The album that dissapointed you heavily
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Topic: The album that dissapointed you heavily
Posted By: bsurmano
Subject: The album that dissapointed you heavily
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 07:36
What's the name of the album that have you dissapointed most or betrayed (so to say) your expectations. Let's say that you'd rated it with one (*) or two stars (**) in your review.
For example, to me one of such is 'Discipline' by King Crimson. Though the best of 3 (Discipline, Beat, Three of a perfect Pair) I would rate it with ** stars; I remember that at the time before first listening , I've expected to hear 69-74 Crimson tune and dissapointment was really huge and stayed to nowadays.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 07:43
Yes-Tales From Topografic Oceans
Genesis-And Then There Were Three
Rush-Presto
ELP-Love Beach
Marillion-Clutching At Straws
See my reviews...  +  + =  ....
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 08:05
Spock's Beard - Beware of Darkness
As I've recounted before; I was poor, I could afford one CD, I had read
masses of rave reviews of this band online, and I was just horrified.
Now, had people actually mentioned their AOR streak, I might not have
made that purchase, and maybe later come to terms with them on more
realistic terms.
Marillion - Misplaced Chidhood
I was a huge Marillion fan back in the day. This album came out while
we were interrailing in the UK, me and my biggest Prog buddy at the
time. We carried it around for a few days, reading the lyrics and
studying the sleeve before finally getting the chance to listen to it at his cousin's house.
I remember the both of us just looking at each other in confusion; was
this really the band we had hitchhiked to Copenhagen to see? The one we
hade queued for a week to get Stockholm tickets? The one we had
interviewed all members of (not just Fish)? It was just baffling.
That one time through was all we had for a week or so (a week in which
we saw IQ live four times), and we would discuss it every now and
again, agreeing that surely we would find more than some segued Pop
tunes in those two epics once we got back home. Sadly, we never did.
Talvin Singh - Ha
Talvin Singh's first "proper" album OK is still one of the great 90's
Electronica albums with fantastic Indian strings, som really complex
structures and fun and adventurous tunes (Prog, if you ask me). So, for
the follow-up to be just lacklustre and repetitive, with overtones of
House (gah!) was a terrible disappointment. I pull it out every now and
again thinking it must be better than I remember it. Nope.
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Posted By: aprusso
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 08:10
1. Whatever Dream Theater did after Metropolis
2. Transatlantic 1 & 2
3. Whatever Flower Kings did after Retropolis
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Posted By: TheLamb
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 08:20
Six Degrees of Inner Trubulence has its moments but I was definitely expecting more. big disapointment
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 08:21
Teaflax wrote:
Spock's Beard - Beware of Darkness
As I've recounted before; I was poor, I could afford one CD, I had read
masses of rave reviews of this band online, and I was just horrified.
Now, had people actually mentioned their AOR streak, I might not have
made that purchase, and maybe later come to terms with them on more
realistic terms.
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Have you ever heard "The Light"? I own the first two SB albums and I vastly
prefer the second to the first. In fact, "The Light" is my choice
for the album that disappointed me the most, I tried and tried but
simply could not get into it (although the second track is at least
passable). I would definitely not rank this album above 2 stars.
I'm at a real hesitation point about both Spock's Beard and The Flower
Kings...some of the music is quite good, but I'm starting to wonder if
accumulating the entire catalogs is the wrong use of monetary and
listening investment, especially when there are a lot of quality new
bands as well as old ones which I'm still discovering.
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 08:22
Dream Theater - Octovarium (didn't know DT before this, it was OK but didn't really light my fire);
Spocks Beard - The Light -recommended to me as I like "classic" symphonic like Yes etc - but this was a mish-mash of styles, most disappointing
Steve Vai - Passion and Warfare - not really prog; I knew Vai's work from his Zappa days but despite the man's technical ability, musically it didn't do anything for me.
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 08:46
TheLamb wrote:
Six Degrees of Inner Trubulence has its moments but I was definitely expecting more. big disapointment |
Besides "Solitary Shell" I was also dissapointed with this album, it just seemed to be going nowhere.
Also Grace Under Pressure-Rush and Kansas-Audiovisions.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 09:04
If we are talking about prog: Tormato... after such a great album that was Going for the one the same lin up comes up with this? its probobly not the worst album i have ever heard it got some good stuff but if you comper it with GFTO its pathetic.
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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 09:09
The Final Cut. We even got an expression in Dutch: "Finaal kut!", which means 'definitely crap'.
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 09:17
Well, there are lots that failed to come up to scratch.......one notable one, not because everyone else rated it highly (they didn't), but because of my own self-constructed expectation........Greg Lake's "solo" album (with Gary Moore)............I figured together they ought to produce something different.........but it's very disappointing, inferior even to many of Moore's solo works.........just semi-heavy rock, played at half intensity........
