Russian prog
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Topic: Russian prog
Posted By: pepo
Subject: Russian prog
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 18:16
| Well, it seems that french prog wasn't as overlooked as I thought but what about russian prog. I haven't heard too much of it but maybe someone had. I have only heard avtograf, azazello and horizont which are quite good but perhaps I missed a lot. |
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 18:20
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The only one I know is Mechanical Poet wich is a prog metal band that only released one album.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 18:25
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LITTLE TRAGEDIES - Return (*****) — WOW, here's an amazing progrock CD that carries me away to progheaven! It's the latest CD from the Russian progrock band Little Tragedies. During the first listening session I noticed a very mid-Emersonian inspired keyboard sound, especially the Yamaha GX-1 super- synthesizer (known from the video-clip "Fanfare for the common man" from ELP) but also a typical ethnic flavor, mainly the wonderful Russian vocals. The first composition "Dream 1" features classical orchestrations (evoking The Enid) and soaring keyboards, followed by the distinctive Eastern-European atmosphere with Russian vocals and some folky sounds. Then splendid keyboardwork, heavy guitar-riffs and in the end a flashy synthesizer solo. The song "After death" is very alternating: excellent guitarplay (sensitive, heavy riffs and fiery runs), spectacular keyboards (organ and synthesizer) and a propulsive rhythm- section. In "Credo" we can enjoy swirling interplay between guitar and keyboards and in "Neuromantic" the contrast between the howling guitar and majestic harpsichord is very captivating, along with the Russian vocals! Among all those cascades of sumptuous progrock there are a few mellow tracks like "Canzona" (sensitive electric guitar and beautiful piano work) and "Return" (subdued with warm Russian vocals). My highlight on this CD is the composition "On the themes of Grieg": lots of sumptuous and fluent prog featuring marvellous keyboard work, inspired vocals and a final part featuring great duels between guitar and keyboards, in the vein of Trace, mid-ELP and the Japanese keyboard driven prog, SUPERB!! IF YOU ARE UP TO RUSSIAN VOCALS AND YOU LIKE ELP AND THE JAPANESE KEYBOARD PROG, THIS CD IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!! |
Posted By: pepo
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 18:31
| I think there was a website with many samples but it was a few years ago. I'm not sure if it's still going but I managed to download many samples of russian, czech and other slavic bands. I think I'll check it out again shortly. |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 19:00
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You can listen online lots of Russian/former Soviet music here: http://www.russiandvd.com/store/audio.asp?char=C&genreid=3355&orderby=0 - http://www.russiandvd.com/store/audio.asp?char=C&genreid=3355&orderby=0 .
I can recommended from their catalogue:
- AVTOGRAF
- DIALOG
- LITTLE TRAGEDIES
- ARSENAL (first and probably the best Russian jazz-rock band)
- PESNYARY - start with "Gusliar", their most progressive record
- GUNESH
- Edward Artemiev (the pioneer of electronic music in USSR)
- QUADRO (jazz rock)
- Viacheslav Gorsky (former ARSENAL and QUADRO keybordist) ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: pepo
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 19:11
| I already have a couple avtograf albums but they were rather commercial. I haven't heard the others but I'm not into jazzrock anyway. I'm more interested in symphonic and folkie prog. I'll check the site all the same. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 19:54
Aquarium! (in my sig)Great russian prog band, I'm working on their addition to PA(just finished the bio)  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 20:27
AVTOGRAF - band's best and most progressive tracks are on "Avtograf-1" album (unfortunately, it's impossible to listen the album on the mentioned site; tracks could be downloaded, but not for free) and "25-th anniversary concert".
Folk-prog - "Gusliar" by PESNYARY is very good example, this band has incredible vocal harmonies. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
pepo wrote:Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 20:29
Does BG know he's a progger?  ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 21:14
He should have an idea, judging by his influences  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Güdron
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 23:13
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The most amazing Russian band is AukcYon. Love these guys. Supposedly they are a rock group, but of most unorthodox type. Whether or not they are prog you can judge for yourself, here’s their latest album: http://www.russiandvd.com/store/album_asx.asp?sku=37168 - http://www.russiandvd.com/store/album_asx.asp?sku=37168Listen at least through their passionately anguished apocalyptic "Bin Laden", the second composition on this album. Although I myself much prefer their earlier stuff: albums Zhopa, Bodun and Ptica. ------------- resistance is futile |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 23:26
Good album titles, especially Zhopa and Bodun!
