice, it's another day for you in paradise... MC: wooo woo woooooooo wo wooo woooo wo Even my friends who are into the likes of Bowling For Soup, Greenday, Good Charlotte and the like dislike Mariah! I've never met anyone who likes her, how is she so successful? Anyhow, I digress... back onto topic please people... -------------
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Posted By: Xymphony
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:17
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Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:23
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Go and listen to some bands that aren't good enough to secure record deals.
Then come back and debate honestly whether any of the above bands are pathetic. |
Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:24
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Nickelback... I can't beleive I used to like them. Don't get me started on ANY mainstream rap Just American Idiot by Greenday, It's just horrible, the rest I can deal with. Outkast- Korn Metelica Motley Crue Yeah thats about it ------------- www.myspace.com/hail_peter 
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Posted By: Xymphony
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:29
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Popularity/success or popularity/capability may be another criteria for this subject |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:39
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If you mean Metallica, I couldn't disagree more. After Black album, they turned crap, yes, but their early work is incredible. Ride The Lightning is one of my all time favorite albums ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Prosciutto
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:44
Well I think Kiss is one of those bands that makes just good time rock 'n' roll, there's nothing even close to pretentious, thoughtful, adventurous or complex in their output (alright, maybe "Music from The Elder"). Kiss, Saxon, AC/DC or even Manowar (the death to false metal! dudes ------------- Don't be a prog-hole, please... |
), anybody who takes those bands seriously needs to see a therapist. 
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:50
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I don't like Kiss very much, but I wouldn't describe them as pathetic, overrated yes, but stil a decent band, all that paraphernalia that surrounds them is stupid, but that's not their music, that's what most people wants. Fletwood Mac??? If I had to mention the best Pop bans it would easily be Fleetwood Mac, excellent vocals by Stevie Nicks, very good guitar by Buckingham, soloid drumming (ecven when too simple) by Mick Fleetwood and good music overall. My vote goes for any boys/girl bands, they don't play an instrument, create a single notte, care about what they sing, just look good and worry about their accounts, this is prostitution of art, nothing more, and that's pathetic from my point of view. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Gedhead
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:50
| U2! |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 22:00
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ELP Baby! Just kidding. I love ELP. I'm suprised I'm the first to say that! Most pathetic band ever has got to be............
Ok, there are a lot of pathetic bands, so many I would take forever to list. So lets just leave it at that. -------------  
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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 23:32
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Ok this may be the wrong thread ... but I saw this unbelievably dumb show on MTV called Meet The Barkers ... and I was looking at the guy's mansion (he's the drummer for Blink 182) ... and then I remembered the luxury of the stars that we see on MTV cribs And I thought it was really pathetic that these people are so rich with relavtively bad music from just a handful of albums, whereas there are many proggers who played outstanding music and had to endure a life of poverty ... I'm not talking about the really big names of ELP and Yes, but equally talented musicians in smaller bands (not much) ... apparently both Vincent Crane of Atomic Rooster (who committed suicide) and Steve Upton of Wishbone Ash (struggling as a waiter) ... were hard-up for cash ... I don't like that at all ... ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 23:45
| Totally agree, Trotsky. Such is the world we live in - marketing is the key, not content. It is also annoying when members of this site come down hard on bands that try to reap a few seeds from the music industry. It's catch 22: gotta be commerical to make money, gotta be poor to make good music. |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 23:45
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I agree, it's a travesty (I almost said Travisty - as in Travis Barker... I'll get my coat). But yes, there are so many great musicians out there who are having to earn a living doing menial jobs, even David Jackson had to go back to work in the 1970s and how good a saxophone player and flautist is he? There are many musicians that are not even well known who are amazing musicians and have to play the local circuit and get little recognition for it. Where I live, there is a ska/punk/pop band that has been signed and they have all moved to London and are supposed to be recording material and suchlike, the singer/guitarist and the lead guitarist are friends of mine and are cool guys, but I do not feel any reason why they have got where they have. The lead guitarist is good mind you, but maybe lost in that kind of band..., maybe I'm biased because I don't like ska/punk/pop... Another band I know, who are far more talented as a whole and produce great instrumental progressive type music, aren't getting signed, but they do have a good fan base I believe. It's a shame talent and ingenuity cannot be used instead of what people feel will be popular and sell well too the teenage market. Is there any hope? -------------
