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Topic: Jan Hammer
Posted By: Dick Heath
Subject: Jan Hammer
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 07:19

Jan Hammer is now included in PA:

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2431 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=2431

 please help start the reviews of Jan Hammer albums.




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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 08:13
GREAT!!!


Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 08:29
Excellent!!


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 08:55

Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

GREAT!!!

 

Thanks for taking me up on my request so quickly



Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 09:32
Happy to see this great musician included and not before time. 

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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 09:58
Miami Vice theme tune

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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 10:29
My favorite Jan Hammer work is his playing on Timeless, John Abercrombie's album. Magnificent.

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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 11:49

Originally posted by Dr. Occulator Dr. Occulator wrote:

My favorite Jan Hammer work is his playing on Timeless, John Abercrombie's album. Magnificent.

My favorite Jan Hammer album is Oh Yeah! (why hasn't it been released on cd??) but the alternative take of the Oh Yeah tune,  Red & Orange found on Abercrombie's Timeless has the edge - also Hammer provides one of those great Hammond organ performances on Timeless, when perhaps he isn't known as a Hammond-player. For another aspect of the same line-up as found on Timeless, but with the addition of Mike Brecker in stinging form, is the later ECM Records album Night

 

Seriously thinking of trying to add Abercrombie into PA, as a major jazz rock guitarist - although a lot of his albums released in the last years, have been more mainstream jazz.



Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 12:04

Very nice addition Dick.

Good job



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 12:18
 his work with Neil schon was unbelievable


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 12:39

Originally posted by yankeerose yankeerose wrote:

 his work with Neil schon was unbelievable

 

Please feel free to add the albums and reviews



Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 15:42
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

GREAT!!!

 

Thanks for taking me up on my request so quickly

You're welcome.



Posted By: pero
Date Posted: March 16 2006 at 04:20

If Jan Hammer is in, where is Billy Cobham?

His work is considerable contribution to fusion.

 



Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 16 2006 at 06:26
Originally posted by pero pero wrote:

If Jan Hammer is in, where is Billy Cobham?

His work is considerable contribution to fusion.

 

 

Patience. IMHO Jan hammer has a bigger body of work and contributed to others work, more than BC. And these biogs are not dashed off in 5 minutes - 6 to 8 hours research, compilation, writing and up loading on to PA for Jan Hammer. So if you want to accelerate the process of BC's addition, start researching and writing, and I'm more than willing to help.



Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 16 2006 at 17:31
What about the album he did with Jerry Goodman just after the break-up of the original Mahavishnu Orchestra?

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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: March 16 2006 at 18:18
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

[QUOTE=Dr. Occulator]My favorite Jan Hammer work is his playing on Timeless, John Abercrombie's album. Magnificent.


 

Seriously thinking of trying to add Abercrombie into PA, as a major jazz rock guitarist - although a lot of his albums released in the last years, have been more mainstream jazz.

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I second the motion on having John Abercrombie added to PA. His electric guitar work on some albums has definitly broken new ground and his synth-ax work is so warm and human it sounds like a natural instrument.


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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 16 2006 at 19:09
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

What about the album he did with Jerry Goodman just after the break-up of the original Mahavishnu Orchestra?


Like Children - you'll find it reviewed under the 'Jerry Goodman & Jan Hammer' section, which I guess will confuse when the proper Jerry Goodman section gets uploaded


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 16 2006 at 21:49

Like Children  is awesome. Too bad it's never been issued on CD.



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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 16 2006 at 21:54

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

My favorite Jan Hammer album is Oh Yeah! (why hasn't it been released on cd??) but the alternative take of the Oh Yeah tune,  Red & Orange found on Abercrombie's Timeless has the edge - also Hammer provides one of those great Hammond organ performances on Timeless, when perhaps he isn't known as a Hammond-player. For another aspect of the same line-up as found on Timeless, but with the addition of Mike Brecker in stinging form, is the later ECM Records album Night

You probably already have them but in addition to those, the Elvin Jones – Jan Hammer – Gene Perla CD On The Mountain is a must (same year as Timeless, IIRC), and Horacee Arnold's Tales Of The Exonerated Flea (with Jan) is equally kickass. I think I may prefer Elvin's, though. The two Hammer & David Earle Johnson collaborations are killer—lotsa juicy monophonic Moog work.



