I give up!
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Topic: I give up!
Posted By: Ghandi 2
Subject: I give up!
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 17:34
I officially give up on Yes. I've listened to CTTE at least 12 times, and I don't like it! I'm never going to like it; I hate it more and more every listen. Yes, the first 4 minutes of it are good, the last few minutes of CTTE are good, and parts of And You And I and Siberian Khatru are good, but the rest of it seems to me to be a whole lot of boring nothing. And I'm sorry, but the lyrics make me SO ANGRY! Use complete sentences, damn you! They're so incredibly bad, and I can't ignore them, no matter how hard I try. So I'm no longer going to waste my time putting myself through torment. Relayer=Yes' best album, and perhaps only good album. *ducks*
I also officially give up on King Crimson. I don't like ITCOTCK; it's not that good; and like CTTE, I will never understand why it is so universally heralded as such an amazing album. Simply because it's first does not make it the best, or even good. (although Schizoid Man is good.) I've even listened to what is supposed to be their best song, LTIA pt. 2. All I hear is several power cords repeated on a guitar many, many times; and some cool violin playing, except that Cross is playing the same thing over and over again. And I listened to the song Red, which is also too repetive. But I like The Night Watch.
It's weird that I find Yes boring since I love all of pre-Wall Pink Floyd, which a lot of people here seem to find boring. I'm not a big fan of Jon's voice, and I can't listen to Rush because of Geddy (although overall I think I would rate them higher than Yes); but I just bought H to He, Who Am the Only One.
Any famous prog bands that you should like, but simply don't?
BTW, does anyone want a perfect condition copy of CTTE and/or ITCOTCK? :-) ------------- "Never forget that the human race with technology is like an alcoholic with a barrel of wine." Sleepytime Gorilla Museum: Because in their hearts, everyone secretly loves the Unabomber. |
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Posted By: Greg W
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 17:39
| Like who you want to like and dislike who you want to dislike. Afterall, it is yourself who has to be happy with the music. Personally, Yes isn't my cup of tea either, although I have grown to like them a little. |
Posted By: dagrush
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 17:42
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Yeah, that happens sometimes. Don't fret, there are plenty of other prog bands around. Marillion's about the only one of the bigger bands that I think is horrible. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/omgwtfdagrush/"> 
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 17:44
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Surely if you really disliked those albums, they wouldn't still be in "perfect condition" ?!
I'm gonna duck now.... |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 17:44
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I will Ghandi! My copy of ItCotCK is a copy and I don't have CttE! I agree about Red, that isn't that great a track, in my opinion, it kind of ruins the whole of the album for me. The Night Watch is a great tune and Starless and Bible Black as an album is great. I don't have any Yes though. -------------   
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 17:56
| I had a big problem with Yes for many years until I got to see them live in 1996 ,then I started liking them.I'm completely baffled though as to why anyone would not like ITCOTCK.The only bad thing is the drum sound but everything else is ''WOW'' for me. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 17:57
Genesis. |
Ghandi 2 wrote:Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 17:59
Well if you don't like CTTE there's always Tales.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 17:59
1st four minutes are good?
 - the rest is better- far betterI agree about Relayer- IMO their best also. EASY.
It's OK- I don't like KC either- we are not supposed to like every band- would be boring if everyone liked everything.
Genesis is another band Im iffy on- I like SEBTP- but I find Nursery Crime and Foxtrot boring as hell-
VDGG is also very, very boring in my opinion. Its ok though- some dudes don't like Rush, and they are my fav- that's how it goes
 and oh yeah- Gentle Giant- well, I'd better not go there......
