Favorite classical piece of music?
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Topic: Favorite classical piece of music?
Posted By: jojim
Subject: Favorite classical piece of music?
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 13:22
If Prog is a "subdivision" of classical symponic music: what would you give to a friend to convince him, that this music is great stuff. -
For me:
- PETER TSCHAIKOWSKY "6. Symphony" (Pathetique) conducted by Sergiu Celibidache
- VAUGHAN WILLIAMS "The lark ascending" conducted by Sir Adrian Boult
The catch is that I'm looking for stylistic elements from this musical gems in Prog-Music. "Mad man moon" by GENESIS is very close to this kind of classical atmosphere.
What's your choice?
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 13:25
I choose to move this to the "non prog music forum"
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 13:27
not really "classical" in the true sense of the word (the "classical" period refers to Haydn, Mozart and the early Beethoven and their contemporaries), but in a broader sense of the word: "Le Sacre du Printemps" by Igor Stravinsky. very influential for Prog, in my opinion. I choose the version with Leonard Bernstein and the New York Philharmonic Orchestra
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Posted By: jojim
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 13:29
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Posted By: jojim
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 13:32
Thanks Baldjean: of course I mean all the music until today that is not played in MTV but in opera or concert halls. We call that "classic" (in german is "ernste" Musik). I don't know the appropriate term in English.
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 13:44
Mahler - Das Lied von der Erde
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 14:36
Toccata In D-Fuga by JS Bach, played on a real church organ is such an impressive sound, it is mighty close to the most bombastic progrock!
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 14:37
I have many since my wife is a classical musician and teacher and
we have lots and I mean lots no, truck loads of classical CDs. However
the one Ilike the most is Mozart piano Concerto No. 21 in C minor Geza
Anda.
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Posted By: yaksongs
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 14:50
I like Vaughan Williams' Fantasia in A on a theme by Thomas Tallis - listen to it in the dark at full volume - it's awesome. Another current favourite is a piece called Evening Hymn by Balfour Gardiner - this is choral & really very moving
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 15:14
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 15:32
Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto #2....
I melt everytime I hear it... simply incredible.. especially to hear Rachmaninoff himself play it.
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 16:15
Beethoven's Ninth Symphony for me. I got to hear it live with a full chorus about a year and a half ago and I think the room levitated in the 4th movement. I never get tired of hearing it.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 16:16
So many,since classical music is my carrier and my greatest passion...can't name a favourite...never could,never will...
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Posted By: zabriskiepoint
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 16:17
I bet baroque would be the best to start with, The four seasons by Vivaldi or the cello suites by Bach.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 16:18
Ricochet wrote:
So many,since classical music is my carrier and my
greatest passion...can't name a favourite...never could,never will...
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indulge us.... how about a list of your favorites...
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 16:20
micky wrote:
Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto #2....
I melt everytime I hear it... simply incredible.. especially to hear Rachmaninoff himself play it.
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you are probably refering to the Welte-Mignon recordings of Rachmaninoff. there are some of Debussy and Mahler too. and of Gershwin
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 16:21
micky wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
So many,since classical music is my carrier and my
greatest passion...can't name a favourite...never could,never will...
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indulge us.... how about a list of your favorites...
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but i just said I can't...
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 16:22
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 16:22
BaldJean wrote:
micky wrote:
Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto #2....
I melt everytime I hear it... simply incredible.. especially to hear Rachmaninoff himself play it.
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you are probably refering to the Welte-Mignon recordings of Rachmaninoff
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hahahha... yeah. Maybe it's just
me but I really enjoy hearing him play it as well. He wasn't just
a great composer but a great pianist as well at least IMO (correct me
if you feel differently hahahha)
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 16:24
he was a famos virtuoso in his time
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 16:40
BaldJean wrote:
he was a famos virtuoso in his time
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I thought as much... but I've had a few factual misteps (Canterbury and
Krautrock) recently so I'm a bit more cautious these days in my
presumed declarations of facts hahahh 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 17:05
At about 10 years ago I wanted to discover the world of the classical piano. In a record shop I asked for advise and then bought the CD Horowitz In Moscow. The most compelling pieces were from .. Sergei Rachmaninov: Prelude in G Major, Prelude in G Sharp minor and Polka de W.R., it's sometimes like galloping Huns!