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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 05:24
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by pero pero wrote:

If Jan Hammer is in, where is Billy Cobham?

His work is considerable contribution to fusion.

 

 

Patience. IMHO Jan hammer has a bigger body of work and contributed to others work, more than BC. And these biogs are not dashed off in 5 minutes - 6 to 8 hours research, compilation, writing and up loading on to PA for Jan Hammer. So if you want to accelerate the process of BC's addition, start researching and writing, and I'm more than willing to help.

Sorry. I would try but regretably I'm not so good in writing English.



Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 06:48
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Like Children  is awesome. Too bad it's never been issued on CD.

 

Rumours that it has been remastered and was supposed to be released last year................. however.....................  as was one of the supposedy many live recordings found in Columbia Records archives of Mahavishnu Orchestra, made in Phili (or Baltimore) during touring on the back of Inner Mounting Flame - Greg Bendian leader of Mahavishnu Project is in print talking about his part in remastering the recording. 

 

Strange things happen though. 3 years ago Atlantic Jazz Remasters had in their schedules for reissue the remastered CD of Miroslav Vitous's (with Herbie Hancock) classic jazz funk album Magical Shepherd (I saw several pre-release sheets and articles about it); it didn't happen because the record label couldn't get Vitous's signature on to a contract for the reissue. But 9 months Wounded Bird Records issued it instead, hopefully Vitous got a better deal from WBR than the mighty WEA Corps



Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 06:55
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

You probably already have them but in addition to those, the Elvin Jones – Jan Hammer – Gene Perla CD On The Mountain is a must (same year as Timeless, IIRC), and Horacee Arnold's Tales Of The Exonerated Flea (with Jan) is equally kickass. I think I may prefer Elvin's, though. The two Hammer & David Earle Johnson collaborations are killer—lotsa juicy monophonic Moog work.

Many thanks on the heads-up on these albums, I will certainly try tracking them down - can you say if they are reissued on CD? I see in the UK the later of the two Hammer/Earle Johnson releases is available very cheap through the Vanguard label. Somebody sent me  a sampler of Hammer with some tracks from Hip Address and the live Melodies (very limited edition, I guess, radio  station only release) - Hip Address appears to be available in the US on CD but not in the UK: I really like the percussive edge of the tracks I've heard.



Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 07:04
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

You probably already have them but in addition to those, the Elvin Jones – Jan Hammer – Gene Perla CD On The Mountain is a must (same year as Timeless, IIRC), and Horacee Arnold's Tales Of The Exonerated Flea (with Jan) is equally kickass. I think I may prefer Elvin's, though. The two Hammer & David Earle Johnson collaborations are killer—lotsa juicy monophonic Moog work.

Many thanks on the heads-up on these albums, I will certainly try tracking them down - can you say if they are reissued on CD? I see in the UK the later of the two Hammer/Earle Johnson releases is available very cheap through the Vanguard label. Somebody sent me  a sampler of Hammer with some tracks from Hip Address and the live Melodies (very limited edition, I guess, radio  station only release) - Hip Address appears to be available in the US on CD but not in the UK: I really like the percussive edge of the tracks I've heard.

 

A bit of digging and discovered both the Elvin Jones and Horace(e??) Arnold albums with Jan Hammer are available thru' Amazon UK Marketplace, as cheap imports from USA - now ordered!!!

http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Tales%20of%20the%20Exonerated%20Flea:1921103171:upc=079897461720:page=large-image;_ylt=ArQFYop4qYCWr_gOPcG.eZ0JGbgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBkZmZ1NDR2BHNlYwNwcm9kc3BlY3M-" target=_blank onclick="window.open'/p:Tales%20of%20the%20Exonerated%20Flea:1921103171:upc=079897461720:page=large-image', 'popup', 'width=420,height=450,menubar=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,location=no'; return false; -

Thanks for the advice. Also ordered:



Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 07:43

Hello Dick Health,

I own a copy of "Time Is Free"  (CD Vanguard) and i find it very good.



Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 09:07
     Oh Yeah, Time is Free was an outrageous album, I'd forgotten all about
that. Otherwise, some of my favorite Hammer playing is on Billy Cobham's
"Spectrum", where he tears up with Tommy Bolin on guitar (favorite Hammer
solo ever, on "Quadrant 4") and on Jeff Beck's Wired, which still sounds
amazingly modern and fresh. But The First Seven Days remains my favorite
multi-keyboards album ever, absolutely warm, inspired and innovative.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 12:49
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

You probably already have them but in addition to those, the Elvin Jones – Jan Hammer – Gene Perla CD On The Mountain is a must (same year as Timeless, IIRC), and Horacee Arnold's Tales Of The Exonerated Flea (with Jan) is equally kickass. I think I may prefer Elvin's, though. The two Hammer & David Earle Johnson collaborations are killer—lotsa juicy monophonic Moog work.

Many thanks on the heads-up on these albums, I will certainly try tracking them down - can you say if they are reissued on CD? I see in the UK the later of the two Hammer/Earle Johnson releases is available very cheap through the Vanguard label. Somebody sent me  a sampler of Hammer with some tracks from Hip Address and the live Melodies (very limited edition, I guess, radio  station only release) - Hip Address appears to be available in the US on CD but not in the UK: I really like the percussive edge of the tracks I've heard.

I see you've already placed an order, and yes, all those CDs are available as reissues/remasters. There's a reissue of the Elvin Jones album that's newer (purple cover) than the Wounded Bird reissue but doesn't sound any better, you can go either way. Horacee Arnold's and the Hammer/Johnson Time Is Free  have both gotten the sweet remaster treatment; the latter's packaged as a 'hardcover' along the lines of the OSI special edition. I purchased both TIF  and Tales Of The Exonerated Flea  from Laser's Edge:

http://www.lasercd.com - http://www.lasercd.com

 

 



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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 12:51
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Like Children  is awesome. Too bad it's never been issued on CD.

 

Rumours that it has been remastered and was supposed to be released last year.................

Jan's been trying to get it but they won't let him have it. It pisses me off...

 

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Strange things happen. 3 years ago Atlantic Jazz Remaster had in their schedules the remastered CD of Miroslav Vitous's (with Herbie Hancock) classic jazz funk album Magical Shepherd (I saw several pre-release sheets and articles about it); it didn't happen because the record label couldn't get Vitous's signature on to a contract for the reissue. But 9 months Wounded Bird Records issued it instead, hopefully Vitous got a better deal from WBR than the mighty WEA Corps

Funny you mention this, because I just ordered Magical Shepherd  last night!



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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 04:20

   
  I have had recent satisfaction finding and buying the obscure, through Amazon.UK Marketplace: Horacee Arnold's Tales Of The Exonerated Flea (Hammer, Laird, Abercrombie, Towner, Johnson, David Friedman, etc. - early 70's heavily rhythmic jazz rock, hints of MO, Oregon, Cobham's post-'Spectrum' band, recommended), Elvin Jones' On The Mountain (with Hammer and Gene Peria:  straighter jazz with electricity??? however, only sampled the first two tracks - from the album with the blue sleeve!!!), David Earle Johnson's Time Is Free (Hammer and Johnson in post-Melodies mood - less jazz rock, more rock????) - it appears Hip Address is not available.

 

Thanks for these recommendations. An observation made by the American moderator of Fusenet jazz rock discussion group, is that America can buy ECM back catalogue directly from ECM in Germany (especially albums not freely available in the USA)- therefore John Abercrombie's Timeless and Night (with Hammer, DeJohnette and Mike Brecker on the latter) should be readily available, if not so already in the USA



Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 01:38

How'd  you like On The Mountain and Exonerated Flea ...good sh*t, eh?

I'm sure you can score Hip Address  easily on eBay or half.com.

 



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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 04:12
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

How'd  you like On The Mountain and Exonerated Flea ...good sh*t, eh?

I'm sure you can score Hip Address  easily on eBay or half.com.

 

A lot - one turntablist firend is digging Flea because of the strong groove and seeking out a vinyl version..... On The Mountain is about as "jazz" as I've heard Hammer (Abercrombie pushed him!) and enjoyable because I'm hearing a different aspect of Hammer's musical skills. Somebody in Austria tells me Hip Address is available out there and provided a contact! ALso been informed there is a radio show from the 70's(?) on album, where Hammer Johnson and Abercrombie just jammed - know anything about that?




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