Marillion Poll
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Topic: Marillion Poll
Posted By: E-Dub
Subject: Marillion Poll
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 12:16
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I delved into the archives and didn't see a poll like this one, so I'd thought I'd toss this one out. After watching Marbles On The Road this weekend, it's so good to see this band still making great music. What's even better is seeing how well Marbles was received--it has really put this band back on track. Anyway, the Hogarth era has been going on about 16-17 years now, which is a lot longer than the Fish administration. I think Hogarth came in to a band that had had enough of their former lead singer and basically rescued Marillion. Have all the albums been good? No. Together with the rest of the band, however, we've definitely seen greatness.
Lastly, I saw on one poll asking what was the best H era Marillion album, and one person ended theirs by saying, "Marillion just isn't the same without Fish." I would agree. I would also say, "Thank goodness." E ------------- 
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Posted By: Tasartir
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 12:53
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He would have left after the next album definetely. Fish just had to make his own road, by himself. ------------- ...Histoires Sans Paroles... |
Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 13:39
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I agree. Which is a pity because the Hogarth era does not even come close to the Fish era in terms of quality. IMO of course.
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 13:52
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This is where we disagree because Brave, Marbles, and Afraid Of Sunlight are every bit as good (if not better) than Fish era. Misplaced gives them a run, but Brave (especially) is a great album. Just never get tired of it.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 13:59
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He wanted to leave. So, if he had to stay past CaS, it would only be for one album, unless he had a change of heart. On reflection, Marillion were possibly better off without Fish, at least in the long run. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 15:05
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I'll agree with the rest of them. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 15:58
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Just trying to convince myself to Marbles and I am longing for Fish although I agree H has better voice. At least Fish era Marillion did not make me want to sleep.
They should come back to Derek and lick his feet and they will rule. They would be great until now!!
So I picked first option, out of pure perversity. ------------- yet you still have time! |
Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 16:00
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I can't see that early 80s Marillion style being carried over into the
90s unless they would have undergone a big change. But they did
that with Hogarth so...
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 16:14
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To be honest if Fish continued with them the hole band would probably have imploded, besides, he was almost completely lost in self pitty on CAS IMO, its hard to see where Fish would have taken them after that.
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Posted By: piltdown man
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 16:37
| I believe it was all up to Fish if he wanted in or out of Marillion. In case of him staying in the band it would only have been for a follow up. Nowadays I think it´s quite clear that Fish is missing the Marillios than the band is missing him; H is a great singer and good writer. They are doing fine but I think Fish is missing someone who can write really good music for his often well-written lyrics. |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 16:44
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I think there's possible truth in all opinions posted here, but I think the poll is wrong. Fish would have left at some point, be it after CAS or one of it's successors, but option one is true regardless of when he left. At least to me... and Marillion with H are living proof of it.... Angelo - putting in his two cents ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 17:39
Fish left because of issues with the band and the music business in general, so I guess he would only be more frustrated if he stayed with the band and would have left after the follow-up... but luckily that didn't happen, because then we wouldn't have had Steve Hogarth, because he would be a milkman at that time 
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Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 23:16
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...and I am very happy that H joined this band. Say what you will, but the man has some effing soul. ------------- ARTEMIA - http://www.reverbnation.com/artemiamusic" rel="nofollow - http://www.reverbnation.com/artemiamusic L.i.E. - http://www.reverbnati |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 23:21
'Tis true...  ------------- 
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Tristan Mulders wrote:Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 23:23
I think that Frank Usher (the principal music writer for Fish) writes stuff that really compliments the type of sound that Fish wants. The rest of his many incarnations of his band also helped create good music to coincide with Fish's beautiful lyrics. -------------
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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 03:57
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read the excellent biography "separated out" by jon
collins. apparently the band was in deeeeeeep sh*t during the CAS-period (the various reasons are better commented elsewhere) therefore fish leaving was an inevitable thing. ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: Under
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 07:14
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Well, IF Fish stayed probably they would have gone to the mountains for a month and do some serious talking.
Thereafter probably Steve Rothery would have left and they would have asked Steve Hackett, who had produced one great solo album, one good solo album and one nice solo album and was sliding into the depth of history.
The band would be amazing.....
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Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 09:10
Agreed. Though Fish really needs a consistant band to work with him. |
Posted By: piltdown man
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 09:49
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I think that Frank Usher (the principal music writer for Fish) writes stuff that really compliments the type of sound that Fish wants. The rest of his many incarnations of his band also helped create good music to coincide with Fish's beautiful lyrics. [/QUOTE]Agreed. Though Fish really needs a consistant band to work with him. [/QUOTE] Actually Frank Usher doesn´t write much music for Fish - I´d say only a handful of songs during Fish´s solo career, about 8 albums. Personally I like Mickey Simmonds work on Vigil... and Turrell/Daghorns music on Raingods best. But I agree the changes in line-up makes the it difficult to know if you´re going to like the next Fish-album.
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 12:59
Agree... Being realistic, that's exactly what would happen--- ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 14:28
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Prefer Fish era! Just can't get into Hogarth! ------------- In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 19:32
Agreed. Though Fish really needs a consistant band to work with him. [/QUOTE] Actually Frank Usher doesn´t write much music for Fish - I´d say only a handful of songs during Fish´s solo career, about 8 albums. Personally I like Mickey Simmonds work on Vigil... and Turrell/Daghorns music on Raingods best. But I agree the changes in line-up makes the it difficult to know if you´re going to like the next Fish-album. [/QUOTE]
I know later in his solo career (on his most recent album, Field of Crows, for example), Usher worked on most of the music. If Fish gets a consistent lineup to work with, then one may know what the next Fish album may sound like, because with all the different musicians he's had over the years, his sound has changed dramatically. -------------
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 19:43
I have to disagree there. True, Marillion with Hackett would have been amazing, but he has done much more than three noteworthy albums. And, just like Fish, needs to do his own thing. It's a shame that Fish had to leave, because I just don't care for the band with Hogarth. I do like a lot of his solo work, but I can understand the comments about him needing consistency. The whole was definitely greater than the sum of its parts. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Under
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 16:43
| ^ Perhaps your are right. Hackett could not have fitted in Marillion. He would be the father giving guidance and structure to these fighting lads. Probably not his thing to do.... |