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 17:39
Bach "St. Matthew's Passions"
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 17:43
erik neuteboom wrote:
At about 10 years ago I wanted to discover the
world of the classical piano. In a record shop I asked for advise and
then bought the CD Horowitz In Moscow. The most compelling pieces were
from .. Sergei Rachmaninov: Prelude in G Major, Prelude in G Sharp
minor and Polka de W.R., it's sometimes like galloping
Huns! |
I've always been drawn to classical piano myself. Have you heard Grieg's Piano Concerto in A minor Op.16 ....
. I just love that one, Rachmaninoff was a big fan of Grieg and this piano concerto
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 17:49
OK, Micky, I will check it out, thanks!
By the way, Grieg his Peer Gynt Suite is almost a progrock anthem, I love Rick Wakeman his Minimoog rendition on Journey To The Centre Of The Earth !
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 17:50
there are a lot of piano concertos I love. the famos first one by Tchaikovski. the c-major concerto of Mozart. the first piano concerto of Brahms. and and and.....
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Posted By: Matti
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 00:51
Here are some:
MAHLER: Das Lied von der Erde (also anything else by him) DEBUSSY: L'apres-midi d'un faun BACH: Brandenburg concerti, solo works for any instrument, ...anything by Him is Music To Ears (but the Passions I find rather tiring to listen through...) Cello Concerto of ELGAR and one by DVORAK DVORAK: the 'New World' Symphony, especially the slow movement SAINT-SAENS: 3rd, aka 'Organ' Symphony VIVALDI: all his concerti (even the overplayed Four Seasons !) HÄNDEL: Oboe concerto and of the 'modern' (20th Century) music I have e.g. SCHÖNBERG's Pierrot Lunaire, very interesting, a bit weird SIBELIUS' symphonies and numerous of others I forgot to mention. (Generally Baroque is very good music to wake up to.)
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 02:41
Of Schönberg I especially like "Verklärte Nacht". One of my favourite pieces of music. I like Ravel's deconstruction of a waltz in "La Valse". The "Goldberg variations" by Bach, especially in the first recording with Glen Gould. Mozart's "Don Giovanni" is the pinnacle of opera. Absolutely ingenious mix of drama and comedy, with an excellent libretto by Lorenzo da Ponte. All the characters are so very stupid, especially the men. What the heck is, for example, Don Ottavio thinking when he sings "Hai sposo e padre in me" ("You have spouse and husband in me") right after her father has been murdered by Don Giovanni? Does he really think Donna Anna is in the mood for a proposal right now?
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 02:46
La mer by Debussy (The sea) is an absolute must have.
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Posted By: Emiaj
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 11:06
Berlioz' Fantastique (?), Shostakovich's 7th and 8th.....
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 12:26
Don't overlook Haydn. He wrote some magnificent symphonies and concertos. And, on a humorous note, few know that he nicknamed his daughter "Peepin' Anna."
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 13:42
That would be news to me. Haydn didn't have children, at least not with his wife Anna. He probably had an affair with Italian singer Luigia Polzelli, and one, perhaps two of her sons is or are rumoured to have been by him. Perhaps you mean his wife Anna.
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Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 13:53
Posted By: Deliriumist
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 14:01
Rodrigo - Concerto de Aranjuez
Grieg - Peer Gynt
Tshaikovsky - Nutcracker
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 15:41
BaldFriede wrote:
That would be news to me. Haydn didn't have children, at least not with his wife Anna. He probably had an affair with Italian singer Luigia Polzelli, and one, perhaps two of her sons is or are rumoured to have been by him. Perhaps you mean his wife Anna. |
Well, maybe it WAS his wife. Anyway, that would make her "Peepin' Anna Haydn." Sorry, bad joke.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 17:29
erik neuteboom wrote:
Toccata In D-Fuga by JS Bach, played on a real church organ is such an impressive sound, it is mighty close to the most bombastic progrock! |
I love that as well. My favourite organ piece in classical music.