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 23:49
I definitely agree with you there Ivan. Fleetwood Mac (no matter what lineup) still made great music whether it be pop, blues, etc... They are far from pathetic. ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: mortem
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 23:52
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basically, most bands you see on MTV (most because Opeth's new video is played there) Simple Plan Maroon5 Good Charlotte Limp Bizkit Blink 182 basically every emo/scene band out there (stop whining about how your life sucks... and get that all that makeup off your face) basically every rapper out there (your phat rhymes don't impress me, dawg) ooooomg, disgusting  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/m0rtem/ - My Last.fm |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 23:53
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Not pathetic, just not my thing and Stevie Nicks is really quite
annoying and I can never forgive Mick Fleetwood for that awards show
(The Brits I think) he did with Samantha Fox... dreadful. Apart from that (oh and Lindsay Buckingham, he annoys me too), all is fine with Fleetwood Mac. The Chain isn't all that bad in retrospect..., I think it was because part of it was used for the Formula One theme music for years... -------------
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Posted By: Pafnutij
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 00:08
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Most Power metal |
Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 09:08
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DAMN, how the hell were Styx mentioned in this thread... MORE THAN ONCE? Do I call it prog? Yes. Do I call it theatrical, over the top, bombastic? Yes. Do I call it brilliant? Yes!!!! One of my favorite bands ever... so underrated around these parts that it's scary. |
Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 09:12
Must say I love every era of Fleetwood Mac: the blues years, the early seventies proggish stuff ("Future Games" and "Bare Trees" are stunning albums that very many forum members would adore) and the later pop/ rock LPs. But I do agree they're a band where you have to separate the music from the people, at least in the case of Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks. They may be a brilliant guitarist/writer and an accomplished singer/songwriter respectively, but their behaviour onstage (try watching the "Mirage Tour" video for confirmation) is toe-curlingly embarrassing. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 11:09
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Fair enough if you don't like U2, but no way can you say they are "bland". Westlife singles are bland, U2 have made some of the finest rock singles of the past few years (e.g Vertigo). I'd also like to say I like Stevie Nicks (and her singing). |
Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 11:54
YOUVE GOT TO READ THIS: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=11worst -------------  
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Posted By: Gog/Magog
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 14:13
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Girls Aloud on "Children in Need" last night... Not really a band i know but blimey they stunk the place out |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 15:09
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U2 would get my vote - you really need to see Bill Bailey's demolition job on them in the Part Troll DVD. Travis always sound like they release half finished songs to me. Oasis - don't get me started on Jamie Cullum's success also baffles me - the Jamie Oliver of the contemporary music scene. Yes, he's got some talent, but be honest - would you rather Jamie Oliver or Gordon Ramsay cooked your dinner? I rest my case. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Oasis. I thought Take That were more honest - 5 lads from oop North, including an ugly one who wrote all the songs, but at least they didn't recycle old Beatles hits and claim to be creative.Posted By: Alagithil
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 20:54
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The Pussy Cat Dolls. "Don Cha" is the worst pop hit ever. Without hyperbole. ------------- Life is like an avantgarde play because tuna. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 12:54
NOT ANY BAND PATHETIC YOU ARE .... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 12:57
THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING WHAT ARE YOU DOING? SPREADING NEGATIVE WIBES, I DONT LIKE IT IF YOU DISLKE SOMETHING DESCRIBE WHY THEY SUCK. THEN I'LL SALUTE YOU;
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 04:45
BLACK METAL BANDS 
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 07:07
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Limp Bizkit with Fred Worst uh Durst Marylin Manson Kispál és a Borz(an awful band from Hungary) Boygroups,girlgroups,80's hair bands and a lot more. |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 09:26
Lindsay Lohan |
Posted By: matti meikäläin
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 14:01
| ac/dc has been doing the same music for 30 years, that's pathetic |