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 09:18
Rush's Test For Echo and Vapor Trails were bit of a let down
The Tangent's A Place In The Queue (WOW! Boring as @#$*&!)
Dream Theater's Train Of Thought
Glass Hammer's Chronometree and The Middle Earth Album
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 09:18
Camel - Rain dances. This album was like ten steps back from the incredible Moonmadness. It broke my heart 
Mago de Oz - Gaia II. Another dissapointment. They turned more commercial album after album, but strangely, they become more porggier album after album. Some songs from the first disc and some from the second disc (+ the epic wich its a must listen) are the ones worth saving.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 09:19
Tool - 10,000 days
Genesis - Genesis (1980's) also Invisible touch
Yes - Open your Eyes, Talk
Rush - Test For echo
Led Zep - In through the out door
TMV - Both of thier albums
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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 09:23
Djam Karet live at the orion, I listened to it a few times but found I didn`t get into it, a very arty farty CD I think (talented band though) I kept thinking that if I am going to listen to this type of stuff I`ll stick with King Crimson, they do arty farty best. So in the end I didn`t enjoy Djam Karet it was weird? I should have liked them but I didn`t. Another band I am having trouble getting into is After Crying . I like some aspects of the bootleg symphony (in places its warm and lush) but once again a little over the top on the arty farty scale of things
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Posted By: tarkus2112
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 09:28
Genesis in 80's
Yes-Big Generator and Talk
Metallica-Anything after Justice
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 09:31
definetly Tubular Bells 2.
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 09:39
Yeah, how could I forget: Yes - Open Your Eyes
While I thought the Keys tunes weren't all that great and horribly
produced, at least it seemed to point to an actual interest in
stretching out to long-form again and maybe since those songs had a bit
of a demo feel, a properly produced, arranged and recorded album from a
somewhat revitalised Yes might have something worth listening to.
Wow, was I ever wrong.
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 09:41
On the progressive side of things. There have been a few albums that have let me down. I think the most out of these would have to be.
Utopia - Todd Rundgren's Utopia
After hereing the streamed track here on the archives, "Utopia Theme" quickly became one of those song I could listen to on repeat. In the course of time, I stubbled across the album in my local store. I thought I was in heaven... I could hardly wait to get home to put the disc in my player. Putting it on, the farmiliar sound of the first song hit me like it never had before. Now coming up to the unknown tracks of the album. I found the middle tracks just seemed filler till the epic of the album. So in anticipation I wait. But the last track did nothing for me as well, it just seemed to wonder with no real direction.
Time and time again I try to relisten to this album think I have missed something but everytime fails to provoke positive emotions. So I guess that is my disappointment in progressive rock.
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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 09:42
Lately: Rush - Vapor Trails - so many people hailed this as a "return to form". I just don't hear it.
and primarily: Queensryche's Operation Mindcrime II. It's a crime, alright. 
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Posted By: tdreamer
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 09:50
After such a long wait Vapour Trails was a big let down as was MindecrimeII.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 09:53
Discipline was a huge let down for me too. I still can't get into it.
Also Sigur Ros - (). I had read hundreds of five star reviews for this
band and they sounded right up my alley, but man what a terrible record.
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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 10:09
Empathy wrote:
Lately: Rush - Vapor Trails - so many people hailed this as a "return to form". I just don't hear it.
and primarily: Queensryche's Operation Mindcrime II. It's a crime, alright. 
| Mindcrime II is weird , play it a few more times .. trust me there is quality there (the second half that CD is very good in places) it just takes a few extra plays to show itself 
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 10:25
Yes - Drama (and I thought Tormato was weak!)
Genesis - And then there were three
ELP - Works Vol. I
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Posted By: riversdancing
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 10:28
Rush - Test For Echo Voivod - Voivod, but the forthcoming album is even worse. Katorz is a beautiful tribute to the fallen friend, but please do not destroy the legend! Queensryche - Hear In The Now Frontier Marillion - Radiation Dream Theater - Awake (seriously! In '94 it was a huge disappointment for me.)
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Posted By: Güdron
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 10:58
Oh yeah, The Final Cut, definitely. What a let down it was… I wonder if people still listen to that album…
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 10:58
From the recent disappointments - GARDEN WALL's albums 93-97.Pure $%&$$&*,avoid THIS!!! .Others from my Garbage Box: CAFEINE,BLUE SHIFT,IN NOMINE,MAGELLAN...From previous years I remember my disappointments in MARILLION's "Cluthing at Straws",DT's "Octavarium"(though I like "Train of Thought"), SATELLITE(now I CAN listen to them,but in the very first listening I was bloody disappointed - are they the same band ,which made genius "Moonshine"?).
