IQ Dark matter
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Topic: IQ Dark matter
Posted By: Miyaru
Subject: IQ Dark matter
Date Posted: October 09 2004 at 07:40
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Hi everybody, i'm brand new in the forum, so please be kind ti me. What do you think about the last IQ cd??? |
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Posted By: Petra
Date Posted: October 09 2004 at 08:55
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Hello Miyaru! Dark Matter has become my all time fav IQ album. The epic track 'harvest of the souls' is simply breath taking, taking the listener through several mood changes and thought provoking lyrics too. I love the whole album |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 09 2004 at 10:02
| Check the reviews here, and perhaps the likes of Amazon (I've put one up at Amazon.UK) - all/most are very positive. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 09 2004 at 17:53
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IQ have been one of my favourite bands for a long time.DM is sort of 'middling' for me..better than Nomzamo,Are You Sitting Comfortably and Seven Stories into Ninety Eight but not as good as The Wake,Tales..,Ever and Seventh House. The main problem is ' |
Posted By: Miyaru
Date Posted: October 10 2004 at 06:43
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i agree with you. in my opininion is a very good album, but "ever" and "the wake" are much better. I think furthermore that it looks like too much a "foxtrot" work: if you listen closely the begininng and the last section of sacred sound are com |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 11 2004 at 03:01
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[QUOTE=Miyaru] i agree with you. in my opininion is a very good album, but "ever" and "the wake" are much better. I think furthermore that it looks like too much a "foxtrot" work: if you listen closely the begininng and the last section of sacr |
Posted By: Miyaru
Date Posted: October 11 2004 at 08:53
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i will try Magenta, i'm fond of all the other ones. tks |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: October 12 2004 at 22:29
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After reading the reviews, Richardh's post and the lyrics I can honestly say I will NEVER buy an I.Q. cd....EVER!!! I have said it before and I'll say it again..politics and music don't mix..because not everyone will share your view and you migh |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 15 2004 at 19:40
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[QUOTE=gdub411] After reading the reviews, Richardh's post and the lyrics I can honestly say I will NEVER buy an I.Q. cd....EVER!!! I have said it before and I'll say it again..politics and music don't mix..because not ever |
Posted By: janharke
Date Posted: October 21 2004 at 09:04
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[QUOTE=gdub411] After reading the reviews, Richardh's post and the I have said it before and I'll say it again..politics and music don't |
Posted By: jiggajake
Date Posted: October 21 2004 at 14:20
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They aren't necessarily against america, but against american government, and that speaks a lot to the teens and up coming generation of America which is why this cd was distributed massively in america. The lyrics on the CD are, as aforementioned by so |
Posted By: Jools
Date Posted: October 25 2004 at 13:16
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I think its shamelessly derivative, Harvest of Souls goes through at least two Genesis rip offs (Ripples, Apocalyspe in 9/8) and two Yes rip offs (Gates of Delerium, Heart of the Sunrise), surely most of you have noticed?. For these reasons I find it ------------- Ridicule is the burden of genius. |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 25 2004 at 14:55
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Surely you should write music about what's important to you, thus if politics is of great import to a songwriter (and surely it should be of at least some importance to everybody), it makes sense to write songs about it, or related to it. Likew |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 25 2004 at 17:56
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[QUOTE=Jools]I think its shamelessly derivative, Harvest of Souls goes through at least two Genesis rip offs (Ripples, Apocalyspe in 9/8) and two Yes rip offs (Gates of Delerium, Heart of the Sunrise), surely most of you have noticed?. For these r |
Posted By: Miyaru
Date Posted: October 26 2004 at 03:19
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Hi Jools, i think that also sacred sound (especially the beginning and the end) sounds somehow like watcher of the skies. Howerever i like that Cd very much, even if Ever is probably my IQ favourite |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 08 2004 at 19:03
| I like it, it's not my favorite and it's not my least favorite. It's around the middle. My favorites are The Wake and Ever. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 09 2004 at 16:35
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I saw IQ perform the whole album recently and I like it even more now.Expansive,ambitious (despite the 'borrows') and demanding something of the listener as prog should be. |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: November 10 2004 at 08:16
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No one seems to get annoyed by rock musicians writing about Tiannamen (Marillion's 'The King of Sunset Town', Hammill's 'Our Oyster'), South Africa (Hammill's 'A Motorbike in Africa', Gabriel's 'Biko'), turmoils in Central America (Sing's |
Posted By: Miyaru
Date Posted: November 10 2004 at 08:22
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I will be in London for their concert in december. I havo also a bootleg in Holland in may 2004 and the concert was great!!! I'm looking forward to being there..... |
Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 11:58
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The first time I played "Dark Matter" I couldn't see what the fuss was about, but I gave it a couple more spins and am now hooked. Some of the music is derivative, but it doesn't bother me. I was impressed enough to buy another copy as a Ch |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: December 25 2004 at 12:13
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heard some excerpts and i found the keyboards different, maybe a bit outdated. (back to old school?) seems very good though, but different from the previous albums. editID>greenback------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: lobster41
Date Posted: December 31 2004 at 17:02
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"Dark Matter" was my first IQ disc (the only one I could pick up in the States), and I LOVE it. Fantastic all the way through. I have gone on to purchase "The Wake" and "Seventh House" at import prices. I will at some point pick up "Ever" an |
Posted By: Miyaru
Date Posted: December 31 2004 at 19:28
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Are you fighting for the freedom of others or for oil now that your contracts with Saudi Arabia are in danger? I don't remember of any American soldier in countries where there are problems of freedom but no econmical interests.