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:04
Well, it's all a matter of taste, I guess I remember I loved CTTE from the first listen, greatest album ever. Same with ITCOTCK, though it took a bit longer to grow on me. Don't give up on KC though, ITCHYCOCK isn't the best album, try Red, if you don't like it(which is hard to do, really  ) then give up.Personally I am yet to hear a prog band that I didn't like for any reason other than its poppiness  Do you like Italian prog BTW? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:07
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...don't worry, ghandhi2,
i don't like CAMEL, GENTLE GIANT or VDGG or any canterbury for that matter, never have, it all sounds so twee and embarrassing, but i can live withthat, everyone to their own - it takes all sorts to make a world!!!  -------------  Prog Archives Tour Van 
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:14
Of the major prog bands who I have listened to extensively: King Crimson do nothing for me as a whole. Yes, I like odd tracks,who wouldnt with a band with such an extensive catalogue. However because they are part of the Classic Prog scene I always feel slightly guilty for not appreciating them. ELP are a slightly different case for me as initially I liked them but now I have grown up I find them almost unbearably pretentious. I would be embarrassed if a friend walked in on me whilst I was listening to one of their albums!! Jethro Tull - too "Hey Nonnie Nonnie" for me. I just cannot find one redeeming feature.Their music seems to go nowhere,slowly. Gentle Giant - what the heck are they supposed to be? Those bizarre vocal harmonies,and songs about nothing I can understand.No,I have tried and failed to "get" these guys. VDGG - eek! A combination of all the above. Hammill's vocal delivery drives me potty,the music is ponderous and dreary. Too "old-fashioned".....? |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:15
true!!!  have you tried Jethro Tull? ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:16
That is why I don't have any ELP albums
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:19
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Posted By: Syntharachnid
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:20
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Oh well, Yes aren't for everyone. They're my personal favorite, but it's only a matter of taste. I agree that the first and last few minutes of the title track are the best parts of CTTE, (aside from the pipe organ/Minimoog/Hammond solo ) but the rest of the album is also exceptional as far as I'm concerned. However, if there were one song over five minutes in length included on any Yes album from TYA to GFTO that I find slightly lacklustre, it'd be Siberian Khatru, so that brings CTTE down a bit. I too find Relayer to be a far stronger album, but I like TFTO better still.
That being said, I'd be curious to know what, aside from Jon's rediculously cryptic and grammatically incorrect lyrics, you dislike about Yes so much as to proclaim them to be "so incredibly bad" before legions of ardent Yes fans. ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:20
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Please lets not start ELP bashing.
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:21
I say we talk about Love Beach!!!
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1876">
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:23
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Nice to see you listening to a Welsh band Snowie! I've not come to dislike any bands yet really. I've not heard enough Yes, Genesis or GG to comment. I didn't really like Echolyn though and apparently they're GG like... -------------
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:24
| I don't like Green Day- oh...wait....... |
Posted By: Syntharachnid
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:24
How can you not like Michael Giles???  -------------
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:31
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Actually, I've heard Tarkus and well... it's embarrassing!
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:32
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I do not like most prominent representatives of Krautrock, such as Can and Faust, I do not like hordes of so called "prog" metal bands, and I do not like tones of cheese produced on regular basis by seemingly grown-up people belonging to neo-prog, but I think it's not the end of the world.
Enjoy other stuff - there is plenty around.
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:33
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And Klaus Schulze is boring me to sleep.... ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:34
I've really gone off you. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:34
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Oh I do like the Tarkus part and there are some good moments, but the album as a whole is only a 3. I've yet to hear other albums by ELP though.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:37
If its too embarrasing, don't bother. you never know someone may tape you and show it on telly. How could you ever live the shame down. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:39
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oh,oh-here comes the Taste Police! |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:39
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I've been on televison already, so I'm used to it. Maybe the last track is just an embarrassment then, even though it really isn't as bad as people say it is. -------------
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:39
give up on Mahavishnu Orchestra. The music makes me queasy.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:42
Not at all ,anyone can like what they want, what do I care? Its just a shame I like most stuff, I hardly get a chance to have a dig at anything. Not that I would anyway. And I wouldn't call anything embarrasing. Unless it was The Cheeky Girls..........but thats not music. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:46
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I like most things in the prog genre too, I've yet to find something I really dislike, except maybe Neo-prog (a lot of what I've heard on the archives anyhow) and Dream Theater (again, what I've heard here), but I don't own any and I don't plan to soon, either. Yes, The Cheeky Girls are definitely embarrassing! -------------
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:52
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I like all prog
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:52
James: You just haven't heard the good stuff.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:55
Prove it  ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:55
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I heard a track by Aufklaerung and that wasn't too bad, but the Marillion I tried didn't work for me. I am not saying it's bad, it's just not my thing. I just really don't like the sound of '80s synths.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:59
Try going to these bands' websites and listening to their samples:
Aisles
Saens Strangefish If the cheesy synth sounds get to you, know that these bands rarely if not all use them. Aisles and Strangefish are very modern-sounding too.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:01
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I have a Strangefish album to listen to actually, Stonie, or I think I do!