Also I found some pretty famous bands to be boring and repetitive to my taste - RUSH,GLASS HAMMER,ARENA,PENDRAGON,TANGENT,FLOWER KINGS and SPOCK'S BEARD.They're nice,but not much interesting for me
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 11:05
Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 11:10
Prog-jester wrote:
From the recent disappointments - GARDEN WALL's albums 93-97.Pure $%&$$&*,avoid THIS!!! .Others from my Garbage Box: CAFEINE,BLUE SHIFT,IN NOMINE,MAGELLAN...From previous years I remember my disappointments in MARILLION's "Cluthing at Straws",DT's "Octavarium"(though I like "Train of Thought"), SATELLITE(now I CAN listen to them,but in the very first listening I was bloody disappointed - are they the same band ,which made genius "Moonshine"?).
Also I found some pretty famous bands to be boring and repetitive to my taste - RUSH,GLASS HAMMER,ARENA,PENDRAGON,TANGENT,FLOWER KINGS and SPOCK'S BEARD.They're nice,but not much interesting for me | Sad you feel that way about Magellan .. what CD did you listen to ? because they have some good stuff and not so good stuff 
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Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 11:31
I'm probably going to get killed for this, but Dark Side of the Moon I was disappointed with. I found it to be just useless sound effects and not enough melodies and main insturments. I really never got anything out of it.
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Posted By: Lofcaudio
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 11:33
As far as not living up to my expectations:
1) Foxtrot (Genesis)...this isn't a terrible album, in fact it's quite good. But it probably does not make my top 50 favorite prog albums. I was expecting this to blow everything else away. Alas, it did not.
2) Wish You Were Here (Pink Floyd)...like Foxtrot, this is a good album, but I just don't get much out of Shine On You Crazy Diamond (I actually prefer Welcome to the Machine). This also wouldn't make my top 50 favorite prog albums.
3) Vapor Trails (Rush)...I can't stand this album, but I do enjoy Test for Echo and Counterparts.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 11:36
Masque wrote:
Sad you feel that way about Magellan .. what CD did you listen to ? because they have some good stuff and not so good stuff |
Hate to say that,but I DISLIKE everything Trent does: EXPLORER'S CLUB,LEONARDO PROJECT,etc... I'm pretty sure he's a nice guy,but his music drives me nutzzz!!! I just dislike it!!!
I heard Impossible Figures,Hundred Year Flood, Hour of Restoration and Impending Ascension
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Posted By: Progfans
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 11:45
Dream Theater Octovarium
Pink Floyd The Final Cut
Genesis All after Trick of a Tail
King Crimson Beat
Landberk One man tel another ( Big trouble with the singer)
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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 11:59
Masque wrote:
Empathy wrote:
Lately: Rush - Vapor Trails - so many people hailed this as a "return to form". I just don't hear it.
and primarily: Queensryche's Operation Mindcrime II. It's a crime, alright. 
| Mindcrime II is weird , play it a few more times .. trust me
there is quality there (the second half that CD is very good in
places) it just takes a few extra plays to show itself 
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Oh I'm not saying there's _no_ quality there. I find myself _wanting_
to like several songs, but I just never quite make it there.
I've already heard it thrice, and it's just nowhere near as excellent as the original, IMO.
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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 12:01
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 12:07
Camel - Rajaz. I'd heard great things about this album as a
return to form for the band, but found the album rather tedius.
Not bad, but not as good, I felt, as some had led me to believe.
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Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 13:15
Zargus wrote:
If we are talking about prog: Tormato... after such a great album that was Going for the one the same lin up comes up with this? its probobly not the worst album i have ever heard it got some good stuff but if you comper it with GFTO its pathetic. |
For me and my friends, Going for the One was already a major dissapointment. Until then, Yes had always "progressed", moved into new terrain and taken major chances, but here it seemed like the first time they held back and moved on familiar ground. And after the wildness of Moraz's blistering keyboards, Wakeman was just so charming and SAFE again. OK, there were some beautiful moments, like "Turn of the Century", but nothing as earth-shaking as "Sound Chaser" or "Gates...". Tormato of course was a disaster, and by today's standards, GFTO is not such a bad album, but at the time, it was the first sign that the whole progressive movement was about to become tame, commercial, and irrelevant. There were worst disappointments to follow, leading to the final blow of Love Beach, but by then we'd given up expecting redemption from our previous heroes...that era was over, and everybody hunkered down for the 80s and New Wave.
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Posted By: Gormenghast
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 13:21
the last Pendragon album (Believe, I think) sucked balls, imo. I was gutted with Octavarium as well
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Posted By: Rutgers Joe
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 13:42
TORMATO
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It sucked then, it sucks now and it will always suck...