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Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: January 01 2005 at 03:48
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[QUOTE=Miyaru] Are you fighting for the freedom of others or for oil now that your contracts with Saudi Arabia are in danger? I don't remember of any American soldier in countries where there are problems of freedom but no econmical interests. |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 03 2005 at 19:46
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There it was at the store saying....Greg..buy me,buy me...and despite my reservations about buying a cd where they feel it necessary to bash the US, I bought it anyway. So far, I must say, it is decent. I haven't gotten to Harvest of Souls, though, and |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 04 2005 at 02:56
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[QUOTE=gdub411] There it was at the store saying....Greg..buy me,buy me...and despite my reservations about buying a cd where they feel it necessary to bash the US, I bought it anyway. So far, I must say, it is decent. I haven't |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 04 2005 at 13:58
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Well I digested it all and while Harvester of Souls has it's moments, i wasn't exactly bowled over by the tune. The anti-America message doesn't bug me too much. I am starting to realize it is fashionable to bash America in Europe, so they 're just jump |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: January 05 2005 at 07:51
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They are not bashing America, but a particular American foreign policy - the first section of 'Harvest of Souls' shows a sympathy for this country's vulnerability after (at least I interpret it that way) the horrible 9/11 events. But well |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: January 05 2005 at 14:10
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[QUOTE=Miyaru] Are you fighting for the freedom of others or for oil now that your contracts with Saudi Arabia are in danger? I don't remember of any American soldier in countries where there are problems of freedom but no |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: January 05 2005 at 14:22
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[QUOTE=Peter][QUOTE=Miyaru] Are you fighting for the freedom of others or for oil now that your contracts with Saudi Arabia are in danger? I don't remember of any American soldier in countries where there are problems of fr |
Posted By: lobster41
Date Posted: January 05 2005 at 16:21
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Gdub, Thanks for giving IQ a chance. I was hoping you wouldn't truly allow your political views obscure your pleasure in music. One man's opinion. I have "Ever" and "Subterranea" on t |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: January 05 2005 at 20:04
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[QUOTE=tuxon][QUOTE=Peter][QUOTE=Miyaru] Are you fighting for the freedom of others or for oil now that your contracts with Saudi Arabia are in danger? I don't remember of any American soldier in countries where there are p |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: January 06 2005 at 00:54
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Peter I didn't imply you to be naive (and I know your Canadian). Your post was already the forth or so with the argument "We Northn Americans saved you 60 years ago from the Germans, so you have to be so thankfull". To me that's not a valid arg |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: January 06 2005 at 08:00
------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
tuxon wrote:Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: January 06 2005 at 15:21
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------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 06 2005 at 16:12
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Dark Matter....pretty decent cd. Could use some mellotrons. Doncha think Peter? Anyways...it was my angry outburst that got this thread inflamed in the 1st place. My apologies. I still am not t |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: January 09 2005 at 10:20
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[QUOTE=gdub411] Dark Matter....pretty decent cd. Could use some mellotrons. Doncha think Peter? Anyways I am glad i got it. I will in the future look for more IQ.(no comments on that one |
Posted By: Nerevar
Date Posted: January 20 2005 at 06:05
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I just bought Dark Matter and was totally blown away by the first track. What I found funny though, was that during my first listen, I hardly ever focus on the lyrics, I just lie back and close my eyes, but during the Harvest of Souls track, the lyrics got ------------- "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy." |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 20 2005 at 16:03
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[QUOTE=Nerevar]I just bought Dark Matter and was totally blown away by the first track. What I found funny though, was that during my first listen, I hardly ever focus on the lyrics, I just lie back and close my eyes, but during the Harvest of Souls tra |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: January 20 2005 at 16:55
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My God! Does that mean that someday Iraq will be a respected n |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: January 20 2005 at 17:02
.........or the lack of it. |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 20 2005 at 17:06
.........or the lack of it. |
Posted By: Nerevar
Date Posted: January 20 2005 at 18:21
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[QUOTE=gdub411] [QUOTE=Nerevar]I just bought Dark Matter and was totally blown away by the first track. What I found funny though, was that during my first listen, I hardly ever focus on the lyrics, I just lie back and close my eyes, but during the Har |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 20 2005 at 23:10
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The problem is yours are not based on facts. What are you reading? The Liberalist Gazette. Guys like you allowed people like Hitler to power. All hail Neville Chamberlain. You still didn't answer the question: Is the world better with or |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 03:01
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Honestly...and I'm really not just being contentious here...I don't feel any safer now that Saddam is in custody. Sure, we derailed a major anti-US figurehead and known warmonger. That's good. I'd be kidding myself to say that it's&nbs |
Posted By: nacho
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 04:10
I'll answer it: The central message of Machiavelli's The Pr |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 17:59
I'll answer it: So, my answer is that the world is a |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 18:15
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You guys have no ideas how many times I've killed Sam Adams...