 ("Ass" and "Hangover" accordingly). ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 22 2006 at 04:42
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Oh boy,Russian Prog!!!
NYL - very good neo-prog,deeply influenced by MARILLION and IQ EXTROVERT - great prog-metal in DT's vein.I sent a PM to some PA members with a request for addition(I have no opportunity to manage it by myself) www.extrovert.ru NOVA ART - prog-metal www.nova-art.ru KAFTAN SMEHA(A jacket of laughing) - awesome band,combining elements of prog rock with avant theatre art!!!This is not "Gabriel-inspiured show" or something; the stage perfomance includes nearly 20 persons!!! www.kaftansmeha.ru UNCROSSED - insane death-metallists with jazzy elements!!!Grave diggers for John Zorn's extreme project!!!
www.uncrossed.ru KOSTAREV GROUP - great fusion/sympho instrumental prog,partly improvised;band's leader,Alexander Kostarev,is well-known person of Russian prog scene cosmusic.narod.ru METROPOLIS - oh yeah,they do know about DT...
DISEN GAGE - great instrumental band,close to Fripp-rock,but pretty original though disengage.ru PIKNIK - incomparable!!!Awesome art-rock/prog-related band with unique vocalist/composer/guitarist EDUARD SHKLYARSKY,with strong gothic atmosphere and their own mystic sound.Highly recommended!!! www.piknik.info AEOLIAN HARP - Genesis-inspired project from Moscow www.realmusic.ru/harp Sergey Kuryohin(1954-1996) - Russian avant-composer,pianist,soundtracks composer,ex-AQUARIUM member www.kuryokhin.ru MEPHISTO BRIDGE - my one-man band project  .Nice neo-prog,but I'm moving further,and MB is not what I'm keen on now
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: June 22 2006 at 04:51
..... ... thanks  !
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 22 2006 at 04:54
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Anyone know more about these? Белый Острог (White Ostrog) Оркестр Алеаторики I believe these are prog bands anyhow. -------------   
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: June 22 2006 at 05:06
I suggest Piknik too.
-- Ivan ------------- sig |
Posted By: pepo
Date Posted: June 22 2006 at 13:02
| I think I've heard them. White Ostrog is acoustic folk duo not sure if properly prog. of Orkestr Aleatoriki I don't remember well but perhaps you could find some legal 30 sec samples. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 23 2006 at 08:01
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ZVUKI MU(The Mu(sic) Sounds) - avantgarde rock/new wave/prog-related from the very 80s.Their leader Petr Mamonov now is a well-known avant theatre actor.
JUNGLES - legendary and almost unknown band from 80s Sadly,almost no information about them both in Web 
BLIND VANDAL - instrumental trio from Arkhangelsk playing Joe Satriani-like prog-rock www.blindvandal.ru DETI PICASSO(Picasso's children) - multi-national band based in Moscow playing very original music with elements of experimental/post-rock and folk music of Armenia www.detipicasso.ru No.r.Dream - very nice mostly instrumental prog-metal nordream.musica.mustdie.ru ESTHETIC EDUCATION - prog-related(just listen to their "Beautiful") Ukrainian band with singer Lui Frank(former films director,sings in English) produces modern rock in RADIOHEAD/COLDPLAY vein with elements of DOORS psychedelia.Their keyboardist Dima Shurov pushes Bach-like passages even in poppish songs of them!!!Great soundwork and prog-bounded material www.estheticeducation.com FLEUR - Ukrainian post-rock/trip-hop/gothic/neo-classical band with female vocals.Melancholic atmosphere,superb musicianship and great lyrics - highly recommended!!!Their albums released by French label Prikosnovenie fleur.kiev.ua DOROGA DJONGO(Djongo's road) - no information at all,I even haven't heard their stuff yet http://www.rock-club.org/~music/bands/index.php?fb=GENRE;русский%20арт-рок InProg - annual prog-fest in Moscow.SAMMLA MAMMAS MANNA visited it last year,Dan Swano's NIGHTINGALE visited it this year.Dozens of bands raging from neo to RIO participate in it every year |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: June 23 2006 at 10:38
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honestly, where the hell do you buy this sh*t
KAFTAN SMEHA sounds real interesting, as do the others
you lucky russians
Aaron
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: June 23 2006 at 13:10
Most minimalistic prog ever.