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 13:42
"Animals" by Pink Floyd and everything that came after it. Everything
is quite dull about that album, not even interesting sound effects. The
best part is the beginning of "Sheep", and "Dogs" has a few moments
too, but all in all - no thanks. Mark that I was a kid still when that
album came out (I must have been 8 or 9), but I remember very well how
very disappointed my parents were too. It is not for nothing that a
young man with an "I hate Pink Floyd" t-shirt started a musical
revolution around then.
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Posted By: fogwalker
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 14:31
"Signals" by Rush.
They were my favourite band at the time. The first album of theirs that came out after I had got into them was "Moving Pictures"and I loved that album (still do, if the truth be told). So, when Signals came out my expectations were high - however, none of the songs on it grabbed me at all the overall sound seemed somehow dull, compared to the brilliance of Moving Pictures, which I now realize was the pinnacle or Rush's career.
I disagree with those who picked KC's "Discipline" though - I think that's a great album!
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 14:44
Maybe I was expecting too much,
But ‘foxtrot’ disappoint me a lot
I bought this album through net, because it was not available here
I was so happy,
But the music is not what I expected
“Supper ‘s ready” is good though
Not the whole album
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 14:55
Dream Theater- Train of Thought (Written in 3 weeks- it shows)
Genesis- Nursery Cryme (after hearing SEBTP and Foxtrot)
Gentle Giant- Octopus- (Some of the worst prog I have ever heard)
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 15:38
Anthony wrote:
The Final Cut. We even got an expression in Dutch: "Finaal kut!", which means 'definitely crap'. |
LOL. I'm not sure I agree with this pick, but I like your humor (for Dutch only I'm afraid).
Right now my own vote goes to Ayreon's Actual Fantasy, which I bought right after I heard The Final Experiment for the first time. Bummer....
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 15:46
Eveytime I start listening to a band by their third album, and then, months after that, I got the first one. Anyway, first albums are not that bad when compared to latest. Take IQ, for example. I started with "The wake" (second), then I got Subterranea; both incredible. Then, I work my way out to "Tales from the lush atic". That was not so band, but not genius stuff also. Then the latest works, wich are divided in two major groups:
1.- The "what the hell happened to this band, they sound like Rod Stewart now" kind.
2.- The "Oh, mercy, they are cloning themselves!!!" kind of album.
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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 15:48
everything by Rush...utterly horrible, mainly due to the catastrophic voice
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 15:53
Rush´s Counterparts...     and thats not even one of their worst!!!
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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 16:03
From albums not in my dad's collection (meaning I spent money). My top 5:
5_ Spock's Beard - Snow ... probably the most overrated prog concept album I have heard in my life. Everything is uninteresting, cliched, and doesn't have more than a few memorable parts. (my favourite parts are the overture, Welcome to NYC, and a few instrumental parts scattered) 2/5 stars
4_Transatlantic: Bridge Across Forever: Not that bad, but it is soooo uninspired and feels like if it was done in a couple of days mostly from jam sessions. The 2 epics suffer the most from this. 2.5/5
3_Harmonium's third (last) album: not bad, but how can they become dull and lifeless after their absolute masterpiece is beyond me. 3/5 stars
2_The MArs Volta - Frances the Mute: A popular prog band that fuses genres, has a 30-minute long epic, and stays popular? that must be really good stuff (like in the case of Tool). I was disappointed, and every time, it gets more unlistenable. I should change my review, because the music is too hard to digest now. The drumming is excellent though. 2/5
And the Winner is:
1_Porcupine Tree 34: One of the worst albums I've heard in prog. An electronica-psychedelia mix that is as repetitive and dull as *insert chore here*. Not only that, but it seems to rip off Pink Floyd's "Run Like Hell" in the beginning. 1/5 DON"T BUY THIS!!!
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 16:13
mmm seems like Rush has let a lot of us down... Still, great band!
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 16:19
I'd have to agree on "Signals," that was a big letdown for me. Genesis' "Invisible Touch" quickly wound up in the trash, but after the last one, it wasn't a dramatic disappointment. Yes "Big Generator" was another bomb.
The biggest one (and I am surprised no one else mentioned it) was "GTR." It sounded like such a great idea. When I heard my two favorite guitar virtuosos playing such hack tripe, it made me want to wretch.
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 16:25
Neal Morse's solo stuff. I enjoy what he did with the beard and Transatlantic, I set my expectations real high, I think he peaked at V 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 16:32
How could I forget Tormato by Yes, what a disaster after the inspired and dynamic Going For The One album !
Funny to read all the varied opinions about Rush  !
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 16:53
well it's hard to say....actually I really can't think of one
that disappointed me .if I HAD to choose one... Floyd's The Wall....
Floyd lost the balance they perfected in the 70's of GREAT music.. and
great lyrics.... call The Wall Roger Water's first solo album for all
the supposed 'group' there was in that.... groups?... oh
yeah... Rush would be first on that...was a huge fan and they
totally lost me after Signals.
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Posted By: YYZed
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 16:53
A lot of Allan Holdsworth's 80's stuff is dissapointing. After having my first exposure to his playing through the raw and incredible All Night Wrong, his records IOU and Metal Fatigue (not as much so) were dissapointing, especially the vocals. I'm not saying that those albums are bad (far from it), I'm just saying that I expected to be blown away and they didn't come close to doing that.
His work with Soft Machine was quite the opposite, however!
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Posted By: MANTICORE
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 17:03
Steve Howe - Begginings

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 17:17
Close To The Edge
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 17:45
RoyalJelly wrote:
For me and my friends, Going for the One was already
a major dissapointment. Until then, Yes had always "progressed", moved
into new terrain and taken major chances, but here it seemed like the
first time they held back and moved on familiar ground. And after the
wildness of Moraz's blistering keyboards, Wakeman was just so charming
and SAFE again. OK, there were some beautiful moments, like "Turn of
the Century", but nothing as earth-shaking as "Sound Chaser" or
"Gates...". Tormato of course was a disaster, and by today's
standards, GFTO is not such a bad album, but at the time, it
was the first sign that the whole progressive movement was about to
become tame, commercial, and irrelevant. | Hear hear, Sir! This is
something I hear far too seldom - especially the part about this
being the first time Yes stepped away from the brink they had been
playing on since their debut. Now, I wasn't there to be disappointed by
it - in 76 I was only ten and still listening to The Runaways - but if
placed on a timeline, this is a major slump.
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 17:48
Snow Dog wrote:
Close To The Edge |
I agree.
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 17:49
RycheMan wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Close To The Edge |
I agree. |
Me 2- a little
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 18:00
Drew wrote:
RycheMan wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Close To The Edge |
I agree. |
Me 2- a little |
You're not supposed to agree with me!!!
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 18:00
Snow Dog wrote:
Drew wrote:
RycheMan wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Close To The Edge |
I agree. |
Me 2- a little |
You're not supposed to agree with me!!!
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OK- then I didnt mean it? 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 18:03
Drew wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Drew wrote:
RycheMan wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Close To The Edge |
I agree. |
Me 2- a little |
You're not supposed to agree with me!!!
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Thats Ok....you can agree, just wasn't expecting it.
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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 18:06
Breakfast in America.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 18:12
The Wall
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 18:16
PF - The Final Cut 
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Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 18:35
The late 70s were certainly disappointing. 77 was a good year Going for the One ,Wind and Wuthering, Works , Songs from the Wood and Animals. These albums weren't necesarily the band's best but they were certainly worthwhile purchases. The follow ups though could only be described as seriously deteriorating
Tormato A pop prog album with some really weak tracks. Unlike Genesis Yes had a full band. Why this?
The Wall Not much prog here either and I don't like Roger Waters self indulgence
And Then there were Three Like Floyd Genesis were a disappearing band and like Yes made a sort of pop/ prog hybrid. When I heard that this had got to number one I thought it was going to be really good. And Phil Collins was at that time playing in two prog bands so he seemed well credentialed
Love Beach This was the last word on trash
so the 70s heroes were no more and it was time to look for new ones
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 18:58
Losendos wrote:
The late 70s were certainly disappointing. 77 was a
good year Going for the One ,Wind and Wuthering, Works , Songs from the
Wood and Animals. These albums weren't necesarily the band's best but
they were certainly worthwhile purchases. The follow ups though could
only be described as seriously deteriorating
Tormato A pop prog album with some really weak tracks
The Wall Not much prog here either and I don't like Roger Waters self indulgence
And Then there were Three Like Floyd Genesis were a disappearing
band and like Yes made a sort of pop/ prog hybrid. When I heard that
this had got to number one I thought it was going to be really good.
And Phil Collins was at that time playing in two prog bands so he
seemed well credentialed
Love Beach This was the last word on trash
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The late 70s had two of my favourite 10 albums:
Nik Turner's Sphynx - Xitintoday (1978)
Mother Gong - Fairy Tales (1979)
Other good albums in the late 70s:
Christian Boulé - Photo Musik (1977)
Steve Hillage - Green (1978)
Steve Hillage - Live Herald (1978)
Clearlight - Visions (1978)
Hawkwind - Quark, Strangeness and Charm (1977)
Here & Now - Give and Take (1978)
Peter Hammill - PH7 (1979)
Magma - Attahk (1978)
Brand X - Livestock (1978)
Daevid Allen - N' Existe Pas (1979)
To name but a few.
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Posted By: Nanook
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 19:11
Anything from Frank Zappa. While I recognize his musical talent, his output leaves me cold. I've heard most of his work over the years, but I've never spent a dime on any of it. Thank God.
The cable movie channels are playing 200 Motels, over and over, as they do sometimes with movies. What utter, complete garbage that is.
Oh, and another vote for The Final Cut. I gave that disc away not long after I bought it. Not traded, just gave it away.
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Posted By: KazimirMajorinc
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 19:25
Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express. Because this one was 100% disco.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 21:00
KazimirMajorinc wrote:
Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express. Because this one was 100% disco. |
Huh? ... I think I would have a hard time doing the hustle to that one.
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Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 21:08
Chicapah wrote:
Yes - Drama (and I thought Tormato was weak!)
Genesis - And then there were three
ELP - Works Vol. I |
Here the same. Those two also shocked me. With those albums, I knew an era had ended.
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Posted By: Camel_APPeal
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 21:41
Drew wrote:
RycheMan wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Close To The Edge |
I agree. |
Me 2- a little |
After listening to the great 'Fragile' and seeing this site's ranking of CttE my expectations were really high, alas not fulfilled  . CttE is still a good album (and Siberian Khatru, now playing btw, it's a great song!) but it just didn't match my expectations and I still prefer Fragile over CttE.
Damn expectations!
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Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 21:50
Back in the early and mid 70s we used to try out bands like Genesis and Yes with few expectations.Whatever they released surprised on the up side.Part of the pleasure is the discovery.
It is different now where people may come to this site and may hear that such and such is the best prog album ever ( CTTE ), the mother of all concept albums (TLLDOB), the best Floyd album (WYWH) and so on. With too much hype the recording is likely to disappoint on the downside.
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Posted By: Camel_APPeal
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 22:05
Losendos wrote:
Back in the early and mid 70s we used to try out bands like Genesis and Yes with few expectations.Whatever they released surprised on the up side.Part of the pleasure is the discovery.
It is different now where people may come to this site and may hear that such and such is the best prog album ever ( CTTE ), the mother of all concept albums (TLLDOB), the best Floyd album (WYWH) and so on. With too much hype the recording is likely to disappoint on the downside. |
Yeah, I know what you mean, and believe me, I tried to avoid such high expectations about CttE, but 'Fragile' really amazed me!!! So I guess that if I lived in the day CttE was released my expectations would've been high after 'Fragile' anyway.
I also didn't mean to say that CttE was a *huge* letdown, but rather a slight disapointment. And I blame my expectations for that, not the band.
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Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 05:14
Rush: Signals. I remember when it came out my friends and I all thought Rush sold out. I've grown to appreciate this album though.
Arena: Peppers Ghost. After Contagion I really expected another winner. Don't think so.
Pink Floyd: The Wall. Again when this came out all I could think of was sell out. I couldn't believe the disco sounding guitar in Another Brick In The Wall and what happened to the epics so prevalent on their prior excellent release Animals. I did get into this album years after its release. I actually sold the original vinyle release I bought the day it came out to my neighbor, that's how dissapointed I was.
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Posted By: Progladyte
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 05:39
Pineapple Thief - Variations On A Dream
How boring can music get already?
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Posted By: fogwalker
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 12:03
BaldFriede wrote:
Peter Hammill - PH7 (1979)
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Hmmm - this is possibly my least favourite Hammill Album - in close contention with The Future Now.
The late 70's weren't kind - even to Peter Hammill!
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Posted By: Epitath
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 14:43
Yes - 90125
Yes had just been reunited after a time apart so everyone was waiting for a new masterpiece and they come up with this 80s Pop=song collection? Seriously are these the same guys that released CTTE, Fragile and Relayer? You really wouldnt think so... 
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Posted By: Rutgers Joe
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 15:16
Epitath wrote:
are these the same guys that released CTTE, Fragile and Relayer? You really wouldnt think so... |
CTTE = Anderson Howe Squire Wakeman Bruford
Fragile = Anderson Howe Squire Wakeman Bruford
Relayer = Anderson Howe Squire Moraz White
90125 = Anderson Rabin Squire Kaye White
...there's your answer. No, it wasn't the same guys.
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Posted By: Explorer-eighth
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 20:39
Throughout the 1980s, I was a fan of Tangerine Dream's early music (Electronic Meditation; Alpha Centauri; Atem; Zeit).
However, when I bought Tangerine Dream's "Phaedra", there was only the short track that I thought was first class music. The rest of it seemed to lack depth and have too much repetition.
In the 1970s I was a fan of Groundhog's "Split". I think I could still like it if I heard it today, but some of their other music like "Who will save the world" didn't live up to my expectations after hearing that classic Split L.P, not that "Who" is a bad album, but it wasn't what I wanted it to be.
I am still a Henry Cow fan, but there was alot, but not all, of the music on the "Concerts" album which was such a disappointment. I think there was a track called "Oslo" which did nothing for me at all.
Samla Mammas Manna's "Snorungarnas Symphony" was weak - more like musak to play when you're busy doing the housework.
Uppsala's "Uppsala" pretended to be like Magma, but it sounded unnatural and forced to me and so I soon sold that one.
I used to be a Can fan, but when I bought Holger Czukay's "On the way to the peak of normal", I hated it and I sold it at the first opportunity.
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Posted By: emersontarkus23
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 21:14
A Momentary Lapse of Reason was the first Pink Floyd album I knew about outside of Dark Side of the Moon. I loved Dark Side of the Moon, but when I listened to AMLoR, it didn't have the same feeling or strength to it that I expected, being a Floyd newbie at the time. Now, knowing it was without Roger Waters' superb direction, I can understand.
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Posted By: darren
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 22:58
I'll admit it. I was much younger and much more naive way back when. I was let down when Supertramp released "... famous last words". I guess I was hoping that "Breakfast In America" was going to be their most pop souding album. In its own way, it is a good album but I was expecting them to move back to their "Crime Of The Century" ways. Exactly why I had these expectations, I don't know. I realize that I deserve to be mocked mercilessly for this.
I am also one of the ones that was disappointed in Floyd's "Momentary Lapse". I tried to love the album as I do the others. I did like it but it just wasn't Floyd.
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 23:16
Anything I've ever tried by Camel. A few of their early LPs are highly recommended here but....blah.
The Wall goes without saying....the sound just isn't Floydian enough. That said, I really liked The Final Cut, but more as a Roger Waters solo album with some, but not nearly enough, tasty Gilmour guitar.
The Return to Forever's Romantic Warrior....that cheezy late 70s production on top of the over-the-top technique for technique's sake execution....it's what fusion was leading up to and is, in essence, where the whole scene came to a crashing halt.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 02:02
After the brilliant "Machine Head" and "Made in Japan" "Who do we think we are" was a disappointment, and signs the band were breaking up. doesn't sound bad now, though!
Again a boring album lacking any kind of spark of inspiration, very unlike Floyd!! only Floyd album i don't own.
And Then There was...boring... bland pop..."Follow Me" - not likely!...do something, Phil..!!!! only Genesis album i don't own.
Supertramp-by-numbers.....extremely predictable and boring.
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Posted By: Myxamatosis
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 08:48
In The Wake of Poseidon. It just seems like a poor attempt at re-creating the first album. It has some good moments, but it is nothing in comparison to its predecessor.
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 11:35
I have never been dissapointed before, I always do a lot of research into an album before I buy it.
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Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 19:15
Yes - Tormato
I was a big fan before that album. After the magnificence of Going For The One, I expected great things. Uuggh! was I disappointed. The start of the fall from grace for this once great band.
Genesis - Abacab
My favourite band of all time! Even after Steve Hackett left, I thought And Then There Were Three and Duke were decent enough. But then came Abacab. The title track showed promise, with a nice solo from Mike Rutherford, but then...oh dear, oh dear, especially the appalling second side. What a disappointment!
There are probably more, but those two really stick in the mind.
Oh yes! Another one was Steve Howe - Beginnings
I loved his work with Yes, then I got this and...oh my god! What appalling vocals! And what a lack of memorable tunes. He is best in a band situation methinks. I have only heard one album by him since, and that was Turbulence. Better than Beginnings, but still average fare to these ears.
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Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 11:31
The latest big disappointment for me was New Model Army's CARNIVAL... it had such good reviews and I didn't find a single track on it that got to me because of new ideas- sounds like NMA RECYCLED, don't need it especially after the great "Eight"-CD.
Then, for sure, there was "Live in Bonn" from BJH "featuring Les Holroyd", see my review.
Supertramp disappointed me heavily with "It was the best of times", I was lucky not to have been at one of those shows, "Free as a bird" disappointed me, too, but I like it now.
I was disappointed with Marillion's "Afraid of Sunlight" when it came out, too, but I like it better now.
Dire Straits disappointed me everytime they came up with a new album after "Communique" but I've learned to love them all except "Alchemy" which is, was and will always be a bore for me.
Van Morrison disappointed me with a lot of stuff since ( last great one, in parts at least: ) Hymns to the Silence, but in Concert, at a good day, he's still divine.
Alan Parson's Project "EVE" was a big disappointment then as well as it is now, after so many years.
Elton John's "Made in England" was a big disappointment after the great "The One".
Steve Winwood disappointed me with every Virgin-release... his Island Albums are classics one and all.
