On what track did Neil Peart do his best drumming?
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Topic: On what track did Neil Peart do his best drumming?
Posted By: lastdodobird
Subject: On what track did Neil Peart do his best drumming?
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 10:45
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I'm pretty fond of YYZ. I have been even I got started with this whole prog rock thing. I was just wondering if that's his best drum work ever? If not, then what is? Peace! |
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 11:01
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It's so hard to pick just one. As far as instrumentals go I love
YYZ, but I think La Villa Strangiato is better, both for drums and
overall. For his craziest speed work, check out the "Didacts and
Narpets" section of The Fountain of Lamneth. |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 11:04
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Man, that's like asking if Halle Berry looks hotter in a bikini, snap-crotch teddy, or nothing at all.
"The Camera Eye" is one of my favorites. Especially that opening sequence and his impeccable ride cymbal rhythm. The middle section of "Subdivisions" and "The Spirit Of Radio" is pretty cool, too. Man, this is too tough. E ------------- 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 11:09
I would agree - I like the bit he comes in with on La Villa Strangiato. I would also throw in By-Tor and The Snow Dog, Something For Nothing, Xanadu and there's probably loads more.
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NaturalScience wrote:Posted By: lastdodobird
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 11:11
That's easy! Nothing at all!  Anyway, thanks for the replies. Neil is probably my favorite drummer out there along with DMB's Carter Beuford. I just wanted to know on what track he shows his skillz the most. |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 11:18
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<<That's easy! Nothing at all!>>
Man, I don't know. That image of her slinking out of her skivvies in Swordfish causes my BP to jump like crazy. I love Beauford's style. Very unorthodox, but the man can flat out play. It's not progressive, but one of the most underrated drummers is Richie Hayward of Little Feat. The man has a very unique style. Got to watch him perform while standing behind his kit at a small club here in town. The man put on a clinic. E -------------
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Posted By: lastdodobird
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 11:27
Okay then. But Monster's Ball will always have a special place in my heart. Haha.Yeah, I agree that Carter is very unorthodox, but awsome to listen to at the same time. It's a pity that DMB - being the excellent musicians that they are - have not put out any good albums since the late 90s... Anyway, I've listened to La Villa Strangiato already, and I think I still prefer YYZ. It's just so intense that's it's awesome. Speaking of YYZ, have you guys already seen this? Pretty nifty --> http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/Neilpeartair.html - http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/Neilpeartair.html |
Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 11:30
So many to consider but I think I`ll go for Natural Science from the album Perminant Waves just to be differant 
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 11:40
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Monsters Ball was ruined by Billy Bob Thornton. Some people should be black listed from doing nude scenes, and ol' Billy Bob is up there.
I've got that animated movie on DVD. I love it that they used his old kit, too. I really miss that configuration of Peart's kit. I don't mind it being streamlined and thought his Roll The Bones/Counterparts kit was pretty cool; however, some of his tom fills sound a bit odd with his new set up. Still, watching the man play is always a treat. E -------------
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 11:50
| Natural Science has some great drumming. |
Posted By: riversdancing
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 11:57
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Oh ,that's a tough one. Probably on Natural Science, but I like the performance on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmcVI47GGJU - Subdivisions , The Weapon and Red Sector A (check them on the GUPT video) |
Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 12:01
what is "GUPT video"?
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 12:36
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La Villa Strangiato
Also check out the instrumental section of 'Freewill' Amazing! ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: riversdancing
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 12:44
The VHS tape, released under the title 'Grace Under Pressure Tour' in '85. The forthcoming dvd box contains it. I managed to buy the original vhs edition several years ago in near mint condition. |
Posted By: rushfan6588
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 12:46
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Hmmmm....this may not count..but DER TROMMLER is fantastic. ------------- If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice. |
Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 13:08
| i think "RED BARCHETTA" |
Posted By: deafmoon
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 14:03
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My personal pick for best is Hemispheres. That track has it all with great tightness. ------------- Deafmoon |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 14:14
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"I'm wanting to add "Limelight", "Driven", and "Cygnus X-1". So many to choose from.