I'll never risk to recommend this band to those who don't speak Russian.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 29 2006 at 07:10
Don't forget - we still have the Red F***ing Button!!! 
I wish they all would be on Archives some day... along with my stuff surely
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Posted By: Paul K.
Date Posted: June 29 2006 at 08:34
I wounder either ------------- Weasels ripped my flesh |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 29 2006 at 12:43
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Actually,from those I've mentioned ,only THESE ones worth submitting here:
AQUARIUM (Art Rock/Prog Related) PIKNIK (Art Rock) KAFTAN SMEHA (Art Rock) EXTROVERT (Prog Metal) NO.R.DREAM (Prog Metal) UNCROSSED (Extreme Prog Metal) DISEN GAGE (Art Rock) FLEUR (Prog Related/Modern Prog) - Ukrainian prog! Sergey Kuryohin (Various Genres) |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: June 29 2006 at 12:44
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Aquarium are already in the archives, courtesy of The Miracle.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 29 2006 at 12:45
All you need is some time and wish...and you'll find all you want .
BTW,there's something wrong with my NYL's CD... .I must found a new one...it'll be a HARD task...
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 29 2006 at 12:48
Oh boy!!! TO THE MIRACLE!!!
Vanya,we must submit PIKNIK!!! |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: June 29 2006 at 12:50
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No problem, give me some time. We could collaborate too.
-- Ivan ------------- sig |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: June 29 2006 at 14:23
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I just received two Piknik albums - ДЫМ and Королевство Кривых. I'll listen to them during this weekend. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 03:56
SMOKE and The Kingdom Of Curved - the first one and the last one!!! Smoke has awesome opening track - atmospheric gothic NIGHT(ÍÎ×Ü).The last one is a bit poppish and ordinary,but some tracks showing Shklyarsky's masterity as a composer and soundmaker.I wonder how would you like his voice!!! |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 13:07
| Nobody mentioned Horizont ??? BTW Gunesh is striftly from Turkmanistan are they not??? |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 11:54
HORIZONT is here on Archives for long time.I'm talking mainly about lesser-known bands.Gunesh is from USSR
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 11:56
| Avestin,have you already listened to PIKNIK's stuff? |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 15:54
You catch me after 5 weeks of prolonged university coursework and examination marking, so forgive me if I'm still in pendant precision mode. The thread says Russia not USSR. Yes I know Horizont have been listed here for some time and it is clear not everybody else was talking lesser known bands. The liner notes for the Gunesh's album 45 degrees in a shadows , states: 'jazz rock Turkmanistan group' |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 05:10
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Oops,sorry,I'm stillconsider us to be one country
Are there any other Turkmenistan prog-bands? BTW,does anyone know a prog-band from Ukraine(except those ones mentioned by me)? |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 07:50
I guess Shafi and Gunesh were unique in that - although you are hit by a number of tunes, that you first may label Indo Jazz Fusion but realised with time they are some distance from the likes of Shakti. I'm sure there is Mongolian throat music as well. One tune by Gunesh is inspired by Vietnamese music - and we had to wait at least 15 years before French-Vietnamese guitarist Nguyen Le crossed jazz rock fusion with Vietnamese folk music
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 03:42
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Just listened to AZAZELLO's "The Wings" - early FATES WARNING meets keyboardist!!! Nice stuff,but a bit OVER arranged...they should concentrate on writing SONGS rather on making insane DT-like jams...IMHO,though
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 07:21
As far as I can remember, their vocalist really put me off. Instrumental parts are very good, though. So I kinda disagree with above suggestion. These guys could do without songs.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 08:39
| Another dissappointment - Little Tragedies "Return".Hope they're better on "New Faust",because "Return" is not my kind of music at all!!! |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 08:51
Abandon all your hopes. Faust is in the same style. I mean - music in all instrumental parts is great, but when he starts singing - it sounds like from completely different band/style/genre. I wonder if it's only me or someone else also thinks that music and lyrics/vocal lines do not go together. The band is using lyrics by great Russian poet of so called "Silver Age" era (beginning of 20th century), and lyrics as poetry are great on their own, but IMO it does not suit music at all. This is one of the rare cases when you put two "great" together and get "nothing great" as the result.