Mine: cliche, cliche, but Rachmaninows 2nd Piano Concerto, as performed by Richter (I prefer him to Ashkenazy: more boombastic).
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 17:34
yaksongs wrote:
I like Vaughan Williams' Fantasia in A on a theme by Thomas Tallis - listen to it in the dark at full volume - it's awesome. Another current favourite is a piece called Evening Hymn by Balfour Gardiner - this is choral & really very moving
M
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Still have to check out Vaughan Williams. I get the impression that he's mainly popular in the Anglo-Saxon countries, is that true?
As much as I discovered British prog, so little have I checked out British classical music . VW, Elgar, Walton etc.: I really want to listen to them one day.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 17:45
I was touched by the story that so many English progrock musicians (in the wealthy and religious southern part of the UK) grew up in the Anglo-Saxon church tradition with choirs and church organ (as I read in Edward Macan's boom Rocking The Classics), perhaps this is a clue to the often dramatic build-ups and bombastic climates in progrock?
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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 18:20
Beethoven's 9th, Dvorzak's New World Symph. Schubert's Unfinished Symph.
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Posted By: Hemispheres
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 22:16
Rite Of Spring (Stravinsky)
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Posted By: Toob-Wurm
Date Posted: March 04 2006 at 00:06
Hehe, my favorite is Paul Hindemith.
I heard a "friend" of mine say "who writes this stuff, and who actually listens to it??"
Yeah, he's one of the "proggier" composers if you ever listen to him.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 04 2006 at 05:58
micky wrote:
erik neuteboom wrote:
At about 10 years ago I wanted to discover the world of the classical piano. In a record shop I asked for advise and then bought the CD Horowitz In Moscow. The most compelling pieces were from .. Sergei Rachmaninov: Prelude in G Major, Prelude in G Sharp minor and Polka de W.R., it's sometimes like galloping Huns! |
I've always been drawn to classical piano myself. Have you heard Grieg's Piano Concerto in A minor Op.16 ....
. I just love that one, Rachmaninoff was a big fan of Grieg and this piano concerto
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And Schumann's piano concerto. I would call that my top 3 piano concertos:
- Rachmaninows 2nd
- Grieg's piano concerto
- Schumann's piano concerto
I tried to play the Grieg one, but that's a bit too ambitious at the moment, not the beginning, but all the fast solos 
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 04 2006 at 06:11
You should listen to Hindemith's "Overture to the 'Flying Dutchman' as played
at sight by a second-rate concert orchestra at the village well at 7 o'clock
in the morning", and you will laugh your ass off at how he makes a mockery of Wagner in it.
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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 10:12
anything by Handel
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Posted By: Toob-Wurm
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 12:21
BaldFriede wrote:
You should listen to Hindemith's "Overture to the 'Flying Dutchman' as played at sight by a second-rate concert orchestra at the village well at 7 o'clock in the morning", and you will laugh your ass off at how he makes a mockery of Wagner in it. |
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 13:51
Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 14:28
My favorite classical piece probably is a Prelude by Bach, BWV 924.
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Posted By: Toob-Wurm
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 16:50
Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 21:27
My favourite classical music is without a doubt: Chopin's Piano Concerts (both) and played by Maria Joao Pires
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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 21:52
Vivaldi's "Violin Concerto in A Minor". Ravel's "Bolero".
And Penguin Café Orchestra's "Music for a Found Harmonium" .
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Posted By: Destrio
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 23:20
Posted By: helofloki
Date Posted: March 07 2006 at 23:45
Schubert's String Quintet in C Major, Berlioz' symphony fantastique, Penderecki's Meditations on the Victims of Hiroshima, Messaen's Quartet for the end of Time, Chopin's Ballade in F Major, Beethoven's 9th (yeah it's classic), and a lot of other stuff, but those are all really fantastic.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 08 2006 at 04:38
Excuse me, but Hindemith himself titled this piece of music that way! It is a parody of Wagner!
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