5 star rating
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Topic: 5 star rating
Posted By: Fishy
Subject: 5 star rating
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 17:43
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Lately I've been noticing numerous reviews on the main page with 5 stars. Even without knowledge of the albums that "earned" 5 stars, a blind man can see that this can't be the purpose. 5 stars should be exceptional, only for great prog albums that stand the test of time. I have the impression a lot of people use the 5 star rating when they like the album. To my opinion this would be a 3 star rating. 4 stars is justified when the artist adds something special and 5 stars would only be for masterpieces. When we use the 5 star rating constantly, it will be hard for readers to sort out which albums are really outstanding. What do you think ? |
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 17:48
Honestly... I ignore those kind of reviews. It doesn't take long to figure out, who is actually doing 'meaningful' reviews, and who is not. In that sense if a reader is really looking for input on an album...read the reviews. If they don't say much.... they aren't worth much. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Fishy wrote:Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 18:10
On the other hand, you gotta appreciate those who can get to the point, nice and fast. Sometimes, most of the time actually, the reviewer just summerizes each song, not really explaining whats good or bad, and in the end not letting the person reading the review experience the album for themself's. I hate looking at a review for an album I haven't listened to yet, just to see if it is worth getting, and when I'm done reading I end up knowing what's gonna happen because the person wrote a legnthy review that looked good and fancy, but just summerizing each song.It is hard looking for a good review if you just only want to know if the album should be checked out or not, especially if you don't want to know what happens in the music. The short reviews can be good sometimes. Don't let the legnth of a review fool you. ------------- We got to pump the stuff to make us tough from the heart Its astart What we need is awareness we cant get careless Mental self defensive fitness Make everybody see in order to fight the powers that be |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 18:10
yeah but alot of new people browsing this website could get misleaded just for the 5 star review. I say it would be nice if people took real care of rating albums. This week I saw a DT review that gave one song 0/5 and another song 2/5 ,or something like that, and gave the album a 5/5...  ------------- 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 18:23
points taken... I did sort of ramble on about length, and missed on my point that with a bit of reading you can tell those are 'gushing' about favs (the 5 stars to albums that are nowhere near classics of the genre), aand those are trying to give an objective view of the albums. I'm thinking about trying my hand at some reviews but not sure how I want to do them yet. I guess I got sort of bent when checking on an 'official bootleg' Magma album I wanted to order, someone reviewed it... but neglected to say anything about it. What's the point of reviewing it... Got it anyway.... excellent album, and will be my first review I do here. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 18:25
hahahhah... good thing I can't stand D.T. or I would have been confused as hell. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 19:17
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I hate seeing undeserved 5 star reviews (and 1 star for that matter) for some albums. I think some people get a bit too out of hand, and give 5 stars to anything that pleases them. However, in saying that, I mainly reviews albums I like and I feel that the five star ratings i've given to albums eg. Foxtrot, Larks Tongues in Aspic, Close to the Edge, Relayer, Brain Salad Surgery, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, A Farewell to Kings.... and believe it or nor, Flying Teapot. Micky, I wonder if you seen any of my reviews? Would that be an example of a bad or uninformative review? I would like you to tell me if that's what you think. I try to do my reviews as best I can while still being fair to the album. I've made some mistakes that I now regret though ------------- My computer's broke |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 20:15
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I don't think 5 star rating should be reserved for time tested classics, but, to the reviewer the album must move them from start to finish, without a letdown. I can think of quite a few which, for me, fall into this designation. One of these was released last year, so I cannot say if I will still feel the same after a decade or two (providing I'm still alive. If a reviewer gives an album 5 stars, then the burden is on them to provide the reason they feel that this recording is perfection. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: akin
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 21:30
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Well, itīs hard to discuss reviews because people tend to write what
they would like to read. Some like to write a description of the songs,
some like to write what they consider the highlights of the album. Some
describe the best songs and give an overview of the whole album. All of
them are valid. The objective is to have lots of reviews. Sometimes
itīs good to know more or less how the song sounds, because we can
never know, talking about progressive rock, but sometimes the gorgeous
descriptions makes the interest grow. About giving five stars, I donīt think people really cares about the album being a masterpiece or not, because being a masterpiece or not is in the eye of beholder (Picassoīs paintings are masterpieces to some and just lots of lines scrambled for others). But what I think is that people have to keep in mind that less than ten percent of the albuns the person has deserve five star. Most of then deserves four. Many times I reviewed an album as four of five stars and then decreased the rating by one star because after hearing more 100 albuns, I realized that the album is not that masterpiece. My criteria is: 1 star to albuns that make me bored/nervous. 2 stars to albuns that have something good but the overall isnīt good. 3 stars to good albuns in general. 4 stars to great albuns, that I like very much. And 5 stars to the albuns I really enjoy, think they are a masterpiece (for me) and that keep on returning very often to my record player (although I buy 10 to 15 albuns/month). I think it is fair. With rare exceptions, most of my favourite bands have only two masterpieces among 15 or 20 albuns. Of course I most of the albuns I rated first are my favourites, but now most of my reviews are of 3 or 4 star albuns. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 07:09
I remember some of your reviews... (being a poster/reviewer that I've recognized hahahah), and honestly can't recall anything wrong with your reviews. In my humble opinion, if you are attempting to do the reviews as well as you can and be fair to the album, then no one can say anything. That's all anyone can do in my book. I've done a couple reviews on other sites and I wasn't happy with them, being a bit of a perfectionist, but the effort was there hahahha. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |