prog band with the best orchestral arrangements
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Topic: prog band with the best orchestral arrangements
Posted By: pepo
Subject: prog band with the best orchestral arrangements
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 20:34
| Well, I think this is the last poll I'll do, is about orchestral arrangements used in songs by prog bands, that's to say brass, strings, reeds and/or choir arrangements. For some bands I have specified the albums in which they used the arrangements to help memory, the others use arrangements in many or all of their albums. Please specify if I missed something. |
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 20:36
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I'm going Yes.. but not for your examples.... Symphonic Live.... never
would have figured a symphony could be utiized so well in some of those
songs.. but the Yesmen pulled it off... again...
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 22:47
| Judging from what I've heard, it has to be Yes. Especially Time and a Word. |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 00:04
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How about Pain of Salvation on Be? -------------   "Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls." |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 00:07
Wait...so they re-released it with music ?
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AtLossForWords wrote:Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 00:32
 and you are gone nine days so I can't reply!------------- "Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls." |
Posted By: Clark Ashton
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 00:33
| http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=5729 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=5729 |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 01:34
| I'd say Ian Anderson (or Ian Anderson / Jethro Tull). |
Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 02:40
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Camel's orchestration on Snow Goose is virtually perfect, but one swallow doth not a summer make. Renaissance use orchestration widely and brilliantly, so they get my vote. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 03:38
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For me it's Renaissance - can be no other.
You mention choir - I wonder how many people have been fooled over the years by the mellotron.
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 04:30
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1st: RENAISSANCE
2nd (ex-acqueo): CAMEL (The Snow goose) and URIAH HEEP (Salisbury) ------------- 
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 04:32
Procol Harum and Edmonton Orchestra for 3rd -------------
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 04:46
The orchestral sounding keyboards on the The Enid albums, especially Touch Me, The Six Pieces and In The Region Of The Summer Stars  !
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 06:28
| Barclay James Harvest have great orchestral arrangements. As for example in Medicin Man album version and in Moonwater. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 07:54
| I voted other as I agree with Andrea - listen to BJH, particularly "Galadriel" on "Once Again" for a perfect example of how to integrate an orchestra on a prog album. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 08:30
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I just checked my collection, here some other fine examples of using classical (mainly brass) orchestrations:
- Dark Now My Sky by Barclay James Harvest
- Journey To The Centre Of The Earth by Rick Wakeman
- Salisbury by Uriah Heep
- Kashmir by Led Zeppelin (overdubbed violins)
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 09:42
Not only that but it was their own orchestra! Not forgetting Mocking Bird ..... I still had to vote for Renaissance though - their orchestrations were so seemless that the orchestra and band seemed like a single entity - check out the Scheherezade suite |
Posted By: paulindigo
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 10:02
[/QUOTE] ..... I still had to vote for Renaissance though - their orchestrations were so seemless that the orchestra and band seemed like a single entity - check out the Scheherezade suite[/QUOTE] 
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Posted By: BigBrownBear
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 10:22
| Oh my god...The Enid are not here!! |
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 10:40
Yep, the Scheherazade suite is memorable!
All the EMI's (four) albums of BJH are great examples of very good orchestral arrangements.
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 12:45
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Most of Frank Zappa's stuff. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! http://www.last.fm/music/Exerior" rel="nofollow - EXERIOR Experimental tech/death/progmetal from Norway! |
Posted By: Open-Mind
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 13:01
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I'll pick ELO
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 16:54
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The orchestral arrangements on Wakeman's "Myths and Legends" are the best orchestral arrangements ever written for rock. Period.
Peace.
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Posted By: fungusucantkill
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 17:39
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ZAPPA -------------  
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Posted By: Baggiesfaninuk
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 01:24
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The Enid.
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 03:43
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I'm going with Wakeman. Journey. ------------- 
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Posted By: progrock
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 06:54
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1-Renaissance 2- The Who ------------- Genesis - Selling England By The Pound Eloy - Ocean Renaissance - Scheherzade and Other Stories Yes - Relayer E.L.P. - Tarkus Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 07:05
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Let us not forget Dave Palmer's fantabulastic arrangements on Minstrel in the Gallery, Heavy Horses and other string-laden Tull classics.
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 07:09
Along with the albums you mentioned, the most strong strings in JT's discography is on War Child, an album by many underrated.
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Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 08:32
Agreed, it is a very strong work.
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Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 13:25
Exactly my thought. Amazing album. It took me a while to like it and after the first listen I thought it was pretty weird, but now I love it. The Orchestration is incredible, especially in the heavy songs where the strings add such great rhythm and mass to the overall sound. ------------- 
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 16:10
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It's seems to be no one knows After Crying... amazing hungarian band with awsome orchestral arrangements in almost every album... you have to listen OVERGROUND MUSIC, DE PROFUNDIIS, FOLD ES EG and 6... beautiful pieces... I also love Renaissance but I think After Crying deserves a highest place into this poll... Peace & Love--- ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 16:39
Exactly!!!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 16:58
hmmmm... thanks for the tip..... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 01:33
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The Enid or Sky, but I think the Enid wins overall ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 01:55
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What no mention of Alan Parson's Project?
Any orchestral arrangement done by that genius called Andrew Powell is a masterpiece, despite the quality of the central musical piece.
If youdon't believe me, listen "In the Lap of the Gods" from Pyramids, excellent production mixed with excellent Orchestra has to be great.
Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 02:07
| Kayak - Merlin,Bard Of The Unseen AND Nostradamus,The Fate Of Man |
Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 09:08
| ELP |
Posted By: reality
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 16:34
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Renaissance... That is what they were all about and at time when orchestra was not a regular element in prog.
When I think of Classical/Orchestral rock I think of Renaissance above anyone else.
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Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 16:48
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I vote Yes largely because of "Symphonic Live" which I have been watching constantly, since I got it last week. The best live DVD/CD I have ever experienced. -------------  You've just had a heavy session of electroshock therapy, and you're more relaxed than you've been in weeks. |
Posted By: Gravity Eyelids
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 17:51
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As much as I love YES's arrangement, I have to go with Renaissance. ------------- Into this wild Abyss the fiend Stood on the brink of Hell and looked a while, Pondering his Voyage. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 17:59
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Why is there no Dream Theater on the list?
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 18:41
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Have anyone heard of this little italian bands . . . Quella Vechia Loccanda - Il tempo della gioia Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - ...Di terra Am I alone on this?  ------------- 
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 19:19
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I like Days of Future Past from The moodies, also Magnification from Yes is great
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 19:56
Let me see without checking the list:
Iván -------------
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 20:03
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If were talking about arranging an orchestra with the band then my vote goes to Pain Of Salvation for Be, it actually sounded like one big band rather than band+ orchestra.
If its for how a band orchestrates its music then I'm going to say Genesis. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005  |
Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 21:44
You're not alone.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 22:44
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 22:57
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I really like Pain of salvation- BE!
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