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Posted By: fogwalker
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 14:55
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"Tom Sawyer" is the one that always incites me to indulge in the (probably illegal) activity of in-car air-drumming. |
Posted By: lastdodobird
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 21:40
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oh wow. the answers here are so varied that it seems no one track stands out
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 22:01
That is my all-time favorite Rush concert film, and is pretty hard to find today. About 5 years ago, my GF surprised me with a used copy of it she found on E-Bay (what a gal!). I can't wait for the DVD box. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 22:11
Subdivisions!!!!
 either that or The Analog Kid.  Not the most complex, but damn does he do a fine jub of complementing those songs.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 22:48
That's definitely the first DVD I'm poppin' in! And we get an audio CD of it — awesome. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Mr. Sanchez
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 23:24
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Yes...I agree with Subdivisions. and YYZ also. ------------- It's Calling Me Back To My Home. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 02:17
| Tom Sawyer without doubt..in fact the whole of that album (Moving Pictures) is a masterclass in prog rock drumming. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 14:53
Subdivisions!!!!
either that or The Analog Kid. [/QUOTE I like subdivisions for the fact that the whole band toned everything down. Not the most complex, but damn does he do a fine jub of complementing those songs. ------------- |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 14:58
Cant argue with that. I love his drum sound on that album too. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Proteus
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:36
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Xanadu was the first track that I heard of Rush that made me open my eyes and say something to the effect of "&%$#@, How'd he DO that?" (And in 7/8 time to boot...)
-Proteus
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Posted By: DrGoon
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 21:14
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The Weapon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1feRawZ1osM&search=peart |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 22:58
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I canNOT wait for the DVD(s)!!! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 01:06
Definitely. Sticking to 'Tom Sawyer' over and over again was how I first learned about the so-called 'tripleted triplets' - that finely crafted fill that Peart places in the middle of the Sawyer bridge section.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 01:27
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The production on Moving Pictures is unreal! Alex's tone on that CD is his best ever, maybe THE best ever. Those notes in the "Limelight" solo just sizzle!! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Xanaduian
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 13:56
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Haha i hear ya. Right after Lifeson's solo Peart goes completely bonkers. I love it. Other than that i would say Subdivisions. ------------- Follow men's eyes as they look to the skies, The shifting shafts of shining weave the fabric of their dreams. |
Posted By: unforgivable74
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 16:08
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Cygnus X-1. The fills are incredible.
------------- Laughs as I clean my teeth, laughs as I rub at my eyes. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 17:31
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Neil Peart has excellent technique, but that doesn't make him a good
drummer. He has one problem: He is too anally retentive. To be a really
good drummer one has to be able to let loose, which is a quality
missing in Peart. And before the Peart fan-club protest because I call
him "anally retentive", they should look up the meaning of it and then
ask themselves if the term is not properly used for a person who not
only has been playing the same solo for years (something Peart fans
strangely praise him for; I would kick a drummer into the family jewels
if he dared to offer me the same solo twice), he even made a video
about it in which he explains it in detail! That is the anally
retentive personality to a T. Mark well, I don't doubt he is
technically excellent, but that is not enough for being a good drummer.
-------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Dr4Wazo
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 18:46
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Limbo's intro is kinda fun, best drumming... certainly not... he always kicks ass!
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 19:43
You're right. He's terrible. My Rush CDs are going in the trash tonight. |
Posted By: SGSpecial
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 19:52
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der Krommler
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Posted By: Zoso
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 23:20
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I love Peart, especially on Limelight, Tom Sawyer and Cygnus. And I also agree that Carter Beauford is an incredible drummer. He's even more incredible live. -------------  |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 03 2006 at 04:37
+1. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 03 2006 at 13:48
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Maybe not the best, but I was inmediatly impressed with Tom Sawyers drumms, actually it was the first song I heard from Rush also. But I loved the way he palys that 4/4 so difficult and original you think it must be like 18/17 or something
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: September 03 2006 at 13:48
If only 18/17 was a time signature.  ------------- 
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 03 2006 at 23:32
Can you toss all mine while you're at it? DVDs, too.  ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: MadcapLaughs84
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 01:57
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I guess La villa Strangiato and Tom Sawyer ------------- 
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 02:33
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One Little Victory has a great drum part, although it is a bit overpowering.