Phil Collins disappointed me with nearly every bit after "Serious hits Live" apart from his Big-Band-project and one single cover-version of a Curtis Mayfield song ( "I've been trying" )
Should I go on or is it enuff ?
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Posted By: Antennas
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 12:02
Every album that is denoted as a 'part 2', "II", etc.
Like with movies, part 1 is always the best... and most often a 'part 2' is only made to feed the cash machine.
Mike Oldfield, anyone? 
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Posted By: progressive
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 12:35
rush - counterparts rush - moving pictures dream theater - falling into infinity genesis - calling all stations
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Posted By: magog
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 13:18
Myxamatosis wrote:
In The Wake of Poseidon. It just seems like a poor attempt at re-creating the first album. It has some good moments, but it is nothing in comparison to its predecessor.
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Agree, but it's anyway a normal album.
I'd say Robert Wyatt Ruth is stranger than Richard King Crimson Lark's tongue in aspic Marillion Marbles
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 15:08
emersontarkus23 wrote:
A Momentary Lapse of Reason was the first Pink Floyd album I knew
about outside of Dark Side of the Moon. I loved Dark Side of the Moon,
but when I listened to AMLoR, it didn't have the same feeling or
strength to it that I expected, being a Floyd newbie at the time. Now,
knowing it was without Roger Waters' superb direction, I can
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hahaha.... have shared my thoughts about that album several times
here..... needless to say... I wasn't impressed and made my displeasure
with it very clear..... 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 15:23
Antennas wrote:
Every album that is denoted as a 'part 2', "II", etc.
Like with movies, part 1 is always the best... and most often a 'part 2' is only made to feed the cash machine.
Mike Oldfield, anyone?  |
Yes but Tubular Bells Part 2 is very good, part 3 also.
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 15:36
Snow Dog wrote:
Close To The Edge |
He He He
Nice joke,
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Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 15:50
Snow Dog wrote:
Antennas wrote:
Every album that is denoted as a 'part 2', "II", etc.
Like with movies, part 1 is always the best... and most often a 'part 2' is only made to feed the cash machine.
Mike Oldfield, anyone?  |
Yes but Tubular Bells Part 2 is very good, part 3 also.
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The album Led Zeppelin I had 3 worthy successors. ELO II is a good successor of ELO, Styx II is better than Styx. SFAM II is also very good but maybe not a good example.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 08:11
Drew wrote:
RycheMan wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Close To The Edge |
I agree. |
Me 2- a little |
Same here
Awfully overrated!!!
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Posted By: transend
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 08:25
Too many to name....unfortunatley..!!
The Mars Volta - Frances the mute...jeez I tried, but it is simply boring to me DT- Train of thought ..or is that 'Train of puppets'? Genesis - Abacab....aaaahh 'Whodunnit' is the worst thing they ever did. Yes - open your eyes (just crap) and 90125 (when it came out I was horrified...a pop album!) Agree about Supertramp, everything since 'Brother where you bound' has been fairly boring. Spocks beard - Snow - agree that it is HIGHLY overrated, it is simply too 'samey' all the way through, so much repitition and the songs are nothing compared to there previous releases, it is because it is the 'big concept 2CD' thing that it got attention, but in reality they (Morse) only wrote enough material for one CD, the fact that he did it again with 'Testimony' was staggering to me. Great! Concept album, huge! but you still need 100+ mins of songs!!!
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Posted By: Sharier
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 08:29
The most horrendous/disappointing albums
1. Genesis: Abacab (it took me a long time to swallow that its really
Genesis that played it. Off course, I forgive Genesis for Me and Sarah
Jane). All other subsequent albums are much better than Abacab!
2. Yes: 90125 (by that time I knew what to expect from the big bands in
the eighties when girls were wearing big plastic earrings and guys
following square-shaped hair-do, and Jon is wearing all white dress!.
Off course, album wise, Big Generator and Union are the worst. But
90125 really disappointed me-- though its not that bad.
3. Pink Floyd: Final Cut-- unthinkably disappoiinting trash with a lot of Waters bulls**t to make it sound 'deeeeep'.
4. Rush: Power Window. I stopped listening to Rush completely for more
than 10 years after Power Windows. Power Mac! I would have trashed Rush
completely (would have been totally unfair)-- but I decided to revisit
Rush and now I maintain a full collection.
5. Flower Kings (overall): I thought I discovered a great band (from
this forum) and took the pain of collecting its major albums to realise
that FK is seriously lacking inspiration in most of the albums.
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 08:30
transend wrote:
compared to there previous releases,
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Posted By: anotherpigfloyd
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 12:12
the lamb lies down on broadway(over rated and not as elaborated as the previuos ones) all their stuff after wind and wuthering.
and close to the edge, after watch the symphonic live dvd i bought this album and it whasnt as powerfull as it appears to be in the dvd
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