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:05
but I wouldnt be embarrased if a friend caught me with the Cheeky Girls......  Oh,and to stay on topic ( ) I should have mentioned the totally unmusical works of Hawkwind,Gong,Magma,Amon Duul (in all its guises),TMV,Dream Theater.... |
Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:07
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I don't care much for ELP. Bits are OK (Pictures), but generally too pompous. Brain Salad Surgery is abominable. Trace did it much better. Yes is very mixed: I love The Yes Album, like Relayer and CTTE but find Tales and Fragile quite poor (except Roundabout). I absolutely hate Floyd's early stuff and dislike their later stuff but love from Atom Heart Mother to Animals. I love the instrumental parts of Van der Graaf (except the cha cha cha on Sleepwalkers) but detest the vocals; they spoil the whole thing. King Crimson do little for me; ITCOTCK is terribly mixed but is the only album that does anything for me at all. Red is BORING! Dream Theater are fabulous musicians but their music is cold, emotionless and too flashy. However, the latest addition to "bands that are very popular but I really don't like" is The Mars Volta. I just don't get them. Oh, and Dillinger Escape Plan. I wish it had failed. But Anglagard, Opeth, Sigur Ros, Ayreon and (especially) Mostly Autumn have all been discovered by me through this site and are added to the bands like Camel, Strawbs, Tull, Genesis, Gryphon, Caravan, Gentle Giant, Floyd, Horslips, Focus, BJH, The Enid, Wishbone Ash, Marillion, Solution, PFM, Trace and Rush which form the bulk of my prog listening. Noone will like everything on this site. Pick what you like and enjoy it, leave the rest alone. And don't get a complex about it. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:08
 Need any more proof? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:09
If I cared about what other people thought about the music I listen to I would have stopped listening to prog a long time ago (especially Gentle Giant and VDGG.) None of my friends listen to symph or old prog like me. They think it's ridicules music, so whether it's Genesis, ELP, Gentle Giant, or Yes most people would make fun of it anyway. The day you start caring about what others think about what your listening to is the day that you REALLY limit the prog bands that you listen to. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:12
You disappoint me  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:14
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Tony's just seeing how many enemies he can build. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:19
Yes,the kit arrived this morning,flatpacked.... |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:21
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Ikea or MFI? -------------
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 20:22
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<<Marillion's about the only one of the bigger bands that I think is horrible.>>
You need to give 'em another listen then. The music is just too friggin' brilliant. I do like Yes; however, as a prog fan I felt the need to get some King Crimson. I just can't grab a hold of them like the majority can. They're a band who I really wished I liked; however, some of their discs just stall. I bought Discipline a few weeks ago and it felt like it took forever. The long and the short of it is I just don't like weird sounds in my music. I never have. I'm a huge Pat Metheny fan, but he sometimes has little clanks and clunks here and there and I find myself getting bored. I've also tried both Riversides and it's metal to these ears. That might be good for most of you, but I like my music more metal free. Dream Theater is the exception. I also steer away from bleak, 'woe is me' music. Riverside are just too depressing for me. Again, I wish I liked them, but I don't. E ------------- 
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 20:57
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I respect all opinions... I don't like Tool- I don't like Dream Theatre - I don't like Britney Beers... oh, sorry, Spears - I don't like fetuccini - I don't like Tom Cruise's movies (except Legend) - And I deffinetively don't like sunny days... If you don't like Yes or King Crimson, that's ok... ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 22:26
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CTTE - I love the lyrics to this album, they do make sense to highly intelligent people.
KC - ITCOTCK- This album is boring to me i only can tolerate Epitaph. Don't like greg lake's voice
although i think he sings better with KC. ELP are noisey wahh waahh keyboard sound.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 22:30
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Oh i do Hate DT and Tool
But Opeth and APC Rock
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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 22:34
I don't necessarily agree with you, but that is mighty funny!------------- Pure Brilliance: 
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Posted By: stechell
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 23:36
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Never give up with a band.
King Crimson is my favourite band as VDGG.
First time I listened VDGG did not like them at all. Thought it was too pompous music for me, but they sounded different there was something special in their music. Then decided to listen their first album. I loved it. Now VDGG is one of my top 5 bands.
 Rush has some interesting music, but can't stand Geddy's voice. Anyway, I can now watch their DVD!!! Dream Theatre another impossible band. The most overrated band ever!!! Gave up with them, but nevermind absolutely no major interest. If I want to listen some great Prog metal, I spin my Threshold, Anathema, or PT's Deadwing albums
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 23:44
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YES are going to create a special song for you: "GO TO HELL!, GO TO HELL!, WE HAVE A LOT OF DOLLARS AND WE LIVE LIKE WE WANT!, SO, GO TO HELL!; GO TO HELL!...just kidding. I'm actually bored with YES, I use to hate them, then I started to enjoy them, then, they just bored me. I'm into the Kate Bush side now, I almost never touch the YES albums, so I'm for going to hell as well... ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 00:35
That's the spirit  ------------- 
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 00:39
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 01:48
Its the sound of the drums I'm not keen on.The production makes them sound very odd to my ears.I don't have any problem with Giles who is a very fine drummer.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 02:21
hasn't anybody heard of poetic licence???? ------------- Prog Archives Tour Van
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Posted By: razifa
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 02:37
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There are bands which I have problems, I mean I do not listen to them as good as many say: Tool, Stramonio, Rhapsody (I just can't stand them, too repetitive), Radiohead. ------------- ********** **razifa** ********** |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 02:38
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Amongst the big names: Rush, Marillion, KC with A.Belew ... I have given up these ones.I can't stand The Wall either, despite my love for P.Flkoyd. CTTE and In the Court are amongst my all time classics.Since Progrock is not a real genre, I find opposite extreme feelings quite understanding. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 04:18
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What's the problem? You're entitled to like or dislike whatever you want. Taste is an extremely individual thing, and it applies to any art form. To give you an example, I don't like St Peter's Basilica (I'm from Rome, so I know it quite well), as I find it too grandiose and somewhat soulless - but this doesn't stop people from all over the world from flocking there and loving it, or art critics from describing it as a masterpiece.
Back to music, CTTE was my first Yes album, and it was love at first hearing. "Relayer", on the other hand, did not impress me too much, and I've hardly ever listened to it for a number of years. Marillion's "Misplaced Childhood" is widely held to be their masterpiece, but it bores me to tears. I've tried to get into Dream Theater without success (though I rather like "Images and Words"). I find John Wetton a competent singer, but not the wonder vocalist that many think he is.... The list could go on and on. However, it's not a problem for me, because that's how things are - we are all different and like different things, thank heavens for that!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 04:26
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Amongst the big ones, Rush, Marillion, KC with A.Belew... I've given up these ones. I can't stand The Wall, despite I love PF. CTTE and In the Court are amongst my all-time classcics. But since prog is not really a genre, I'm not surprised about those extreme opposite feelings.
Love and Peace.
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Posted By: oracus
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 04:37
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I can't get King Crimson. I've tried but i can't. Yes are not as great are evrybody says ------------- 
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Posted By: oracus
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 04:42
Which is the album on top (right side) with a very good looking artwork? -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 05:01
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^ Either you are refering to Adam and Eve by The Flower Kings or Tha Masquerade Overture by Pendragon. I'm sure it would be far easier for Tony R to list the bands he does like! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 05:32
What a collection of nonsense statements.
What do you like than ?
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Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 05:40
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I can easily confess that I hate Selling England By The Pound but love Foxtrot.
I sort of hate Genesis, but I like to listen to some of their albums. Their overall sound is too square to me, and Gabriel's voice is sometimes a nightmare. Yet I love the voice of Derek Shulman and Colin Goldring, and there a lot of similarities between Gabriel and them.
Obviously the difference that defines hate/love is made of very small details. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/osmotapioraihala/sets" rel="nofollow - Composer - Click to listen to my works! |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 05:41
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I never give up!