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 14:08
Extrovert are already under discussion by the PMT.
I'll also make it my duty to inform Mike about the latter two bands for addition.
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 23:52
I can't agree. I think music and lyrics go together quite well.
In my opinion LITTLE TRAGEDIES is the best prog band appeared in Russia in the last 20 years.
Singing style is close to traditions of Russian bards. Gennady Ilyin is not a great vocalist, but he has his own, instantly recognizable, voice. For me it is much better than countless technically good, but faceless singers.
And in case of LITTLE TRAGEDIES lyrics are important, while listening to their albums you have a lot to think about.
Those who are interested can listen online (stream) their 2000 album "Porcelain Pavilion" here: http://www.russiandvd.com/store/product.asp?sku=36254 - http://www.russiandvd.com/store/product.asp?sku=36254 . It represents the band's style well. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 05:46
Actually all you said above is true. I only disagree with the first line. IMO instrumental parts and vocal melodies are not matching at all. Singing style of Russian bards (which I love when sang by Russian bards) does not go together with powerful Symphonic Prog the band is playing. And on the other hand, poetry by Nikolay Gumilev does not require musical surrounding of this kind to remain important, thoughtful, beautiful and great.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 06:49
Gumilev is excellent poet,but he DOESN'T F***ING FIT HERE!! 
As a result,it sounds ridiculous to a Russian ear(IMO) Gonna listen to EXTROVERT more precisely right now |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 13:14
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Just bought The Soviet Rock Encyclopedia(badly written and designed),and found there...
DO MAJOR - nice symphonic Prog with Frippique guitars(their guitarist is Fripp's League's graduator) VISOKOSNOE LETO - legendary proto-AVTOGRAF band,mostly unknown ASFALT - avantgarde jazz band with RIO influences QUADRO - their keyboardist Gorsky have released recently a solo-album "The Legend about the Knight",musically close to Wakeman's solo efforts GERDA NEBESNOE ELEKTRICHESTVO KULTURNIY BUNKER MODEL MAGNIT RENTGENKABINET ^ - no recordings left .They all are said to be "art-rock"
CHOLBON and SERGE - Yakutian bands with Floydian attitude(plus native art influences) NIKOLAY PARFENUK - there is said that he has released a vynil, musically close to classica; GENESIS era...I'd like to have it!!! BTW,there are NO neither HORIZONT nor RAINY SEASON...funny book... |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 14:32
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^ I wanted to buy that book once, but I ended up buying something on renaissance art instead. ------------- sig |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 07:08
I guess the book you bought is much more progressive than the one I've got 
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 08:39
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Probably, I actually remembered about its existence after your post, and I had bought it 3 months ago. Describes me well as a reader. ------------- sig |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: September 03 2006 at 09:28
MELNITSA (www.melnitsa.net) - the leading Russian Folk-Rock band,having a cello,flute,acoustic guitars and even harp in its line-up(as well as native Russian musical instruments)!!! Can be compared to JETHRO TULL(but without any bluesy influences) and RENAISSANCE(mainly because of touching female vocals),but very original and HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!! 
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: September 03 2006 at 09:35
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QUORUM - nice New Symphonic band.
ETERNAL WANDERERS - QUORUM's side-project,spacy neo-prog. TREPANGA - shock-art-rock,reminding visually of Alice Cooper All bands are in process of recording their debut albums |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: October 16 2006 at 09:53
Got their stuff recently.Not exactly prog,but very interesting - a multi-genred instrumental violin/guitar duo
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