------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: Proteus
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 08:24
Funny, this thread remained dormant for a while, then suddenly picked up...
The "same" drum solo referenced has also been one that has evolved over the years (decades, really). I think fans appreciate it as they do any Rush "song." It's been different every time I've heard it live. Yes, there are some of the same rythms dating back to All the World's a Stage - but they are classic Peart, part of his identity. I do agree about being somewhat anal retentive and maybe he shies away from improv during shows, but one thing I've always liked about Peart is that he's NEVER sloppy. Hey, it takes all kinds...
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 08:58
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Posted By: acheron
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 14:18
| Anthem |
Posted By: Flip_Stone
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 18:36
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Boon's Bane from Exit Stage Left.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 18:38
Naughty! Cant you here my Rushian Devil Hounds scratching at your door....
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 18:50
Some basic errors. 1st you dont answer the question 2nd you pose another question and thirdly you can t compare rock drumming and jazz drumming directly. Who is to say that the best Jazz Drummer is better than the best pop drummer,never mind the best Rock/Prog drummer? |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 19:10
Fiddlesticks....or should that be drumsticks! AS already stated Peart has some basic patterns that he keeps for his solo-the idea being that the whole piece represents a potted history of drumming:tribal drums,ethnic drums,jazz etc. At the end of the day his drum solo is a piece of music he wrote back in 1974,and as such it has obviously evolved into something bigger and better.However,just as one would expect to recognise say 2112 when it is played in concert,one would also expect to be able to recognise basic themes in the drum solo.It isnt meant to be a free-form improv.
says who? You? That is strictly a matter of opinion and taste. It is also not the way Rush play their music,nor is it the way for many bands-Yes,Genesis and countless others all like to stay reasonably faithful to the originals and whether you agree or like this is again purely a matter of taste.Neil Peart has said that he felt cheated when attending a concert if a favourite piece of music, as presented live by the band, sounded nothing like the original..... As for the DVD about his drum solo,well,yet again,if there is a market for this then....so what? Are you telling me that if someone came to you and said "hey,how about making a DVD of your drum solo BF,I know there is a massive market for it.." you'd say "no way"? You'd say,"well my solo is free-form improv,different every night,so I have no way to convey my thoughts on how to improvise-keep your $100,000.."????? Dont think so... Drumming is his art,his career,his job-so why shouldnt he make money off it? It isnt anally-retentive on Peart's part,I would have thought that you might be able to hurl that insult at the consumer.. |
Posted By: willy
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 20:29
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Bravado. Awesome polyrhythm he lets down towards the end. I cant believe nobodys mentioned it yet.
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: September 05 2006 at 21:03
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there are many possible choices, but it seems Peart was at his best at:
1-the end of subdivisions
2-the end of red barchetta
3-anthem
4-hemisoheres
5-villa stangiato
6-natural science
7-camera eye
8-xanadu
9cygnus x-1
10-digital man
11-tom sawyer
12-didacts & narpets
13-fly by night
14-beneath, between & behind
15-by thor & snow dog
16-best i can
and, globally, Peart was at his best on the Fly By Night album! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: mr_johnny_lee
Date Posted: September 06 2006 at 17:40
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I love the drum fills he does on "By Tor and The Snow Dog" but I don't think it is his best performance overall. ------------- Jon Sheffield, England (currently residing in Tokyo, Japan) |
Posted By: Ghostnote
Date Posted: September 06 2006 at 21:37
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There are many great Neil Peart drum parts, but there's a song on the SIGNALS album that
should be checked out. I'm talking about the song DIGITAL MAN.
The combination of straight 4/4 time, interlaced with a reggae groove and incredible drum
fills should make this track one to be considered when discussing some of Neil's best drumming.
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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: September 06 2006 at 21:40
| I heard on "Bravado" Peart does something called limb representation at the end of the song, however, I do not know what it exactly is, but know only a handful of drummer s can pull it off like Cobham and Carey |
Posted By: willy
Date Posted: September 06 2006 at 22:29
Yea, I cant really understand what happens during that section of the song, but all I know is that it is ridiculously amazing. -------------
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Posted By: Angeldust
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 04:57
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Something from Test for echo definately!!!!!! ------------- 
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