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Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 06:04
Thats the way to go
, I thought the same with Can, I just didn't get the Kraut rock thing at first but I stuck with them, It's taken me months of repeated listens but finally I got them. I have the same approach with traditional Jazz and some pre Rock music, since after all my generation is rock based. But hanging in there and not giving uop is really rewarding in the end.I can understand that CTTE may be hard for some with the heaped expectations of it being the no1 album on this website, and then being somewhat dissapointed. Personally I think CTTE is overated I don't think the 20 minute title track is the best epic ever, I prefer Gates of Delerium, Awaken and the first two movements of Tales of Topog than CTTE. So I understand if it isn't the greatist album in your eyes, personally I think their are albums by other artists that have made albums just as good as that, so I'd take the poll with a grain of salt. ------------- |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 06:22
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70's. Just ELP and Rush. I think I've given them both a good try. Edit: and Eloy. No chance to ever get over those vocals. The progbands (metal and neo) I like from the 80's 90's and the 00's are not too many I'm afraid. Given up on far too many to mention. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 07:02
Can't you take a differing opinion? I see nothing nonsensical about Tony R's views on these bands, and I love all of them, except ELP (whom I like still).
I'm not a big fan of Yes or Genesis, I love the odd song, such as 'And You and I' or 'Supper's Ready', but on the whole Yes tends to sound a bit shallow (with little in the way of a 'toungue-in-cheek' factor to redeem it) and Genesis a bit clumsy.
Also Magma and Can failed to impress me as much as they were supposed to.
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 07:20
No, I don't understand.
There is to much essential prog bands Tony doesn't like.
You can't go to football match every sunday and than said that you dont't like it.
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 07:28
What about Proto-Prog, Prog Related, Indo/Raga Prog, Krautrock etc?? ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 07:35
It's simple: I like football, but only what I consider to be football at the highest level, therefore I don't watch the Polish league, for example. And similarly, Tony doesn't watch football teams he doesn't like - he only watches Rush... er, that is Bolton Wanderers
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 07:38
^ Even Bolton Wanderers are not quite good enough for Tony's refined tastes, he's a Man Utd fan! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 07:40
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Yes, I understand your point.
But we have problem here because the bands he don't like are: Arsenal, Chelsea, Juventus and Real Madrid of prog.
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 07:43
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 07:45
We once had a thread where we compared prog bands to football teams and I said Real Madrid was Asia...
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 07:49
Hmmm-let's see:
it isnt nonsensensical for me to say "they do nothing for me as a whole" that's a statement about my tastes. If they are different to yours then I cannot help that.
"I find them......I would be"...you getting the picture here? If you need any more help with using basic analytical skills or even just basic intelligence or good manners then PM immediately and we can discuss this... |
Posted By: pero
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 07:51
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King Crimson - Chelsea
ELP - Juventus
Jethro tull - Bayern
VDGG - Juventus
Gentle Giant - Barcelona
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 07:54
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Pero-you can find my likes here: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=2153 - http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=2153 |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 07:55
That is so subjective. Your opinion that's all! King Crimson are influential,that is not the same as successful...... |
Posted By: pero
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 07:59
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As I said earlier:
"There is to much essential prog bands Tony doesn't like."
You are a member of the group of people who are here because they like prog.
If you don't like essential prog bands that is what I can't understand.
I don't like Dream theatar, Marillion, Ayreon but I don't argue with people who likes them.
Sorry if I was rude in earlier post.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 08:05
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If you notice most of the bands I dislike were at the height of their popularity before I was a teenager. I think that is the key.... There are 2348 bands on the archive. Something for everbody I think! Comparing Prog Bands to football teams is nonsensical.......................... |
Posted By: pero
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 08:16
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Rush is formed in 1968, even earlier then GG, KC, ELP and VDGG if I'm well informed. |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 08:34
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Their first album was 1974,their first "prog" album was 1976..... Their first album to be given official release in the UK was 1977....need I continue?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 08:35
| rush must have taken 10 years to hit top gear. Hemispheres was their first very good album :D |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 08:38
So what the hell are you doing at this forum? lol. You obviously don't like real prog. Maybe you like the modern music which has been wrongly been categorised as prog ;)
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 08:40
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"real prog" DEFINE!  |
Posted By: pero
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 08:43
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 08:44
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Real Prog A form of music not favoured by Admin member Tony R I found this...hope it helps. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 08:45
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