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 18:34
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^ LOL, thanks Danbo. The thread needed a nudge. BTW, I'm not a big fan of "Dark Matter", and it has nothing to do with anti- Americanism. It just reminds me too much of bad dated musical theater. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi"> 
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 18:43
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[QUOTE=James Lee] ^ LOL, thanks Danbo. The thread needed a nudge. BTW, I'm not a big fan of "Dark Matter", and it has nothing to do with anti- Americanism. It just reminds me too much of bad dated musical theater. |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 18:55
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[QUOTE=gdub411][QUOTE=James Lee] ^ LOL, thanks Danbo. The thread needed a nudge. BTW, I'm not a big fan of "Dark Matter", and it has nothing to do with anti- Americanism. It just reminds me too much of bad dated musical theater. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 19:14
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[QUOTE=James Lee][QUOTE=gdub411][QUOTE=James Lee] ^ LOL, thanks Danbo. The thread needed a nudge. BTW, I'm not a big fan of "Dark Matter", and it has nothing to do with anti- Americanism. It just reminds me too much of bad dated musical theat |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 19:19
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BTW, feel free to quote me out of context. I love it when people do that. If there's one thing that would keep a smile on my face, it would be the thought that someone out there thinks they have proof that I'm a homophobic ultra-l |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 19:29
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James Lee, before his sudden death:
I've woke up next to worse!
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 19:51
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I had to cut and paste the pic to see it, but it was worth it. Here's another equally accurate portrayal of me:
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 19:53
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The brain area looks a little over-developed for you James! ------------- 
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 20:04
^ LOL, that's the only real giveaway. That and the fact that nobody in their right mind would make me a centerfold.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 21 2005 at 23:08
| You posted numorous incendiary comments about the forum members today James. I chose the wrong thread, but it was your last post that I flew off the handle, so here it is. If the members here are so ignorant and stupid, then just leave you lunatic, tree hu |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: January 22 2005 at 05:51
It's good to have someone who knows me so well.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: Jools
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 10:57
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Yaaawwnn! ------------- Ridicule is the burden of genius. |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 14:56
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Brits. |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: January 29 2005 at 22:34
| I'm not usually into neo-prog, but Dark Matter is a great album. |
Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: January 30 2005 at 20:28
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Unfortunately for me, Dark Matter is just another example of music that I find relatively pleasant to listen to, but don't feel anything really special in. |
Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 11:46
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[QUOTE=gdub411] There it was at the store saying....Greg..buy me,buy me...and despite my reservations about buying a cd where they feel it necessary to bash the US, I bought it anyway. So far, I must say, it is decent. I haven't gotten to Harvest of |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 18 2005 at 18:03
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Got to agree with you there Useful (or do you prefer to be called Idiot?). I was prepared to dislike it for being derivative, and let's face it they'd |
Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: February 23 2005 at 15:54
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I really like Dark Matter, although it wasn't my fav. cd of 2004 (that spot was filled by that really BIG DIGIBOOK Marbles by Marillion) Though, I enjoy listening to Seventh House more than listening to DM. I suppose that this is one of tho |
Posted By: Raymon7174
Date Posted: February 23 2005 at 17:45
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I like Dark Matter too. Harvest of Souls. The lyrics don't really bother me. We Americans hold dear the right to say what we think. Besides, Americans themselves are well known for speaking out against war. The lyrics could also be construe |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: February 24 2005 at 22:28
I can't wait to get htis album in the mail  I ordered away for it, including A Trick of the Tail by Genesis and The Neal and JAck and Me DVD by King Crimson.------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |